Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - Second Date Update Classics: High Flyer Liar + The Bartender and the Biker
Episode Date: August 16, 2025Part 1 The woman in today’s Second Date Update has such a COOL job, it stopped us all in our tracks. We wanted to know every single detail, and you will too coming up in the podcast! Part 2 One ...of our listeners says he got unsolicited life advice from a bartender and it actually might have helped him find the love of his life! We’ll hear his story in your Second Date Update.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hey, it's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning, and you get double the dose on Saturday.
We got two classics back to back, which is always...
We are not doctors, but definitely listen to tune and call us on Monday.
That's true.
Hey, just an aside, if anybody is a huge Swifty out there, Alexis put together,
We're a really fun game.
We do a podcast exclusive over on our other feed,
just the Brooke and Jeffrey main feed,
where we play a game called Today versus Back in the Day,
and it's all Taylor themed because of life of a showgirl
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So if you guys want to have some fun,
get some good Taylor trivia and a little bit of nonsense,
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But right now, we're going to start with comments
before we get into this double second date.
Joel, the cool guy.
Not me saying his cool, him saying of himself,
but I also do he is.
I appreciate that, John.
Said always listen to you guys while drawing or biking to work.
Keep it up.
I love listening.
Greetings from the Netherlands.
Oh, that's so cool.
Yeah.
We're everyone bikes.
Yeah, basically.
It's so cool.
And I want to know what you're drawing.
Are you drawing us?
Do we look good?
Oh.
You want to be a model?
Kind of.
Okay, there it is.
Alexis just volunteered.
All right, your double dose of second date classics starts right now.
Maybe it's just me, but I feel like whenever I'm out in the world, it's a huge conversation,
The moment I tell someone, I actually host a radio show.
Yeah.
You guys get that, too?
Yeah, people are always really interested in what that looks like.
It's a cool job.
Everyone to me is like, whoa, really?
You don't seem good at talking in real life.
Your coworkers say that too.
Well, that all might be true.
I'm just saying our jobs are definite attention grabbers when we bring them up.
But it's nothing compared to the woman that we call today.
Because when we found out what she does for a living, everyone in the room
stopped and wanted to know every single detail.
You're going to understand why when you hear it in your second date update right after this.
Second date update.
Occasionally, we check back in with callers months after they come on the show to see how their
relationship is going.
I love when we do that.
We call it a second date update update.
Yeah.
But today we're doing something kind of new.
We have a second date, update, update, update.
Okay, wait a minute.
That's right.
A triple update.
I feel like now we're getting clingy.
You know what I mean?
Can't we just let people live their lives at some point, Jeff?
It's like second and update square?
No, we want to be as deeply involved in our listeners' lives as possible.
We even live with them.
We're doing a trup date today.
Yeah.
I've been involved in a few of those.
Different meaning, though.
But seriously, one of our listeners, Anthony, reached out to us again.
So first of all, Anthony, welcome back to the show.
Hey guys, thanks for having me
I'm having a hard time placing
what Anthony, what you were on before.
So last time Anthony was on,
you were dating a woman named Mallory
and you guys were saying that you were happy together
but she was having you pay for a lot of
her and her friend's activities.
Oh, I kind of remember this
and we're like, oh, she's using you
and then you're like, no, she's hot.
You're like, I don't mind. Is that, am I remembering right?
That's pretty close.
Okay.
Okay. So now...
Good recap. No Mallory. It's just you today,
Anthony, what's going on?
So with Mallory, I ran out of money.
Oh.
Wait, you're broke?
What?
Just go get a bank loan, man.
Did she?
Wait, did she leave you?
Well, yeah, she basically dropped me after I stopped paying for everything for her and her friends.
Alexis, good, right?
I mean, I see where she's coming from.
Alexis's like, you go, girl.
That sucks, man.
But it sounds like you're better off.
without that.
Which I think we told you so.
Yeah, I think so.
Okay.
So is that it?
Well, I mean, I'm guessing you went on at a date with another person that you're interested in.
Yes, that has been happening.
Oh, okay.
Who's the new girl?
I found a new woman named Lisa.
Okay.
All right.
And what do you like about her?
Well, the first thing that.
stands out to me about her I find fascinating is that she does private security detail for
celebrity.
Whoa.
Wow.
That's such an interesting job.
Brooke, one of your employees.
Yeah.
This is amazing.
Dude, let's get her on the phone.
Was that, was that like right there on her dating profile?
No, that's just something that came out after, but she won't tell me who these clients are,
and that's what I'm always trying to get out of her.
Okay.
That's just good at her job, at least.
Yeah.
The privacy.
Okay.
So have you guys been on one date, two dates?
Where are you at?
We just got out once.
Okay.
I mean, how did it go?
It went pretty well.
I mean, another thing that I thought was pretty funny is one thing I did see on her profile is there's like an ad that comes up on people's profiles that says today's high flyer of the week.
Like when they're getting a lot of action, I guess, on their app or something.
High flyer, that's what they call it.
Oh, that's funny.
Is that a good thing for you or a red flag?
Jury's out on that.
But, I mean, I was calling her the high flyer as a joke.
Is that something that she puts on her profile or is it something that the app does automatically?
Sorry, I'm an idiot when it comes to apps.
Yeah, I think the app does it if you're really popular on the app.
That's another interesting talking point, though, to bring up on the date.
Like, how did it go?
I was good.
At first, I couldn't tell if she was, like, going to be a real person or not, but she was exactly how she described herself.
So she's real pretty, is what you're saying.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, she's pretty casual.
She showed up in Gucci sweats and a two-paw hoodie.
Okay.
She doesn't have a sense of style.
She didn't do a matching set?
I think it's kind of cute.
No, but I thought it was pretty cool.
And we did have fun.
She talks a lot about this charity work she does.
So she's really big on giving back to the community.
And I was able to relate because I was just been involved with the charity.
with my ex-girlfriend and her friends.
Ooh, I hope you didn't say that.
Yeah, is that how you brought it up?
No, no, I made that joke, and then they'll go into further detail about it with their books.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay. So, you kind of ended up being in the chair.
We didn't even ask, what were you guys doing?
Were you drinking, eating?
What was the date about?
Yeah, we got a couple drinks.
We went to a happy hour.
Okay.
So it's chill.
So that's why she could wear the sweatshirt and the sweatpants.
Happy hour, I see you budgeting now.
Okay.
That was their idea.
I think she wanted to meet me in the daylight.
Did you feel like you had a good connection with her, though?
I did, but, yeah, I could definitely tell why she is the high flyer because her phone keeps buzzing the whole time we're together.
And I have a suspicion that she's definitely talking to more guys than just me.
Yeah.
Probably.
I mean, Jose, if you were out on a date with someone who was a high flyer, is that a red flag to you?
No, I would just be happy to.
I'm on a date.
You're buying a ticket onto that point.
Maybe she wants to step off the fast plane, move on to the slow plane with him.
Oh, and I'm definitely on the slow player.
Overall, though, how do you think the first date went?
Good, Ben.
I think it went good.
Okay.
I was hoping that we're going to go on another date, but her responses are a little spotty.
I don't know, and I don't know if you did this or not, but did you ever point out,
Hey, your phone is buzzing a lot.
Are you getting a lot of dudes trying to hit you up right now?
Oh, like, come across as weirdly jealous?
No, I didn't think that would be a good style on my part.
Yeah, so that's causing it.
I played it cool.
I played it cool.
It was just slightly eating me up inside.
All right.
Okay.
You seem to have answers.
Let's find out what Lisa has to say for herself.
We're going to call the high flyer directly.
Maybe she charted it as well.
Oh, I hope she answers.
We'll read off what's on her chart when we do your second date update right after this.
Second Date Update.
Imagine being out with someone you're very interested in
in finding out that they do security detail for the rich and famous.
Cool.
But they won't tell you who.
Not only that, they're a verified high flyer on the dating app where you met them.
Which means that they get a lot of action.
Yeah, they're like on the front page.
Yeah, or someone just paid to feature them or something like that.
Yeah, that's what I'm assuming.
And they wear Gucci sweats with Tupac hoodie.
to first dates like it's no big deal.
Yeah. I mean, they're cool.
For me, personally, this is a very interesting second date call.
Because like Jose said before, I really hope that she actually answers us,
because we don't get to talk to people like this very often.
Because we cannot be the one that also, like, prize into who the celebrities are she works for.
I know, but we all hard.
We could just ask once.
I know. He already did that on the date. She didn't want to answer.
What if she's, like, standing next to Kim Kardashian right now?
It's like, I can't talk.
I mean, we do want a lot of answers.
from her, but the main thing we want to know is why
she's not going out with Anthony. That's true.
Because this is a very unique type of woman.
And Anthony, best part is she hasn't made you
pay for anything yet either. But you are willing
to, yes? Wait. Oh, yeah.
Wait, you paid for the date, though,
right, Anthony? You paid for happy hour?
Yeah, I paid for the date
at the bar, but it wasn't like
with Mallory, I wasn't paying for her parking
and, you know. The last
girl that you were on the show with.
Okay. Exactly. But you'll pay for her parking
on the second date, at least. Let's call
and try and figure out where that's going to be
and if she'll go out with you.
Here we go.
Hello.
Hey, is this Lisa?
Yes, it is.
Hey, Lisa, what's up?
You're on the radio right now
with Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Welcome to the show, Lisa.
Oh, hi, I guess.
Hi, can you protect us?
Like on the phone.
If you haven't heard us before, we're low-key-boosy.
Are we?
The lowest key.
I feel like Jeff just learned those words.
He's wearing a free show shirt that he's got.
Yeah, he is.
Okay.
What is this all about?
I don't get it.
Well, we're one of those weird shows that helps listeners with their dating lives.
When they go out with someone and they're not getting a return call back,
we reach out and try and help figure out the reason why.
Okay
I know pretty pathetic on our part
But people get paid to do it
Thanks Jeff
I kind of like this segment
But what I like it too
My parents are really ashamed of it
But that's not
It's not about us
We're trying to ask about you
And your relationship
With a guy named Anthony
Oh
Okay
You guys went to happy hour
Yeah we did
Okay
Pretty great guy huh
I mean
Yeah he's a nice guy
Good looking
What was your, like, thoughts on the date?
I mean, it was really chill.
We just had a couple drinks at happy hour, and it was just a date.
Oh, okay, nothing to write home about.
Okay.
I mean, was there any, like, big red flags to you for why you're not going out with him again?
Because he said he's been trying to organize a second meetup, and it's not quite happening.
I mean, no, there weren't any red flags when we were sitting there talking.
I mean, he was very interesting.
He was interested in me.
Asked me a lot of questions.
Okay.
Can I offer something up that he told us?
Sure.
He said he was worried he may have offended you by prying too much into your job
because he found out you help organize security for big-time celebrities.
Oh, my gosh.
Yeah.
I just made that up to sound interesting.
Wait.
What?
What do you mean he made it up?
Oh, man, I was interested even.
We were prepared with all these questions to try and get you to reveal who you do security for.
And usually when somebody lies on a date, there's like shame and stuff, you're laughing.
Is it like a joke to you?
Well, I couldn't tell him what my real job is.
Why?
Can you tell us your real job?
I guess at this point if I'm not going to see him again, share, I'll tell you what my real job is.
What do you do?
So I am actually part owner.
of the dating site.
Wait, what?
Whoa, wait a minute.
The one where you met, Anthony?
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
Some friends had the idea, and we were just talking about stuff, and it's just an idea.
Well, they moved forward, and they asked if I wanted to be an early investor, and so I was like, sure, let's do it, and it just kind of blew up.
So when it says, when it says high flyer on your dating app, that just means, like, CEO or something?
Or you get free modeling, pretty much.
I mean, we were looking for trying to, like, do a feature, like, on the app.
And I just said, I'll do it.
I'm single.
I don't care about the attention, whatever.
Wow.
Market research.
Apparently, it makes an impact.
Yeah.
I guess so.
Okay.
So wait, hold on.
So wait, why did you just tell them that you were the app owner?
Well, to be honest, I go on a lot of dates.
And, I mean, essentially, I would tell people what to be a lot of.
is, but also, it would be a little creepy, I would think, in the beginning.
Right.
Yeah.
We're trying to help him figure out what's the reason that you're not going out again.
Yeah.
That's what he's confused about.
Okay, okay.
Is it so many men?
Just so many men you can't choose one?
No, no, that is not the reason.
So, as an admin, I can tell that he's been messaging other women.
And when we were on a date and talking, he told me in conversation that it was just him
and I talking.
Oh, you can like, oh.
That feels like invasion of privacy.
Listen, when you check off on the agreement, I mean, it says any co-founder or manager can monitor your account and your activity.
So I am well within my right to do that.
That's crazy.
And it just proves that men are pigs.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh, I think it's weirder that he's, yeah, what?
Anthony, what do you think about hearing all that?
Wow.
Hi, Lisa.
Yeah, because, oh, yeah, I forgot to tell you, Lisa, it's down way, way deep in our agreement when you come on the phone that he's secretly on middle of the line listening.
Okay.
I've never gotten.
Okay.
Oh, wow. You're super chill.
I'm a little shocked, but I totally understand, like, that you couldn't, that, why you had to put that in your profile.
Anthony, this feels like the last time you were on the show.
Like, you just agree with women no matter what they do to you.
Like, this woman's been lying.
She, like, invaded your privacy
and you're just chill still.
Stand up for yourself, brother.
So wait a second.
You could actually go into my app
and see all the messages,
like everything that I've ever written on there?
Yes, I can.
Oh.
I know Anthony's thinking of like three things he said.
Hope you keep a PG on there, buddy.
That's how you know she cares.
You can't see pictures, right?
Oh, yes, I can.
Hopefully you can zoom in on it.
I don't know if you'll have to zoom in
Hey out of boy Anthony
Why do I doubt that
Anthony? Let's go down a bad path
Lisa does that mean that you weren't
talking to anybody else either because
I mean yeah I'm talking to some people
I was honest about that on the date
He implied that I was the only person he was talking to
But you wouldn't have cared if he said
I see that why did you say that Anthony
Well you're the only person that I've met on the app that I
actually like and respect.
Oh.
See?
You don't respect.
You don't respect the other women you're talking about.
What?
Not good?
That came out wrong, baby.
But you're the only one I've really found interested.
And I haven't met anybody like you, whether it was on the app or not.
Well, I have your profile pulled up right now, and it looks like that you're trying to
set up something with somebody named Clarissa.
Oh.
That's creepy.
But he doesn't respect her.
Lisa, you sound a little bit jealous of that, even.
I don't know about jealous, but look, I would have been totally fine if he had said,
yeah, I'm talking to other people too.
I get it.
It's not a big deal.
I'm blocking Clarissa right now.
Hey, you can't lie about it, she'll see.
It just sounds like you need to be truthful about everything.
And there's another app.
Yeah, bro, definitely.
Something has happened in here for sure.
And it feels good.
It does feel good, and I'd like to offer to send you guys out on another date that we will pay for.
Once again, can I just reiterate that I'm serious.
You are the only one I've taken serious that I've met on there, and I'm really hoping that you're going to say yes.
That's cute.
That's very sweet, Anthony.
I appreciate that.
Yeah, I mean, I'm a yes.
I would say yes.
Yay!
Start over.
Fresh slate, start from the beginning.
Now that everything's on the table, we start over.
Okay.
And we also have 14 other guys who want to know if you'll go out with them to get from the day.
Matt, what would you like to say to them?
Well, I mean, if I'm being honest, I am still talking to other guys.
14's on the low side for me.
Oh, okay.
But how many of those guys do you respect?
All right.
Well, more research with the second day on our bill.
We're going to pay for it, okay?
Sounds good.
Before you go, can you force matches?
Because there's a couple of girls that aren't responding to me that I'm wondering if you can help me out a little bit on the your end.
That's creepy.
That's a hard no.
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You know, the thing that I'm coming to terms with is we just have to get it through our heads that people lie on dates.
Yes.
It can be small little white lies or big giant ones, but people do it all the time, whether it's to make themselves look better or for whatever reason.
And we don't all have the access to fact check them like she did.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, and it's not so much.
If you lie, it's what you lie about.
That's really important.
She lied about what her job was out of boredom from all the dates that she goes on.
He lied saying that she was the only girl that he was talking to on the dating app,
and she found out that was untrue.
Why would he even offer it up?
I don't know.
You know, like just don't offer it.
It sounds like one of those nice lies that you tell someone that they're the only one that you like.
Or it's like, I never do this when you know that that person always does it.
You're really good at it.
I do feel like society has really progressed
because they were both totally okay with each other's lies in the end.
Well, they can't put each other out.
That's how lies work.
Yes, two lies make a right.
Yes.
No matter what, no lie, you can always email the show for help.
We're willing to call that person who wasn't calling you back.
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
When you need some quality life advice, who do you turn to?
Your friends?
Yeah.
Your parents.
Sometimes, yeah.
Local morning radio show.
Oh, I hope so.
We're flattered.
I don't know if that's a good idea.
One of our listeners says he got some unsolicited life advice from a bartender one night,
which wasn't really sure about when he actually tried it,
not only did this advice instantly triple his income.
It also may have helped him meet the love of his life.
Oh, my gosh.
You're going to hear what a total stranger convinced him to do to change his fortune.
and your second date update next.
Second date update.
This is going to be extremely helpful for our listeners
because not only are we going to hear a new second date update,
but this is a situation with a potential new job opportunity
where our listeners can leave their sucky workplaces
and start making triple their normal salary.
Triple?
Is this streaming too?
Because I already discovered that.
Are you making triple yet?
Oh, I'm making a lot of money.
It's not playing video games with kids online.
No.
Our listener says he did this and ended up actually meeting someone that way.
His name is Zach.
And Zach, your email said your life has changed dramatically in the last 12 months.
Why?
Big time.
I met this girl due to my new job because I went from...
I like how your voice gets deep when you say it.
Sorry.
Sounds like you.
Yeah, what's your new job?
Well, the old job sucked.
I was only making like 40.
there who was dead end wasn't going to get any better i hated it
so uh anyway the company i worked for had an event
for all the employees okay and i went to it and uh they had an open bar there okay and you're
talking about the sucky company that wasn't paying you anything yeah i know it sounds good
right now with an open bar but yeah it gets pretty bad yeah yeah like wait a minute
go pay open bar equals out yeah this is like i'll take payment in white claw
I ended up tossing back a few
And during that
I bonded and became friends
With the guy that was bartending
All right
And I was telling him about
The job I was doing
And my situation
And how bad it was
And he tells me he goes
Man you should just quit
And start what I'm doing
And what he was doing
He was a mobile bartender
Oh
Oh my God
I have a buddy
Who just started a company like this
Wait isn't that just like catering
Like I don't
What's the difference?
It's kind of more like a food truck that serves drinks.
Oh, you can get weddings where people have little stands that come?
Yeah, so he tells me that I could triple my old income.
And so he starts filling me in.
He goes, you only work a few hours a day.
You can make your own schedule.
Okay.
It sounds too good to be true.
Do you have experience bartending?
I don't, not really.
I do now.
Oh, now you do.
And that's what you're doing now?
Yeah, that's exactly what I'm doing.
Wow.
How's it going?
It's going really good.
I mean, you get hired to do this stuff and you go to a lot of different places.
Okay.
Are you just calling for a second date because you want to promote your company?
No, no, no, no, no, no.
It would be genius.
So this is how you met the woman that we're going to call here?
Yeah, yeah.
Her name is Bethany.
And I got hired to do a backyard party that was.
was a bachelor-class bachelorette party.
I guess they just wanted to do it all together.
So they did it all together.
Brooke did the same thing because she's cheap like that.
So they mixed them into one of the day.
No, it's fun.
Like, all the wedding party gets to know each other, like, the girls know the guys,
and it makes it more, like, fun at the wedding, too.
You can choose another guy you want to leave to go if you want to.
I get it.
So how did you meet Bethany there?
So she ends up being a guest at that party.
Okay.
And the more she came up, which was only a few times, but we started having good conversations, started talking.
She was super fun.
She was real bubbly and outgoing.
That's cool.
Do you love that?
Yeah.
By her seventh margarita, I would expect her to be fun.
I mean, you probably meet so many different people now, like, but she really stood out to you.
Yeah, she did.
And, you know, she's in great shape.
She tells me that she's a cycling instructor.
Oh.
Oh.
Okay.
Yeah.
Tight buns.
Okay
But while we were talking
She had asked me what I do
I told her
Well, you're looking at it
This is it
This is my business now
Cool
Is she impressed
I don't know
I don't know
It seemed like she was okay with it
But she goes
Oh okay yeah
Well I will say
There's a stigma
That comes along
With bartender
So there is
Too much fun
Too much fun
I think it's more like
Too much fun without you
Yeah
It's the problem
Okay
And when they are free
It's terrible time
Yeah.
And now he's also the bartending business owner?
Yeah.
It's a little extra.
Hey, Monday at noon, do you want to go on a day?
Yeah.
Because that's the only time I have available.
Right.
And I guess bartenders are normally struggling for money,
so maybe she thought that I was a different tax break.
I don't think that's...
That's actually not part of the stigma.
Yeah, no.
What you do in your free time socially.
That's it.
Exactly.
Or work hours.
But it sounds like you and a freezer.
It sounds like you and.
Bethany had a stronger connection than that.
Yeah, and she gave me her number.
Okay.
And she came up a few more times.
Okay.
But I've been trying to get a hold of her, been trying to text her, and she's kind of ghosting me.
I had her anything back at all.
So you guys haven't gone out on a date yet?
We have not gone out on a date.
Oh, dang.
I mean, looking back on the event that you work, was there any awkward moments between you two?
The only one I can think of, which isn't all that bad.
She's, you know, naturally, as she started coming up to the bar, she was getting a little chipsy towards the end of the night.
Right.
Hopefully, she wasn't embarrassed by me actually suggestion that she pulled her dress up a little bit because, well, things were starting to fall out of the top.
Oh, the top.
Oh, I was like, brother.
That is a talk about.
We don't condone that.
He's trying to help her out.
You should tell her a story different next time.
Yeah, I wasn't telling her to lift their shirt or anything.
Yeah.
I was like, let's hang up on this guy.
Because Alexis has done that five different times, and it's never worked out well.
My skirt's above my neck.
I don't get it.
All right.
So you said you've been in contact with her, but nothing is come of it.
Nothing.
And do you promise us that you didn't ask for anyone else's number at that party?
Oh, because she could have seen it?
Well, they're all friends.
Not only did I not ask for anyone else.
his number that day. I've been doing this for over a year and have never asked anybody for that
number. We've met the one upstanding bartender in the entire world. It's because he's doesn't
done it for a year. He's a rookie. Yeah. Given another year, you'll be a different man. But in the
meantime, we'll be selling drugs out of the truck. Let's call Bethany for you. We're going to come back
and try and get you your second date update right after this. Second date update.
The T-Pain once said, I love the bar.
bartender.
Yeah.
Ooh, we'd be looking for me, but our bartender is not getting any love.
Oh, man.
That's what he does for a living.
He left his old job a year ago and started a mobile business serving drinks at different
events where he ended up meeting a lady named Bethany at a backyard joint bachelor
bachelorette party.
Oh, my God.
And it's the only woman in an entire year that he's ever asked for her number.
That's the type of impact that she had on him.
They opened up to each other there.
shared about their lives and their interests.
Even after she gave him her number, though,
she is not responding to him,
and they haven't done an official first date.
She's the opposite of T-Paint.
She's not in love with the bartending.
Yeah, but we want her to get there.
So, I mean, honestly, Zach, you're lucky that you're on the phone right now
because if you were in studio,
Brooke would be filling up your tip jar with so much cash.
That's right.
And other things.
I like a big pore.
She can't just buy her own drink
That's not a euphemism or anything
I just like a lot of alcohol in my cup
It is a euphemism
You know it's true
Brooke is a problem at every event
That she goes to in a good way
But she's actually going to be on your side today
I am I am
You know you said that the only like
Maybe kind of embarrassing moment
Was at the end when you told her to pull her top up
Because she was kind of losing things
Right
I don't know
I mean as a drunk woman
The tops are always fallen
But did he say, top or dress?
You know, there's a different, like...
Hope was she understood.
Yeah, that's what I'm trying to say.
Yeah.
I see, I see.
Well, maybe she was pulling it down for you.
That's a Brooke move.
That is definitely, classic Brooke.
And then that'd be like, uh, hello, I showed up with Cleavis.
She'll be to put it away.
Excuse me, sir, the left one's out for a reason.
How's twice if he resisted.
Anyway.
I mean, we can speculate all we want.
We actually have to call Bethany here and figure out what's going on.
Let's do it. I'm going to call her.
Sorry, I'm just imagining just having one boob out.
It's really funny to me.
Here we go. We're calling Bethany.
Hi, Bethany.
Hey, Bethany. Sorry to interrupt your day, but we're a radio show called Brooke and
Jeffrey in the morning.
Okay.
Hi.
Welcome to the show.
Hi.
We want you to be a part of this segment we're doing called a second date update
because we're trying to help out one of our listeners get in touch with you.
Yeah, you guys never really went on a date.
Yeah.
But you made a connection.
Okay.
Yeah.
You don't have to be nervous.
We don't bite.
Sorry.
You sound like you just got cornered.
No one's got a lot of voices.
Yeah.
We just want to ask you about a guy that you met recently at, like, a Bachelor, Bachelorette event.
He was the bartender there named Zach.
Yeah, yeah.
What did you think of Zach?
You know, I thought it was really nice at first.
At first.
But then he was really sexy, secondly.
You had too sexy, I couldn't.
Okay.
No.
Something changed?
Yeah.
He kept going, like,
on and on and on about how he like put his job and now he has this business and
been doing so well and there's so much more money yeah we spoke to him a little bit before
and he we heard that he's very proud of his new business because he started it all himself
and that's great that's great to be proud right but he also didn't seem to want to know
anything about what I was doing oh no that's not good yeah that's too bad that's too bad
It was very uncomfortable.
And then, at one point, like, things got busy, you know?
Like, a lot of people were drinking, and he had, like, ran out of Diet Coke.
And so I helped him, and I went and grabbed some of the Diet Coke for him.
So I was like, oh, I could do that.
That's not a problem.
Okay.
So you were maybe still a little flirty with him at that point.
It was just, yeah, he was alone.
And, like, I've worked different service industry jobs.
And so I know how it gets.
And so, like, yeah, let me just help you out.
Like, it's a nice thing to do.
Okay.
That's cool.
Yeah, that's awesome.
I thought so, too, but he'd already had my number at that point.
He must have really appreciated me grabbing those Diet Cokes because he Venmoed me $20.
What?
What do you mean he Venmoed you $20?
He paid you?
For what?
What did he put in the comments of the Venmo?
That's a good question.
He put, here's a tip for the bartender.
Weird.
And I'm like, I was just being nice.
I just felt really weird and kind of like, you know,
like when like creepy old men and you like do something nice and then they like slip you like
you know Alexis she's talking to you here creepy old men I can be uncomfortable sometimes yeah
you're saying creepy old men started as creepy young men yeah yeah and I'm just like is this the
modern version of like an old man slipping you some cash yeah yeah hey sweetheart well I mean yeah
maybe slipping slipping money could be a little bit creepy but this is going to be worse
There's nothing creepy about somebody quietly listening in on a phone conversation wanting to join, right?
Sorry about that.
This is our company.
Because Zach is on the other line wanting to talk to you.
Hello there.
Are you serious?
Yeah, that's Zach.
Hey, I apologize.
I didn't mean to offend you with the tip there.
I just didn't know what to do there.
And just I thought, well, you know, let me, you help me out.
You're a normal person.
You go a tip that way.
Okay, okay.
Listen to her, Zach now.
Remember, that was part of the problem.
Go ahead, Bethany.
Tell them how you were feeling.
You know, like, it just felt like you were.
Yeah, I know how you felt.
I heard the conversation.
I get it.
Well, it might be worth hearing her out.
Yeah.
I just appreciate the fact that you had to say.
I'm sorry, it went weird.
Yeah.
So.
This is going really well.
I know that you're a bartender, and a good lesson for bartenders is to listen to
the customers because they'll actually
stick around longer and pay more. I think a good lesson to just
people, right? Like, did you ask her one
question that you can remember?
No, I guess not.
Oh, bro. You're not even going to try.
Hey, at least he has a good memory. He knows he doesn't ask.
Would you like to ask her anything about herself?
Yeah. I know what you normally drink. Is there a second
favorite that you have?
Oh, that's something. Is it something, Jeff?
At least it's a question about her?
No.
I didn't think sending her $20 would be that big a deal.
I figured she told me she was a cycling instructor.
I didn't think she was getting rich on that.
Oh, wait.
Oh, wow.
It's probably true, though, let's be honest.
It depends on the studio.
You can actually make pretty good money.
Yeah.
Just like any business.
Zach, maybe you should leave your bartending job
and get into cycling if there's that much money in it.
I saw a thing recently where they put a blender on the
front of a bike, and you could do both where you have to
make your own margarita by pedaling really fast.
Oh, and when you're done, you can drink it.
Yeah. That's so smart. That could be
your niche. I actually
don't know how to ride a bike.
Oh. Wait, what? It was
stationary. Yeah.
It's not a two wheeler. He still falls
off.
Jack, man. I bet that was a lot to hear.
That was a lot to hear. Yeah.
It sounds like he means well, but it's
not coming out.
No. Maybe Zach has learned some lessons in the
last few minutes. Zach, what have you learned from
this call? I learned that she
never answered her question about her
second favorite drink.
Okay. Okay.
You're not going to fix this guy.
Well, we always
offer this because we kind of have to.
But, Bethany, we would love to send
you out on another, on a first date,
actually, with Zach. Does he have
to be there? Yeah, Zach does
have to be there. And the good news is
nobody has to pay through Venmo or anything.
We're going to cover the bill.
Yeah.
I'm up for anything.
really as long as we don't ride bikes anywhere.
Okay.
You're serious about that.
What if that be ironic a cycling instructor dating a guy who couldn't ride a bike?
Bethany?
Do you want to give him a shot?
You know, I think I should just stick to my gut from our first interaction.
Okay.
But I appreciate the offer.
That's a no.
Oh, man.
All right.
Well, you got your answer, Zach.
Yeah, but if you tip us $40, we'll ask her again.
that's okay i mean i can see what's going on i can read between the lines and see what's happening
i feel like i was very straightforward i think all the lines had all the writing on him i thought you'd be
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That's true.
Even though he kind of embarrassed himself on the radio,
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I don't know if he can stop talking about himself.
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Oh, yeah.
I mean, it would be cute to see him on training wheels.
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