Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - Second Date Update Classics: No Fire In The Fireplace +Best Date Of My Life

Episode Date: May 30, 2026

Part 1  One of our listeners realized she’s been approaching dating apps the wrong way… and one piece of advice completed shifted her romantic life. Part 2 The kiss that happened at the end of our listener's date was either the cutest, most spontaneous thing ever, or the cringiest, most awkward interaction of all time. Decide for yourself after the Second Date Update!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And thanks for subscribing. It means a lot to us. We do have two back-to-back classics. Those might be ones that you've previously heard. Yeah. Okay, that's what the classic means. But let's read some comments before we get to it. Yes. I mean, I love seeing what people do while they're listening to me.

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Like when you find out the little drawer below your oven isn't for storing pans. That's for keeping food warm. Yeah, it's a food warmer. Did you know that? Yeah, I do and I still keep my pans in there. Yeah. It's just too convenient. Or when Alexis realized the turn signals on her car aren't just lights to press when a fun song comes on the radio.

Oh, that's not a dancing? But they click to the beat. Yeah, they did this. Yeah. Well, one of our listeners realized she's been approaching dating apps the wrong way for years. But one piece of advice completely shifted her thinking and helped her find the perfect guy. Now, he's not calling her back, but that's not here or there. The advice might actually help you, though, if you hear it in your second date update right after this.

Brook and Jeffrey in the morning. Second date update. Alexis, if you could describe not the perfect guy for you, but the feeling that you get when you're around that guy. That's so cute. Close your eyes and tell us the three words that he makes you feel. A little bit roasted. Like I want him to be mean to me a little bit.

Belittled? A little bit. That's the first thing that comes to your mind. That's a wrong answer? No, it's wherever you want to feel. Belittled is one. Full of food. I hope I get to go.

Oh, drunk, a little tipsy. Oh, my God. I don't know if I've ever met anyone is scared of emotions as you are. Yeah, seriously. Terrify. You said imagine. This is what I'm imagining.

Everybody's perfect guy looks a little bit different. I guess. It's like Michael B. Jordan making fun. Sometimes you see two guys because you just have double vision. I bring it up because one of our listeners says she figured out how she wants to feel when she meets her perfect guy. That's sweet. And maybe it even happened to her this last date.

I mean, he's not calling her back. But that doesn't matter. She felt a certain way. That could feel good, though. Like, just a little bit of not talking about. See, she likes being ignored. If it's one day, it's hot. Well, let's talk to Alice and hear about it.

Alice, how you doing? I'm good in you guys. How are you? I don't know. I'm worried about Alexis, but I think the rest of us are fine. Would you like us to roast you? Because we will. I bring it up because in your email, you said you felt the way that you wanted to feel when you met up with this guy.

What does that mean? Well, the deal is that I've just been meeting the wrong guys. My discernment hasn't been the best because I usually go for guys that wind up being wrong for me. Okay. So you're taking a different approach, looking for a different feeling. Yes. Yeah. So I heard this podcast by this lady.

And she said, instead of looking for your firecracker, you should be looking for your fireplace. Oh, that's good. I like that. I've heard this. Like you're supposed to go for the slow burn type of person. That's absolutely. Okay. What does that mean?

Okay. So like firecrackers, like for me, like I get butterflies and knots to my stomach. Like I get like an adrenaline rush. It's so fun. It's scary, but it's like a ride I want to go on. But then the ride crashes. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Oh, okay. It's a dangerous ride. It's a dangerous ride. You know, now a fireplace is actually more, it's welcoming. It's. It's warm. You look forward to that comfort. You're not scared.

Right. You're not scared. It's not all the bells and whistles. So basically you're not supposed to be looking for the exciting person anymore. You're supposed to look for the safe person. Right. I need to be swiping right on the fireplaces. All right.

So is this guy that you went out with, the fireplace? He fits the profile where he doesn't necessarily knock my socks off. But he does tick off the butt. But he does tick off the bus. boxes that I like and that's what I found in him. Doesn't knock your socks off and maybe he would mend your socks if they ever was a whole. He'll like untie a shoe.

He'll warm them because he's a fire. So what's his name? His name is Paul. He's got a fireplace name. What did you and Paul decide to do? What did you in this fireplace go? Okay, so what we decided to do was to go out to dinner

at 5.30. At 5.30? Was that his idea or were you just really pushing this old person person? Well, no, actually he said he had to be home to be in bed by 930 so they could go to work. Oh, wow. Even when I was dating, I wouldn't go to bed at 930. You know? It's like one night to stay up late.

Yeah, come on. Brooks attracted to those firecrackers, that's why. Yeah. Right. Okay. So you were excited about this because this is still like fulfilling what your thought is of him. Yeah. How did dinner go?

Dinner went really well. I mean, he told me he likes to cook. He likes to bake. And when he said that to me, it's like that gave me some really nice, like, low-key fireplace vibes, which I really like. Yes. So did you tell him this? Because you've brought it up so many times. Like, did you use the term firecracker and fireplace with him?

That's what I mean. Honestly, I didn't want to bring up those terms because I just wanted him to be himself and not think that he had to be somebody else. Okay. That's good. It's probably not going to go too well if you keep referring to him as the safe fireplace. Yeah. I mean, every guy wants to be. to think of themselves as a bad boy in some ways, right?

Yeah. So, okay, he seems to be checking the boxes that you want. Right. You know, he said he was looking for long term. You know, he's into health and nature. And that to me was perfect. I mean, I wasn't getting butterflies in my stomach, you know. I feel like that should still be happening.

Yeah, there should be a balance of all. Yeah. No, no. You don't want to have that. Okay. That's a firecracker. Okay. So I'm guessing, like, you guys didn't end the night with a kiss or anything.

Well, near the ending of the night, he tells me a joke. And he says to me, did I want him to teach me a car trick? So I said, sure. Okay. And then he says, oh, well, I don't know any. Oh, gotcha. Oh, got so funny, though. Oh, yeah.

Well, hopefully you didn't laugh too hard because then you're going to get too excited and that would be a turnoff. Was that the only funny moment? Is that why you brought that up? I feel like they both laugh and they go, okay, let's calm down. Let's calm down. It's just so specific. What was there like any, like hug or? I'll say we did a nice little hug.

I mean, I thought it was, I thought it was a good date. It wasn't over the top type of thing. That's what you want, though. There wasn't like a bad experience or one big negative thing. Okay. So what's happened since the date? Oh, this is the thing. Now, I haven't heard back or gotten a call back from this boring fireplace guy.

You sound so. So are you just more mad that he's not calling you back or do you really want to see him again? I really would like to see him again, but I'm like, how could you not call me back? Right. Yeah, like, what could you possibly have going on outside of what you told me? Wow. Okay. I have a cat.

Maybe we should dial down some of this language when we actually get him on the phone. But we're going to call him. We'll try and stoke that fire back up and not too brightly when we do your second date up. date right after this. Okay. Hold on. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Second date update.

I got the strangest text message from the Academy of Radio Broadcasters saying we just hit a new radio record for saying the word fireplace in a single segment. Over 15,000 times. Hey, you know what? We know what we're looking for, Jeff. Yeah. And I'm only going to say it once more because our listener, Alice, used that term as a simple analogy for what she's looking for

in her romantic partner. She learned she needs to stop chasing fire crackers and start looking for her fireplace. And whatever you do don't chase waterfalls either. We'll just put it in there. We don't need any more analogies thrown in. Basically, it's stop looking for the

exciting guy who gives you butterflies. Start looking for the safe option. Yeah. Settle, kind of. Not really. I mean, it's just like... Different things. Yeah, just don't look for the stuff that's going to fizzle out really quick. Yeah. You're looking for. for that feeling that's going to make you feel like you're at home.

Yeah. And now that she went down that road, the fireplace is leaving her on red. Yeah. I said fireplace again. I'm not going to say it anymore. We can't break our own record, Jeff. It's like our wood soggy. It just won't light, you know.

Alice, how are you feeling before we call him here? I'm feeling pretty good. I'm just hoping to figure out why I haven't heard back from Paul. I like that you still have hope. But not too much. Because that's a firecracker feel. I mean, it's like you're like shifting everything to try to find the thing that you're supposed to have. And even that is a struggle right now.

But I don't think it will be at the end of this. I hope so. Yeah, we all do. Yeah, it's interesting. We're going to be calling a boring guy for a radio segment here. Not the best rating strategy on our part. But you know what? Let's dial him up anyway.

Stay tuned. We've got a crackling fireplace on the line. Hopefully we can squeeze a little bit of excitement out of this. But here we go. Hey, we're looking to speak with Paul. This is Paul. I'm sorry. I don't know.

Not that we wanted you to come hot out of the gate or anything. Good morning, my friend. Yeah, hey, Paul. First of all, thank you so much for answering this number that I'm sure you didn't recognize. Yeah, we're strangers, we know. We're a radio station called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Okay. Okay.

Cool. Nice. Okay. Let's keep this going because what we're doing here is called a second date update. and we're trying to help out one of our listeners that you actually went out to dinner with a few nights ago. And she had a really nice time with you. Her name is Alice. Yeah. Good old Alice, huh?

Yeah. It's pretty exciting. Well, we'd like to open it up to you for a second and tell us what you thought about the date, what you thought about Alice. What is this for? Well, it's a second aid update. Basically, Alice has reached out to us because she told us a little bit about your night together. She had a great time. Yeah.

How was it for you? Um, I'm just not really sure how the date went, I guess. I don't know. I don't get a lot of matches. I was pretty nervous. I spent a long time doing my hair. Doing hair. Yeah.

Nice to hear, man. For sure. Well, hey, it makes feel better. She said that she was nervous to meet up with you, too. Yeah. I told her a joke at one point, and it kind of failed, but kind of worked at the same time. I'm not really sure. What other joke did you tell her?

Are you talking about the magic trick joke? Yeah. Okay. That was hilarious. We all laughed at that. Yeah, she told us that. Yeah, you're funny. Yeah, it was good.

Okay. That's a complex. I feel good about that. Why would you not be calling her back? And why wouldn't you be excited right now? Like, we're telling you it was a good date. I don't know. I just didn't know how to feel about it.

And then we did talk about going out again, but she was talking about axe throwing. Yeah. And I don't know about that going out into the woods and throwing axes. It seems dangerous. Oh, far too. Paul.

Okay. Yeah. I understand you haven't dated in a while. It sounds like you might not know this, but they actually have places set up where you're supposed to go indoors and throw axes at the wall at like targets. You don't even have to date to know that. I never heard of that. I thought it was kind of like a liability.

You're going to be fine, man. You're going to be fine. Well, this is going to be a relief to her. So you just weren't calling her back because you didn't think she liked you. You're just confused. And you were scared of axe throw. Yeah, I guess that's kind of the gist. Okay.

You know, it was probably really, really relieved to hear you say all those things. Is Alice, who is on the other line right now wanting to talk to you. Hi, Paul. How are you? Hi. I'm good. Oh, Paul, that was so cute. You could hear the smile on his picture. You hear that. I love it.

It's good to hear your voice, Paul. I was wondering why I hadn't heard back from you. I'm sorry. I guess I was just kind of unsure. I don't really know if you wanted to go out again or it went well. I think the ax-drawing idea really scared him off there, Alice. Like that you're not married to that as the next day. You know, like, we could.

always other activities that we could do. Would be good. I tend to be a bleeder. A bleeder. A bleeder or a leader. Wait a minute. Bleeder. A bleeder.

Okay. But you must feel good. Like you understand, like Alice, Alice likes you, right? Alice, you can even tell him yourself now. We don't have to be your voice. Paul, I really had a great time with you when we had dinner. I think the conversation was pretty good. Oh.

I don't know if maybe you might. might have been a little anxious, but, I mean, if you were, I couldn't tell. Your confidence has to be through the roof right now, right, Paul? Yeah. Good. All right. Good. Okay.

Listen, that confident man. There it is. That's why I tried to tee him up for that. I was trying. She did. And he knocked it down. All right. I mean, I think that you guys should give it one more shot.

I think we all think that. Choose, like, a safe activity. for you two to do no sharp objects anywhere around. Bowling? Bowling? Yeah. Yeah, we could do that.

You could come see my collection. Collection. What collection? The collection, huh? What do you collect, bro? Oh, I collect antique gynecological chairs. What?

I don't know what the world. Wait. Did you say gynaecological? Like with the stirrup feet? I heard dynical, like a dinosaur chair. Like a OBGY. chair? Yeah, but like they're from the 1800s. Whoa.

You collect those? Yeah, they're really kind of fascinating, actually. Why? Why are they fascinating, Paul? The leg things? Yeah, I mean, that period is kind of, you know, really interesting. I'm going to say not a great period in women's time. Well, it was the experimental things. They were trying to figure out what's going on down there.

They did not know. with that's a little, how are you feeling about that? Oh, that's a, that's a little bit odd. Well, I think maybe the question we need to ask is, do you feel like you have butterflies right now, Alice? Oh, I hope not. No, I don't. Well, that's a good sign for you.

That's the opposite of what you're looking for. So we would love to send you two out on another date. Wow. Paul, we'll pay for this date if you're willing to meet up. with Alice. Yeah, that sounds great. Okay. So yes, from Paul, Alice, you're still up for it?

You don't have to go to his house. You don't have to see the collection. I'll say maybe you can see pictures of his collection first and then judge from there if there's a third day. Yeah, from your comfort. Yes, I think that's what I would need to have a visual of the collection of the gynecological chair. Let's not say that word over and over again.

It's not like a massage chair. Take some photos of your collection and text them over, and then we'll send you guys out again on a date, okay? I'll send a link to my website. Oh, there's a whole website. Oh, no. All right. Paul stirrups.com. Okay.

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I mean, the whole firecrack. fireplace thing needs to come with an asterisk now, right? Because the quote, safe, quiet introvert also might have some secret firecracker tendencies. Are you saying might burn your house down? Yeah. Yeah, I think that that's what it is. You need to get that chimney inspected is what you need to do. I think it's more of a bonfire situation.

Maybe. It's not good. Well, we did get them a second date, though. Maybe. Before we found out some stuff. Okay. If she goes, we need to do a safety checkout. afterwards just to make sure she's okay.

He's a history buff. He's not actually doing any examinations with that stuff. He's a collector of old goods. See, you're the one that walks down a dark alley at 2 a.m. and says nothing bad's going to happen. Ladies, why are you running? I'm a collector of old goods. I want to go to his house and see all the gynecological chairs.

I bet they're cruel. No, Jeff, for other reason. Oh, yeah. Maybe I'll strap myself in, too. Whatever. You do that, Jeff. Yeah, maybe go check it out for her first. I will.

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The saying goes, love is in the eye of the beholder. Meaning what Alexis? I don't know. Maybe you have sunglasses on to make someone look better. No. I like that. Okay. Sure.

That's one way to take it. Another way to take it is that what works romantically for some people may totally not work for other people. That was what I was saying. Yeah, but with sunglasses on, sure. But that was definitely the case in today's call. Because the kiss that happened at the end of the night, depending on who you ask, is either the cutest most spontaneous thing ever. or the cringiest most awkward interaction of all time. I like that there's no middle ground either.

That's what I appreciate. Not when you hear it. You can decide when you find out what happened in your second date update right after this. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Second date update. Brooke, I want you to think about the best date that you've ever been on. Oh, that's cute. I know it's probably not with your husband.

No, it is with my husband, Jeffrey. you're expected it would be. But what's the thing that happened that made you say this date tops them all? That's a big question. Honestly, it's just the person I'm with. Boring. Oh, come on. You're supposed to say the fireworks or like the chef made me a $700 snail.

The three-way kiss at the end. That's it. That's what it was. With the waiter. Okay. Yeah. That makes sense. Well, one of our listeners emailed the show.

show saying his most recent date easily ranks number one all time. Easily, huh? And I'm just assuming he's been on more than one. Otherwise, that statement really doesn't say much. So let's talk to Chris about it. Chris, welcome to the show, man. How you doing? Hey, guys.

Thanks for taking my call. I really appreciate it. Yeah, it sounds like you're putting a lot of pressure on this first date. Yeah. You haven't been on more than one date in your life, right? Yes, no. I've been on a lot of dates in the last few years. And honestly, none of them really hit.

at all. Like, I didn't feel like there was any connection, but this last girl, Kendra, it was like the date of a lifetime. Okay. Oh, okay. Are you saying that because of Kendra or because of the activity and the environment? I think it was a combination of the entire, the entire night was kind of great. You'll see, you'll see by the end. Oh, wow. Our dating lives will look paltry in comparison. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I agree. Let's get right into it. Tell us where'd you meet Kendra. Okay, so I bought her flowers. We went to a restaurant. The question that I asked her, you're really eager to tell us, and I appreciate that.

Hey, they could have met in the flower shop. Maybe. He's so excited about this story. Where did you meet her? Oh, we met online. There you, okay. I don't even know why you bothered to ask. I actually understand why that was a confusing question.

Yeah. Yeah. I see. And now where did you two meet at a restaurant, it sounds like? We met at a restaurant. Okay. I'm glad you let him. And he bought her flowers.

Okay. And I bought her flowers, which. is an important part of the story because she was so shocked by a guy because no guys buy flowers anymore. That's what she said at me at least. Oh. The no guys buy flowers on a first day. Well, they are pretty expensive. They're also kind of annoying to have a dinner.

I would say, I've got in trouble. I don't think girls like flowers that much anymore. And they like them just after. Okay, anyways. That is a good point, Alexis. I mean, what did Kendra do with the flowers after you gave them to her? Well, that was part of the story. The server even complimented the flowers.

Oh, good. When the server complimented the flowers, she offered to let the server put flowers on everyone's tables. That's so nice. Oh. So she accepted your gift and immediately gave it away to the restaurant. Okay. Which when you say it like that, it doesn't sound so good. But it was really nice to watch that happen, and I'll see other people happy with these flowers.

It was a really nice moment. Yeah. Look at that. You bought everyone flowers. Well, they might not have got everyone in the restaurant. The one table that doesn't go in. It is a really good move, though. I feel like it looks good in her eyes.

And I assume it must have led to some good conversation, to some good moments. It really did. In fact, I'd say it got a little cheesy and so good that I got myself a little vulnerable, you know what I mean? Oh, the pants came off that quickly. You say it like that. Did you say it cried? Is that what you just said?

I didn't cry, but I sort of as a 26-year-old, I gave up on meeting anybody at this point. 26 isn't that old, just so you know. She's 29. And she said she was going through similar stuff. So it was like we kind of hit on the same subject. That's really cute. What happened at the end of the night? We went back to her place.

We walked to her place. She didn't live that far from the restaurant. So it was really nice, romantic walk. Did you hold hands? We held pinkies. That's not nice. That's even better. I don't know.

That's the friend finger. Wait, you have a friend finger? Yeah. That's the one you do pinky promises with your friends. Oh, I thought you were. going somewhere else. I thought he was too. Anyway, did you, after the pinky holding, did you get a kiss?

So it was kind of a funny situation. She lives in a community that has a wall around it and you have to, it's not easy to get into, you know? What the heck? She's in a biodome or like a sphere? A prison or some sort? I think it's just an apartment with a gate is what he means. Oh. Okay. Which are pretty common.

Oh, okay. I like bioprism. I'm not familiar. But okay, I get it. There's a gate. So there's a gate and she didn't have her key. Oh, so you're locked out Or maybe it's a move that she's pulling Where she's like, oh, I can't find my keys Uh-oh

She wasn't, what would happen? Or do you need me to strip search myself? I wasn't going there. Maybe I was more like maybe we should go back to your place Instead, maybe that's what she was. I don't think she need to pull a move to ask to go back to a guy's house. I don't know I prefer her own place.

Yeah. I don't know I'm standing naked as part of the game. That's how Brooks dates go. So what happened, Chris? So I know this sounds ridiculous, but so I decided to jump the gate. Oh. So you can open it on the other side. She has like a window?

Right. Oh, you could open the gate. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I had to climb it and pull myself up over it. What is there? As I'm pulling myself up over it, I get stuck. My pants get stuck on it. Oh, God.

I'm hanging upside down. No. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, the last. Look at those spiky fences. Right. That is so.

sexy, yes, Brooke. Embarrassing. What did she do? Well, she kissed me. What? Oh, Spider-Man kiss, upside down. An upside-down. Your pantsless, spider-man.

She kissed you. I was just as shocked as you were. Wow. I guess she likes her men immobile. Vulnerable. Now I can get them. Now I can pounce. Did you like it?

Was that awkward or was it romantic? Oh, no, it was a nice. It's a very nice romantic moment, but it's been a, couple of days since that happened. We texted for a couple of days. And then since then, she hasn't gotten back to me. Maybe you're a bad upside down kisser. Yeah, it can be confusing because usually you put your tongue this way, but when you're upside down, it needs to go that way. I practice this, so we know. She found another man suspended on a fence and took him to step. Maybe that's her thing. Some guy working on the phone lines. Okay. Well, we're going to, we're going to come back.

We'll call Kendra for you and try to get you your next most romantic. date ever when we get to maybe a right side up kiss? Let's not get crazy. We'll do it with your second date update next. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Second date update. If you're just joining us, we've basically

got the real life Peter Parker on the phone. Oh. Who received the rare coveted upside down kiss during his date with Kendra. You didn't see the sequel where Spider-Man got his pants cut? Oh, okay.

Oh, he doesn't. That's okay. Yeah, we're still in the Toby McGuire universe with this one. That was that iconic one. Yeah, Toby would totally get his pants stuck on a fence. Yeah, absolutely. It happened after Chris fell while scaling the security gate outside of Kendra's apartment, as you do on a lot of dates.

Yeah, those fences are hard to climb, though. Yeah, but his pants got caught when he fell, and it was there in that embarrassing moment when animal instinct took over. And Kendra walked right up to him and smooched him in the face. Which is such a good sign because that really could have been an ick moment for her. Yeah. You know? And obviously she thought it was adorable.

So no wonder Chris is describing it as his best date ever, but weird that she's not texting him back since she's the one who initiated that moment. You know what? We never asked Chris, did she ever get back into her apartment? Because maybe that's why she hasn't responded. That's a good point. Yeah, somebody came by a few minutes later and let her in. Oh. Oh, okay.

I guess you didn't even wait that long? I didn't even think about just waiting until somebody else showed up. That would have been smart. We're going to call Kendra. We'll see if she picks up. God, I hope this works out for you. I mean, there's so much pressure on this one. You know, it's like his best date he's ever been on.

Well, I felt pretty relaxed until you said that. Now, all of a sudden, I'm super stressed out for no reason. Don't screw it up, Jeff. Oh, God. Okay. Here we go, then. Hey, is this Kendra? Um, perfect.

Oh. I think that's a yes. She said who is this? Oh, that she said seriously? No. No, she said who is this? Sorry, Kendra. Hi, Kendra.

We're a radio show. We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. How many of you are there? Too many, yes. I agree. It's a whole show, Kendra. Okay. All right.

So we're reaching out to you because one of our listeners has asked us to get a hold of you, a guy that you went on a date with recently, named Chris. Oh, okay. Yeah. So this is all part of a segment we do called a second date update where we're trying to figure out if there's a reason you have stopped texting him after the date. Um, I mean, obviously, yeah. Obviously? Not to him. The reason should be obvious?

No, no, no. Just like it's obvious that, yes, I have a reason. Yeah. Okay. We just want to know because we spoke to Chris and he told us about your date. And it sounded actually much better than we ever thought it could have been given the circumstances. Honestly, I'd love to hear your side of the story. Okay. It was a good date.

Like, it was a really good date, honestly. Oh, cute. Okay. Oh, that's good to hear. I mean, I wouldn't have kissed him at the end of it if it was a bad date. Oh, my God. That's where you and Brooke differ. So that's nice to you.

Brooke kisses everybody. She's mad at you. You better watch out. No, but he told us about that first kiss. Like, that was crazy. The upside down one? Yeah. I mean, when you have a movie moment, you have to, like, take it, right?

Oh, you felt like it was that magical, too. Like, it really was a movie moment. Well, yeah, it was a Spider-Man kiss. Totally. Yeah, that's the first thing we jumped to as well. Well, if that's the case, then why after your movie moment, aren't you calling Chris back? Well, I mean, I don't really know what he told you besides that we kissed. That was kind of the story.

I mean, that was the majority. We know that you guys went to a restaurant. He told us about the flowers, that he brought you flowers and you guys passed him out among the other tables. He immediately gave his gift away. Oh, did he? Yes, I didn't think he would mind. No, he thought it was really sweet. Oh, okay, okay.

Yeah. Yeah. Here's the thing. Chris is great, but he lied to me. What? And I mean, he lied about something pretty big. Pretty big. Uh-oh.

Like what? Like his name or something? Dude, I mean. No, it's not his name. He said that he was 26 and he's like 42-ish. What? That's a big... Wait a second.

Wait a second. You had a good time. I had a good time. Why does it matter what age anybody is? Wait, wait, wait, wait, Chris. That doesn't sound good. Yeah, Kendra, you didn't know this, but Chris has been listening on the other line. Maybe with the hearing age.

Yeah, oh, my God. What's up because I'm 42? Look, that's awful. Wait, wait, wait, hold on. You are 42, Chris. You told us that you were 26. Yeah, I'm kidding, bro. But age doesn't matter.

It doesn't matter how old I am. Again, we had a good time. Lying about age matters. It doesn't matter. Why do you lie? That's only 13 years different. Okay. That is wild.

And Chris, if age isn't important, then why did you lie about it? Because she wouldn't have gone out with me if I said I was 42. I had to tell her that, of course. When I was in my 20s, I wouldn't date somebody in their 40s either. It happens in Hollywood all the time. Men and women are older than the significant others. Actually, yeah. Normal.

Super true. A lot of healthy relationships in Hollywood. And it's people having the information. to make that choice, right? So she, you lied to her. Kendra, what are your thoughts on this? I mean, here's the thing. Like, I'm not entirely truth about my age on the app either.

What? I say that I'm 29, but I'm actually 31. But that's not like a... Wait a second. Wait a second. You lie about your age online. That's disgusting. Well, girls are allowed to guys.

Wait. Okay. Now you're being sarcastic. You don't really have a leg to stand on when you're doing it. I think he's being sarcastic. You're being sarcastic, right? No, it's the same. A lie is a lie.

whether it's 29 or 42. Okay. So you're not upset that she lied about her age because you lied about yours? I'm upset that she's upset about me lying about my age if she lies about hers. Yeah. Somehow I follow that. You think no matter what it is, the lies should cancel out and you should be uneven playing field. Yeah, a lie should cancel out a lie.

Okay. Okay. I mean, it's kind of messed up that you lied to. No, here's my thing. It's like when people are like looking for people who they want to date and they go my age bracket, they're looking for people between 30 and 40. And I don't want the people, like, I'd rather date someone who's a little bit younger. So you aged out of the age bracket you're interested in is the problem.

Yes, but not by 16 years. Can I ask you an important question? It's 16. He doesn't know how to do math. It's literally 16. But he's doing the same exact thing that you're doing. He's lying about his age to open up his options the same way that you are. But he's opening it too far. Yeah. I mean, I don't think what she's doing is right, but I can see her point.

Like, you have a generation gap between somebody, well, I guess you're 31 now. So now you're only 11 years apart in age. So now it's not as big of the gap. Billions of years old. What's the difference between 13 years? I can't tell who side I'm on who. I don't know. And technically, the age gap is just 11 years now.

Yeah, that's what I just said. But I wasn't listening to you, Brooke, because you're older. I have my cutoff at age 35, so. So, Alexis, if you have anything to say, feel free to jump in. I'm so confused. My question is, when you kissed him, did you know he was 40 by then? I had suspicions. I mean, I knew he wasn't 26.

But that means you guys got along so well, even you were bending your rules a little in your head. Right, exactly. I wasn't bending my rules 11 years. No, you're right. You are right, but I'm just saying, At some point, you came to a conclusion almost and you still- I think Jose's on to something. You both can you get over this?

That's really the question. Is that the only problem? Because if you guys just get along great. Just a big lie about who you are. Is that it? Well, there is the same. That age is just a number. It shouldn't matter if the connection is real.

And if that connection is true, we'd like to offer to send you two out on another date and we would pay for it. That would be nice. I like when people pay for my dates. I'd do it. I'm down. He's older. He likes free food.

He's a cheap, cheap old man, I see. Waiting for that senior discount. But Kendra, we will pay for it. It's up to you. Look, if we would have met organically and had the connection we had, then I might have been able to forgive that he's 42. But the lying is, it's just going to bother me. But your lies don't bother.

That's right. No, my lie is fine. Okay. Even she's laughing at himself. There's an age limit. There's different lies. Gotcha. You know, Chris, I'm sorry, man.

Oh, that's too bad. And it was the best date of his entire life. Well, if that's it, guys, I'm going to let her know the truth that I'm not actually 42. I'm 46. What? No. No. No.

Oh, my God. Is that why you wore the baseball hat backwards on our date? Like, you're literally a dad. Yeah, that's why you couldn't get over the fence. Oh, you just want to stop. No wonder he knows who Toby McGuire. is done. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.

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their age, but I don't know if I'm ever going to understand the thinking behind it. Because at some point, the truth about your real age is going to come out. Yeah. I mean, maybe it's like one of those things where you feel like you'll just be so connected by then. It won't matter. Yeah. Like, that's what you hope, right?

I don't think that that's ever true. A lie always. matters, but... Yeah. Because eventually, you're going to have to explain why your high school graduation photo has a watermark that says Sears Portrait Studio, 1986. And then everyone's going to be confused. I thought it was bold that he tried to play out that he was younger than her.

Yeah. Just like, hey, I'm 32 or like I'm a few years older. He's three years younger than her? He's like overcompensated. All I need to know is what filter he's using on his photos. I mean, I don't need it for personal use. I swear. Yeah.

It's just a curiosity. Exactly. That's got to be it. Okay. So just to be clear, we're not saying don't lie. We're just saying lie smarter. Yes. Can we agree to do that?

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