Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - Second Date Update Classics: Big Fragrance Energy + Trying To Connect 4

Episode Date: June 13, 2026

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And it's so cool to see our city on TV. I don't know why I think that's so cool every time. Like, there we are. We're famous. So, happy World Cup. Yes, I hope you're out there, you know, taking in some games. Some matches, sorry. I mean, yeah, Brooke, come on.

And speaking of international men, okay? Daniela commented it said, me and my friends are holding a drunk Olympics on July 18th. I feel like Alexis would be a great addition. All caps, there will be international men. Let me know if you'd like to join. I just appreciate how well you know me and bake you, Daniel. Yeah, she does.

She has your number, that's for sure. But, dude, there's no way that she is going to get on metal. Oh, no, I'm not even making the podium for that. No, no, not at all. But I'll be a good sport. Don't worry. Totally. All right, you're back-to-back, classic start right now.

If someone gives you a present, no matter what it is, you're expected to show your appreciation. Of course. However you see fit, you could say, oh, thank you. That's nice. You could talk about how much you've always wanted something like this. Oh, that's always the best. Or you can do what I do.

What the heck? Jeff, that is not how you say thank you. You swap pants with them as a token of gratitude. You may not fit, though. Yeah, but one of our listeners is worried that she messed up after her date brought a gift, and afterwards she sent him one text that does. Definitely could have been misread as being rude and ungrateful. Oh, no.

Ouch. Time to unzip the pants. See, should have stuck with the old trouser trade-off. Why are your zippers so loud? Yeah, they are. You're going to hear what happened coming up in your second date update. Next. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.

Second date update. Is it okay to bring a gift on a first date? Oh, yeah, of course it is. It's kind of nice. It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. It might take, as long as it's, yes, small. thoughtful. And diamonds?

Low pressure. Like a little quirky key chain with their name on it. Then why not? What about like a small dog? Well, that's a lot of pressure. Okay, all right. Somewhere in the middle. You want to avoid something that's too expensive,

nothing too over-the-top romantic because the goal is to just be sweet. Not serious. If you can link it to some inside joke you already have, it's even better. Yeah, absolutely. And our listener, Alison, mentioned a gift was involved in her first date recently. I don't know the parameters of it or what

exactly happened. So let's talk to her about it. Allison, hey, thanks for joining us. Hi, thanks for having me. What did you get us as a gift? Oh. Well, I'm just saying. I thought that she was into gift giving. Well, before we get to the gift, let's start with who's the guy we're calling and how did you meet him? Well, his name is Corey and I met him on a dating app. Hmm, okay. Okay. I'm so curious if you were the gift giver or receiver in this situation.

I was actually the receiver. Oh. Oh, okay. Weird that he would give a gift and be that excited about a date and then not be calling you back for another one. Yeah, that's the thing. So it was kind of my idea. I told him that he should bring a little gift to make a first impression.

Oh. Oh, you asked for it. Okay. That really changes. That would make more sense than not calling, like, why you're on the phone. It's good to have a woman who knows what she wants. How did he receive that? Did he laugh at first?

I would think that someone was joking. Yeah, it was a little bit of a joke. But also, on the other hand, it's also like, well, why shouldn't guys come with a little offering? You know, nothing big, nothing too crazy. Yeah, I think you're right. But naturally, like, the guy should already show up with something tiny, not. I don't want to jump from guys. What did you?

want him to bring you? That's the thing. It's up to him. I think it'd be cute to kind of figure out, like, what is he going to bring to impress me? But I also told him nothing too serious. Okay. So this is more fun. You're not going in with big expectations. You're just trying to see how his brain works and what type of item he's going to get for you. And get something out of that. Yes. Okay. So what did he end up bringing for you? A cinnamon roll scented candle. Oh, gosh. Oh, yes. I mean, no. I mean, Nothing says romance like Cinebond at the mall. It smells a little like grandma, but it's safe, right? Yeah. He doesn't love the smell of cinnamon. What was your reaction to that? I thought it's funny.

I mean, throughout the entire date, I started calling him B-F-E. Big fragrance, energy. Oh, he's got B-A-B-A. Okay. I can't B-F-E. There you go. Okay. Created an inside joke.

Honestly, it's pretty smart of the guy, too, because now anytime you smell cinnamon rolls, you're going to think of him. I did ask him, like, why he chose the cinnamon rolls scent. Yeah, yeah. And he was like, oh, I imagined you smelling like this, which I thought was kind of cute. Interesting.

Could be worse. Do you work at a mall? Is that maybe why you thought you'd smell like that? No, I don't. I don't know why he imagined it. I think he probably couldn't come up with another reason and he was just blurting out whatever came to his head. closest one of the checkout aisle, basically, in this channel, yeah.

Okay. Take us through the rest of the date. I mean, we weren't only talking about candles, but he let me text him a candle recommendation list. Oh. Because I got into candles a couple years ago. Wait, could he have been insulted by that? Like, maybe. Like, the implication is here's a bunch of other candles you should buy for me that aren't the flavor that you chose because you're wrong.

I mean, I think I would have been insulted if I gifted a candle and then I got sent back better options. You give someone a ring and they're like, here's better rings. Yeah. I didn't think it offended him when it was like happening when I said it to him because we were laughing and stuff. Okay. But then at the end of the date, I was open for a kiss because it was going so well. Yeah. But he just gave me a hug.

Oh. And then I was like, okay, well, maybe he's still being a gentleman or something because I thought he was going to ask me in the next 48 hours to go out on the next date. But he didn't. Like maybe he actually was offended, like you guys were saying. Did you tell him that he had to bring a present on the next date at any point? No, no, no, no, no. It was kind of like a one-time thing. Yeah.

But with the list that you send, in his mind, it might be implied that he's expected to show up. Oh, my gosh. What if he's saving up for a candle? That's all. He's like, I just need $12. Candles are a lot more than $12. Really? Yeah.

He's trying to knock out multiple candles on your list. It could be a big problem. Oh, uh-oh. See, you overwhelmed him with wax. Yeah. You expected a date within 48 hours. That hasn't happened. How long has it been?

Maybe a week. Okay. Okay. And you ever heard anything? Nothing. And, you know, I'm not disappointed because I really do like him. And he's really freaking cute. And I really thought we had something.

And it's easy for you to reach out too and be like, oh, my God, look at my cute candle. Here's a picture of it in my house. You probably got once. You can't keep it. I don't know. I had to blow it out for 10 minutes, but I'm back. It's going to put in. Here's another picture. Don't blow a candle out that soon.

My husband would have you done that. Have you texted him a picture using the candle? I did. I did. I mean, the first time, it makes sense. But then that was, like, awkwardly the last thing that was texted. Dude, it would be kind of funny if you took your candle with you everywhere you wait and set him updates. Like, here's the candle on the bus. Here's the candle at where... No, don't do that.

This candle is my new best friend. You'll get the candle and I are at the gym together. No. No. It's not. That's so funny. Let's not laugh. This was a very... very, very cute gift. And now we're minimalizing it. I feel like there is a really sincere reason

that he's not calling you back. Oh, you're getting serious. Okay. Sorry, Jeff. I didn't know this. I don't appreciate making jokes of true romance. So let's try and do this the right way when we come back. We'll call Corey and get you your second date update right after this. Okay. Thank you. Hold on. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Second date update. Imagine sticky sweet sugar melting into ribbons of of cinnamon spice. Oh my gosh. With the aroma of buttery dough rising into the air like temptation itself.

Oh, wow, I think I'm pregnant. Did you just make that sexy somehow? Yeah, that sounds amazing. It doesn't just smell good. It seduces the room. What I just described was a gift. Our listener Allison received on her first date, a cinnamon roll scented candle from Corey.

Most people think of grandmas, but not Jeff. Or the mall. Yeah, sure. You know where my mind goes. But afterwards, Corey has disappeared, just like a box of Cineabon left in our break room. I mean, honestly. The one thing, Allison, thinks she may have done wrong,

is send him a list of other candle scents that she likes, which even Brooke agreed is a little bit presumptuous, right, Brooke? I could see it being read wrong. Yeah. I don't think that that was her intention, but, you know. I have a husband who loves candles, and he has a love. list of his favorite sense. How to care for the candle, how to cut the wick.

There is a lot of rules. I didn't know that. I just light it. My rule about candles is whatever you do, don't eat it. And it's a tough one. I have to remind myself every time. I know. Allison, you didn't do that, right?

You didn't bite into your cinnamon roll candle? No, no, no, no. Okay, good. I do feel like we need to ask our listeners that. I mean, that's true. You never know what happens on these second date updates. People end up doing weird. stuff we never thought of all the time.

So let's call Corey and find out if he's a candle fiend just like Brooks' husband. Here we go. I'm going to dial this number right now. Hey, we're looking to speak with Corey. Speaking. Who is this? Hey, this is a radio show. Yeah. What's up? Corey?

Brooke, yes. Super cool radio show, obviously, based on what you've just heard. Never. Super chill. But we're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. I'm just so confused. I'm just so many people. Yeah, a lot of people.

Can I help you? What's going on? Well, this is a segment that we do. It's called Second Date Update. We're trying to help out one of our listeners who's asked us to reach out to you. A woman you went out with recently named Allison. Okay. Yes, okay.

First impressions about Allison? She's an interesting girl. She's definitely a quirky person. Interesting and quirky are good things, right? Not always. Okay. We know that something must be up because you have not reached out to Allison trying to arrange a second date,

and she just is a little confused about why it hasn't happened. Yeah, I think She's just a little odd Allison's odd Yeah, she's a little odd She had asked for me to bring her a gift To our first date Yeah, I mean, she told us about that

And actually she said she really appreciated The gift that you got her Yeah Oh, she did Yeah The cinnamon roll candle Correct, yes Okay, is that the reason

Well, no, so she, I don't know if she told you, but she actually, in fact, got me two gifts. Wait, she brought you something? She didn't mention that at all. Wow. To be honest, she kind of surprised me because I thought I was really the only one who was going to be bringing the gift. But I love that. She set him up, like, can we give me a gift to test him? And then she had a gift, too.

Yeah, that's really cute. So it wasn't as, like, testy. Guys don't get gifts very often. Yeah, unless you're a romantic. It seems like that would make you feel special. Right. Why are you framing it as a bad thing? Well, it wasn't so much like the idea of the gift.

It was the gift that she brought that made me feel a bit uneasy. Uneasy. Oh, I am so curious as to what she brought you. Like, not the right stuffed animal. Hopefully it's not her baby teeth that she's been saving for the right guy. Or her stuffed animal with her baby teeth in it. If it was a necklace, that'd be cute. What was the gifts?

So the first one, it was a rock that she found on the sidewalk that. morning. A rock? That could be kind of funny. Like, is it shaped like a heart or something, you know? No, just a rock. Oh. And I just thought weird digging it because she said it was her lucky rock and she had given it to me.

Like, it has no meaning to me. Yeah, but at that point. She just found it. It can't be that lucky. You know, it's not like it's. It was lucky for that day. Yeah. Yeah, you go buy a lottery ticket.

Okay. So a rock that she found this morning. What was gift number two? The second gift. she handed me was like a homemade coupon book. I don't know. Have you seen one of those? Yeah.

Yeah. Like, this is good for one back rub. This is good for... I'll do the dishes. They're usually sexy things. Yeah. Well, they're usually things in relationships. Is that what it was?

One coupon was for one good existential conversation. Another one was about, like, a midnight call where we talk about aliens. aliens specifically. You can't talk about those at lunchtime. It's only a midnight conversation type of thing. The other one was one deep discussion about the meaning of socks in society. I love socks. It had to be a joke.

I mean, that sounds funny. They all sound funny. Also kind of romantic. Do you know was it a joke? I mean, she's a bit woo-wooed, so it seems like probably on brand for her. I just kind of like kill the mood Oh Oh

Oh okay In a socks doesn't turn him on Jeff Yeah Well I know how to bring the mood right back up And that's by letting you know that Allison Is on the other line right now listening Waiting to talk to you about alien conspiracy theories So go ahead Allison

What? It's not midnight Hey Corey Allison What are you doing? I really thought The date went great honestly, and I'm a little shocked right now that you're finding that little coupon book I made you

weird. I think it's fun, especially like the stocks in society. Like, stocks are underrated. Like they say a lot about culture, personality, like way more than people realize. Okay. It just was a bit odd for the first time eating. Alison, it's a little strange that you didn't bring it up with us. I didn't, you guys ever really asked about the existential coupon book? Well, I mean, I agree with all of the things that you're saying, but putting it into a coupon book on a first date. I think that's the part that's a little odd. But that's why we thought it was a joke, though.

Like, were you kidding? Were you being lighthearted? About the aliens, yes. Like, we can have that call anytime. Oh, okay. Everything else. So she's just joking about the time frame when she can have the alien discussion and not just midnight any time of day. But you are down to chop it up about aliens.

It is funnier when you say aliens at midnight for some reason. Yeah. I agree with her delivery. I wonder what their time zone is. Okay. Corey, does that clear it all up for you? I mean, it's pretty much what I thought. I mean, I don't know.

You date somebody like her, and maybe your mind opens up to some new ideas and some new experiences. Yes, I can open your mind and all that good stuff. Why don't I'm like, just going a day with me? Why don't it feel like she's rubbing to Himalayan Salt Rock? Yeah. My mind is pretty open, but I don't know, just a bit. It's a bit much. I mean, come on.

What about big fragrance energy guy? That's right. B-F-E. Come on, man. Yeah. I mean, if I'm not feeling it, I'm not feeling it. I'm not sure. That's true.

I mean, Allison, if this is how Corey feels, maybe he's not the right guy for you. You need somebody that matches your same vibe, your same energy that you're looking for. She needs to find a right sock to her. left sock, Jeff. That's what it is. So romantic. Oh, but I like him. And I mean, I didn't even tell you if there's another coupon in there that's one

free awkward hug. Oh, an awkward one. That's so funny. You guys can hug and be like, no, no, no, that was way too good. We got to make it weird. I feel bad about that the whole day. I think it's so good. That is awesome.

You don't want to pass up that opportunity because we would pay for you two to go out on another date. If you'll agree to it, just give it one chance. Maybe even an awkward kiss? Oh, it's so. funny. I actually think your host should go on a date with her because she seems really excited about a lot of the things she's saying. Thank you and her triple-a-d-a-d-gad. Triple awkward hug, you mean. I'm into it, O'Say. Anybody else wanted in our hug circle? I was Corey.

Even though this didn't end up working out, there's not going to be a second date. I do think something positive came out of this. We were able to figure out that you're two different people after two different things, and that's okay. Yeah. Can I just say, like, Corey? you can't use that coupon book with anyone else. It only works with me. Oh. She's going to get jealous. I think that's a deal. Oh.

Okay. I feel like he's already thrown out the book. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Radio experience. You and a pal in Montreal and Oceaga, with four nights at residents in downtown Montreal. Flights from Porter Airlines, two weekend gold tickets,

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In the moment, it felt like it was going on forever. I didn't think I was going to live. I was terrified. There was no anything inside those eyes. They turned black. It scared the hell out of me. That was your first murder case? Yes, sir.

Fear to say this was the biggest case of your career? Yes, sir. Rape the murder for a child. Just as bad as it gets. I would think so. Evil, wake up. I'm the one that saw the murder take place by Krivac and DePippo. Anthony DePippo showed no signs of remorse,

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for being creative with her coupon book. Oh, you're on her side now. Most of the time, coupons are like one free back rub. One day of me doing chores naked in the house. I mean, those are so old and played out. It's nice to hear someone actually put some creativity. and like shake it up a little bit. Dude, I want to do the sock one.

Like, when do we do the sock segment? Yeah. Like, let her on and just let her go. That would be fun. But, of course, you know, us men, we don't like new ideas or creative shakeups to our normal routine. We're simple creatures who like the same old crap over and over and over forever till we're dead. Thank you.

And somehow someone's going to say, Brooke, why are you saying such mean things about men? Yeah. It's Jeff. That's me. I hate us. And you can hate listen to us online wherever you get your podcast through up at Brooke and Jeffrey. Or if you ever need help with your dating life, email the show. We'll call that person who's not calling you back.

Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Imagine someone you really like and you just started dating suddenly stops replying to your texts. Oh. Well, at that point, well, at that point, what's this? invitation for Jose? I'm wondering what's the strategy that you use to get them to respond to you? You give up and move on

Jeff? No, you complain about it on social media. Before you give up, Jose you might send them like one last funny meme. You can go to give up. I'm waiting for them to respond to me still, Jeff. Alexis, maybe you'd send them a Venmo request to get them to reply. Might as well go out strong.

Someone on this show would send them a link to a map with their exact location and a note below saying I'm watching you. I'm just saying could be both of us. I promise you it works.

But one of our listeners was faced with that situation and did something a little unusual in order to get his crush's attention. We'll find out if his strategy worked in a second date update. Next. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Second date update.

There's so many different themed bars nowadays that are like fun and kitsy. There's one where you can get drinks on a working carnival carousel. Oh, that's so cool. You just go up and down on your horsey while getting shui-sted. It sounds like I'm going to vomit. Yeah, that's true. It's part of the fun. There's another one that's called the ping pong emporium with over a hundred ping pong tables you just play and drink the whole time. It's like beer pong or whatever pong you want. Whatever type. Dude, that's awesome. My personal favorite though is Luz gas station just off the

highway. I don't think that's themed, buddy. It is themed. It's just like a gas station, and you can actually pump gas there. You just get a six-piece sushi and a 40 of Mickey's, and then you head into the restroom and see what happens. Kitchy. That's my style. But I guess one of our listeners did a themed bar for his first date the other night.

His name is Matt, so let's talk to him. Matt, how you doing? I'm doing okay. How are you guys? Are you wishing you knew about Luz sooner, so you could have taken her there? I could show you where it is. I mean, I'm open to new places, yeah. That's my guy.

Maybe I'll see you in the restroom there. But first, let's focus on this date you went on. Who is the woman that you met? Tanita is her name. Tanita. Did you guys meet online on an app? No, actually, she's a friend of a coworker of mine. Whoa.

We never hear about things like this. Real live people. This is weird. Yeah, I'm recently single. My coworker just was like, oh, she's recently single, too. showed me a picture. I was like, oh, yeah, she's cute.

Let's do this. I hate that. Okay. I mean, he thought she was cute. That's exciting. Nobody sets you up unless they're taking pity on you. What? Well, they're both looking for a rebound.

That's what it is. I got set up with my husband. Exactly. Yeah, pity. No, there's no pity. Someone felt bad for you and hooked you up with some stranger. He's a great man.

He turned up to be the best guy ever. Yeah, he is. You, that's what I'm saying, yeah. Wait a minute. You're the pity party over here. I was trying to say. Anyway, back to Matt, Brooke. Let's not focus on your pitiful life.

Matt, tell us about yours. Well, I was kind of trying to make it a year of yes. So I can understand where you're coming from. So I was like, you know what? I'm just going to say yes to these things. Yeah. What was it like when you guys first met? We first, we talked on the phone and we decided like, yeah, let's meet in person.

So we went to this bar that is like a bar and board games place. Oh, I've heard of those. Okay, why do you say, oh, like, it's negative, Jeff? Board games for, like, you know, romantic activity. It's fun. But that's for you, Jeff. Yeah, for like a family game night, but I don't know about a date. Yeah, what games were you playing?

So, like, my favorite game is Connect 4 and hers is sorry. So we grabbed one of those two. And those are perfect because they're easy to have conversation at the same time you're playing them. Yeah, I mean, that's what I like about Connect 4 is, like, it forces you to look at the person Because it's vertical, you know? Yeah. Because it's vertical. And sorry helps you apologize.

And how to practice for the relationship? I've definitely played both of those games before, but with blindfolds and handcuffs on. So it was probably a little bit different rules than you played. How do you know when you win Connect 4 if you have a blindfold on, Jeff? Yeah, that seems like there were some different rules. Yeah. Yeah. We don't talk to Jeff about that stuff.

You did the childhood rules. Yeah. What was it like? It was great. Neither one of us were like overla. competitive, we had some drinks. I mean, your producer even asked me. He was like, is there anything that you could think of that

went wrong? Honestly, there was nothing that was weird. We got to know each other and it felt really cool. Do you think it was too boring? I mean, like, that's the only thing, like if there's nothing that stood out? Yeah. No, it was fun. Another thing is, after the date is kind of a different story.

Uh-oh. Oh. Boy, what do you mean? So I fully intended to go out with her again and she was into it. We talked about it. So the next day, I sent her a text and I didn't get any response. So after a few hours, I was feeling a little antsy. So I sent another and I'll just, I'll read it to you guys. Hold on.

So I wrote, you better text me back because I might go out with someone else tonight and like a bunch of cute emojis. Oh, no. I mean, I see what you were trying to do there. If you're speaking a text. If you spoke it, maybe, but reading it, especially when you read it from someone you don't know that way. Absolutely. I thought she would see that it was a joke and she'd be like, yeah, what's his name?

You know, like, I thought she was going to rib me back on it. What's the name of the guy you're going out with? So what did she say back? Anything? No. And so I just kind of sent a few more texts. No. Oh, God.

No. What did you say as a follow-up? I just kind of stuck with the same theme. I just was like, all right, I'm going. out. I like sent her a picture of some shoes. I was like, see, I'm getting bailed up. I'm getting my hands on it. Years from now, I'm going to walk down the island, say I do. If you don't text me back.

So, bro, you try. That is so grinky. I'm sorry. I kind of love that she ignored it all. Have you talked to the coworker that set you guys up? No, because I just feel like it's embarrassing. It's too embarrassing. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I even sent her a sorry jiff with like the commercial from the board game. Okay. Trying to make an inside joke that's not really happening there. Just too far past.

Exactly. This might be too far gone, but there's a chance we could bring it back. Can we delete the text? Is it too late for that? I'd be too late for that, but hopefully we can get her on the phone and sweetly convince her to give it another try. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I really, I mean, you guys know that.

So if you can help me, I'd appreciate it. Just don't start the convo with. You better text me. Jack. Well, you better stay on hold this entire time where we're going to move on to a different person and get them a second date update. Yeah, I just sent you a picture of my shoes. I deserve that. I deserve that.

We're going to do your second date update right after this. Hold on, man. Broken Jeffrey in the morning. Second date update. If you're just joining us, we're on the phone with Matt, who says he went out on the perfect first date. Oh, okay. Beers, board games. Yeah, it's fun.

body flirtations. That night was flawless. After the date, though, a little bit of a different story. Yikes. Matt admits he may have messed up because she wasn't responding to his texts. Yeah. And in a misguided effort to get Tanita to respond,

he tried to egg her on a little bit with something like, hey, if you don't respond to me, I'm going to go out with someone else. Oh, my God. And he's only given it a couple hours, too, for her to respond. It's not like she'd left him on red for a day or two. And when he still got no reply back, he kept teasing for a while saying, I'm serious, I'm going to swipe on someone else soon.

Now I'm putting on my shoes if you don't call me back. Are you a dad? Because dad's never known when the joke's over either. I am not a dad. Just checking. The thing is, he hasn't said like he's in love with her or anything like that. But you can tell that he does like her. And you might do some questionable things when you're really into someone.

No, I really truly think you read it as a joke. I think she did not. Yeah, I mean, that's the basis of it. I think I just figured I'm already embarrassed. I might as well lean in. Yeah. Yeah. You tried.

We're going to try harder, though. We're going to try harder. We're going to call Tina here in just a second. Digging out of a hole. Yes. You're not painting it very nicely for him. You're kind of piling off. When you asked.

I'm just saying I like to get a little positivity before we make these calls, a little forward momentum. Oh, okay, then maybe she blocked you before she saw the rest of them. There we go. That's positive. That's good. That's the forward, bright thinking that we need. Don't you feel a little bit better now, Matt? Thrilled, yeah.

Good news is we're not blocked yet, so let's call and see what she has to say. Here we go. Hey, is this Tanita? This is. Hey, Tanita. You're on the radio right now with a fun moment. morning show called Brooke and Jeffrey. Welcome to the show, Tanita.

Yeah. Oh, let me get another cup of coffee. Okay. That's actually our tagline. Yeah. It's not. I'm joking. I know this might be weird, but we do want to talk to you about your dating

life a little bit if you have a second. Oh. What do you mean? What are you talking about? It's a segment that we do on our show called Second Date Update, and one of our listeners has reached out because he went out. with you recently, had a great time, and now hasn't been able to arrange that second meetup. His name is Matt.

Oh, okay. Yeah, he said he's played board games together, which sounded really fun. Yeah, it was fun. The whole date was fun until after the date. After the date wasn't fun? Well, yeah, I mean, I don't know. I don't know if he told you anything or whatever. We did hear that there were some texts.

exchanged. And by exchanged, I mean just from him. And the good news, he's self-aware at how embarrassing those are. Oh, really? Well, there were a lot more than just some text. It was like, I mean, I don't know to the extent of what he said,

but like... He said there was a lot that he was trying to, like, egg you on and say he was going to go on a date with somebody else if he didn't reply. He was trying to joke. But we also understand how it could be read not as a joke at all. And by, like, read literally just as a joke. a red flag. Yeah, well, he, like, literally walked me through an entire date with somebody.

And that's where I kind of was like, maybe. Yeah. What do you mean? Wait, what do you mean you walked you through a date? Oh, yeah. It was first, like, he was talking about, like, let's meet up. And then he's like, oh, I'm going to go out with somebody if you don't text me back. And then it was like, I'm out with a girl now. What? You're his big out. Wait, wait. He really went out on dates? No, I think he was a joke. I think he was just joking. I thought that was that was that was. That was the perspective that we got. Hold on. You read us the text and maybe we can decide.

Yeah. Okay, okay. Hold on one second. I'm going to look it up. You didn't really go on dates. I didn't think so. Okay. I'm walking out the door now.

That was the last. Okay. Oh, that was a text. Okay. Yeah, you know. I just bought us drinks. Everything's going well. Oh, my God.

I think he's trying to be funny. But this feels icky now, though. Yeah. I'll read you his next text. Okay. I'm playing pinball with her, but sure wish I was playing games with you. The board games that you were playing on your date? Still gets worse.

Wait, there's more? No. There's more. Oh, I like that you can find the humor in this, though. I appreciate that. It's a little bit terrifying, actually, but his next text, this is the last one I got. So I kissed her at the end of the night, but was thinking of. of you the whole time. Smiley face, winky face, heart.

Oh, my God. No. That's, that's like mean. And this is over like a, what, three hour time span that he sent any of these? Well, it was like a whole day from the beginning of. Oh my God. How did you not respond or block him? Honestly, after the first one, I was at work. It was like there wasn't even enough time between the fact for me to answer him. And then it just went off the rail. Whoa. Did he make up that date too? Yeah, he had to.

Or is that a real thing? I mean, what is he doing? Like, literally texting at the same time he's kissing someone? No, after. I'm very curious, and I just want to ask him directly because I need to tell you to Anita that Matt's on the other line right now listening to this. Yeah. With another girl.

It doesn't help. Matt? Hey, yeah. I, man, I thought I was embarrassed before. Matt. Fill us in, buddy. What's going on? Fill her in.

I mean, what do you want me to say? I told you guys I sent some embarrassing texts already. You said you sent like four. Not a whole day's worth. Not I just made out with my date. Yeah. I don't remember giving a number. Are you on a date?

What? Were you on a date with another woman for real? Or was that all just like made up as a joke? I really don't want to have to say. Oh, dude. Well, then it's not funny at all. I thought that you were like, ha-ha guy. No, look, look, okay, here's it.

So I went on another date, okay? Oh, my God. Tamita, I thought about you the whole truth. It doesn't matter. Okay, well, maybe that's... Have you learned nothing in the last two minutes. To be like, honey, I cheated on me, but I was thinking about you the whole time. Okay.

So creepy. I'm sorry. I mean, Tintanaida, does it change your mind a little bit that he actually followed through and went out with a real girl, it's like kind of sweet and truthful in that way. It'd be kind of deranged if he made that whole thing up. Yeah.

I don't think so. If he made it up, I would have gone out with him again because that was like, I totally would have. Because he's really, really trying hard and maybe making the joke. But no, this is like a hard pass, hard pass. Oh, my God. We haven't even gotten to that part yet, Tudan.

Okay, hey, can I change my answer? I made the whole thing up. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Let's rewind the tape and delete. I feel like this is the first time ever. It's like normally people want what they can't have. And.

Yeah. Tanita just doesn't want it. Yeah. We don't know that for sure yet. I think that's pretty clear. But go ahead. I mean, it's part of the segment. I just think before I ask, Tanita, obviously he's very embarrassed by what happened, but he

knows he made a mistake. And sometimes when you really, really are into someone, you do really, really, really dumb stuff because you're afraid of losing that. Like make out with other women. I mean, that happens when you're really into. Yeah, Texwell doing it. Plus, Matt, you're not still seeing that girl, right? No, no.

I mean. Good answer. Okay. I think he was just about to say here. Let's stop having you talk and start asking Tannita if you'd like to go out with Matt one more time and we'd pay for it. You know, he was so good at Kinex 4 and so good at sorry. He wins all the games, so he's really good at playing games. I'm going to say no.

Oh. Oh. Oh. That was a weird way to get in there. I've got my hopes up for a second. I know. I feel like he's good at the date. I thought he was going to be like, what are you doing?

All right. Matt, there's your answer. Yeah. We can't catch you another date, buddy. Yeah. I thought of something to say, but I almost feel like it's worse than the other stuff I thought. Oh, I don't think that the whole can't get deeper at this point.

Matt, go ahead. Yeah, go ahead. Kenita, I just wish you would quit playing games with my heart. No. Oh, my God. Hang up, Jeff. Hang up. Okay.

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Oh man, I was so hoping when we asked the question, tell me that wasn't a real date. I really wanted him to say, no, that's not real. Are you crazy? I made that up to get under her skin. Yeah, that's exactly what he should. have said, even if it was a lie.

Oh, my God. This man, I swear. And, like, he didn't fill us in on that part. Like, when we first talked to him. Yeah. This is, like, important information. So when he told us he really did go out with someone else, you could hear all of our reactions. Yeah.

Plus, the text board was lighting up with people. Just call him an idiot. Yeah, not happy. No. They said ditch this guy. We did get one text in support of Matt, though. Was it the other person he was out with? No, it was from.

Matt himself. Oh, okay. He said, hey, this is Matt. I'm listening to myself on the radio, and I think she should reconsider. It's not as bad as it sounds. Come on, Matt. He's really good at texting while he does things. Matt, it was as bad as it sounds.

But it's amazing. He can get a lot of first dates. Yeah. I mean, he had two. Back to back. He's likable. The trick is that next one. Yeah.

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