Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - Second Date Update Classics: Double Roasted Turkey + 20 Treadmills of Love

Episode Date: December 6, 2025

Part 1  One of our listeners met a guy in a peculiar way… by SAVING HIS LIFE! But why doesn’t he ever want to see her again? We’ll use a Second Date Update to find out. Part 2 The woman on the phone today was SHOCKED when she got a look inside her date's home and saw what he collects...Even though he swears it's for a good reason. Find out what it is in the podcast!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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If it's not already decorated. Yeah, come on, late to the game. Oh, that was my plan. Oh, I got Christmas trees last weekend. We put stuff up in November. Dude. Actually, you're maybe the last person I know who doesn't have decorations up. Okay, didn't know that this was going to turn into that.

It was. And actually, this was going to start before you mentioned it, because Tommy commented, Brooke, how are you? I love the show. Have you decorated for Christmas yet? Oh, way. That was the comment? Yes.

Listen, I'm not as good as you guys, apparently. Well, she did not. I am, though. I am. It'll be done by Monday. We had our Christmas tree up on Thanksgiving dinner. I'm surprised you ever took it down. All right.

Here we go. Your back-to-back classics start right now. I feel like now most couples meet through dating apps or social media or by calling the phone number, somebody carved into the bathroom mirror in the truck stop off Highway 7 out of 51. Has that really ever led to a relationship jam? Well, it depends on what you consider a relationship. Don't ask how I know that. I just do.

Yeah, that's the next question. But one of our listeners says she recently met a guy the old-fashioned way by saving his life. What? What the heck? Saving his life. That's how people used to do it back in the 1,300s, and it's finally coming back. Okay. That's a lot of work.

How did she do it? And afterwards, why won't he hang out with her? Oh. You're going to find out what happened in a second date update. Next. Second date update. You know, a wise producer once told me, out of crisis comes opportunity. Okay.

And then that's good. That producer got fired from the show. Oh. But it's the one that. Yeah, now, see, he had the opportunity at that point to go off and enjoy a wonderful, stress-free life. Without us. Without us in it at all. What an opportunity.

But he didn't take that opportunity because we rehired him back onto the show. Yeah, it was a battle. Yeah, it was a bad choice on his part, I think. He actually made the dumbest decision of us all. He should have taken his own advice. But we need him. I don't know. He's an idiot.

I don't know. I'm not a big fan of that guy, but one of our listeners did have an opportunity. come out of crisis, and she actually seized the moment. Okay. Made it into something good. Her name is Kelly, and she's asked us for help today. Kelly, how you doing? Hi, hi, guys.

Thank you so much. Oh, my gosh. I can't wait to hear about it. I mean, I guess I shouldn't say I can't wait to hear about your crisis, but usually crisis means something bad happened? Yeah, what happened? So I met this guy who happens to be in my apartment building. hiding in the closet?

No, no. Like, nothing weird like that. No, I was just at home. Okay. But suddenly smelled smoke. And it was weird because, you know, like, you think, is there a fire? But there was no alarm going off. And then you're like, am I having a stroke?

Is that just nobody else's next? Is that he birthed? Oh, that's what it is. Yeah. But that's what people over 50 tend to think. So I get wrong. I heard that. I've never heard of that.

Yeah. Well, so I smelled the smoke and just decided to follow it because I knew I'm like, okay, I'm not. Oh, yes. Run towards the fire. That's what they teach you in fire class. You have to figure out if something's actually on fire. That's really scary. Yeah.

So I did notice that one of my neighbors, the door was closed, but there was smoke coming out of it. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. That's so scary. Did it smell like fire? or was somebody like hotbox in their apartment? Oh, no, no, no, no.

It was smoke. It wasn't like fire. She doesn't live on the same floor of Snoop Dog. That would be. It's interesting where everybody's minds on this show goes. Because I would have still approached. I would have been like, yo, share. You know what I mean?

No, I'm like scared. That's scary. I was scared because it was clearly coming out from under this door. Oh, my gosh. What'd you do? Yeah. I just started banging like crazy on the door to see. Anyone was inside, and this guy opens the door.

Oh, someone was in there? Yeah. He was wearing an apron. And I asked him, is everything okay? And he completely apologized and explained that he was attempting to cook a turkey for the first time in his life. Oh. Once you said apron, I was like, oh, this is just bad luck. Well, I feel bad for him because I'm a good cook, actually.

So I'm like, do you need help? I went inside. Oh, you had so nice. Oh, you still rescued him. Yeah. Well, he was very cute. Oh, then he rescued you. Like a cooking angel.

And what's his name? Brad. Okay. And had you met Brad prior to this? I mean, I had seen parts of him, you know, up and down the elevator, but I hadn't, like, formally ever introduced. So he's just so desperate for anybody to help him cook whatever he's trying to cook, that he's like, yeah, sure, come in?

Yeah, he welcomed. he was freaking out because he had invited his boss and a couple of co-workers over for dinner that night so that wouldn't have gone wow so I ended up I was there for like two hours and

oh wow I helped them prep a really good meal I couldn't salvage the turkey but definitely some flirting going on there was okay I definitely laughed before his boss got there like I wasn't going to

cross boundaries or whatever and he he was just so thankful and he kept saying i owe you and he said he wanted to take me out for dinner oh okay and you didn't see any like hints in his apartment of other women or anything like he seemed single beyond single anytime you have a guy who has smoke billowing out from underneath their door it's a good sign that they're probably single yeah that's good reasoning i like that okay i agree with that so it's Sounds like he asked you out and has that happened or? Well, no, because I haven't heard from him. I texted him a couple of days later.

I wanted to give him his face and I asked how dinner went. But he has not responded. I just, I feel like he's avoiding me. But now I'm like kind of freaking out because I'm wondering if the meal went really badly. Oh. I didn't even think about that. Like maybe you're not as good of a cook as you think you are. Or the boss came over and got.

food poisoning or he's like burnt turkey's my favorite meal why would you throw that away dude that's wild have you seen him on your floor or in the elevator or anything since he lives there it's back to the way i would see him before just like glimpses like the back of his hair you know maybe it's not a bad thing maybe the cooking was so good that his boss fell in love with him and now they're in a relationship oh cute um thank you for that. Yeah, I'm pulling for you here, Kelly. So we're going to play a song. We'll come back. We'll call Brad and try and get you your second date update right after this, all right? Thank you. Hold on.

Second Date Update. Today's second date update sounds kind of like the start of a Hallmark movie. You know, the hunky single bachelor has the big boss coming over for dinner, but he can't cook a turkey. Oh, time is running out when who swoops in to save the day His cute female neighbor from down the hall Who also happens to be single Oh, Jeff, I thought it was cute No, it sounds cliche I love it.

It's super cliche, she offers to help And not only teaches him lessons in the kitchen But also lessons in love. Come in this holiday season, it's the Christmas wishbone. Oh. And Kelly, when this eventually makes its way to Hollywood. Which actor is going to play your date, Brad?

Oh, I would say, Zach Ephron. Oh, Zach Ephron. Does he look like Zach Ephron? I think Zach Efron's doing your type of movies these days. Well, Zach Efron from, like, back, you know, what is that? High school musical days? Underage Zach Ephron either. I would get there.

Okay. Yeah, what have a teenager play your love interest. Yes, high school musical. Troy Bolton, baby. All right, well, this is romantic, and now we made it weird. All right, well, we're going to call Brad, who is of age, right? I would say he's, like, in his late 20. Okay.

Okay. You know, hopefully it's nothing too big, since you guys do live on the same floor. Oh, yeah. I mean, honestly, we have to be careful with this, because it is going to end up really awkward. I hope it does, actually, for the sake of the entertainment. Yeah, that's true. He's right. For your sake, Kelly, I hope that there's a totally logical explanation.

We're going to find out right now. Thank you, guys. Okay, let's call Brad and see what he has to say. Here we go. Okay. Hey, is this Brad? Yep. Who's that?

He is honky sounding. I would agree with that. This is a Brad. Brad and, Brad. Brad, hey, you're on the radio right now with Brooke and Jeffrey. Good morning. Yo, good morning. Wait, the radio?

Why? Yeah. Because it's fun. That's a word. We do a segment on our show called a second date update, and we're trying to help one of our listeners named Kelly get back in touch with you. I mean, technically you guys didn't really go out on a date. It was more like an emergency, but...

Oh, okay. Yes, Kelly. Yeah, we heard you had some cooking problems, and Kelly stepped in to help you out, save the day. Yeah, that's true. Did you like Kelly? Yeah, I mean, sure. Uh-oh.

Here's the thing. I don't know if I could hang out with Kelly really outside of a crisis situation, to be honest. Oh. Are you in a relationship or something? I've never heard that. We can only hang out during a movie. Yeah. No, but like she thought that you were single.

Yeah, I'm single. I'm single. Yeah, that's not it. Okay. Well, Kelly's a little bit confused after you guys hung out and she helped you cook because she says you've been kind of avoiding her texts and not talking to her when you guys see each other in the apartment. Is that accurate? I mean, look, it was nice that she helped me.

You know, my boss really liked the dinner. Oh, that's good. That was one of the things that we were talking about. She was worried maybe the meal didn't turn out good. Nothing like that. Now, I don't know. really how to explain. Are you just maybe not attracted to her?

No, no. She's a cute girl, but it was like, like, you know, when we were cooking, it was like cooking with Gordon Ramsey. I had a high-step situation, you know, I was freaking out. I'd burnt my dinner. My boss was coming over. Brad, are you butt hurt seriously? Whoa.

What the heck? Wait, he was just explaining. We don't even know what he was going to say, Kelly. Gordon Ramsey? I don't think so. Oh, it sounds like immediately yes, though. Sorry, Brad. We're supposed to tell you, Kelly's on the other line listening.

Are you kidding me? No, I'm not kidding. I am not pleased, Brad. Hold on. Here comes Master's show. We didn't even get the full explanation of what happened. I thought he was saying Gordon Ramsey like you were a really good cook. Yeah, like a top notch.

No, more like cooking with Gordon Ramsey when he's screaming at you. It was the most stressful situation. And then that was insult to injury. I mean, let me tell you, like. Like, I think at one point she asked me for a chef's knife. I give her a knife, and she goes, no, that's a butcher's knife, you dummy. I was for that. I mean, that's kind of cute banter.

He only yells at people that are bad. So, like, is she saying you deserve it? Do what she tried to be playful and it came off wrong, Kelly? I think I was being very playful and very flirtatious. It just, you know, there was a shock level for me that I needed to digest. I mean, that. Oh. He didn't even know what a bollion cube was, okay?

I've never heard of that in my life. Let's be honest. I'm not like a kitchen guy. Like, I'm not watching the food network all the time. You know, you're fucking to know what a bullion cube is, and I don't. It's not like something really to make fun of me about. I guess, I don't know. I was just in shock.

I was just in shock. Like, my jaw was like literally on the floor. I mean, you didn't even have an immersion blender. That's so fancy. I don't think a lot of single guys have immersion blunders in their kitchen. An immersion blunder will change your kitchen experience. Then don't even have silverware. You know, they have plastic forks and knives.

Kelly, I think you're expecting a lot of him. Yeah, thank you. I was just in shock, and I flirtatiously informed him of my shock, but I didn't insult you. They were flirty threats. I don't know. The way they came out. I have something to say to you. She's not done.

Yeah. What, Kelly, what do you have to say to him? You obviously have no b***. Oh. Oh, what you did? I thought you were going to say, I'm sorry if I insulted you. I was expecting a sweet moment. All right.

Oh, you see what I'm saying here. Why would you say that, Kelly? Yeah, it's a little harsh. Someone with a b*** would say to my face, hey, you know what? You're being a little harsh with me. Brad, you never. informed me of that. Oh.

You were very flirtatious with me. You were helping you. I saved the day. You needed me. Okay. I mean, I get all that, but you called me a stupid motherfucker. Whoa.

There's Gordon Rand. Oh, please. I don't know. I've heard Brooks says that to her husband all the time in a flirtatious way. I was saying it in a very flirtatious way. How?

How did you say that in a flirty way? Get over here, you stupid mother. Oh, she winked when she said it. Okay. So why does that make it scarier? I mean, Kelly, can you hear that maybe you're not the most approachable when it comes? Can you hear your stupid, annoying voice asking me that question? Do you hear yourself?

And I am not winking. There is no way to my voice right now. I got to say I'm on Kelly's side with this one. That was a really stupid question. Brooke can't hear herself. She's wearing headphones. Yeah, I know. Why are you so scary?

Do you what I'm talking about, guys? When time was counting down, she totally transformed and just went after me. Oh, wow. You know, Brad, go f*** yourself. This is my house. I called, not you. You don't have the to speak. Oh.

Frankly, you don't have the paroxy. I'm not going to speak, you mrs. Oh, my God. What is going on? The sparks and the romance are flying. It's just like Gordon Ramsey. Is this the flirty that she was talking about? Is this it?

I'm scared to tell her that we only have a minute left before we have to go to a song. Do you ask Brad at this point? Yeah. Hey, stupid mother-eck, would you like to go out with this lady one more time? I think I'm better off. Yeah. Try again, Brad. Wrong answer.

It sounds like you'd have a charming evening. Maybe it would help if you guys weren't cooking together, if you're doing something else. I could only imagine a car ride over to the restaurant. I mean, if I was driving, that would sure be interesting. I said, take a left here, you idiots. That's the parking spot? That's a compact space. This is a large vehicle.

What are you doing? I don't know. I guess it's not in the stars for you, too. I think I would have thrown myself out of the car if I was in there. We would drive separately. Oh, okay. Good choice. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. May 24th, 1990, a pipe bomb explodes in the front seat of environmental activist Judy Berry's car.

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You know, I've learned from Brooke that if a man ever gets yelled at by a woman, then, quote, he probably deserved it. That is not true. That is just a general rule of thumb. People start to believe this stuff about me, Jeffrey. Look, I'm going to be honest here. I don't think that was the case this time. And Brooke might even agree with me on that. It's not the case most the time.

Oh. Yeah. Interesting. It just depends on the circumstance. Okay. That's a correct statement. The opinions really changed depending on the sentence I just said. So she really did go.

She went from zero to a hundred. Oh my God. As soon as she heard Gordon Ramsey. We barely even heard him talk. I just never understand how you can be that unself aware. Like you don't realize you're doing it, I guess. And then when somebody calls you out, then you go even harder into it.

Yeah, self-awareness is an interesting thing, isn't it, Brooke? Yeah, it is, Jeffrey. Are you guys both having realizations? I think he's trying to make fun of me, but I'm not falling for it, okay? Not this time. I think we all can learn a lot from the second date update. And the most important lesson you can learn is that we can try and help you out if you ever need help in your dating life.

Maybe just be nice to people. Or just we'll take the abuse for you. Yeah, sure. And you can do that by emailing the show, because we'll call the person. person who isn't calling you back. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. This is crazy to say, but Brooke, Jose and I have all worked together for well over a decade. Oh, my God.

It has been so long. I think my 12 years is coming up and you guys work even longer. I'm at 23, I think. I mean, it's a long time we've attended weddings together, going to parties, done cross-country trips. But one very strange fact that is true is. None of us, not one, has ever actually been to Brooke's house before. Seriously?

Never been invited, never been allowed. Only in public. I've always wondered why. What is she hiding in there that she doesn't want us to see? She thinks we're just going to stop by or something unannounced? Are the walls inside made of gold bricks? We're going to see how much money she's worked. Or more likely, does she have 20 orphans in her basement who sew all of her clothes?

for her. I swear it's a rental service I use. Oh, a rent-in-orthing service. That's pretty nice. I wonder her clothes are so goofy-looking. We may never know the truth, but one of our listeners says she was pretty shocked when her date told her about the strange thing in his home. And he even had to bring out pictures to prove he wasn't joking. What?

It weirded all of us out, even Brooke. And you're going to hear what it was in your second date update. Next. Second date update. I know Brooke has said multiple times almost suspiciously that she's not on any dating apps Yeah, she always brings it up

Hey Brooke, what are you doing over there? Not swiping on range of men online That's for sure I have not like dating apps I think She's doubling down What are you saying? We're all going to believe her on this

But let's say Brooke was on the apps Okay What would her profile say? Oh my gosh Probably give me your name, phone number, and how many Cheetos you can fit in your mouth. And she paused awkwardly

after phone number. So nobody would understand the Cheeto joke. And are those puffs or the classics? Yeah. I'm not sure what that means. Also, I come from a clown family. Ask me more. It's a magician, okay? Don't ask of help.

Bottom line, it would probably be a total disaster. But what about the rest of the normal people out there? What's on their dating profiles? Let's find out and talk to Elena, who emailed the show for help. Okay. Welcome to the chaos. Hey, Elena.

Hey, everyone. How are you? Elena was swipe right on me. Yeah. Totally. Yeah, a way to be nice, Elena. Do you into the ladies or the guys? Well, right now we're talking about Trey.

Okay. And what does Trey have on his dating profile that stuck out to you? You know what? A couple things. I mean, one physically beautiful eyes, gorgeous smile. I mean, just typical, like, drop-dead. Yeah, and then an average of 10 Cheetos, right? Enough with Frito-Lay obsession.

Yeah. Okay. So he's a beautiful man? Yeah. And what did stick out was he loves adventures. He, like, wants to fill his time with his hobbies of adventures. What does that mean? That's so vague.

Like, is he specific on that? Well, he liked biking. I mean, just lots of, like, outdoorsy stuff. Okay. Adventures makes it sound like he likes to get out and travel and see new things. Yeah, rock climb. That's what I think of. I mean, that's a really nice thing to say in your profile, even if it isn't true.

Yeah, it's true. So did you meet up with him? We did. We got some drinks. And right when he walked in, he looked so much smaller in person. Like his pictures, yeah, I made him look just a little bit more like. Are you talking height-wise? Are you talking size?

Like everything. Everything is small. Yeah. From your voice, it sounds like you were disappointed in how he looked physically. Is that true? Usually smaller on a guy isn't exciting. Yeah, no. Not about the size about how you use it.

A girl's obsess about it. Yeah, I wasn't. He said everything. That's muscles. That's everything smaller. It's just a difference. Okay, so I did bring it up. I was like, you know what?

I'm kind of surprised. Like, in your photos, you look just a little bit more. Wow. What? That is bold. What didn't he say? Well, I wasn't mean about it, guys. I don't know.

But also, if he's a catfish, he should get called out. I mean, it's some purpose. There's so much craziness online, but he was laughing about it. He says, actually, I'm on a health kick. And I was like, oh, really? What kind of health kick are you on? And he's like, it's a huge health kick. So I've definitely lost, like, 30 pounds recently.

I was like, oh, okay. And you're like, you didn't need. too i liked you when you were bulky yeah i didn't know that you could shrink from that stuff too like height wise well i couldn't see his height but you know what i'm saying like everything just small so anyway you not believe this this man tells me he has a treadmill in every single room in his house what in every room is it's a one bedroom was that a joke no so i start laughing because i'm like oh wow crazy health kick yeah and he says No, really. My buddy and I cleaned out a warehouse that had a huge bunch of treadmills, ellipticals, blah, blah, blah, so they sold a bunch of them.

But there were just some leftovers. So I kept a lot of them. What? So he's got like a little mini 24-hour fitness in his apartment. Either that or he's got an area in each room to throw all of his clothes on. Yeah. Drying rack. Okay. So this isn't a red flag to you. Trymills get boring.

It's nice to mix up this. scenery keeps him motivated if he keeps seeing the treadmill he'll want to eventually get fit it was intimidating too it was intimidating for you a little bit a little bit too but you know what the conversation we ended up laughing about it and then it was like we're having drinks but we started having those fun like hey let's go on another date let's see each other again let's yeah and it turned out super fun and out of the blue he says to me hey what would you do if I show up at your house tomorrow and say, hey, let's go to the Virgin Islands, and we leave in three hours.

What? That's crazy. And I was like, heck yeah. Oh, you said yes. You're like a wild child. You're ready to go. Was that a joke or was he serious? You know, I think he just threw it out hypothetically,

the trip, but I am an adventurous lady. That's interesting. So he sounds like, I mean, also like he's just a big dreamer, right? Like he's always got some big grand plan and you love that idea. Yeah. And it was fun to, like, daydream like that. Yeah. So how did that night end?

Not in the Cayman Islands? No, not in the payment, unfortunately. Well, we said bye with a hug, which was kind of... No kiss. Yeah. No kiss. You think a guy like that would go in for a kiss if he was really wanting to take you to... I thought so, too.

And it was a hug that wasn't as big of a hug as she was expecting because he's so small. My arms just kept going. Yeah. He just thrown elbows. And he wasn't there to pick you up the next day. like he threw out. He definitely didn't come by. He didn't come by.

It's been like a week. It's been a week. Yeah, but I don't know what I did. I keep thinking was I too much like a friend almost? I don't know. Sometimes those big dreamer people can also be big flaky. You know what I mean? Like it's like a lot of talk and not a lot of follow through.

Or he's like off hiking a mountain somewhere. That could be. But your email to us said that you've been texting with Trey a few times. Well, I've been texting. He just hasn't responded. Maybe he's just, waiting for you to show up at his house. What if he's literally in the Cayman Islands and was like, oh, I forgot to pick her up.

Yeah. Oh, no. It's like the Jamaican version of Home Alone. Yeah. We're going to hopefully bring it to a happy conclusion when we come back. We'll call Trey for you and try and get you your second date update. Get you over to one of those islands right after this, okay? Awesome.

Second date update. One man, one woman, and 20 treadmills. all running at the exact same time. How romantic! It's a 400-meter sprint to love. You put this one! At least how it's going for our listener, Elena. Oh, it's so funny.

The guy that she was recently out with named Trey, because they went and grabbed some drinks. She learned that he really does have treadmills in every single room of his house. That's just nuts. That was the weird part of the night. Afterwards, it got a lot better from there, and they were laughing together.

They were planning future. dates and he even threw out a theoretical of maybe taking her to an exotic island showing up at her house and just whisking her away. I know. And it got her really excited but it's been a week since that date happened and there has been no second date and no

trips abroad. Oh, you know it's like you felt like you recovered from the very beginning but maybe he just really was insulted when you told him he was smaller than in his pictures. Yeah, well maybe because you patted him on the head after you said that. Do you think that's possible, Elena?

possible i don't know it was a pretty fun conversation after that yeah i don't know i could see his reaction i couldn't get over a guy telling me i looked bigger than in my pictures like i wouldn't you know i don't know that i call him back so yeah that's true let's see we're going to call him right now hopefully he's not in the middle of one of his treadmill workouts but that'd be amazing if he was so small i imagine it's like a hamster yeah i'm in the kitchen Hello? I think we're safe. Okay, I think we're good.

Is this Trey? Yeah, this is Trey. Hi, Trey. You're on the radio right now with a show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. How many people are on the phone? Wait, what did you say? Answer your first question, four people are in this room.

Yeah. And this is a radio show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. that you're on right now. Hey. Why? Yeah. Great question, Trey. You're sharp.

We like that. This is a segment called a second date update, and we're trying to help out one of our listeners get a hold of you and maybe even see if we can hook you up for another date because you went out with her already one time named Elena. Oh. You remember her, right? Yeah, no, I know who Elena is. Okay.

Did she have you call me? Uh-huh. Yeah. That's how the segment works. We kind of get a vibe of how the first date went, and then we reach out on her behalf to try and figure out how we can get you two back together. There's a reason she's confused. It sounds like on your date you guys were talking a lot about, like, going out again and how fun that'd be. I mean, yeah, we had a good time.

She seems like she's fun, and that's great. She said a lot of the same stuff about you. Yeah, there is, I don't know, there is a moment. It was kind of a deal breaker for me, so I don't think that's going to be working out. Oh, no. Well, that's all right. I mean, you're allowed to have your opinions on stuff, but it would help if maybe we could know about the moment and pass that along to Elena, just to help her out. Right.

Make her feel better to have some closure. Insight. Would you mind Sharon? Okay. Weird. Okay. I guess I should explain that I have this thing that I do when I go out on a date with someone for the first time. It's kind of like a litmus test

We've heard a few of these before We do a lot of these dating segments And there's a lot of people that have different types of tests When they go out And they usually don't end very well Yeah, but Brooke still, she loves them Yeah It points them into marriage now

I mean I usually ask something to the effect of like If I show up at your door tomorrow And say a plane's leaving in three hours And we're going to the islands You want to come? Oh Oh, that's the test.

Well, she mentioned that to us And she said that she was up for, right? Yeah, she told us it was a fun hypothetical question that you asked on the date. Yeah, she told you how she responded. She seemed excited. Yeah, I'm down to travel or something like that.

Yeah, no, that's the wrong answer to that question. That's like the worst answer you can get me. Wait, let's go. Is the wrong answer? If you're inviting someone to do something and they agree. I thought you were like adventure boy.

What's the right answer? The right answer. is let me check and see if I can or, you know, let me look at my schedule or, you know, I'll have to tell to my friends or anything, really, anything else that indicates that you've got a life of your own that you're living. Oh, you know, let's drop everything for a stranger. I can kind of see that. But it was a hypothetical question. Like, you weren't actually doing it. Like, honestly, if you actually showed up at her door, she probably would have to make some prearrangements.

Yeah. And maybe, but she got very excited, she kept saying, you know, I'm going to pack my bags and be ready to go. she had no indication that she has any responsibilities that she has a career what oh wait hold on no responsibility hold on elena spontaneous well it's too late to surprise him with it now because tray you probably heard her voice at this point that's elena who's been waiting to talk to you you're so funny because you know it's so funny about my responsibilities

is I probably make three times what you make oh oh wow I mean That's not the point. I guess that's a flex, like, good on you, Elena. But why do you bring that up? I don't think that's true. How are you going to test somebody? We need one of you at a time.

Trey, what do you have to say to Elena that she makes three times as much as you? I say that's really unlikely. I don't believe that's true. And even if it were true, it has nothing to do with anything right now. Okay. Well, he sells treadnels on the side, guys. So if you ever need a treadmill and anything like that, He's very good as he's selling those things.

All right. Let's settle this once in for all. Let's all go around the room and say how much money we make a year. Brooke, please start us out. Well, I mean, Trey, that should be great news for you because then Elena can pay for the Cayman Islands vacation and take you with her. You know? Let's hop in the T.J. and fly down there. I'm sure she's got one.

I mean, this all seems so silly. You guys are fighting about a hypothetical question. Is it just a hypothetical question or, Trey? do you really do this and actually take women to islands if if they give you the right answer and say let me check my schedule first you sound very eager geoffrey i want to know because i'm a very very busy man i've got a lot of hobbies and responsibilities if she answers you know she gives a good answer to the question we get a second date and maybe it goes from there okay so it is in the cards it's like a lord of me it's in the cards absolutely yeah we've done it before but it's not something that's going to happen the first night we meet Okay, you're like the troll under the bridge with the riddles. If you answer them correctly, then you can pass. Alina, I'm hearing you saying, like, no, not for me. Like, why are you so closed off to it?

Are you? Really? Yeah. I would never, now that I know he tests and that there's all these, like, hypotheticals and it's just, no, I'm over it. There's not all these hypotheticals and all these hoops. It's just one question. But now I kind of see your word point because it's like, he could be like, hey, do you want dessert? And she's like, no. And he's like, oh, well, you just failed another test.

It's a lot to judge someone's entire life on how they answer that question. And I'll get another hypothetical. You know what, guys, it's my prerogative question. I want to ask on my first date. Sure. But the fact that she brought up money right away to try to one-up me is a huge red flag. It's a really low-class move. It tells me I made the right story.

You're the one that said I didn't have responsibility. Is I just wanted to let you know that my house is fully paid off. And then your mother is, thank you. And I have plenty of things to go around. So that's the thing is you didn't even ask, but you're going to bring up that I don't have responsibility to make yourself look good, babe, I don't think so. Does anyone else?

I mean, I know you guys are just kind of fighting right now, but I really feel like they're a good match. I know. Hypothetically, hypothetically, if that never happened. We might have banned if she didn't get me on the radio to put me on the spot. Oh, but now it's our fault. See, that's her test now.

Yeah, it's always my fault. That's the thing. This is the type of guy he is, I see now. Oh, man. I'm the winner, yay! What? Oh, man, you're not going horribly. Even though this is going horribly, I'm going to ask anyway to send you guys out on a second date that we would pay for.

Yeah, we make so much money. Locally, though, we can't go, we can't cross country borders. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's keep it within the area code. Not in the Cayman Islands, maybe like a Caribbean restaurant. Yeah. Anybody? That's a big hard note for me.

That's a no for me. Oh, okay. It's just a little joke. A little jab. Elena was great. We had a lot of fun on that first day, but it's a no for me. Okay. Well, you two will know at least.

Now I'd like to offer to send Trey and me to a private island. Trey. Elena, will you pay for it? Not me, definitely not. Oh, come on, you make all the money. Your house has already paid off. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. May 24th, 1990.

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have been good for each other. If they had just taken a second to think about it and listen. I think if he would have just dropped that test they would have been on a fourth state by now. That was the only thing. Or if she would have laughed it off and been like, oh, that was like one dumb test. Like, I can get

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Yeah, when we're on air. Oh, my God. Behind closed doors, it's been no for the past four years. Dude, that first baby I had looked exactly like my husband. The second one. She can't even remember the name of it, but that first one. Anyway, we're happy to do these segments and help out with your dating life. Email the show.

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