Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - Second Date Update Classics: Strings of Deceit + Claus for Concern

Episode Date: November 15, 2025

Part 1 Sometimes just one photo can raise the reddest of red flags and that happened to one of our listeners. She noticed something on a guys profile pic and now she wants our help finding him and getting him to explain.  Part 2 One of our listeners swears he has a very good reason that’s totally “not sketch at all” for wanting to make sure his date location was EXTRA PRIVATE… We’re gonna hear him out in your Second Date Update.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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So thanks so much for being here. I hope you enjoy these. But before, we always love to highlight a comment. Yes. And Hannah said, the only way I can clean is if I'm listening to y'all. Then it's actually enjoyable. Thank you so much for making my cleaning enjoyable.

Love from Idaho. P.S., I laugh so hard when I hear my name in these second date updates. Oh, because there's some Hanna's. There's probably a lot of Hanna. Yeah, I can see that. Yeah, that's so funny. Your house looks great, girl. Oh, yeah.

You've got to be really shiny after this. Yeah, totally. Back-to-back classic, start right now. Alexis, I'm going to go through some dating profile pick options. You tell me if they're. immediate red flags or not. Okay, okay. Picture of a guy

hugging a dog. Oh, not a red flag. That's hot. That's safe, okay? Picture of a guy holding up a fish. Oh, that's red flag. That's red? Yeah, I don't like that.

What about picture of a guy kissing a fish while his dog spoons it from behind? Better than the last one, but still red. Okay. He's a light red. Okay.

The pink flag. I say green flag, but I get it. I'm not everybody. But he's kissing the wrong animal. That's true. I say talented dogs. Sometimes one photo can raise the reddest of all red flags and make you want to ask a few questions.

And that's exactly what happened to one of our listeners the other day when she noticed something odd on a guy's profile pick that made her say, if there is any chance of us going out, you need to explain this. Is it fish and trucks together? Because that'd be bad. No, spoilers. You're going to find out what it was in your second date update. Next. Second date update. You know on dating apps now, where the average decent looking woman gets 2,000 matches per day,

and that's like 2,000 guys messaging her and complimenting her, trying to take her out. It's more important than ever for guys to be creative and witty when they're talking, or at least Google something creative and witty, and then copy that like it's yours. So it's like, hi, how are you? not enough. Boo, you're getting blocked. No, that's creepy nowadays, Brooke. Yeah, no.

All lowercase letters. Ew. Gross. But that's exactly what happened to one of our listeners, May recently, when she matched with a guy online named Doug, and their conversation apparently got pretty interesting. Oh, that's cool. But his first line was just straight up asking her out,

and May, what did you immediately notice from Doug's dating profile? Well, there was a couple funny things on his profile. Well, when his pictures, he had a woman in it. Oh. Yeah. Bold? That's a bold thing to put on a dating up. Like a woman his age or like a mom type of person?

No, it seemed like like maybe a girlfriend. Oh, no. I see girls that do this too. And I always swipe left. I'm like, why would your main profile be you and some guys? No. To prove that you can actually go out with someone? Yeah.

So what did you write back when you saw that there's another woman in his pictures? Yeah. I frankly said, is your girlfriend going to be okay with this? Is your girlfriend going to? I can't believe you still wrote him back, you know, but like, okay. Give him a little sass back. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's good to call somebody out too.

Yeah. Did he have a response? Yeah, he responded that he doesn't have a girlfriend. Okay. I would believe him. That's a good point. Just trust whatever guys say online all the time. Trust the internet stranger.

So who is the woman? What did he say? she was. Yeah, what was the explanation? Right. So I obviously asked who's this woman in the photo, and he responds, oh, that's my wife, but we're just friends with a laughing emoji. Oh. What? That's so funny. Okay. Brooke, this is a joke. Oh, Alexis, it's called sarcasm. It's all humor and sarcasm. He doubled down. You don't have to down, like,

it's so demeaning. Like, don't even. That's so annoying. May, were you demeaned by that, or did you think it was funny? No, I thought it was funny. I obviously knew it was a joke. Oh, he didn't mansplain the joke after he said it. So that's cool, though? So you guys are on the same page? Yeah, I really liked his humor. And he did this other thing that I thought was really funny, too, is, you know, he was telling me that dating apps are really hard for guys. And in his experience, it's been tough.

Yeah. That he's ghosted so many times. Sorry, did you say that he's been ghosted, or he's been ghosted? has ghosted other people. He said that he's been ghosted. Oh, okay. But he really meant both. Yeah.

He's kind of a two-way street. He sent me a photo of him at a table by himself, laughing, and said at this point, he's started dating actual ghosts. Oh. Oh. Oh. It's a red flag. It's funny.

I think he's just thinking of it. He's being self-deprecating, saying, like, see, nobody wants to go out with me. It's a dangerous area to tread because it. some point it will start to make you look kind of sad empathetic right at some point like it's not funny anymore you know how hard you go in look how many people showed up to my birthday party oh nobody i'm alone brook just helped me realize it's probably my problem yeah i just make fun of yourself a little too much yeah but you didn't feel that way may you felt like he was just doing just enough to be humorous yeah i mean you have to get somebody's attention you know it's hard there's a lot

of options out there. So that's how he stood out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. Well, so did you guys end up going out? We did. Yeah, we went out for drinks. And what was that like the first time you saw each other? It was nice. I mean, he seemed really nice, a little more soft-spoken than I would have thought.

Oh, okay. Because he was so bold and sarcastic when he's writing. That's interesting. You'd think he'd be cracking jokes the whole time. But, I mean, it was fun. He seemed like a really good guy. He's interesting. He's in a Oh, God, there's another red flag. What's wrong with band people? Well, nothing. Nothing. Why just shout red flag?

I don't know, just musicians, you know. Yeah, they got a reputation. What's the reputation? Are you kidding? They're talented? No, no. We're not talking about parody songs today. Yeah, there's no red flag there, okay?

I think he's a keeper, man. Don't let this one go. A singer, I see no problems. Okay. I mean, it's cool that he's in a band. Yeah, I thought it was cool. I really enjoyed the conversation. I thought we really got along. We even kissed up at the end of the night. Whoa. Okay. And musicians never kissed girls randomly. Wow. Okay. So what's happened since the date? I honestly just haven't really been able to get a hold of him.

Is he ghosting you, the irony that he's the one complaining about getting ghosted? And that's a weird thing. Like he's like talking about how terrible the dating world is. I just want to quickly correct myself. I'm not able to. get a hold of him on the phone, but we are texting a little bit back and forth. Okay. So he's not totally silent. I mean, the thing is, I have a lot of options. I have a lot of people asking me out, but I wanted to give Doug a chance because I really enjoyed my time with him.

So I don't know. I'm just kind of thinking maybe he does have a wife or... Right. Like there's always some truth in every joke, right? Maybe he's just so used to being ghosted. He doesn't know how to act around a woman who actually wants to be with him. She's like, let's go out again. He's like, don't mock me.

Yeah. I mean, I hope I didn't dock him by actually asking him to hang out again. Wait a minute, what do I do now? We'll find out. We'll come back, call him, and try and get you your second date update right after this. Second date update. If you're just joining us, we're on the phone with one of our listeners, May, who, in her own words, is a woman with lots and lots of other male options online.

I mean, so she's a woman. woman. Yes. Yeah. Most women did. She is quite the woman.

Her bumble hinge notifications are blowing up on the reg. But she's not thinking about

all those other dudes thirsting after her and her picks. She's thinking about one guy named Doug.

Funny, simple, nice guy in a band, Doug, who went on one day with her and immediately got her

attention. But now, for some reason afterwards, they can't seem to nail down a time to hang out again.

Even though Doug went on and on about how terrible dating is for him. He can't meet a nice person. So weird, which has May worried that maybe he actually might be married. Right. Because they joked about the woman in his profile pick, being his wife. Maybe it wasn't so

jockey after all. You know, it's one of those things where he's like, well, I told her. How mad would you be if we get him on the phone and he told you that actually is his wife? Oh. I would be pretty upset because I don't accept lying. Yeah. So do you know what?

Not as upset as his wife would be. Yeah. I'm just trying to look at the positive here. Who would be angrier? Her or his wife? Maybe we'll find out in a couple minutes here. We may get a really angry text in. Wait a minute.

Is that my husband? But now let's just call Doug and see what he asked to say. You ready? I am. Okay. Good job, Jeff. Here we go. Hello?

Hey, is this Doug? Yeah, this is Doug. Hey, Doug, you don't have to sound so skeptical. It's okay, nothing sinister going on on our end. We're just a radio show hoping to talk to you. Hey, Doug. What's up, bro? What's going on here?

What's going on is a segment we do called the Second Date Update, and you're going to be our featured star for the day. No. I don't believe you, Doug. He's honest. I think you're more excited than you're letting on because we're trying to hook you up with one of our listeners

who you've already been out on a date with. And she just wants to see you one more time. Her name's May. Are you kidding me? No. Oh, my. Oh, that was a good surprise. Yeah, she sounds darling.

It sounds like you guys had a great time together. Yeah. What's with all the noises, Doug? She's into you. That's a good thing. I thought dating was so. hard for you like this is like you got one sounds like you guys know a lot about me yeah well we've heard some stuff from you from may herself she we asked her to describe your date and she had glowing

reviews honestly she said you're really funny and she thought your profile's funny too yeah she talked about the profile yeah it came up yeah that you had a funny joke about the girl in your picture well we ask because we thought that the girl was a red flag yeah yeah you should change that once we're clarified that's not the reason why we're calling to criticize your dating profile stuff it is fun though yeah we could but no we're just a per we're really focused on may because she's really confused she wants to see you she feels like she's been reaching out trying to arrange a date and you keep avoiding her is she reading that right i mean she does keep suggesting nights you know yeah yeah that's usually when you say yeah friday works great for me unless you're not into her

if there's some other problem or you're married the last two Friday night she asked to see my band and like she wants to come to see me a perform and like grab a drink afterwards that's nice

you have a show she's even interested in like your hobbies you're saying it like it's a bad thing I don't I don't I didn't know how to answer her like what do you mean you know she was even asking for a one-on-one

concert at my place That's her flirting with you, Doug That means she wants to see you and probably do more I don't have lights and equipment I don't have a stage in my house Too much pressure But you probably don't have to put on an entire concert She just is wanting to hang out

I don't think she cares about the music quality Yeah she wants to make out with you bro Well there's pressure when like She thinks that I know how to play guitar You know like I'm not really in a band I'm not really musical at Wait, you said you're not in a band? Wait, you told her that you're in a band.

Well, I needed something to sound cool. Like, it can make me stand out. Oh, no, this is the lie. That's what you chose. No. Do something that you actually do. I'm sure there's something cool about you. Yeah, there's cool things about me.

Like, but you got to have something like really sticks out, you know? You're just trying to stand out. Well, I mean, I get it. Like, you're in a, it's a lot of pressure. You're having a hard time dating, like, with the apps and stuff. You want to stand out. And then suddenly this lie is snowballing is what it sounds like. Yeah, and I really liked her, and I didn't know what to do.

And she keeps asking me, like, you know, on it. Oh, my gosh, it makes so much sense. That's why you're not getting this date because she's asking based on the lie that you've told her, that you're in a band and you're not. But that's a lot better lie than he was married. You know? It really is. That's true.

Yeah. That work is right. I mean, at least. It's kind of cute. You're trying to impress her, you know? And that's a rough lie to go with, though. Like, if you're not in a band, how are you ever going to prove that? He panicked, Jeff, okay?

It was the first thing that came to mind. It either go with that or be a Formula One race car driver. Oh. Now, that is sexy. Those jackets are really in style right now for girls to wear. And a guy that lives dangerously on the racetrack. And no Americans watch so you can say you're like from France and they believe you. Why didn't you go with that one, bud?

Stop at you, you guys. At least I could have said I was. in the off season right now. Just driving your Kia around in the off season, you know. Hi, I've heard enough. Oh. Oh, you have?

What? What? Yeah, Doug, if you didn't know, that's May who's been listening on the other line right now. You're being honest now, whether you wanted to or not. Yeah, she knows. Look, I'm sorry.

Like, you were, like, so pretty and then cool. And, like, I just, I wanted you to like me. I just, I felt like I, I had to say something cool, you know. That's really sweet, but also we spent half of the time at our first date talking about your band. Oh, no. Wow. That's a lot, bro.

Here's the thing, though, like, immediately after our date, like, I signed up for piano lessons. Oh. Does piano count a band? Yeah, there's a keyboard. Yeah. Not quite as sexy. Usually the least sexy of a band is the keyboardist, but. Didn't you say you played guitar in the band, though, Doug?

Yeah. Yeah, but the guitar lessons were more expensive. Oh. Oh. At this point, he's like, I'm going to play the triangle. So, May doesn't, May, do you feel like you know anything about him? I know, like, a couple things about where he grew up.

Look, it was just a band thing. Like, everything else was real. Did you hear that? Everything else he said was real, like the wife in his photos. No, no, no. No, that was a joke, Jeff. No, not that. Oh, okay.

everything else except for that I don't need any big fancy career or any you know super impressive hobby I'm looking for a really genuine funny person yeah and besides Doug do you know that when she told us about the band

Alexis and I were both like red flag it's true red flag it wasn't bad you can't trust a guy in a band apparently you can't trust a guy not in a band and girls always love mad boys in band but not for long my friend would you honestly have been interested in if he did not say he was in a band

Yeah, the thing that attracted me to him was his humor and that he was funny. Well, did he come up with a good band name? Maybe he had a funny band name. Oh, yeah. Did he tell you? Yeah, he did say it was called chicken noodle soup. Chicken noodle soup.

I like it. At the very least, May, just talking to him now, he seems like a nice and sincere guy. He is coming clean. And Doug, I'm going to give you 20 seconds here to say your final piece before we offer to send you guys out on a day. What do you want to say to May?

I just, I should have been up front. I'm super sorry if you give me a second chance. Like I'll just, anything you want to know, straight, honest truth. And I'll be my goofy, normal self. And you can either like me for that or not. Oh, that's good pitch. Plus, we're going to offer to pay to send you guys out on another date, May. So what do you say?

I will say that I do not like liars. And I also am very attracted to people who are super secure with themselves and who they are. However, I really enjoyed talking to you, and so I will give you a second chance. Oh. Oh, I feel like you need to mention those first ones. I think she's setting boundaries.

Okay, so it's a pity, yes? No, I see, no, it's a yes. I want to go on a second chance. Okay. So roundabout way to say she's so excited to see you again, you, she can't wait to hear your first piano lesson once you figure it out. Yeah.

You have no idea of having this last. I'll back how less stress I feel. Oh, that's really sweet. We can get together on Friday if you want. Oh, now you're free. Piano lessons are weekdays. And your wife's cool with that, Doug? Yes, my wife.

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That may be the first self-admitting outright liar on our show that our listeners were actually rooting for. Yeah. That's a way. That's very well-sad. Because he's just so sweet. You know, and like earnest. He was really earnest about the whole thing.

You can tell he really was just like so nervous because he liked her so much. Just had to make up an excuse. It just goes to show if you lie and you do get caught, try to sound as pathetic and helpless as you possibly can. And people will feel. so bad for you that they'll actually be on your team. You're not wrong. Or just have a good apology. That's what he had

you to. God. He wasn't pathetic. He even won over Brooke which is hard for any man to do. Even the non-liars. So, good for him. Good on him. Make sure to hit up our YouTube, TikTok, our Instagram, at Brooke and Jeffrey to see clips from our show so you can lie to your next

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Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. It's common to scope out a restaurant before you bring a date there. You want to make sure the menu is good and the ambiance is right. The mechanical bull isn't too wild. You've got to have a chance to set the record. Alex is excited. Alex just knows how to win over a man. I'm going to impress that date.

It's the best Olive Garden ever. But is it still good if you're only going to make sure there aren't very many security cameras? One of our listeners swears he has a very good reason that's totally not sketchy at all for wanting to make sure the place is extra, extra private. It's always good when you have to say that. Let's keep an open mind because we're going to hear him out in your second date update right after this. Second Date Update. A lot of so-called dating experts will tell you that it's good to bond over things that you both love.

Yeah, why did you use dating experts in quotes? That is true, Jeff. Well, I'm saying like the same TV shows, same sports teams, same mom. What? I don't know if I really trust that line of thinking. One of our listeners says he was drawn to a woman based on what they both hate. And that actually sounds healthier to me. That can bring you together.

So I don't say this often, but let's spread the hate today and talk to Ethan and learn about his date. Ethan, welcome to the show. Oh, Ethan. Hey, guys, thanks for having me. I'm really thankful after that slogan of the day. Okay, since we're spreading hate, everyone let's go around the room and say, who do you hate? Brooke? No.

Before we do that, I like that idea for that exercise. First, let's talk to Ethan about what he hates and how. how that bonded him to the girl that he met. What's her name, by the way? You go first is what he said. Well, her name is Aria. Okay. And she got me laughing over her first line, which was her biggest pet peeve is people who microwave fish at work.

Brooke. Oh, oh. I stopped bringing in salmon, okay? And where did she say that line? Oh, it's on her dating profile. Ah. Okay. So you saw that and you were like, this is my type of woman.

Well, and it's probably a good opening, right? Like, for you to strike up a conversation? Yeah, because there's actually a guy that does that at my work, so we kind of bonded. I mean, nothing harder. They're talking about bad-smelling food. Yeah, that's right. Hot fish, Alexis. Stick with it.

Every office has at least one of those people, but that's cool to bond over that. It was an opening to see her personality, and, man, she's funny, and we just got along so well after that. That's awesome. What a great start. Sense of humor is so important. For sure. Some people all bond over. How much they hate humor? Yeah, they're like, did you tell a joke? No.

Ew, good. How dare you laugh. But, okay, you guys end up meeting up for a date? Yeah, I wanted to pick a place like a restaurant so I could get to know her. A place that wasn't crowded, and that's important to me just us focusing on getting to know each other. What do you?

That's good, bro. I don't know. I get worried about that. Non-crowded places mean bad food to me. I think the positive, though, is quiet, and you get a little bit more intimate time. And you can actually talk. The whole staff was probably listening to everybody's head in the conversation. It's dead quiet.

Yes, a first day just came in. I love sitting next to a first date and Ian's dropping in. Okay. Well, it's nice that you got exactly what you wanted. How did it go? It went well and I'm also not a fan of cameras. Cameras? Okay, we have a lot of things that you hate so far. Are you wanted? Is there a bounty out of the girl? See, I was taking

some sort of FBI watch list too, I say. So far you hate people that microwave their fish. You hate big crowds and you hate cameras. Yeah. What's the cameras deal? Explain that. Well, security cams. Like, businesses and restaurants, they have so many, they capture your image

and they can use it for anything. They also usually don't work. Perfect. I work in a restaurant. They're all fake. I feel you, though. The people at the radio station use my image on stuff all the time, and it's really annoying. Do you have security cameras? No, he's talking about the promotional pictures. Yeah, pictures are everywhere

around here. It's on the cars. It's on the flyers. Give me some. Give me some space. I'd like some privacy. I'm pretty big in it. I feel like it. I'm with you though, bro. You're talking to millions of people daily in one privacy. That's funny. Did you tell her the thing about how you hated security cameras?

No, I like to scout that out ahead of time. Okay. But you go and see before you go. He's thorough, brook. He does his research and decides if he likes a place before he takes there. I think that's a good thing. I imagine he puts up security cameras to look at their security cameras. So were you able to bond over

more stuff you hate at dinner or what? We talked about traveling and hobbies. Okay. Like, I like to work out and run, and she likes to play tennis. Oh, sweet. That's awesome. You're both active people. Yeah, but you don't, you hate walking.

Running only. He likes to run from the authorities after they catch them on the security camps. I'm really a positive person. I don't know why. There's just some things that bug me. That's all. Okay. Okay.

Yeah. And we kind of really leaned into that with you. Yeah. How did the date end? Basically, after the meal, we left and I asked her, I don't live far from here. Would you be up for coming over and having a drink and hanging out? Okay. All right.

I'm guessing you're figuring you're reading the room, right? You know, like she's into it? She said, yeah. Sweet. Good. Nice. She must have had second thoughts, though, because a few minutes later, as we were walking and just having a good conversation, she said, you know what, on second thought, I got to get up for

work in the morning, so I got to go. And I was like, are you sure? And she said, yeah. Really? I don't know. I think it's fair. I think it could have been one of those moments where it's like you got the devil and the angel on your shoulder. And then the devil's like, do it. It'll be fine. The angel's like, no, you have a meeting in the morning. Don't. Yeah, yeah. What do you think, Ethan? You think she was being honest with you that she really had to go work the next day? I'm not so sure. And it's been like eight or nine days since then.

and it feels like things have shifted, so I don't know why, and I need your help to figure it out. Right. What did you do with that 30 seconds to make her change your mind? What were you talking about? You were like, hey, I have 13 security cameras in my house, by the way. Bring doorbells? Oh, no, that's right.

No, he doesn't like the security camera. Oh, that's right. So maybe that's what he said. Hey, by the way, I have no security cameras. There's no traces of me anywhere. I mean, we didn't talk about security cameras. like that at all. Okay.

Okay, good. That's good. That's positive. That is a good thing. Yeah. Well, let's find out what made her change her mind and decide to turn around halfway over to your place. We'll get you your second date update with ARIA right after this.

Second Date Update. We're talking to Ethan, who we learned is not a fan of microwaved fish, large crowds, or security cameras. Got three things that really go together. But good news is he is a big fan of Aria, the woman that he went out with the other night. And it went great until the very end of the evening when she changed her mind on the walk over to his place and said, actually, never mind, I need to get home and sleep because I have to work tomorrow. Yeah, he was fine with that. He just wasn't fine with her not calling. Yeah, because that was eight days ago.

And I don't know what she does for work that could keep her occupied for eight straight days and nights. but it seems like something is up. Oh, she can be a streamer like me. She could do one of those marathon streams or she doesn't get off until she gets a certain amount of subs. That seems highly likely. Yes. Okay, probably not.

Or she, like, works on a submarine out in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. There's just no service out there. Maybe she's in space right now. Yeah, an astronaut of some sort. We didn't ask what she did for a living. I know a streamer. I know a biologist who has to track like 60 miles into the wilderness

to follow some Arctic foxes. Do you think we're close on any of these guesses, Ethan? That's a good question I think he could be You never found out what she did Yeah you're saying during an entire dinner date You didn't ask I'm just kidding I think she's in marketing

Okay marketing submarines and marketing rocket ships So that's totally different But I don't know Can I just add real quick Because you sound like a really private guy I think it's really cool that you're going out on a limb And calling us for help I mean I think it means a lot

Translation if this doesn't work out Brooke is interested heavily, heavily interested. She finds you there an impressive specimen. That is true. All right. Let's call this lady

and see if she's willing to give you another shot. Here we go. Thank you. Yeah, we got you. Hold on. Hello. Hi, we're looking to speak with Aria. That's me. Aren't you pleasant?

Wow. It's nice to talk to a friendly person on this every once in a while. We're a radio show. We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. I don't know if you've heard of us. Uh-oh. No, don't worry. We're not doing a bad thing, I don't think.

It's so cute. What's going on here, guys? We're doing this thing on our show called The Second Date Update, and we're trying to help out one of our listeners that you met up with about a week ago, a little bit more than that. His name's Ethan. Oh, my gosh. Wait, actually.

Yeah. Yeah. Are you sure? Are we sure? We're absolutely sure we talk to Ethan. Yeah. Okay. I'm very, very surprised by that.

Really? Are you? Yes. Maybe he's a hard guy to read, you know, like how he's feeling. Yeah, what makes, why are you surprised? Um, okay. So we just, he seems like a very private person, you know. Yeah, we spoke to him.

We got that impression, too. So I guess I can understand why you're a little bit surprised that he would come through a radio show to reach you. I mean, we even actually applauded him for doing it. He's going out on a limb just because he likes you so much. That's very, very sweet. Okay. That's a positive. I feel like he maybe is a sweet guy.

he's also a confused guy right now because it's been eight days since you hung out and he doesn't really have an explanation for why the two of you haven't met up again. Yeah, and we were even debating in studio whether or not you really had work the next morning or you just made that up as an excuse.

No, I really did. Okay. Oh, okay. It was a convenient excuse. Oh, okay. Both things can be true. We didn't think about that part. You're like, wait, she actually has a job? that's the problem.

So why did you need to use an excuse? You're not going to believe me. Okay. Really? Wait a minute. It's unbelievable what you're about to say? I mean, I told a couple of my best friends this, and they couldn't believe it. Oh.

I kind of couldn't believe it when it happened. What happened? Now we're interested. Yeah. Yeah, you got to tell us. Okay, so we just had dinner. We're walking. And I thought, okay, like, maybe we're going to go back.

to his place. Uh-huh. Wait, you can't laugh through it because I can't always understand what you're saying. Okay, I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. We don't like laughing on this show. No, I love laughing.

I just want to hear like the moment. What happened? He said, if we do that, you're going to have to sign an NBA. Wait, what? Oh, wait. No, whoa. No, he was joking. No.

Only celebrities. You said NDA like a non-disclosure agreement? Thanks for explaining him, actually. What I thought he said at first was because this made more sense to me was do you like the NBA. Oh, MBA, like the basketball association. No, I couldn't possibly care less. But I started to be like, oh, like I don't really like sports. And he's like, no, no, no, no.

And then again, repeated NDA. What? And I just have never been that confused in my life. Did he explain why? Why did he want an NDA? Kind of. So I'm like, I feel so stupid for asking us. Like, are you famous?

I don't, like, I feel back to not knowing, but are you or something? He goes, no, but my dad is somebody. My dad is somebody. Okay. And that didn't make you want to sign the NDA even more just to like figure that out. And why is he going to bring his dad up and tell you stuff about his dad that you'd have to sign an NDA for? Hey, guys. Can we just stop this for a second?

I don't like the way this is gone. Oh, hello there. When we were just getting to the good stuff, I felt like. Wait, did we sign an NDA before this? No. What is happening right now? Oh. Ariya.

Hey, Aria. We didn't mention to you before, but that is Ethan, who's been waiting on the other line wanting to talk to you. And he heard everything. Seriously. Oh, my. Yeah. I didn't know that bothered you. And I think I told you I don't go on dates a lot, like maybe once or twice a year.

but the ones that I do, all the women that come back to my place have no problem signing the NDA. Oh, that's not a good start, Ethan. Oh, yeah. All the other women I bring back love to sign it. Yeah, he's being honest, and he's clearly a wanted man. Subject A through Z have all of my ideas.

I don't like that at all. I mean, let's reword that a little bit, Ethan. Sure, it's just whoever I hang out with, I have them do that, and I'm surprised you would bring it up on the radio. Well, first of all, I did not plan on being on the radio. Second, I really liked you, and I really wanted to hang out again, but you must understand that nobody does that. I promise you, maybe like a super famous person or, like, a criminal or something.

Or a criminal. I don't think the criminals really do that. A lot of times they're not a normal thing. Well, I think you're kind of selling it to yourself there because all of the best parties and events that I've ever been to made me sign NDAs. Especially the criminal ones. Well, I would tell you more, but I'm technically not allowed to speak on that.

Wait, aren't you dying of curiosity of who his dad is? I feel like I'd sign it just to find out. Honestly, it just seemed fake to me. You don't believe me? I believe that he's really, like, as a famous dad. You don't believe me? Then I'm rich and famous. Come on.

Then I'm surprised we went to that restaurant. Oh, yeah. Okay. Okay. Exactly. No, it fits the profile. He doesn't like to be caught on camera. He doesn't like to be seen in big crowds.

He wants to go to places that are under the radar so that nobody knows who he is. And all the rich and famous people need our help getting another date. It's true. Everybody in Hollywood knows. Aria, you should really rethink your decision here. I would like to offer to send you out on another date with mysterious Ethan to find out. Hey, hey, hey, before she answers, I need to let you know. I think I'm out.

She just doesn't value privacy as much as I do. What? So you know what she says yesterday? Yeah, I think I'm done. Before I have the chance to say it, great. Wow. That's it. Are you kidding me?

We're done. Dude, this is going to kill me, Alexis. I go out with us. I'll sign anything. But then you can't tell anyone. She can tell me. Can I text it? Not say out loud.

Yes. There's always loopholes in these NDAs. Guys, thanks for trying. I appreciate it, but I've got to go. Oh, no. I knew that was happening. Oh, my God, he hung up. What just happened?

What just happened is we didn't get any answers. What just happened is you lost your chance with Ben Stiller's son is what happened. Clearly. Dang. Sean Stiller? Ethan Stiller. Oh, that's right. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.

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You do it for the plot. That's right. I feel like I was the originator of that slogan. Yes. Really? I've been doing that for decades, Alexis, just for the plot. How many basement boys and homeless folks did you go out with just to come into the radio and tell that story?

But they're such good stories. And they were good people. Sort of. I feel like girls date me for the plot. Right. He always got a story for that guy. It's fun. And I, God, I want closure. on this so bad. I know. Now we're

never going to know who the NDA guy really is and that is going to haunt all of us for the rest of our year and probably the rest of our lives. It is kind of a baller move if it's just a lie to say that you have to sign an NDA. I can't tell you. Is it baller if you can't get a date though? If you can't

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