Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - Second Date Update Classics: High Flyer Liar + The Bartender and the Biker

Episode Date: August 16, 2025

Part 1 The woman in today’s Second Date Update has such a COOL job, it stopped us all in our tracks. We wanted to know every single detail, and you will too coming up in the podcast! Part 2 One ...of our listeners says he got unsolicited life advice from a bartender and it actually might have helped him find the love of his life! We’ll hear his story in your Second Date Update.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:39 Hey, it's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning, and you get double the dose on Saturday. We got two classics back to back, which is always... We are not doctors, but definitely listen to tune and call us on Monday. That's true. Hey, just an aside, if anybody is a huge Swifty out there, Alexis put together, We're a really fun game. We do a podcast exclusive over on our other feed, just the Brooke and Jeffrey main feed,
Starting point is 00:02:59 where we play a game called Today versus Back in the Day, and it's all Taylor themed because of life of a showgirl that got announced this week. So if you guys want to have some fun, get some good Taylor trivia and a little bit of nonsense, head over to that main feed. But right now, we're going to start with comments before we get into this double second date.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Joel, the cool guy. Not me saying his cool, him saying of himself, but I also do he is. I appreciate that, John. Said always listen to you guys while drawing or biking to work. Keep it up. I love listening. Greetings from the Netherlands.
Starting point is 00:03:30 Oh, that's so cool. Yeah. We're everyone bikes. Yeah, basically. It's so cool. And I want to know what you're drawing. Are you drawing us? Do we look good?
Starting point is 00:03:37 Oh. You want to be a model? Kind of. Okay, there it is. Alexis just volunteered. All right, your double dose of second date classics starts right now. Maybe it's just me, but I feel like whenever I'm out in the world, it's a huge conversation, The moment I tell someone, I actually host a radio show.
Starting point is 00:03:58 Yeah. You guys get that, too? Yeah, people are always really interested in what that looks like. It's a cool job. Everyone to me is like, whoa, really? You don't seem good at talking in real life. Your coworkers say that too. Well, that all might be true.
Starting point is 00:04:12 I'm just saying our jobs are definite attention grabbers when we bring them up. But it's nothing compared to the woman that we call today. Because when we found out what she does for a living, everyone in the room stopped and wanted to know every single detail. You're going to understand why when you hear it in your second date update right after this. Second date update. Occasionally, we check back in with callers months after they come on the show to see how their relationship is going.
Starting point is 00:04:42 I love when we do that. We call it a second date update update. Yeah. But today we're doing something kind of new. We have a second date, update, update, update. Okay, wait a minute. That's right. A triple update.
Starting point is 00:04:58 I feel like now we're getting clingy. You know what I mean? Can't we just let people live their lives at some point, Jeff? It's like second and update square? No, we want to be as deeply involved in our listeners' lives as possible. We even live with them. We're doing a trup date today. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:14 I've been involved in a few of those. Different meaning, though. But seriously, one of our listeners, Anthony, reached out to us again. So first of all, Anthony, welcome back to the show. Hey guys, thanks for having me I'm having a hard time placing what Anthony, what you were on before. So last time Anthony was on,
Starting point is 00:05:30 you were dating a woman named Mallory and you guys were saying that you were happy together but she was having you pay for a lot of her and her friend's activities. Oh, I kind of remember this and we're like, oh, she's using you and then you're like, no, she's hot. You're like, I don't mind. Is that, am I remembering right?
Starting point is 00:05:47 That's pretty close. Okay. Okay. So now... Good recap. No Mallory. It's just you today, Anthony, what's going on? So with Mallory, I ran out of money. Oh. Wait, you're broke?
Starting point is 00:06:00 What? Just go get a bank loan, man. Did she? Wait, did she leave you? Well, yeah, she basically dropped me after I stopped paying for everything for her and her friends. Alexis, good, right? I mean, I see where she's coming from. Alexis's like, you go, girl.
Starting point is 00:06:19 That sucks, man. But it sounds like you're better off. without that. Which I think we told you so. Yeah, I think so. Okay. So is that it? Well, I mean, I'm guessing you went on at a date with another person that you're interested in.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Yes, that has been happening. Oh, okay. Who's the new girl? I found a new woman named Lisa. Okay. All right. And what do you like about her? Well, the first thing that.
Starting point is 00:06:52 stands out to me about her I find fascinating is that she does private security detail for celebrity. Whoa. Wow. That's such an interesting job. Brooke, one of your employees. Yeah. This is amazing.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Dude, let's get her on the phone. Was that, was that like right there on her dating profile? No, that's just something that came out after, but she won't tell me who these clients are, and that's what I'm always trying to get out of her. Okay. That's just good at her job, at least. Yeah. The privacy.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Okay. So have you guys been on one date, two dates? Where are you at? We just got out once. Okay. I mean, how did it go? It went pretty well. I mean, another thing that I thought was pretty funny is one thing I did see on her profile is there's like an ad that comes up on people's profiles that says today's high flyer of the week.
Starting point is 00:07:43 Like when they're getting a lot of action, I guess, on their app or something. High flyer, that's what they call it. Oh, that's funny. Is that a good thing for you or a red flag? Jury's out on that. But, I mean, I was calling her the high flyer as a joke. Is that something that she puts on her profile or is it something that the app does automatically? Sorry, I'm an idiot when it comes to apps.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Yeah, I think the app does it if you're really popular on the app. That's another interesting talking point, though, to bring up on the date. Like, how did it go? I was good. At first, I couldn't tell if she was, like, going to be a real person or not, but she was exactly how she described herself. So she's real pretty, is what you're saying. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:23 Well, she's pretty casual. She showed up in Gucci sweats and a two-paw hoodie. Okay. She doesn't have a sense of style. She didn't do a matching set? I think it's kind of cute. No, but I thought it was pretty cool. And we did have fun.
Starting point is 00:08:40 She talks a lot about this charity work she does. So she's really big on giving back to the community. And I was able to relate because I was just been involved with the charity. with my ex-girlfriend and her friends. Ooh, I hope you didn't say that. Yeah, is that how you brought it up? No, no, I made that joke, and then they'll go into further detail about it with their books. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:02 Okay. Okay. So, you kind of ended up being in the chair. We didn't even ask, what were you guys doing? Were you drinking, eating? What was the date about? Yeah, we got a couple drinks. We went to a happy hour. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:13 So it's chill. So that's why she could wear the sweatshirt and the sweatpants. Happy hour, I see you budgeting now. Okay. That was their idea. I think she wanted to meet me in the daylight. Did you feel like you had a good connection with her, though? I did, but, yeah, I could definitely tell why she is the high flyer because her phone keeps buzzing the whole time we're together.
Starting point is 00:09:35 And I have a suspicion that she's definitely talking to more guys than just me. Yeah. Probably. I mean, Jose, if you were out on a date with someone who was a high flyer, is that a red flag to you? No, I would just be happy to. I'm on a date. You're buying a ticket onto that point. Maybe she wants to step off the fast plane, move on to the slow plane with him.
Starting point is 00:09:58 Oh, and I'm definitely on the slow player. Overall, though, how do you think the first date went? Good, Ben. I think it went good. Okay. I was hoping that we're going to go on another date, but her responses are a little spotty. I don't know, and I don't know if you did this or not, but did you ever point out, Hey, your phone is buzzing a lot.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Are you getting a lot of dudes trying to hit you up right now? Oh, like, come across as weirdly jealous? No, I didn't think that would be a good style on my part. Yeah, so that's causing it. I played it cool. I played it cool. It was just slightly eating me up inside. All right.
Starting point is 00:10:33 Okay. You seem to have answers. Let's find out what Lisa has to say for herself. We're going to call the high flyer directly. Maybe she charted it as well. Oh, I hope she answers. We'll read off what's on her chart when we do your second date update right after this. Second Date Update.
Starting point is 00:10:51 Imagine being out with someone you're very interested in in finding out that they do security detail for the rich and famous. Cool. But they won't tell you who. Not only that, they're a verified high flyer on the dating app where you met them. Which means that they get a lot of action. Yeah, they're like on the front page. Yeah, or someone just paid to feature them or something like that.
Starting point is 00:11:13 Yeah, that's what I'm assuming. And they wear Gucci sweats with Tupac hoodie. to first dates like it's no big deal. Yeah. I mean, they're cool. For me, personally, this is a very interesting second date call. Because like Jose said before, I really hope that she actually answers us, because we don't get to talk to people like this very often. Because we cannot be the one that also, like, prize into who the celebrities are she works for.
Starting point is 00:11:37 I know, but we all hard. We could just ask once. I know. He already did that on the date. She didn't want to answer. What if she's, like, standing next to Kim Kardashian right now? It's like, I can't talk. I mean, we do want a lot of answers. from her, but the main thing we want to know is why she's not going out with Anthony. That's true.
Starting point is 00:11:52 Because this is a very unique type of woman. And Anthony, best part is she hasn't made you pay for anything yet either. But you are willing to, yes? Wait. Oh, yeah. Wait, you paid for the date, though, right, Anthony? You paid for happy hour? Yeah, I paid for the date at the bar, but it wasn't like
Starting point is 00:12:07 with Mallory, I wasn't paying for her parking and, you know. The last girl that you were on the show with. Okay. Exactly. But you'll pay for her parking on the second date, at least. Let's call and try and figure out where that's going to be and if she'll go out with you. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:12:31 Hello. Hey, is this Lisa? Yes, it is. Hey, Lisa, what's up? You're on the radio right now with Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Welcome to the show, Lisa. Oh, hi, I guess.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Hi, can you protect us? Like on the phone. If you haven't heard us before, we're low-key-boosy. Are we? The lowest key. I feel like Jeff just learned those words. He's wearing a free show shirt that he's got. Yeah, he is.
Starting point is 00:13:02 Okay. What is this all about? I don't get it. Well, we're one of those weird shows that helps listeners with their dating lives. When they go out with someone and they're not getting a return call back, we reach out and try and help figure out the reason why. Okay I know pretty pathetic on our part
Starting point is 00:13:22 But people get paid to do it Thanks Jeff I kind of like this segment But what I like it too My parents are really ashamed of it But that's not It's not about us We're trying to ask about you
Starting point is 00:13:33 And your relationship With a guy named Anthony Oh Okay You guys went to happy hour Yeah we did Okay Pretty great guy huh
Starting point is 00:13:43 I mean Yeah he's a nice guy Good looking What was your, like, thoughts on the date? I mean, it was really chill. We just had a couple drinks at happy hour, and it was just a date. Oh, okay, nothing to write home about. Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:03 I mean, was there any, like, big red flags to you for why you're not going out with him again? Because he said he's been trying to organize a second meetup, and it's not quite happening. I mean, no, there weren't any red flags when we were sitting there talking. I mean, he was very interesting. He was interested in me. Asked me a lot of questions. Okay. Can I offer something up that he told us?
Starting point is 00:14:24 Sure. He said he was worried he may have offended you by prying too much into your job because he found out you help organize security for big-time celebrities. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. I just made that up to sound interesting. Wait. What?
Starting point is 00:14:43 What do you mean he made it up? Oh, man, I was interested even. We were prepared with all these questions to try and get you to reveal who you do security for. And usually when somebody lies on a date, there's like shame and stuff, you're laughing. Is it like a joke to you? Well, I couldn't tell him what my real job is. Why? Can you tell us your real job?
Starting point is 00:15:08 I guess at this point if I'm not going to see him again, share, I'll tell you what my real job is. What do you do? So I am actually part owner. of the dating site. Wait, what? Whoa, wait a minute. The one where you met, Anthony? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:25 Oh, my God. Some friends had the idea, and we were just talking about stuff, and it's just an idea. Well, they moved forward, and they asked if I wanted to be an early investor, and so I was like, sure, let's do it, and it just kind of blew up. So when it says, when it says high flyer on your dating app, that just means, like, CEO or something? Or you get free modeling, pretty much. I mean, we were looking for trying to, like, do a feature, like, on the app. And I just said, I'll do it. I'm single.
Starting point is 00:15:55 I don't care about the attention, whatever. Wow. Market research. Apparently, it makes an impact. Yeah. I guess so. Okay. So wait, hold on.
Starting point is 00:16:05 So wait, why did you just tell them that you were the app owner? Well, to be honest, I go on a lot of dates. And, I mean, essentially, I would tell people what to be a lot of. is, but also, it would be a little creepy, I would think, in the beginning. Right. Yeah. We're trying to help him figure out what's the reason that you're not going out again. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:23 That's what he's confused about. Okay, okay. Is it so many men? Just so many men you can't choose one? No, no, that is not the reason. So, as an admin, I can tell that he's been messaging other women. And when we were on a date and talking, he told me in conversation that it was just him and I talking.
Starting point is 00:16:43 Oh, you can like, oh. That feels like invasion of privacy. Listen, when you check off on the agreement, I mean, it says any co-founder or manager can monitor your account and your activity. So I am well within my right to do that. That's crazy. And it just proves that men are pigs. Oh. Oh.
Starting point is 00:17:07 Oh, I think it's weirder that he's, yeah, what? Anthony, what do you think about hearing all that? Wow. Hi, Lisa. Yeah, because, oh, yeah, I forgot to tell you, Lisa, it's down way, way deep in our agreement when you come on the phone that he's secretly on middle of the line listening. Okay. I've never gotten. Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:24 Oh, wow. You're super chill. I'm a little shocked, but I totally understand, like, that you couldn't, that, why you had to put that in your profile. Anthony, this feels like the last time you were on the show. Like, you just agree with women no matter what they do to you. Like, this woman's been lying. She, like, invaded your privacy and you're just chill still. Stand up for yourself, brother.
Starting point is 00:17:46 So wait a second. You could actually go into my app and see all the messages, like everything that I've ever written on there? Yes, I can. Oh. I know Anthony's thinking of like three things he said. Hope you keep a PG on there, buddy.
Starting point is 00:18:02 That's how you know she cares. You can't see pictures, right? Oh, yes, I can. Hopefully you can zoom in on it. I don't know if you'll have to zoom in Hey out of boy Anthony Why do I doubt that Anthony? Let's go down a bad path
Starting point is 00:18:21 Lisa does that mean that you weren't talking to anybody else either because I mean yeah I'm talking to some people I was honest about that on the date He implied that I was the only person he was talking to But you wouldn't have cared if he said I see that why did you say that Anthony Well you're the only person that I've met on the app that I
Starting point is 00:18:41 actually like and respect. Oh. See? You don't respect. You don't respect the other women you're talking about. What? Not good? That came out wrong, baby.
Starting point is 00:18:54 But you're the only one I've really found interested. And I haven't met anybody like you, whether it was on the app or not. Well, I have your profile pulled up right now, and it looks like that you're trying to set up something with somebody named Clarissa. Oh. That's creepy. But he doesn't respect her. Lisa, you sound a little bit jealous of that, even.
Starting point is 00:19:19 I don't know about jealous, but look, I would have been totally fine if he had said, yeah, I'm talking to other people too. I get it. It's not a big deal. I'm blocking Clarissa right now. Hey, you can't lie about it, she'll see. It just sounds like you need to be truthful about everything. And there's another app.
Starting point is 00:19:35 Yeah, bro, definitely. Something has happened in here for sure. And it feels good. It does feel good, and I'd like to offer to send you guys out on another date that we will pay for. Once again, can I just reiterate that I'm serious. You are the only one I've taken serious that I've met on there, and I'm really hoping that you're going to say yes. That's cute. That's very sweet, Anthony.
Starting point is 00:19:56 I appreciate that. Yeah, I mean, I'm a yes. I would say yes. Yay! Start over. Fresh slate, start from the beginning. Now that everything's on the table, we start over. Okay.
Starting point is 00:20:07 And we also have 14 other guys who want to know if you'll go out with them to get from the day. Matt, what would you like to say to them? Well, I mean, if I'm being honest, I am still talking to other guys. 14's on the low side for me. Oh, okay. But how many of those guys do you respect? All right. Well, more research with the second day on our bill.
Starting point is 00:20:26 We're going to pay for it, okay? Sounds good. Before you go, can you force matches? Because there's a couple of girls that aren't responding to me that I'm wondering if you can help me out a little bit on the your end. That's creepy. That's a hard no. Brooke and Jeffrey in the. morning. In 1920, a magazine article announced something incredible. Two young girls had photographed
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Starting point is 00:22:57 It can be small little white lies or big giant ones, but people do it all the time, whether it's to make themselves look better or for whatever reason. And we don't all have the access to fact check them like she did. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, and it's not so much. If you lie, it's what you lie about. That's really important. She lied about what her job was out of boredom from all the dates that she goes on.
Starting point is 00:23:19 He lied saying that she was the only girl that he was talking to on the dating app, and she found out that was untrue. Why would he even offer it up? I don't know. You know, like just don't offer it. It sounds like one of those nice lies that you tell someone that they're the only one that you like. Or it's like, I never do this when you know that that person always does it. You're really good at it.
Starting point is 00:23:42 I do feel like society has really progressed because they were both totally okay with each other's lies in the end. Well, they can't put each other out. That's how lies work. Yes, two lies make a right. Yes. No matter what, no lie, you can always email the show for help. We're willing to call that person who wasn't calling you back.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. When you need some quality life advice, who do you turn to? Your friends? Yeah. Your parents. Sometimes, yeah. Local morning radio show. Oh, I hope so.
Starting point is 00:24:14 We're flattered. I don't know if that's a good idea. One of our listeners says he got some unsolicited life advice from a bartender one night, which wasn't really sure about when he actually tried it, not only did this advice instantly triple his income. It also may have helped him meet the love of his life. Oh, my gosh. You're going to hear what a total stranger convinced him to do to change his fortune.
Starting point is 00:24:38 and your second date update next. Second date update. This is going to be extremely helpful for our listeners because not only are we going to hear a new second date update, but this is a situation with a potential new job opportunity where our listeners can leave their sucky workplaces and start making triple their normal salary. Triple?
Starting point is 00:25:03 Is this streaming too? Because I already discovered that. Are you making triple yet? Oh, I'm making a lot of money. It's not playing video games with kids online. No. Our listener says he did this and ended up actually meeting someone that way. His name is Zach.
Starting point is 00:25:17 And Zach, your email said your life has changed dramatically in the last 12 months. Why? Big time. I met this girl due to my new job because I went from... I like how your voice gets deep when you say it. Sorry. Sounds like you. Yeah, what's your new job?
Starting point is 00:25:35 Well, the old job sucked. I was only making like 40. there who was dead end wasn't going to get any better i hated it so uh anyway the company i worked for had an event for all the employees okay and i went to it and uh they had an open bar there okay and you're talking about the sucky company that wasn't paying you anything yeah i know it sounds good right now with an open bar but yeah it gets pretty bad yeah yeah like wait a minute go pay open bar equals out yeah this is like i'll take payment in white claw
Starting point is 00:26:05 I ended up tossing back a few And during that I bonded and became friends With the guy that was bartending All right And I was telling him about The job I was doing And my situation
Starting point is 00:26:19 And how bad it was And he tells me he goes Man you should just quit And start what I'm doing And what he was doing He was a mobile bartender Oh Oh my God
Starting point is 00:26:30 I have a buddy Who just started a company like this Wait isn't that just like catering Like I don't What's the difference? It's kind of more like a food truck that serves drinks. Oh, you can get weddings where people have little stands that come? Yeah, so he tells me that I could triple my old income.
Starting point is 00:26:49 And so he starts filling me in. He goes, you only work a few hours a day. You can make your own schedule. Okay. It sounds too good to be true. Do you have experience bartending? I don't, not really. I do now.
Starting point is 00:27:04 Oh, now you do. And that's what you're doing now? Yeah, that's exactly what I'm doing. Wow. How's it going? It's going really good. I mean, you get hired to do this stuff and you go to a lot of different places. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:17 Are you just calling for a second date because you want to promote your company? No, no, no, no, no, no. It would be genius. So this is how you met the woman that we're going to call here? Yeah, yeah. Her name is Bethany. And I got hired to do a backyard party that was. was a bachelor-class bachelorette party.
Starting point is 00:27:39 I guess they just wanted to do it all together. So they did it all together. Brooke did the same thing because she's cheap like that. So they mixed them into one of the day. No, it's fun. Like, all the wedding party gets to know each other, like, the girls know the guys, and it makes it more, like, fun at the wedding, too. You can choose another guy you want to leave to go if you want to.
Starting point is 00:27:57 I get it. So how did you meet Bethany there? So she ends up being a guest at that party. Okay. And the more she came up, which was only a few times, but we started having good conversations, started talking. She was super fun. She was real bubbly and outgoing. That's cool.
Starting point is 00:28:13 Do you love that? Yeah. By her seventh margarita, I would expect her to be fun. I mean, you probably meet so many different people now, like, but she really stood out to you. Yeah, she did. And, you know, she's in great shape. She tells me that she's a cycling instructor. Oh.
Starting point is 00:28:30 Oh. Okay. Yeah. Tight buns. Okay But while we were talking She had asked me what I do I told her
Starting point is 00:28:38 Well, you're looking at it This is it This is my business now Cool Is she impressed I don't know I don't know It seemed like she was okay with it
Starting point is 00:28:49 But she goes Oh okay yeah Well I will say There's a stigma That comes along With bartender So there is Too much fun
Starting point is 00:28:56 Too much fun I think it's more like Too much fun without you Yeah It's the problem Okay And when they are free It's terrible time
Starting point is 00:29:02 Yeah. And now he's also the bartending business owner? Yeah. It's a little extra. Hey, Monday at noon, do you want to go on a day? Yeah. Because that's the only time I have available. Right.
Starting point is 00:29:12 And I guess bartenders are normally struggling for money, so maybe she thought that I was a different tax break. I don't think that's... That's actually not part of the stigma. Yeah, no. What you do in your free time socially. That's it. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:29:28 Or work hours. But it sounds like you and a freezer. It sounds like you and. Bethany had a stronger connection than that. Yeah, and she gave me her number. Okay. And she came up a few more times. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:40 But I've been trying to get a hold of her, been trying to text her, and she's kind of ghosting me. I had her anything back at all. So you guys haven't gone out on a date yet? We have not gone out on a date. Oh, dang. I mean, looking back on the event that you work, was there any awkward moments between you two? The only one I can think of, which isn't all that bad. She's, you know, naturally, as she started coming up to the bar, she was getting a little chipsy towards the end of the night.
Starting point is 00:30:09 Right. Hopefully, she wasn't embarrassed by me actually suggestion that she pulled her dress up a little bit because, well, things were starting to fall out of the top. Oh, the top. Oh, I was like, brother. That is a talk about. We don't condone that. He's trying to help her out. You should tell her a story different next time.
Starting point is 00:30:32 Yeah, I wasn't telling her to lift their shirt or anything. Yeah. I was like, let's hang up on this guy. Because Alexis has done that five different times, and it's never worked out well. My skirt's above my neck. I don't get it. All right. So you said you've been in contact with her, but nothing is come of it.
Starting point is 00:30:51 Nothing. And do you promise us that you didn't ask for anyone else's number at that party? Oh, because she could have seen it? Well, they're all friends. Not only did I not ask for anyone else. his number that day. I've been doing this for over a year and have never asked anybody for that number. We've met the one upstanding bartender in the entire world. It's because he's doesn't done it for a year. He's a rookie. Yeah. Given another year, you'll be a different man. But in the
Starting point is 00:31:19 meantime, we'll be selling drugs out of the truck. Let's call Bethany for you. We're going to come back and try and get you your second date update right after this. Second date update. The T-Pain once said, I love the bar. bartender. Yeah. Ooh, we'd be looking for me, but our bartender is not getting any love. Oh, man. That's what he does for a living.
Starting point is 00:31:41 He left his old job a year ago and started a mobile business serving drinks at different events where he ended up meeting a lady named Bethany at a backyard joint bachelor bachelorette party. Oh, my God. And it's the only woman in an entire year that he's ever asked for her number. That's the type of impact that she had on him. They opened up to each other there. shared about their lives and their interests.
Starting point is 00:32:05 Even after she gave him her number, though, she is not responding to him, and they haven't done an official first date. She's the opposite of T-Paint. She's not in love with the bartending. Yeah, but we want her to get there. So, I mean, honestly, Zach, you're lucky that you're on the phone right now because if you were in studio,
Starting point is 00:32:23 Brooke would be filling up your tip jar with so much cash. That's right. And other things. I like a big pore. She can't just buy her own drink That's not a euphemism or anything I just like a lot of alcohol in my cup It is a euphemism
Starting point is 00:32:40 You know it's true Brooke is a problem at every event That she goes to in a good way But she's actually going to be on your side today I am I am You know you said that the only like Maybe kind of embarrassing moment Was at the end when you told her to pull her top up
Starting point is 00:32:55 Because she was kind of losing things Right I don't know I mean as a drunk woman The tops are always fallen But did he say, top or dress? You know, there's a different, like... Hope was she understood.
Starting point is 00:33:06 Yeah, that's what I'm trying to say. Yeah. I see, I see. Well, maybe she was pulling it down for you. That's a Brooke move. That is definitely, classic Brooke. And then that'd be like, uh, hello, I showed up with Cleavis. She'll be to put it away.
Starting point is 00:33:20 Excuse me, sir, the left one's out for a reason. How's twice if he resisted. Anyway. I mean, we can speculate all we want. We actually have to call Bethany here and figure out what's going on. Let's do it. I'm going to call her. Sorry, I'm just imagining just having one boob out. It's really funny to me.
Starting point is 00:33:39 Here we go. We're calling Bethany. Hi, Bethany. Hey, Bethany. Sorry to interrupt your day, but we're a radio show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Okay. Hi. Welcome to the show. Hi.
Starting point is 00:34:08 We want you to be a part of this segment we're doing called a second date update because we're trying to help out one of our listeners get in touch with you. Yeah, you guys never really went on a date. Yeah. But you made a connection. Okay. Yeah. You don't have to be nervous.
Starting point is 00:34:24 We don't bite. Sorry. You sound like you just got cornered. No one's got a lot of voices. Yeah. We just want to ask you about a guy that you met recently at, like, a Bachelor, Bachelorette event. He was the bartender there named Zach. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:43 What did you think of Zach? You know, I thought it was really nice at first. At first. But then he was really sexy, secondly. You had too sexy, I couldn't. Okay. No. Something changed?
Starting point is 00:34:59 Yeah. He kept going, like, on and on and on about how he like put his job and now he has this business and been doing so well and there's so much more money yeah we spoke to him a little bit before and he we heard that he's very proud of his new business because he started it all himself and that's great that's great to be proud right but he also didn't seem to want to know anything about what I was doing oh no that's not good yeah that's too bad that's too bad It was very uncomfortable.
Starting point is 00:35:34 And then, at one point, like, things got busy, you know? Like, a lot of people were drinking, and he had, like, ran out of Diet Coke. And so I helped him, and I went and grabbed some of the Diet Coke for him. So I was like, oh, I could do that. That's not a problem. Okay. So you were maybe still a little flirty with him at that point. It was just, yeah, he was alone.
Starting point is 00:35:53 And, like, I've worked different service industry jobs. And so I know how it gets. And so, like, yeah, let me just help you out. Like, it's a nice thing to do. Okay. That's cool. Yeah, that's awesome. I thought so, too, but he'd already had my number at that point.
Starting point is 00:36:06 He must have really appreciated me grabbing those Diet Cokes because he Venmoed me $20. What? What do you mean he Venmoed you $20? He paid you? For what? What did he put in the comments of the Venmo? That's a good question. He put, here's a tip for the bartender.
Starting point is 00:36:25 Weird. And I'm like, I was just being nice. I just felt really weird and kind of like, you know, like when like creepy old men and you like do something nice and then they like slip you like you know Alexis she's talking to you here creepy old men I can be uncomfortable sometimes yeah you're saying creepy old men started as creepy young men yeah yeah and I'm just like is this the modern version of like an old man slipping you some cash yeah yeah hey sweetheart well I mean yeah maybe slipping slipping money could be a little bit creepy but this is going to be worse
Starting point is 00:36:59 There's nothing creepy about somebody quietly listening in on a phone conversation wanting to join, right? Sorry about that. This is our company. Because Zach is on the other line wanting to talk to you. Hello there. Are you serious? Yeah, that's Zach. Hey, I apologize.
Starting point is 00:37:15 I didn't mean to offend you with the tip there. I just didn't know what to do there. And just I thought, well, you know, let me, you help me out. You're a normal person. You go a tip that way. Okay, okay. Listen to her, Zach now. Remember, that was part of the problem.
Starting point is 00:37:30 Go ahead, Bethany. Tell them how you were feeling. You know, like, it just felt like you were. Yeah, I know how you felt. I heard the conversation. I get it. Well, it might be worth hearing her out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:45 I just appreciate the fact that you had to say. I'm sorry, it went weird. Yeah. So. This is going really well. I know that you're a bartender, and a good lesson for bartenders is to listen to the customers because they'll actually stick around longer and pay more. I think a good lesson to just
Starting point is 00:38:03 people, right? Like, did you ask her one question that you can remember? No, I guess not. Oh, bro. You're not even going to try. Hey, at least he has a good memory. He knows he doesn't ask. Would you like to ask her anything about herself? Yeah. I know what you normally drink. Is there a second favorite that you have?
Starting point is 00:38:22 Oh, that's something. Is it something, Jeff? At least it's a question about her? No. I didn't think sending her $20 would be that big a deal. I figured she told me she was a cycling instructor. I didn't think she was getting rich on that. Oh, wait. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:38:41 It's probably true, though, let's be honest. It depends on the studio. You can actually make pretty good money. Yeah. Just like any business. Zach, maybe you should leave your bartending job and get into cycling if there's that much money in it. I saw a thing recently where they put a blender on the
Starting point is 00:38:59 front of a bike, and you could do both where you have to make your own margarita by pedaling really fast. Oh, and when you're done, you can drink it. Yeah. That's so smart. That could be your niche. I actually don't know how to ride a bike. Oh. Wait, what? It was stationary. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:14 It's not a two wheeler. He still falls off. Jack, man. I bet that was a lot to hear. That was a lot to hear. Yeah. It sounds like he means well, but it's not coming out. No. Maybe Zach has learned some lessons in the last few minutes. Zach, what have you learned from
Starting point is 00:39:31 this call? I learned that she never answered her question about her second favorite drink. Okay. Okay. You're not going to fix this guy. Well, we always offer this because we kind of have to. But, Bethany, we would love to send
Starting point is 00:39:45 you out on another, on a first date, actually, with Zach. Does he have to be there? Yeah, Zach does have to be there. And the good news is nobody has to pay through Venmo or anything. We're going to cover the bill. Yeah. I'm up for anything.
Starting point is 00:39:59 really as long as we don't ride bikes anywhere. Okay. You're serious about that. What if that be ironic a cycling instructor dating a guy who couldn't ride a bike? Bethany? Do you want to give him a shot? You know, I think I should just stick to my gut from our first interaction. Okay.
Starting point is 00:40:18 But I appreciate the offer. That's a no. Oh, man. All right. Well, you got your answer, Zach. Yeah, but if you tip us $40, we'll ask her again. that's okay i mean i can see what's going on i can read between the lines and see what's happening i feel like i was very straightforward i think all the lines had all the writing on him i thought you'd be
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Starting point is 00:42:59 That's true. Even though he kind of embarrassed himself on the radio, he's meeting so many hotties at these bartending events now. He is going to be just fine in the dating world. I don't know if he can stop talking about himself. Yeah. I mean, honestly, like it sounds like so simple and it's so hard for some people. There's a line.
Starting point is 00:43:18 If you're excited about your new success, you can only tell your, old friends that knew you when you were broke. If you tell new people, hey, I'm rich and I have a company, isn't that cool? They're going to be like, no, you're sure. But next week, we're probably going to get an email from him saying he just met another woman, but this one's his soulmate because she can't ride a bike either. Oh, yeah. I mean, it would be cute to see him on training wheels.
Starting point is 00:43:39 I'm not joking. I would love that. Dual bicycle with training wheels. Tandoms. Zach, we're all rooting for you out there. Yeah, buddy. But make sure you listen to Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. you find your podcast, you can hear more second dates just like that one.
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