Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - Second Date Update Classics: Picture Says It All + Promotion Commotion

Episode Date: May 31, 2025

Part 1: One of our listeners figured out a way to get his entire evening PAID FOR, and it involved no lying, not scheming and not cheating. How did it work? We're going to find out! Part 2: One of our... listeners says it was a HUGE PLUS that his date listened to our show! That should have been his first red flag, now he wants our help in your Second Date Update. Get your 2nd Date Update Merch For A Cause HERE!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:37 Being a guy is expensive. You ask one person on a date, suddenly you're dropping over a hundred bucks just to make sure everybody has a good time. Yeah! But one of our listeners just figured out a way to get his and his date's entire night completely paid for involved no lying, no cheating, no scheming. Wow! And it somehow still worked. He didn't even plan it really, it just happened totally on accident. Wow, Mr. Perfect! Will it help our listeners get themselves some free drinks?
Starting point is 00:04:09 Yes, please Jeff! I have a feeling it might and that's a very dangerous thought. You're gonna hear it in your second date update right after this. Second date update! We've heard of creative ways Alexis gets free drinks when she's at the bar, where she claims to be from poison control and is testing the tequila for arsenic. What? I thought she just said hi. No, she wants more arsenic. I'm going to need three more pairing fire shots just to be like really sure.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Oh, and six shots for my friend. Or if you want to pass the inspection. We're trying to save the world. Oh and six shots for my friend One of our male listeners apparently figured out another way to get free drinks for him and for his date at multiple different spots So get ready to take notes here. His name is Nathan Nathan. Welcome to the show Hey, how's it going? Good. I mean everybody's super intrigued. They want to hear how you're doing it. What do you inspect? What do you act as? It's nothing like that it's something completely different, okay
Starting point is 00:05:20 Inspections well, we'll get to whatever your method is for getting free drinks in a second first Tell us about the girl that you went out with what's her name? Oh? Her name is Megan. I met her online Okay Okay, what'd you like about Megan? Sorry your phone just sounds like you're shouting into a megaphone Okay, Nathan tell us how you and Megan got to the point of getting free drinks for each other Okay, so pretty much me and Megan met up for our first date. She tells me that she just got like a promotion at her job. So I was like super excited.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Oh, we got to celebrate tonight. Good on her. Yeah. And a great reason to like take her out and have something to talk about and make her pay for the drinks because she's the one making all the money now. You're rich now. No, I'm not going to make a girl pay for her drinks. I have a better idea. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:06:08 What's your idea? We went to a lot of bars and every bar I'd walk into, I'd just yell out, hey, this girl got a promotion. People would just cheers and buy us drinks. And then you asked? Wait, you said, can you buy us drinks afterwards? No, people would just cheer us and then buy a string So be like Jeff's from like you make more money than me
Starting point is 00:06:36 What bars you go to where like nobody ever gets promotions Smart about it is it's the truth. Yeah. It's not like you're scamming people, right? You're engaged, like a lot of people will do free free dessert. It's like, you're legit. Or pretending it's your birthday or something, you know?
Starting point is 00:06:56 It's pretty cool that that was working for you. Yeah, I mean, definitely it was working, but I mean, it got pretty hazy, that's for sure. Oh, I bet. A lot of free drinks coming your way. I think the last bar was actually, but I mean it got pretty hazy. That's for sure Yeah, I mean we went to this one street so like a bunch of bars And I was like pretty like past the point of buzz you know like where you like to get I drank too much Yeah 100 when you went from like oh things are good to like did now you start yelling for free food
Starting point is 00:07:29 I don't know though if you're like wasted wasted like I mean did you embarrass yourself? Remember I remember kissing her in the back of the uber so okay. Did she reciprocate? I mean, I remember being back at her place watching some TV Wait, you don't know how you went to her. Okay Remember ordering do she you what ordered what we ordered sushi, but yeah I mean I woke up the next morning and I was down. I was like, I'm not really feeling good Did you wake up at her place or your place her place? But then I just took off like I got it over and left but haven't heard back from her since Well, you left before you saw her. Were you waking up in bed or just like on the couch? I was on the couch
Starting point is 00:08:18 She was in the other room. Okay, wait, was she still there when you left? I think she was I mean, I didn't really look I was just concerned about getting home to like just recover I mean, yeah, I don't think you really want to like have after a heavy night of drinking and sushi That's the time to be like reconnect Say something like you stayed the night at the girls house Like if a dude just left without saying anything from my house I would think either a he doesn't Like me and he's trying to run that's true or B. He's a little weirdo Yeah, I mean that wouldn't be a good look the following day to walk in
Starting point is 00:08:58 If you texted her I think it's okay, so well yeah, what's happened since then since you left her apartment. Oh, you stayed in contact Nothing, and I got ghosted and I like just dropped off the face of the earth You know about this she may think the same thing she may be like I don't remember a lot Did I embarrass myself like you guys both maybe just playing it cautious? Do you know if she was on the same page with you in terms of drunkenness? Yeah, I mean she would go here. We were going drink for a drink, you know? Like, she's a cool chick.
Starting point is 00:09:27 I'd like to see her again. She's really awesome to hang out with. OK. OK. Maybe she's not lightweight. Well, who knows what went wrong? Maybe that Uber kiss that you thought was with her was actually with the driver.
Starting point is 00:09:39 But we're going to find out. Nobody was thinking that. Well, some people have lived better life experiences than others. Nobody knows some people have lived better life experiences than others. Nobody knows how I've lived my life. Yeah! Except your Uber drivers apparently. There's a reason I have a five-star review.
Starting point is 00:09:51 That's all I'm gonna say. Anyway, it's Nathan. Yeah, let's call her. Come on. Okay. We're gonna do that. We'll reach out to her and get you your second date update right after this. I'm Andrea Gunning, host of the podcast Betrayal.
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Starting point is 00:11:58 app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Second date update. If you're just joining us, our listener, Nathan, went on a wild, kind of hazy first date with a woman named Megan. I don't think there was any kind of about it, Jeff. Yeah, extremely hazy first date where he found out that she got promoted and that turned into a celebratory bar crawl down the street. He didn't know it at the time,
Starting point is 00:12:25 but Nathan actually came up with kind of a genius idea where every bar they walked into, he announced, hey, this girl just got promoted at work, and immediately they'd get free drinks showered upon them. Not showered on them, but like gifted to them. Yeah. By the way, next time we go to lunch, I'm telling everybody, yeah, this girl just got a raise!
Starting point is 00:12:45 But theirs wasn't a lie, theirs was serious. I know, but I'm gonna lie. And let's get you guys free drinks. That was fun for Nathan and Megan for the first two or three bars. After that, he doesn't remember a whole lot, except that he spent the night at her place on the couch. And I can't believe they ordered drunk sushi.
Starting point is 00:13:00 Yeah. I mean, who does that? Why not drunk nachos? Yeah. Interesting move. You wanna enjoy sushi. French fries.'s that why not drunk nachos It's an intoxicated choice Nathan clearly you had a lot of fun that night But why is it so important that you get in contact with Megan again? Because maybe this was supposed to be just like a one night crazy thing. Did you hear she's got money now? She's sugar mama Is that it Nathan oh
Starting point is 00:13:25 No, no, I just I thought she was just really cool to hang out with I don't believe a lot of cool people, you know A lot of his friends get promoted so he doesn't know I think that's cool I think that's a really sweet sentiment which you know, it's hard to be sweet and romantic after a very drunken evening so. Yeah. You were drunk and maybe Megan can help fill in some of the blanks that you have in the night
Starting point is 00:13:54 so we can figure out what really happened. Unless she has more blanks than he does. It's gonna be shocking to me that she doesn't share something embarrassing that you did. Oh. Yeah. I mean you're drunk drunk you don't remember. What if she did? Somebody did something. Something happened and we need to find out so let's dial her. Here we go hopefully she picks up.
Starting point is 00:14:20 Hello? Hey is this Megan? Is this she is this hey Megan? My name is Jeff from a radio show you might be familiar with called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. It's called say congratulations Yeah big promotion promoted at your job I'm so sorry. I'm a little confused. Sorry. What are you calling from? We're a radio show okay it's called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning and we sometimes reach out to people when we hear they got job promotions sometimes we also reach out when we hear they went on a really great date with somebody yeah you're kind of checking multiple
Starting point is 00:14:57 boxes here celebrating the job promotion yeah you fell in sorry I'm a little confused let me simplify this for you. We heard that you went out on a date with one of our listeners named Nathan. Oh my god. Why'd you gasp for him? Yeah. Are you serious? You guys know him or something?
Starting point is 00:15:17 Well, he listens to us. Nathan is actually the one who told us about your promotion. And the way you guys celebrated that night. Yeah! Oh, okay. what did he tell you? I'm curious. Sorry. It's only good things that you sound so nervous. I'm shaking. I'm very angry. We don't know all the details, but we know there was a bar crawl that had a lot of free drinks ended up at your place
Starting point is 00:15:45 but he doesn't remember a lot oh he doesn't remember yeah okay i'm not calling him back because he ate my goldfish wait my pet actual fish not a bag of you just say my actual swimming fish cleo gone i thought you had you he said you had sushi No, he told you that we ordered sushi He had like a 40 minute conversation about how no sushi places were open and none of them even deliver here No, did he tell you that we ordered sushi? Yeah Well, he said his memory was hazy, but that's one of the things he remembered There's no way there's not even in your drunkest state is a guy doing something
Starting point is 00:16:31 Goldfish actually often I told him I was going to bed. He crashed on my couch the next morning I wake up he's not there and I noticed that my goldfish tank near the window is completely empty. Wait, hold on. Okay, is it? He didn't even do it when you were present? He did it after you went to bed? I didn't see anything, I didn't hear anything.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Obviously like fish don't scream, so. Are you sure? I've heard of fish jumping out of tanks before. That happens. It's called evolution. I looked everywhere. There was no, there's no Cleo, she's gone. And you don't have a cat
Starting point is 00:17:05 I have no cat Cleo's my was was my only pet that's really sad We don't okay. So sad. It's we don't know that that's what actually happened You said yourself Megan you didn't see it Why are the yours I didn't see it and I didn't hear anything But if there's like a strange man in my apartment and he's going on and on about ordering Sushi and I wake up and my fish isn't there. What else? Imagine telling your friends my date ate my Okay, let's try as hard as we can not to jump to conclusions here. It's really important. We've heard Megan's side of the story.
Starting point is 00:17:47 It's really important that we get Nathan's side too, because Megan, he is on the other line listening to this. She's not afraid. Nathan, you there? Hey. Hi. Yeah. Hey, Nathan.
Starting point is 00:18:02 How's it going? Are you feeling energized and fueled from eating my fish? Hey. Hi. Yeah, hey Nathan. How's it going? Oh my God. Are you feeling energized and fueled from eating my fish? Oh. Oh. Did that happen? I'm like 40% sure that, that.
Starting point is 00:18:18 He doesn't know what happened. It doesn't matter. 40% is not a good success rate, Nathan. Don't finish that sentence. Terrible percentage. Look, look, I don't know if that happened or not, but if it did happen, it's probably because you got that promotion and we
Starting point is 00:18:33 got all those free drinks. Oh. That is rich. You are blaming me because you got so shit-faced. You ate my fish. Yeah, well, look, I don't really know if I want to take the rap for something. I don't know if I really did or not. You know, at the end of the day, you could have eaten it. Oh no.
Starting point is 00:18:53 Megan, did you consider that? I ate my fish. Oh my god. Is this a goldfish mail situation? Why are you jumping to like being horrified and really sorry right now? He's confused I think. Look, I don't know what happened that night, okay, but all I know is that we have a chance we can do a do-over. Sorry about the fix. Oh, I heard his voice.
Starting point is 00:19:18 You are off your rocker, man. Are you kidding me? He apologized. He admits maybe mistakes have been made. Maybe, maybe. I love that he apologized after he blamed her. Yeah, I love that. Look, I'll tell you this, Megan. We've been doing this segment for a long time, and in the history of it,
Starting point is 00:19:35 we've had four people get married after one person ate the other person's pet. We had a lot of people get married. You could be lucky number five. This is the first time we've had anyone ever eat another person's pet, Jeff. No, that's a cool way to meet that. Oh my god.
Starting point is 00:19:49 Nathan shut up. That's a story for the Thanksgiving dinner table if there ever was one. This is officially the worst date I've ever been on. Oh, you can't say that. You can't say that until you go on one more date and get them the chance to lower the bar even farther. That's gonna be a funny wedding story. Yeah, I think I'm good because the only other thing I don't want to be eaten personally. And get him the chance to lower the bar even farther Because the only other thing I don't want to be personally
Starting point is 00:20:26 I have a better idea Alexis. She's not ordering Cleo. Oh Cleo, sorry. I insulted the dead. A Cleo roll. No. Just a normal first date without all the heavy drinking and you guys can give it a redo. I'm actually horrified that you suggested that. Yeah. You know what?
Starting point is 00:20:42 Jeff stands on his own on that one. That was all his idea. We do not endorse it. Okay, fine. You're right. Maybe I was a little bit insensitive to Cleo. But I'm going to step away now. I'm done defending the listeners. Nathan, you have one final chance to win Megan over. Go ahead. Megan, would you like to hang out again? That's it? That's it. Good. To the point. No, no. Read the rooms. You should have re-apologized out again First look there's really no proof that I did that if you want to hang out again What would the proof be that is even grosser All right, it's Nathan it's sounding like it's a no
Starting point is 00:21:26 I think you need to take a break from drinking. Yeah. You need to detox. I don't need a break from drinking. She needs a break from getting promoted. Oh. Oh. Okay. That'll teach you, Megan.
Starting point is 00:21:34 It's her success that did her in. Yeah. That did you in. Maybe I'll learn my lesson. Oh, finally. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Having similar hobbies is a green flag. Yeah. It's good to have common interests. Finally. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Having similar hobbies is a green flag.
Starting point is 00:21:47 It's good to have common interests. Like you both enjoy the same type of movies. Or you both have kissed the same teachers. What kind of flag is it if two people bond over this show? Stop the sound effects. That's a good thing. I don't know. people bond over this show. No, not the sound effects. That's a good thing, dude. I think it's accurate.
Starting point is 00:22:09 Knives actually come out. No, we love people that bond over us. We're fun. It's fun, but it's ill-advised. Because one of our listeners says he took it as a huge plus that the woman he met online actually knew who we were and listened all the time. Dude, that's awesome.
Starting point is 00:22:23 Thank you, Boles. But any true fan would know, if someone tells you they actually enjoy this trainwreck, they are not to be trusted. Uh-oh. Sadly, he learned that the hard way, because now he can't even get her on the phone. Uh-oh. So we're gonna find out what happened between our listener couple in your second date update right after this. Listener couple in your second date update right after this
Starting point is 00:22:46 second date update They say where there's a will there's a way There's a guy named will on the phone right now, so I'm hoping there's a way we can help him with a second date up That is the most literal translation of that Was that the laziest intro I've ever done? I don't care. So you have given up. It may have been your best, man. Seriously.
Starting point is 00:23:12 But Brooke promises to care enough for everybody here. Oh, you know me. So Will, welcome to the show. Hello, thanks for having me. I've lost interest again. He's on the phone and he needs us. Yeah, okay, no. I'm here but Brooke you can run it go ahead. Okay Well, what's going on? Who'd you go out with?
Starting point is 00:23:36 Tell us about the girl that you went on a date with what's her name what I just said I said I said it Marley Marley Marley we met on a dating app we matched What did you like about her well you know I liked what I saw nice Well it's nice that he liked that he saw not what he smelled Take it for a test drive. Aww. You're not that type of guy, come on. No, really what did you like about her?
Starting point is 00:24:14 Uh, no I find collarbones very attractive and in one of her photos she had a low cut dress and um, was really doing it for me. Nice. Are you sure they're real and not implant collarbones? low cut dress and um, is really doing it for me. Are you sure they're real and not implant collarbones? Oh, you know what? I've never heard of implant collarbones, but no, these look real. It is a trend. Brooke has been looking into getting one for herself, but sounds like the job she got was good though. He can't notice. Yeah. All right. So she's got a good collarbone on her. Very aerodynamic. I don't know what you look for.
Starting point is 00:24:44 I know it's kind of bird-like. Anything else? She's got a good collarbone on her. Very aerodynamic. I don't know what you look for in that. I know, it's kind of bird-like. Anything else? Um, you know, I don't really have a type, but lately I've been attracted to redheads and she's a redhead. Oh, redheads have the nicest hair. Yeah, totally. But they also can't go out in the sun.
Starting point is 00:24:57 If you're burning or beat a lunge or something. It wasn't a beach date, I'll tell you that much. A redhead with a nice collarbone, so I'm picturing like Lindsay Lohan, Carol Burnett type here. Now that we know kind of what she looks like, tell us about what you and Marlee did. So I decided to go to a sporting event. Okay, was that something you guys had in common? Like was that a common interest? Yeah, I mean she's pretty outdoorsy and sporty, so we talked about it and I said, let's go watch some football. And at the very least, we'll buy some overpriced food and some overpriced beer.
Starting point is 00:25:31 You actually took her to a game game, not just like a sports bar. Well, I tried to take her to a game game, but what do you mean? What does that mean? We didn't end up going. I triple confirmed with her because we got good seats, not the nosebleeds. Yeah. Expensive. Dude, that's dropping some money on a first date.
Starting point is 00:25:51 Yeah, you know, it's good to go home. But I was like, I'm going to make sure she's definitely coming. And she said, I'm definitely coming. I was like, great. And then about 30 minutes before we're supposed to meet up, I get a text from her saying, Hey, sorry, I don't think I can go dude I'm sorry I'd be mad yeah did she give a reason why no I followed up I said you mean you can't like is everything okay even lie that a
Starting point is 00:26:21 grandmother died or something seriously and like pity offer to pay for your ticket, you know Alexis would actually She do that did she offer to pay for the ticket she didn't text me back I ended up just sitting at the game by myself How good is that collarbone God Why do you want to talk to her? I mean, I want to know why she didn't go Is that why you just want to figure it out? I mean, I want to know but maybe there was something crazy that happened and she didn't feel comfortable telling cuz sometimes You know, it's like you wait too long and then like how do I even explain this? She's like, this is embarrassing I'm a season ticket holder. She's season ticket oh sorry I have better see yeah
Starting point is 00:27:09 she doesn't like the team I mean Alexis would you say no if you hated the team I'll put on any jersey and cheer for anyone. It's free drinks, free food, basically. Did she apologize? She has not replied. I texted her, I think, four times since then, one of which being like, hey, maybe football, wasn't it? Do you want to try something else? She's ghosting you on purpose, bro. Wow. Yeah. Well, funny story. One of our commonalities is that we bonded over both liking your show like we oftentimes
Starting point is 00:27:48 Listen to Brooke and Jeffrey. So Yes, maybe it's a good thing that she's not calling you back then When we call her she's gonna know she's gonna know how Know you're on the phone. Unless we disguise our voices. I can do many impressions. Who else can? No. Why did you open that?
Starting point is 00:28:09 We did a British accent one time and I think it went off swimmingly. What if we're Australian tonight? Crook crooky! It's really up to Will. I mean, I would love to hear your impression. No, God, you know! He is a true fan. He's lost all his brain cells.
Starting point is 00:28:22 We just want us to look like idiots. Actually if I think about it, she might be more willing to talk to us if she's a fan and knows who we are. Maybe she'll get to the bottom of it or she won't pick up. I mean we've recorded a bunch of people hanging up on us, but we haven't aired those ones recently. We can do a compilation of hangups if it doesn't work out. We only air those when people stop answering.
Starting point is 00:28:46 Whatever happens it's going to be some high quality radio when we come back and call Marley to do your second date update right after this. I'm Andrea Gunning, host of the podcast Betrayal. Police Lieutenant Joel Kern used his badge to fool everyone, most of all his wife Caroline. Joel Kern used his badge to fool everyone. Most of all, his wife, Caroline. He texted, I've ruined our lives. You're going to want to divorce me. Caroline's husband was living another life behind the scenes. He betrayed his oath to his family and to his community. She said you left bruises, pulled her hair, that type of thing.
Starting point is 00:29:25 No. How far would Joel go to cover up what he'd done? You're unable to keep track of all your lies. And quite frankly, I question how many other women may bring forward allegations in the future. This season of Betrayal investigates one officer's decades of deception, lies that left those closest to him questioning everything they thought they knew. Listen to Betrayal on the iHeart Radio
Starting point is 00:29:49 app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, platinum selling artist, Danity King alum Aubrey O'Day joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation. Aubrey O'Day is sitting next to us here. You are, as we sit here, right up the street from where the trial is taking place. Some people saw that you were going to be in New York and they immediately started jumping to conclusions. So can you clear that up?
Starting point is 00:30:21 First of all, are you here to testify in the Diddy Trial? Aubrey will offer her opinions and expertise based on her firsthand knowledge. From her days on Making the Band as she emerged as the breakout star, the truth of the situation would be opposite of the glitz and glamor. It wasn't all bad, but I don't know that any of the good was real.
Starting point is 00:30:41 I went through things there. Listen to Amy and TJ Presents presents Aubrey O'Day, covering the Diddy Trial on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Second date update. If you're just joining us for the second date update, we've got Will on the phone who was supposed to go out with a girl named Marley.
Starting point is 00:31:04 And I know what you're thinking, Brooke. Why am I playing this music instead of the theme song to the movie Marley and Me? Oh, because that's about a dog and it's the saddest movie ever. I know, I thought about it. True, the end is pretty depressing and we're hoping for a happier outcome here today.
Starting point is 00:31:21 So you're gonna go, I'll be missing you, Puff Daddy and Faye Devons? It's, you know, it's still like she didn't show up to the date so you gotta have a little bit of truth sadness in there. This song has a lot of dead themes to it too. Well I bring it up because Jose's dad has a theory of what happened. Oh! She's dead. Oh yeah, she's probably dead. So that's one theory out there that would explain a lot, but Brooke. What are your thoughts? Most likely she could be
Starting point is 00:32:01 Very well in alive. Yeah, strong possibilities out there. Okay, that's all we're looking for now Hope that we want Okay Now we're on an upswing here before we dial Marley is there anything else that you want to say before we call her will No, I just I'm one answers. Oh, what's happening? Why she's not getting back to me. Yeah You are way more chill than I would be if I would have purchased a football ticket for somebody and then that person didn't show Up there would be no chill in me Just your friend. Yeah Yeah, that stadium would be in flames by the time
Starting point is 00:32:37 We'll see if we can get that money back for you here when we call her or Maybe that was a little bit ambitious. I shouldn't have said that. No Brooke will pay you though. Here we go. I'm dialing Marley right now. And remember, she apparently is a fan of the show. So she should know who we are when we call. we're broken. Jeffrey in the morning. She's alive. Hey, Marley. Oh my gosh. Wait, for real?
Starting point is 00:33:09 Yeah. We're all here. Welcome to the show, Marley. How you doing? I love you guys. Why are you? Did I win something? No, you didn't.
Starting point is 00:33:17 You didn't. You didn't. You didn't. You didn't. You didn't. You didn't. You didn't. You didn't. You didn't. You didn't. You didn't. You didn't. Oh my gosh
Starting point is 00:33:32 How you doing I love you guys why are you did I win something like what's going on absolutely not Yeah, no, that's the thing in the past but something we still are doing on the show is a second date update. Hey. What? Oh, no. Yeah. Oh, no way. Yeah. Your moment to shine, Marley. Yeah, you know what that means. You went on a date recently and somebody like, well, I guess you didn't go on a date recently. No. No.
Starting point is 00:33:57 You missed the date, Marley. Yeah. Is this really happening? I'm on the radio with you guys about this. Oh, man. No. Marley. Well, it's a specialty. Dude, the guy had with you guys about this. Oh man. Marley. Dude, the guy had a football ticket for you.
Starting point is 00:34:08 Yeah, we heard the whole story from Will and so obviously he's disappointed that you no-showed to the game. Well, you gave him a 30 minute heads up. You texted him 30 minutes. He said before the game. So do you have any explanation? Yeah, I mean, je geez, I don't know. Like, okay, what do I say here?
Starting point is 00:34:31 Like, I don't know. I guess at the end of the day, I just don't like going out with liars. What? Why are you saying he's a liar? Well, I was excited to spend time with him. It seemed like we really vibed on the app and I was getting ready for the date. It was while I was getting ready, I started doing this thing lately
Starting point is 00:34:56 that's been really helpful. Actually, I got this idea from listening to your show, which is... Oh no. Oh, this can't be good. Never good. What did we tell you? You know, sometimes people will repeat what we say and I'm like, do we? We said that.
Starting point is 00:35:11 Yeah. How would we tell people that? What advice did you take from us? I think this is a really good idea. You guys suggested using AI to help out with dating and it's like this thing where you put a guy's photo into chat GBbt and it calculates their height oh oh we did talk about that we talked about that how that was a trend you could figure out how tall guys were because the photo would analyze like what's in the background and where their
Starting point is 00:35:38 so you you did that yeah so he put in his profile that he's six foot, but Chad GBT said that he's probably five seven. He's a short king. I thought it was gonna be just under. He's a short king. Thanks for using the proper terminology, bro. There's nothing wrong with five foot seven. Five foot seven is respectable.
Starting point is 00:35:58 No, but she's upset he's lying. Yeah, exactly. Like, I'm sure he's listening right now. Maybe, maybe. Don't tell her. Is it because you won't date anyone under six foot? Because I know a lot of women have that rule and it's dumb. It's a dumb rule. You're missing out on short guys. No, I'm not superficial like that. Like I'm five seven, so we would be the same height.
Starting point is 00:36:20 And I'm not like against that. But the thing is, like, if he was truthful, I definitely would have gone on the date. Maybe if you're on your knees looking up at him. He's six foot tall At least it looks that way Really appears Sitting down That's what I meant, okay You guys are turning me into a pervert over here Working against you. All right. Sorry. She was talking so it's the it's the lie
Starting point is 00:36:54 I mean like like I said, I'm five seven and I say I'm five seven on my profile. Like why did guys lie? Okay. Well, the only way that we can know that is by asking will and like you said he is on the other line You know he's there listening to this. It's not a surprise so awkward Okay, but will it's time to jump in and say hi to Marley Yep What's going on well Marley is telling us that she AI fact-check your picture in that I know the suggestion came from our show So I'm sorry if we're busting you on this Can you just tell us well are you five foot seven like chat GPT says or are you six foot like you claim in your profile?
Starting point is 00:37:45 Well, I'll tell you what Chad GBT is completely off and I am taller than Marley so they're Really? Yeah, are you six foot or is that an exaggeration? Actually five eight, okay Chad GPT was more honest than your profile. Oh man. Come on! To his defense, Marley, if he would have said he was 5'8", would he showed up in your algorithm?
Starting point is 00:38:18 I don't have a height limit on my filters or anything like that. Okay, but what way would you have swiped if you saw five eight? Um, I don't know. I mean, he's cute. He says it all. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:33 So he's cute enough that I would have looked into it. If I just saw the numbers and I wasn't interested, then I would have swiped because of the numbers, but I was drawn in by other parts of his profile for sure. Okay. Yeah. And then our personality clicked. of the numbers, but I was drawn in by other parts of his profile for sure. Okay. Yeah. And then our personality clicked.
Starting point is 00:38:47 And then because I said that I was six foot, my foot got in the door quite literally. That's a bad pun or whatever it is. It worked. But you have to understand that I've had issues with men lying in the past and that's just like an instant deal breaker for me and Even now you're kind of like defending being dishonest. I feel like at some point before we met up you should have you know Made sure I knew what I was really looking for. I didn't want to look right over your head Do you feel bad at all though that homie watched a whole game by himself wasted hundreds of dollars and still wants to go out with you.
Starting point is 00:39:25 Do you feel bad? He seems sincere in his apology. And the good news is we've hashed all this out now. So maybe that allows us to close the door on this kind of ugly chapter of the relationship and open the door to the next positive one. Unless there's something else you've lied about. Yeah, are you a fool, catfish? Tell us now? He has not seen you in person yet, so my pictures are accurate there five eight accurate Make sure they're accurate in person bring a tape measure to the day Pay for the date and the tape measure to me. I'll send you a photo with me holding a newspaper from today, how about that? Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:40:08 Wait, you get a newspaper? How old are you? Oh, wait a minute. Oh. I'll be honest, I'm gonna be wary and skeptical, but the fact that you have the confidence to address it on air like this and reach out to me this way is kind of a turn on,
Starting point is 00:40:23 I'll be honest. Hey! Oh my God, she's turned on! Oh my God, our kind of a turn on, I'll be honest. Hey! Oh my god, she's turned on! Oh my god, our show's a turn on! Wow! Look at all this positive news. I mean, you don't get your money back, Will, but at least you get another date to spend more money on her.
Starting point is 00:40:35 Hooray! I get to spend more money on a date. No, no, we pay. Yeah, don't we pay? Oh yeah! Wait, are we buying tickets? Up to $25. You enjoy, Will.
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