Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - Second Date Update Classics: Recreate the Scene + Lifetimes of Love

Episode Date: July 12, 2025

Part 1One of our listeners decided his goal was to bring the magic of RomComs to his dating life...Now we need to help him finish his love story!Part 2The guy on the phone says one text before the date started changed their ENTIRE NIGHT—Find out what it was in your Second Date Update. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Enjoy the next two classic second date updates. The most disappointing thing about a good romcom is knowing that relationships aren't like that in real life. I mean, when I've been walking down the street and like a gorgeous woman has only tripped and fallen directly into my arms like four or five times Then there was that one time I accidentally swapped bodies with a 13 year old in a lightning storm

I I became a kid for a week while they dated my girlfriend Other than that never never happen never never becomes reality Never never happens never never becomes reality No, but today one of our listeners decided his goal was to bring the magic of rom-coms to his dating life And he went all out with it. You're gonna hear it in your second date update right after this second date update Man we've been hearing from our listeners Especially in the last couple years that the dating landscape is more bleak than ever Like this is the theme song for it Jeff. You know what I do appreciate the guys out there who aren't backing down and aren't giving up

Sure, it's tough for them to land a date, but when they do they get creative with it the land of date, but when they do, they get creative with it. I love that. They plan out like a dumpster diving dinner date. Oh, we did have that. Yeah, that was misguided effort. But unique or a blindfolded romantic trust walk across a freeway. Okay. Oh dang.

Nothing brings you together like that type of experience. Or very far apart, depending on who gets hit. Well, it'll bring you together in the same of experience or very far apart depending on who gets hit It'll bring you together in the same hospital room And one of our listeners Ben said he went creative with his date idea and before we even hear it Brooke's gonna give her sign of approval just for trying Whenever you ask for my approval before I hear something it's usually because something is not a good idea I don't even know what the date is. Oh, you don't okay, then I think it's good for you Ben. I love that Sorry, I thought I was getting tricked by Jeffrey that happens a lot on this show

No, I just don't trust him We want to hear what was this creative date idea that you came up with We want to hear what was this creative date idea that you came up with So in order to understand this date you kind of have to understand like how we bond it. Okay So Amanda and I we met on an app and we bonded over movies Like we both really love movies if you were about to say you took her to the movie theater and that's a strange part Hang up on him theater and that's a strange part. Hang up on him. Oh, no. Hang up on him. We don't know. But.

But yeah, so I had this idea that our first date would be like a movie theme. A movie theme date, not going to the movies, but movie theme. What does that mean? Right. Well, I thought about it. I wanted to have something to be memorable. And so I thought, well, like maybe we could I could pick a movie where where we had that experience in date form Okay, so you did Air Force one together and hijacked a plane

Well, yeah, I was thinking like date movies, but I like your ideas too What'd you go with I decided to do like different movie scenes because I couldn't think of a whole movie from start to finish So make a good date okay so what you pick recreating famous date movie scenes like iconic scenes from movies like for example the first thing we did was we had a Shrek themed picnic in a swamp. I think that's a cute thing. Of course Brooke thinks a swamp date is cute. I think as long as she figures out the movie associated with it. Oh, yeah. Oh, she got it. She got it almost right away.

Well, it helped. I was talking like Shrek, too. You know, it's doing my Shrek voice. So what was next? What happened after the Shrek picnic? Then I wanted to do like an activity and there was this pottery studio right around the corner from the pond. Oh, my God. Like Patrick Swayze ghost style? Yes! Is that what you're thinking?

Sexy pottery. That's exactly it. So we had the potter wheel. Well hold on, did you die and come back as a ghost first in order to do this properly? Was your shirt off? No, I kept my shirt on. Oh man. You didn't awkwardly go behind her, did you?

No. I had a joke. Maybe I did, but you her, did you? I had guide her hands. Maybe I did, but you know, it wasn't weird or anything. Oh my gosh. What was her response? So I think she said, are you really doing this? I said, yeah, I mean. All right.

Are you really doing this as in like, wow, this is impressive. Are you seriously going through this much effort? Toland's gonna be really important on that sentence and unfortunately we cannot recreate that. I'm gonna assume that she loved it. I thought she was into it. She even said that Ghost was one of her favorite movies. Oh she did. Well that bugs well. She said was as in past tense.

Take us to the third and final love scene. What was the movie you went with there? Well, so at the end, I had a couple of options. Oh, okay. Let her choose. So I told her like we could do the dirty dancing lift. Oh! Oh wow.

Dancing! That could end bad. Are you even physically capable of that? I think I could take her. I think I could. I think I could take her. Take her, okay. Did Did you really lean into these Patrick Swayze scenes? Yeah. What was the other option? You know what I thought would be a really,

really cool special moment is the upside down kiss from Spider-Man. Oh wow. I thought that would be the perfect way to end off the day Yeah, how would you do that hold her upside down there was a tree out there You really hang upside down from a tree well, which one did she choose actually she didn't choose either one of those She recommended that we do the handshake scene from Wolf of Wall Street. Oh, I don't know. I don't remember that. I know a lot of scenes, but not the handshake. In other words, she just gave me a handshake.

It was a very firm handshake. All right. So is that how you guys left it with a firm handshake? Yeah, yeah, that was it. And she thanked me for the date. She thought it was really cool and thoughtful. And and I told her I'd like to see her again. And she said, yeah, let's see if we can make that happen. We just went over a list of things that people say that they don't really mean.

And that was one of the top ones. It really honestly was. It was like, yeah, we'll totally get together. Yeah. Sure. Have you contacted her? I texted her and I messaged her in the app and I haven't heard from her. Well, I haven't heard back from her and so that's why I was, you know, hoping you guys can help me hook up that Spider-Man kiss. Yeah, I mean you put in a lot of effort. Whether or not we agree that they were great ideas or not, just the effort alone is worth another shot.

I mean, or even this, he's on a radio show to get her back. Like this is a lot of effort. Oh, what movie is that from? It Feels like it should be a movie theme. Oh, is that Sleepless? Sleepless in Seattle, she calls into a radio show. Oh, she does. We're going to go full Sleepless on this, girl, when we do your second date update. Oh, I do kind of remember that now.

We're going to hook you up on top of the Empire State Building when we come back. At least a space needle. The end is definitely Empire State Building. Oh, the end is. Can we pick a new movie? I mean, something closer. Can we pick a new movie? I mean, just you haven't seen it? No.

Alexis, leave the room. We're going to do a second date update right after this. Second date update. Three romantic movie scenes recreated in one very steamy date. Steamy because of the pond next to them. Yeah, a lot of moisture coming up Our listener Ben bonded with a woman named Amanda over their shared love of cinema So he thought it'd be fun to recreate the swamp picnic from the Shrek movie It's actually really cute the pottery scene from ghost

Oh, and after she rejected the upside-down Spider-man kiss They settled on a regular handshake. Okay, business like wolf of Wall Street. That's right hot Now did something happen in the middle of all that stuff because those movie scenes sounded really great But Ben I need to ask you when you were reaching around her at the pottery place You were feeling normal, at the pottery place, you were feeling normal, right? Oh God, Jeff. What?

Oh yeah, yeah, totally. Is that what you mean? Well, Brooke, you know how these go. I mean, that would get him. We have never asked that question before. But you understand the physical reaction that pottery has on a man. Okay, no, Jeff. When you stick your hands into that clay,

you can't control what your body does. Okay. It does for me. What happened in your art class in high school, Jeffrey? I don't wanna know. Well, I'll ask my art teacher to send you the video if you're really that interested. Oh, there's videos.

Yes. That's so stupid. Ben, it was all kosher in the pottery place? It was just pottery. Okay, okay. Good, good, that's the best answer actually pottery is really hard yeah they feel like that bro yeah i know right go on girl sure it is all right i bet it's difficult like i've taken a pottery class before i think a lot of us are

feeling hot right now so we better just call her do not say anything like this to her. Let's get more people in on this action. I'm dialing Amanda right now. Here we go. Hello? Hey, we're looking to speak with Amanda. This is she. Hey, Amanda. My name is Jeff. You're on the radio right now with a show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Hey, Amanda. Hello, Amanda. Good Jeff. You're on the radio right now with a show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Hey Amanda.

Hello Amanda, good morning. Don't hang up. Hi. Hi. Hey, you're pretty chill. She's cool. We're chill too, Amanda. What's up? We're doing a segment called a second date update, which is where we try and help out our listeners after they've gone out with somebody and they'd like to see them again

Try and figure out if there's a reason why the second meetup hasn't happened yet Okay Okay, and so the guy that reached out to us about you his name is Ben Okay Yeah, does that make sense? That doesn't make sense Okay, okay cool so Basically, we have heard from Ben about your guys's Recreate a movie date. Yeah, he put a lot of thought and energy into it cuz he was really excited about you

Yeah, so I don't know how many details he gave you We heard Shrek ghost and then you guys settled on a wolf of Wall Street thing Yes, it's ghost pottery Like creative and cute and like did like that Yeah, but he had told me that the last thing was gonna be a surprise so she wasn't gonna like tell me until the end and He kept bringing up during the other dates Like you know we could stop this right now and just do pretty woman

He pays you for your services He's a businessman and she's a hooker. No, no, no, he wanted to be the person who took you shopping. That's probably what he meant, right? I remember it was a classy hooker. Yeah, she's very respectable in that movie. I mean, he wanted to kiss. They don't kiss in Pretty Woman. Even if he did mean, I want to take you shopping shopping That's a strange thing for a first date and like it was already pretty elaborate you guys it was a first date like I just Met this guy

So wait you're upset that he brought up pretty woman because that made you feel used is that what it is It just was a little oogie. Okay His intentions didn't feel great. Yeah, but ogre swamp picnic felt right to you multiple References to that you guys yeah, I see what you're feeling young people call it the ick Yeah, from the pretty woman. She called it the oggy, okay? I think the oggy and the ick are very similar. Yeah, well this is a glit up the oggy before the And the egg are very similar. Yeah

Before they well When I don't want to like bring up any more icky oogie feelings But I do need to tell you that Ben is on the other line right now listening to this conversation And he doesn't want to talk to you Benny there I am here and let me tell you, I feel exactly like the guys from Dude Where's My Car right now. What does that mean? You're hungover? You can't read the tattoo on your back?

Your eye? Like, what do you mean by that? Like, I'm just totally confused, you know? I would have gotten Dazed and Confused or something then. You know, like, I don't know. Add confused in the title. Why are you so confused? Well, I just had no idea.

When I suggested Pretty Woman, I mean, I was thinking about the romance element, you know? The fact that these two people really hit it off and fell in love. I forgot she was a prostitute. That's not why I was bringing that up. No one forgets, bro. That's not why I was bringing that up You could have chosen something better well it definitely was not my intention. I was not trying to

Imply that you were a prostitute in any way It's always a good thing. I don't know how many times I've said that to my name. Yeah. I was not trying to imply that. Okay. I totally get it. Are you hearing him, Amanda? Do you see where he is coming from? I don't know how you forget that part. Yeah, the escort thing.

Yeah. That's kind of the key plot. So wait, are you not believing him, Amanda? Is that the issue? Yeah, I guess not. Okay. Well, you got to look on the bright side, Amanda. At least he didn't bring up Silence of the Lambs.

Yeah, thank you. And turn you into dinner. That's true. There was no lotion or skin. Like, there were no buckets involved in the date. I appreciate that. Okay. See? Now we're thinking positive here.

I also kind of meant it as a compliment because I think you are a pretty woman. That's what Alexis just said, bro. She can hear what she's saying too. So this is a little bit awkward right now. It's a little, yeah. But the way that we can make this all better is if Amanda you're willing to give Ben one more chance at another date You could pick any other movie scene that you want to do or just a non movie You could do a do-over and do 50 first dates, you know where he forgets every time or 50 shades of first dates

Hey! Oh wow Now we're talking It's not the title but Let's go back to that pottery room Well, you know Yeah So

If you guys are gonna send us to Hawaii, then I'm in. We had the money. We'll pay for the taxi to the airport, then you handle the rest. Oh yeah, then ten miles. But Ben, do you have another date idea if she says yes? Does it have to be movies? Yes. I mean, that's how they bonded.

Movies are kind of our thing, I don't know I mean, I thought I'd really like to do like a basic instinct a Scary stalker, isn't it? He meant it as like she's pretty she's beautiful I'm pretty sure that's the one where she's naked. Oh wow, I gotta watch this. Sounds fun. So Ben, I'm gonna ask you again, maybe try something different, maybe a little bit more romantic this time. What movie? You started with Shrek, dude.

Yeah dude, go some cute. What movie did you have in mind for that second date, bud? I'll be honest, I keep thinking about this, but I don't know how we could turn it into a date, but my favorite movie is pulp fiction Scene the swing dance scene. All right, you know Ben I think Then I think your heart is in the right place for sure, but your mind is I mean I just like a lot of movies. I just like your mind is sc mean I just like a lot of movies I just like a lot of your mind is scaring her though Ben so is she even on the phone? I don't know Amanda. Are you still there?

Yeah, I'm not sure why Well Amanda, I'm sorry for all of this but best of luck in the dating pool then you got a lot of work to do Just rom-coms dude. Yeah. Or animated. Yeah, I could try that I guess. I am really super disappointed though. I did put a lot of work into that. And that's, I don't know if she remembers,

but my outfit at the picnic was very reminiscent of Shrek. And I just, you know, I feel like I should give credit. Ben, the good news is a lot of single women are hearing this right now. And running? At least they heard it. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.

You know what, that could have been a really sweet second date. So close to rom-com perfection, but he ended up being weird. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it wasn't subtle. Like we, I see you slipping in movies there, but not subtly at all. I mean, and she tried.

She tried to like it. She tried to get on with it. And then she's like, no, my gut is telling me that something's off. But you know what? I do believe there is a woman out there somewhere right now thinking When is a guy finally gonna treat me like a high-priced? I

Deserve that that's my dream I'm telling you somebody out there for everybody and we can help you find them email the show We can call that person who's not calling you back and go check out all of our second dates wherever you get your podcast at Brooke and Jeffrey Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning And don't you hate it when you're having a normal conversation with someone that you're interested in and then out of the blue They say yeah I had a good weekend too other than getting arrested for selling

smuggled chinchillas on the black market. Other than that, totally normal. It's hard to know how to react properly to something that's shocking. True, that's exactly how our listener Vincent felt when he got a text from his date right before they were supposed to go out And immediately it changed everything You're gonna find out what she said in your second date update right after this second date update Does it change your mentality if you're going out on a date with someone and you find out they went to Harvard? Like a community college or something or book school. I gotta tell a whole different set of jokes on this date. I imagine immediately trust fund kid.

Yeah. Is that bad? Yeah. Well, I know it's bad but yeah. I was thinking lately blonde quotes. Oh. Okay, yeah. I see where you're coming from.

Like if I matched with a woman who was a Harvard grad. I know what I'm thinking What do you she can do my taxes? Oh? Bring my quick into the restaurant so that she can take care of that for me while she handles our bill You know they still have communications majors there, right? But no seriously it is possible to get a little intimidated before the date even happens. And apparently that was the case for one of our listeners, Vincent. But it had nothing to do with the school that she attended. Vincent, what did you get intimidated by?

Hi, y'all. So I met this girl on an app, Blair, and she texted me beforehand that she was gonna be running late because she had a therapy session that was going long. Okay. Oh, okay. Well, that's actually a good thing, so.

Well, so I replied, are you in therapy? And she said, no, she's the therapist. Oh, boy. Oh my God, I am so with you. Oh boy. Yeah. Even I am. Now it's intimidating.

I have friends that are therapists and every time I leave a conversation, I'm like, they were judging me. I just know it. I remember talking to a girl on Tinder once and she's like, yeah, I'm a therapist, but don't worry, I won't analyze you. And I'm like, yeah, right.

You don't get to say that, yes you will. Is that how you felt, Vincent? Yeah, I mean, you guys hit the nail on the head. I was immediately nervous that she was going to be, you know, smart and analytical. And I actually changed the location. I texted her a different address to like a nicer, more upscale bar. She's not just breaking down you as a person. She's breaking down all of the choices that she made too. So probably a good call.

It's so funny. Did it make you more nervous? Oh, for sure. Yeah, I mean, I actually started to feel hyper aware and I think I just like fixated on everything I was saying. And I just think I came off weird. Okay. You were uncomfortable.

So you still did go out on the date then? Yeah, we met in person and she was really beautiful and nice and like very warm. Okay. And did you get an invoice for your session? Well, she actually made a joke just like that. She said, uh, I was listening a lot and she was talking and maybe she should pay me. Oh, that's cute. Oh, that's a big compliment. Yeah.

Were you like trying to be really listening and attentive to her, or was that an accident? An accident? Or it could be just how he is as a person, Jeff. No, I feel like it's out of fear that she'll notice any red flags that comes out of his mouth. Sometimes I go in wanting to be super confident, and then I say nothing.

And I'm like, oops. Is that the case? I did try to listen more than I spoke. But then as soon as she called it out, I and I opened up a little bit more. And then, OK, if I'm being honest, then I started to like talk about my own childhood. I had no idea how I got into it. It was OK. But childhood can be a common topic on a first date, right?

Yeah. Where you grew up and. Or if you were both being like self-deprecating, I go, what was the vibe? Yeah. Although I would say something that I think was like self deprecating and she inquire more about it scary you wanted to laugh there yeah so anyway I just sort of feel like maybe if I had been less worried and just more relaxed and if you're so intimidated by her do you want to go out with her again like you think you can get rid of those nerves you know maybe after one day the nerves are gone and now you feel like you're comfortable.

I honestly wish I could do a redo I could I really think that if I just took myself out of the equation we would have a nice time. Okay if I wasn't there it would have been fantastic. So I don't want to think this for you But is it possible that maybe you said too much about your childhood and the things you were into and the animals you used to cut up and sew back together Yeah, well, I'll go put a zipper on a squirrel That's one of those three sides of the serial killer. I think that's one.

Not the right person to be talking about this. Her uncle would have got a second chance. I'm saying, do you think you delved too deep into your own childhood with her? I don't think so. There's no squirrels with zippers in my past. Okay. Yeah, I'm not as messed up as that lady. Okay, that's where the bars at. Well, it could be a totally different reason.

How long has it been since you talked to her? About a week ago. I mean, honestly, she's a career woman. Maybe she's just too busy. Probably. She's not even, no one's too busy to text them when they like, sorry. I'm just saying.

I mean, seriously. In a week. Yeah, that's sort of what I'm thinking too. Because I've asked her if she wants to go out again, and she'll get back to me. But she won't actually answer the going out part. Uh-oh. I bet she's so good at mind tricks.

Yeah. She's studied them at Harvard. Well, I'm excited to go mono-e-mono with her on the phone and maybe get myself some free therapy if she's up for it. Or even put it back on her and break her down live on the air. She's gonna cry. I wonder if she takes our company's insurance.

Ooh, okay, we're gonna ask her. I hope you're cool with that, Vincent. We're gonna take care of ourselves first and then try and get you a second date update right after this. Thanks, guys. Whatever works, I'm up for it. All right, man, hold on.

Second date update. If you're just joining us, our listener Vincent thinks he may have psyched himself out right before his first date started. Definitely sounds like it. Because earlier that day, he learned that Blair is a professional therapist That made him feel anxious Hesitant worried that she might be super analytical of him. He should have felt excited though

Really? I think everybody agreed that it was a little hard. Well, I've never had a therapy session end with my pants still on Oh Although That's not a good sign Well, I've never had a therapy session end with my pants still on Do pay extra for it There's a word therapy somewhere in there His though his date ended fully clothed with a little bit of oversharing into his childhood past so Wishes that he could get a redo on the whole thing. I think we've all been there where your mouth is just spewing out words and your head is like, no, don't say that.

Constantly, Brooke. Now, Vincent, if Blair does pick up here, we're not going to mention that her job like affected your mindset for the day. We don't want her to know that. Oh, really? Right. I don't think it'd be good to be honest with a therapist I think used to it. Yeah

Everybody it seems like she'd understand well at least we don't want to offer that up right off the bat Let's see how she felt about the date first. Are you cool with that Vince? Yeah, whatever the play is Okay I mean the thing is are you ready to be cool because eventually you will be on the phone with? We don't need any more childhood stories I'll try my best okay, well save an embarrassing one and toss it in there for us We're down for a little bit of juice, so we're gonna dial Blair right now. We'll see if she picks up. Good luck to us all. Here we go.

Hello. Hi, we're looking to speak with Blair. Yes, this is her. Hey Blair, how are you doing today? I'm doing well. How are you? Good morning. Hey Blair, welcome to the show.

So, who is this? Yeah, this is a radio show. We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning. Yeah. Ah, okay. What can I help you with? Well, we have a lot of problems and we're hoping that you can work through them with us. You just gotta pick one of us because it's gonna be a long time. But there is actually a really big issue

that we're looking to fix today, right now on the phone with one of our listeners that you went on a date with named Vincent. Oh, okay, this is very fascinating. Why would he contact you? Well, because he really had a good time with you, and he was hoping to see you again for another date but that hasn't materialized yet so he isn't sure if there's a reason why

yeah how can I help well maybe we could just start with what was your take on the date with Vincent how did you feel about it it was fine it fine seems like a good word for it he seemed like a pleasant guy Fine isn't usually a good word That's a good question, I mean he was a little nervous But aren't we all when we're first meeting somebody and that can actually be kind of endearing because it means that he cares, right? You get nervous when you meet people too Sometimes You get nervous when you meet people too? Sometimes He told you what I do for a living yeah, yeah, is that okay?

Yeah, of course he knows I'm a therapist, but he probably doesn't know I'm a past life regression therapist What's that? I help individuals access memories or experience from previous lifetimes to address current emotional and psychological spiritual issues So normal. No, because I've heard of people when they have breakthroughs, they'll be like, I unlocked this memory for my child. No, no, no, no. She's talking about a separate life.

Yeah, like when you were a king in the 1600s. Wait, she does therapy for other lives? Yes. That's not really gay. How that affects who you are in this new life. She almost got my money. I would have signed up immediately. OK, well, let's be polite.

This is her career. No, I'm sorry. I didn't understand fully. OK. So that's be polite. This is her career. No, I'm sorry, I didn't understand fully. Okay. So that's my apology. We did not know that. Some people don't understand it, but it is something I've been practicing

for over a decade. Okay. That's really specific. We did not know that specific. We just heard therapist. Yes. So wait, so what does that have to do though with why you weren't calling him back?

Well. Or are you just explaining that to us? I usually don't have a personal connection to people that I date but in this case I did I was home and really thought about it and I know this is going to sound silly I Believe in a past life. He was my dog Dog in a previous lifetime, I know Realization walk us through the steps. I had many memories of rubbing his belly him licking me like a dog, and I know it sounds silly, but what a coincidence. I mean, this is, I've been doing this a long time,

and I knew I felt some sort of connection, and I couldn't figure it out. He's such a good boy, he found you. After all timelines, he found you again. So is dating your past dog off? Yeah! The girls are not on! Off the table?

I think it's cute! Cause in Brooke's hometown, it's encouraged. I know you're having fun with Ed, and it seems weird. But what do I say? Like how do I tell him I can't date him? He was once my dog. I will say, to your credit, you have been a really good sport with us. Yeah. And we can tell you're not like messing with us. The good news is you don't have to figure out how to tell him because you already have. He's actually on the other line listening to this conversation.

Stay. Good boy. Good boy. He has been very well behaved during this entire thing. Vincent are you there? This is truly not where I thought this was going to be. None of us, bro, none of us. Dude. This is wild. Okay, talk to your previous owner, say hi. Hi, Blair. So you're saying that you had like visions

that I was your dog in another life? Yes, there's been multiple visions of me walking you around on a farm. Yeah, you didn't feel the connection either? I mean, I didn't put two and two together with a dog. Blair, do you have like a century or a decade when this previous life happened? Yes, this is way back.

This is the 1800s. Oh, the 18. Oh, oh, look at that. So you're a working dog at that point. You know, how come I'm a dog and you're a human in these visions? Was I not a human before? Do there's nothing wrong with being a dog? I mean, animals are such a sacred part of our living. And it's just, it's not something that you were once my dog. It's not something I'm now I will feel like

I'm walking the fields with you every time I see you. It's not something I want to have in my romantic relationships. It's not that he was a dog in a past life. It's that he was your dog This all makes sense to you right really that's the question Look, I need to see where his head is that or which ways tail is wagging. Yeah Are you understanding what she's saying? I'm I'm hearing it. I don't know if I'm understanding First question not what type of dog, but you can I mean I've been thinking about that Was popular back in the 1800s maybe a spaniel cattle dog Cattle dog. Cattle. A herder. Okay. Yeah, a sheep dog.

A lot of energy, those dogs. Vincent, you can understand where she's coming from. If you were in her position, you wouldn't want to date a woman who had previously been your fish or your cat or something, right? That'd be weird. This whole thing is weird. It's hard to believe. Yeah.

Yeah, what do you want him to say? I don't know. I want to date my old cat. You know? Come on. I mean, if you look at it from the other perspective, right? Like, dog is man's best friend, he's loyal, like these are all good qualities in a relationship.

This is Brooke advocating for a human dog? Yeah, I'm trying! I'm like, for her to give him a chance. Thank you, Brooke. Okay, so Vincent, you're still interested in dating Blair even though previously you used to be her pet. I mean, allegedly if I was her pet, I have no memory of it. Until you go through a session with her.

Yeah. No one's gonna lock it. That's her job. I can absolutely help you with that. We can book a session right now. Okay. Well, yeah, that's great. But what we're interested in booking is a date if you're willing to give Vincent another shot

Listen, you said we had a pleasant time Really don't think we can get past this. I Would love to have a connection, but I don't think it's best that we date But maybe she'd be willing to play fetch in the park with you one time No, I think I was a dog. No, I think you were probably a parrot, Jose. What? Oh, I see it.

Yeah. Yeah. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Man, as a dude, I thought being friend zoned is bad, but being pet zoned, that's way worse. Or do you call it past life zoned? I think it's a past life pet zoned. Oh, there it is. Yeah, it's very specific zoned? That's way worse. Or do you call it past life zoned? I think it's a past life pet zoned. Oh, there it is.

Yeah, it's very specific zoned. It is brutal. And there's nothing that you can even say as a guy in that position. Whether you believe it or not, it doesn't matter. In her mind, you're always just going to be that pet that she owned 200 years ago on that farm. Dude has been trying to hump her leg for hundreds of years. It must be hard to be her end date. Yeah.

Because it's like, it's enough to know about somebody's current life, let alone all of their other lives. Oh, they're bringing on the baggage from all their previous lives? Imagine being a successful doctor and she's like, yeah, but you were like a goat in the 1400s. Yeah. So don't get ahead of yourselves. I saw you eat garbage. It's going to be a tough road for her and for him, but we're always here to help either of them

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