Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - Second Date Update Classics: The Boy Who Cried Tree + Deck The Mall

Episode Date: December 20, 2025

Part 1 After we totally botched a Second Date for a guy a few months ago, he’s back and at this point we’re not sure if he’s trolling us or just likes the punishment. We can't let him down this time! Part 2 Imagine if you went on a date with a coworker and after the hang out, MULTIPLE PEOPLE are now avoiding you. It happened to one of our listeners and you can hear why in a Second Date!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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This is technical director Ashton coming at you with another classic second day update. And just for all of you ladies out there, if you like this second date, you like what the guy did on this second date, give me a call. Most of the time,

If you go to a business for some help, and they provide horrible service, completely let you down and leave you off worse than when you came in, that would be the end of it. You would never go back again. Totally. You go places for help. Right. Not the other way. That's why we were so surprised after we totally botched a second date for a guy a few months ago. And he's asking us for another one today.

I take back my statement. Yeah, but we're free. He's not paying for it. So maybe that's why he's still here. I mean, at this point, I'm not sure if he's just trolling us or if he really, really enjoys the punishment. But his name's Brian, and we're going to hear about his holiday that he had at a Christmas tree farm the other day. Okay. And we promised to give at least 30% effort.

Well, Brooke, 22%. Okay, all right. We don't want to stretch ourselves too far for this. I'm pretty tired right now during the holidays. Can I just 17? Okay, yeah, we're going to muster whatever little strength that we have left. Okay, let's do this. in your second date update that's coming up next.

Second date update. Today, we actually have a repeat customer for a second date update. Oh, what? No way. Okay. Is that allowed? I just don't think things are going very well for them, Ben. Well, he called in about five months ago.

Okay. When he got side-eyed during sushi by another woman that he ghosted. Oh, I remember that. I don't remember. We do so many of these. Well, I guess we couldn't get him another date there, but apparently there's a new lady. lady who's caught his attention and he wants our help again so we're welcoming back

Brian Brian welcome back man you must really have faith in us for some reason I know we couldn't even help last time I believe in you guys I'm believing you okay I'm the second chance I feel like we cursed your love life and you're just stuck with us now he's like I'm trying other morning shows but you're the only ones I like me actually I emailed all of them but you're the only ones they responded so oh yeah that checks out yeah We'll be a very low standards here. So welcome back. And tell us about the girl that you met this time.

What's her name? All right. So her name is Aubrey. Okay. I saw a picture on my co-workers' Instagram. She was tagged in it. Oh. Nice, dude.

You know, I got it to detective mode and clicked the tag and went on her page. I love it when girls tag their friends because some girls will have a really hot friend, but they won't tag him. And I'm like, how am I supposed to creep on your friend? You don't tag her. Okay. So remind me not to tag my friend. So that's not okay from a woman's perspective. Is it cool if a guy reaches out to you?

I mean, it depends on how hot he is, right? That's always the answer. Brian, I know you're super handsome, so you're safe. What did Aubrey say when you reached out? Well, I slid in a DM. She didn't seem to be attached to anyone. And I found out this is going to be her first Christmas alone because she's actually moved

and she's going to be away from her family. Aw, that's too bad. She should get used to being alone like me. Okay. Was she sad about that or was she happy about it? She was a little distraught. Okay. Yeah, I can see why.

Okay. So you're like, this is my moment. I'm going to do something holiday for her. Is that what you're thinking? Of course. I offered to take it to her Christmas tree farm to get her a tree. Aw. So at least she had a season to be jolly filled with a tree in the house.

That's cute, too. And I feel like you can be vouched for, right? Like, it's not just some rando coming into her DMs. Like, it's her coworker. friend. Yeah. So how did the Christmas tree farm go? It was great.

It was great. So what we did, we wore our silly Christmas sweater. Oh, nice. And I wore my sweater. I said, jingle and single. I love it. This is great. I want to do this now.

Her said Santa's favorite, ho, ho, ho. Nice. I knew it was going to be an awesome time. So I bought a little bit of those, you know, those small bottles they have on the airplane of alcohol. Yeah. Shooters. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I bought a couple of those. I bought like four or five whiskey bottles and it loosened both of us up. We had such a great time. Okay. Okay. I mean, that's a really cute date. I mean, what was the highlight of it all for you? Well, she found a tree that she loved, love, love, love. So I offered to buy it for. And then I thought the price tag and

was like, whoa. How much you trees cost? Oh, my God. We just got one this weekend. It was 85 bucks. Whoa. It was like in three figures. It was pretty high. Oh, okay. Oh, yeah. Ours was only like five foot tall.

Like, if you're thinking eight feet or something, that's expensive. Oh, that's not a good look when you offer to pay for something. You're like going back on it afterwards. Yeah. Actually. That's like me like all for dinner. See the bill?

Actually, you want it. He just saw, you know, a foot off the top. This was actually a three foot or now. What is funny because she saw all the look on my face when I saw that price tag. And she was like, All right, we're definitely splitting this. Yeah. I was like, yeah, we are.

All right. But still, you paid for half of her tree, bro. That's actually really nice. Okay, but was that the end of the date? You bought her the Christmas tree and that was it? No, no, we tied that bad fella to the top of the car, drove it to her place and set it up. Oh, cute.

Wow, you really went all out, bro. I mean, now you're... I don't know how to do that. I would have been like, okay, good luck. You can just ditch her with the tree. Well, but it's like, you're like, fully invested. This is hours of a date. And I also feel like it's like a personal

thing to like set up a Christmas tree with somebody. It is. Like it's your tree. You guys put it up together. Well, we put it up together, but I wanted to stay and decorated, but she said she had dinner plans and she ended up a date like that. And I'm like, okay, cool. She may have to have pre-existent

plans. But I've been texting and calling and nothing. Oh, so you didn't decorate the tree. Yeah, maybe she didn't want that commitment with you. Do you think that she was telling the truth? Do you think that she really had plans or you think that was a lie to get out of it? I don't know. I felt like the girl at the sushi restaurant and I was hoping you guys could help me. All right. And there was no women like side-eyeing you at the Christmas

tree farm from like behind another tree. We're not going to do the same call again, are we? No, no side no. Okay. Well, thank God. Let's play a song. We'll come back. We'll call Aubrey for you. We'll try to get your second date update, okay? Hey, can you play all I want for Christmas is too? No. We don't take requests. No, we deleted that out of our wife. You'll hear what you hear and you're going to like it. That applause. Come to the ghetto, snoop dog. I like it, but no. You can wrap that to yourself while you're on hold,

and then we'll come back with your second date update, all right? Shannon Close. Let's do it next. Second date update. Has the Hallmark Channel already done the 12 DMs of Christmas? No, but I like it. I mean, they should. Yeah, they should.

Because one of our listeners, Brian, met a woman on Instagram recently, took her to a Christmas tree farm because this is going to be her first holiday spent away from her family. Oh, it's so sweet. It's like thoughtful. It's fun. Absolutely. But there was an embarrassing moment where he offered to pay for the tree for her and then saw the price tag. So I had to dial it back and instead just went Dutch.

Anyway, ever since that happened, he's had a hard time getting a hold of her now. He's asking us for a little bit of help. Yes. Do you think it's that? Do you think it's the, you didn't pay for the full tree? Yeah, I hope I didn't come off looking like a cheap skate, but I don't think so. About a fake tree off Amazon and just all there. I mean, cheap skate is something we can fix, though. Yeah, that's true. You know? Well, we're paying for the meal at the end of this.

So I think we're paying it, we're going to go to a nice spot. Yeah, exactly. We got you covered, Brian, but let's see what Aubrey has to say. We're going to dial her number right now. Let's do it. All right, now. Hello. Hello, is this Aubrey?

Yes, it is. Aubrey, did you buy a Christmas tree recently? I'm calling from the tree farm. We found out that there's a problem with your tree. We need it back, please. We need it back. What? It's like a family of woodpeckers living in?

Endangered woodpeckers. Yeah, that's what. No, I'm sorry. I'm just kidding, Aubrey. My name's Jeff from the radio show Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Okay. The name is more believable. Somehow I just made it worse.

No, we're doing something on our show called The Second Date. Have you ever heard of that before? No, I have not. Okay. Well, recently you went out with one of our listeners, and he's been trying to get a hold of you, just have a little bit of trouble doing it. His name's Brian.

Oh. Does that whole Christmas tree thing? beginning makes sense now? Yeah. Sure. Okay. Well, what we're doing here is we're trying to help Brian figure out why you're kind of ghosting him after your date. Well, yeah, that would be because I'm not interested in talking to him again.

Oh, wow. Oh, it's that strong? Really? Because, like, he sounded so thoughtful. I mean, he said that he took you to the tree farm because you were kind of sad about not having the, you know, family for the holidays and stuff is it because he's poor I'm not really sure

what all he told you about the date okay well he told us that you went to a Christmas tree farm together he got you a tree offered to buy it in full but then saw the price tag and you ended up having to go Dutch instead well she offered you offered to go Dutch she said yeah I did yeah

okay you did do that and then afterwards he drove the tree back to your place and put it up for you but you had to go to dinner and couldn't stay longer and decorate it with him. Is all that right? Well, technically, yeah, but I think he left something out of the story. Oh, no. What did he do?

What did he leave out? So after we loaded the tree onto the car, we were getting ready to go, and I put my hands in my pockets to make sure I had my gloves, and I only had one. So I just said, I'm going to go back and look for my gloves, you know, wherever. we were. So he stayed at the car. I walked back over to where we were looking at trees. And I see this little boy standing there, maybe six years old, crying. And he has my glove in his hands. And I'm like, oh my gosh, what is wrong? Like, are you okay? What happened? And so he looks at me and points at me and he says, that lady and her boyfriend took my tree. And I was like, oh, no. What?

what like he just liked that one out in the lot and then he saw you guys cutting it down instead of him or something well so his dad said well my son told me that he was standing by a Christmas tree it was the one that we had picked out and I was going to get this people to get the tree and you guys came and took it even though he was standing there and I was like oh my gosh did you not notice a little boy crying next to the tree Because you're chopping it down? If you think it was your day crying? I didn't see any little boy. Oh.

So you're calling the little boy a liar? No, no. But I wasn't the one cutting the tree down. Like once we decided on it, I left and went to look at like reefs and stuff that were for sale. And he was the one sawing the tree down. Oh. So you're saying you think that this little boy isn't mistaken. You're believing the six-year-old that your date went and cut down the little boy's tree.

after you left? I'm not saying that he did it on purpose, but I am telling Brian this and I'm like, there's this little boy and he's crying and he said, this was his Christmas tree. And Brian was like, I didn't see any little boy. Like, too bad.

Snooze you lose. I mean, it's just a freaking tree. I didn't care if that was the one we got or not. He was like, I'm not doing that. I'm not taking this thing off the car. We spent 20 minutes giving this thing. Oh, my God. God, it's like you guys are in a real relationship.

Yeah. Don't you? Like, they're fighting at the end of the Christmas tree. He's like, are you dating a six-year-old or are you dating me? Okay. And so the fact that he wouldn't give the tree back to the little boy in his family, that's why you're turned off by Brian? Yes.

I could see that. How heartless can you be? I mean, a six-year-old is crying in the middle of a Christmas tree lot. I can imagine. He's like, shut up. I'm trying to cut this tree down. Well, maybe it's just a misunderstanding. and there's some miscommunication here.

And the perfect way to sort this out is just by putting you on the phone with Brian, who is actually already on the phone. I've been listening to the entire time. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. What a huge miscommunication. Oh, really?

Oh, okay. Do you hear that? Well, how did I cut? One, I didn't cut down the little boy's tree because he didn't pay for it. Oh, whoa. Wait a minute. It's not how I thought you were going to come into that.

Oh, cold. Wait, so I'm going to do it. own it? It's not theirs yet. Well, hold on. Technically, you cannot cut down the tree until you purchase it. I had the receipt in hand when I cut down the tree. The boy was looking at the tree, but it was not his tree.

Okay, so you did see the little boy, though, crying next to it while you were sawing it down. There were kids standing next to every tree. So does that mean that's their tree, too? There's crying kids all over this tree farm. How am I supposed to know? I mean, that's kind of chest out. But you can see where she's coming from, right? Like, she just was confronted by a crying little boy and the father and then...

Well, hold on. The father, the father wasn't all that confrontational. The father was the kind of relief that I saved him from buying such an expensive treat. Aubrey, is that the word that you're getting, Aubrey? I think we're missing the point here. There is a six-year-old little boy crying at Christmas time. Like, I don't freaking care. If you didn't see him or like this little boy is crying.

No, I was more concerned his father couldn't do something to stop him from crying. Oh. Oh. So wait, now you're saying he's a bad parent. He's raised an entitled child who believes that he deserves the tree. I mean, I'm kind of with him on that point. Like, my kids wanted a bigger, more expensive tree at the tree lot. And we're like, no, that's not happening.

But your kids are used to crying all the time. Didn't you cry about it? I think that's what happened. I think his father probably told. him no to that tree because of the price tag on it. And he just, he was playing, he was playing that kid making us look like the bad guy. So he didn't look like the bad guy. The point here is that we had an opportunity to do something really kind for a child at

Christmas time. And you chose not to do it. And you want to take the time. We were on a, we were on a date. This is not make a wish. Oh. You're not making it. You're not making it any better, but...

And now every time Aubrey goes into her house, she looks at her tainted Christmas tree. You know what, Aubrey. Aubrey, here's a chance for you to take your own advice here. There is a sad boy on the other line who cannot get another date with a woman that he really liked. And all he wants for Christmas is one more date, and we will pay for it.

Are you going to be a good person here, Aub, or are you going to be a Grinch? He may cry. Oh, my gosh. Are you serious? I know. When you frame it like that, it's hard to say no. I mean, I will say, Brian really does like you. He was trying to do something kind.

Maybe he's got a little more sterner approach to children than you do. He was more focused on you than his environment. Yeah. That boy probably isn't a very good kid anyway. He's probably a little spoiled brother. Well, he could have stolen your glove for all we know. Oh, no. He was holding on to your club, Aubrey.

You guys! You should really rub it in that kid's face by going out with Brian again one more time on our bill. It's going to be a hard path. Oh. No Christmas miracle. How does she look like the Grinch now? Now there's a whole studio full of sad radio hosts

who are just upset because we couldn't get our listener another date. Again. Good job, Aubrey. I think there's a pattern. here. It's not me. It's Brian. Oh, come on, Brian. Last Christmas, I gave

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Brooke has still been saying that she doesn't care that the kid was crying. She kind of thinks that he deserves it. I don't think, I mean, kids cry all the time, Jeffrey. So it does it count? Well, I mean, Alexis, if we did everything based on what would upset a child, no one would do anything in this world. Yeah, the world would be a better place like that. Just don't do anything at all.

Say, like, he can get a different tree. Yeah, I think the- It's already on top of the car. I wouldn't take it down either. Let him take your car home, then at least. That would have been in the true spirit of Christmas. You're so generous, Jeff. You know, but of course, with people like Brooke on the show, we're unable to get a second date update for our friend, Brian.

I tried for Brian. I did. Yeah, so we're now 0 for two with Brian. Yeah. I wonder if he'll call back for a third time. Who knows? Remember at the beginning of all this, he was the one ghosting women. Yeah.

Go how the tables have turned. That's called Christmas karma. There it is. But you know what? If you're like Brian, you need help reaching out to someone after a date, email us. We'll call the person who isn't calling you back. We're obviously very good at it. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.

I know how awkward it can be dating somebody in your own office, but especially around the holidays. Oh, wow. Just the other day, there was mistletoe hanging from one of Alexis's fake eyelashes. That's what that was. I don't even know if she realized it was there. Yeah. She has to kiss everybody. It looked cute, that, right?

Jose sure noticed it. Oh, sure. How did you get sound of that happening? That was amazing. There's also a microphone stuck in her fake eyelash, too. It was in the other eyes. So it's super awkward that our co-hosts and now are an item. But just imagine if you went out with someone at your work, and after the hangout, multiple people are now avoiding you.

Oh, avoiding you. That's what happened to one of our listeners. and we're about to find out why and see if we can get her another shot in a holiday edition of Second Date update. I was going to say at least get her Alexis's The Lash Lady number.

Yeah, we've got to get some help for her. That's coming up next. Second Date Update. The holidays are a time for family, for giving, for playing your favorite Christmas songs on repeat with rapper Little John in the background. I miss that silent night

Not so silent Nothing says the holidays for me Like an Atlanta rapper putting on another U-a-Log Why are you bringing up Liljohn And how he spends his holidays I'm just saying the holidays They're different for everybody What?

I said the holidays are different for everyone Little John They're different for everyone Okay, you got it now. This whole time he just had hearing problems. We've got a listener on the phone for a very special holiday edition of a second date update. Her name is Perra. So, Perra, welcome to the show.

Oh, my gosh. Oh, what? Parra, what's up? Hey, good morning. Happy holidays, Perra. Hey, thanks. So tell us about why you emailed us for a second date update. meet. Yeah. So I met this guy. His name is Bryce. We work in the same building, but we hadn't

officially been introduced, I guess, like we knew who each other were. But we were at a celebration for the holidays. It was a work party. Oh, yeah. Cool. Cool. Okay. Perfect. Yeah, perfect opportunity. Yeah. So he approached me. And it's kind of weird that he told me that he heard about me from Jana. She's another girl we work with. But I don't really know. her very well either. Oh, someone's playing matchmaker at your company. A little office gossip, I like it. Brooke always tries to do that with our other co-workers of office holiday party, too.

Yeah, you know, I think it helps that he was very attractive. Otherwise, I'm not sure I would be too happy that Jana was talking about me to the strangers. She's like, don't hook me up with, oh, it's that guy? Yeah. Oh, okay. All right. John comes in, okay. Okay.

So how did that go? You and Bryce hit it off? Yeah, we did. So he invited me to go Christmas shopping with him. What? That's kind of cute. Yeah, I've never been asked out that way before. So I thought, you know, it would be kind of cool to get to know each other.

And so it's not so, like, formal. Yeah. But we were there for, like, five hours. Okay. Oh, that sounds like a nightmare. What a list. He didn't say, like, I really got to find something for my wife, right? It kind of ruined the mood.

Diamond earring shopping. Yeah, who were you shopping for? I guess we were just shopping for, like, his family and stuff like that. We did look at some really cute, like, sexy outfits, but he had me put him up to me, and, you know, he complimented me and was being really flirtatious. Did he buy you any of them? No, it was our first date. So I think he was just trying to be flirty and cute and just kind of hit the touch barrier

and stuff like that. Okay. I'm picturing lingerie. Is anyone else? Or is it, like, just a cute dress? Is a robe considered lingerie in your house? If it's a silk robe? Yeah.

I mean, it's got to be tiny if it's going to be considered lingerie and sexy. Otherwise, it's like, oh, you look hot in this very large Terry Colise. Which one was it? You know, we looked at many different things. It wasn't just like one specific type of outfit or anything like that. We were there for many hours. And he had the stamina for that. I swear to God, I go to the store with my husband and 20 minutes in.

Yeah. He is done. Oh, my gosh, yeah. I mean, did you guys at least go get food somewhere? We did. We ate at the food core about halfway through, just kind of talked about work and stuff like that. This is like a 1996 date all over again.

Yeah. Hitting up the Orange Julius. Yeah, why not? I mean, it sounds like you had a good time. I did. You know, we spent some time kind of making fun of people and just, like, it was nice to see somebody who wasn't so uptight, like all the other guys I've dated.

I'm supposed to say people watch. It's a nicer way. Yeah, exactly. You can't get fun of them when you're sitting in the photo or eating yourself. It's a valid point. Alexis brings up.

Very good point. But it sounds like you guys really bonded and had a good time together. How did you leave things at the mall? Well, at the end, you know, we just kind of hugged. And then he said something

that was kind of weird. He said he was going to circle back with Jana and thank her for for introducing us officially, I guess. Was it supposed to be a joke? Because it comes off so business-like, I'm going to circle back with Jana. I thought it was kind of weird.

He hasn't really reached out to me since then, so I tried to reach out to Jana and ask her, you know, how she thought it went, but she's avoiding me too. Oh, they're avoiding you. Maybe the sexy robe was for Jana. Oh, that would be really weird. She's like super old.

Old ladies love robes. Yeah, they do. She's like, I'm going to knit in this. Thank you. It's weird. he's avoiding you, but also Jana is avoiding you. Something is clearly up here. Someone doesn't want to tell

you something. And that the old lady's playing matchmaker in the office. Well, that makes sense, because you do too. Oh, sorry. I'm sorry. I love you. And she loves ropes. That's cute. This is a cardigan. All right. That's a cardigan. That's fine.

I get a lot of compliments. I will say it is you. Sure you do. All right. So, we're going to play a song. We're going to come back and we're going to call Bryce for you. And we're going to ask him If he wants another date with you

Little John, are you cool with having Okay, little John's on board Didn't realize he was listening this whole time We didn't do your second date update right after this Yeah! Yeah! Hold on. Second date update We're in the middle of a holiday edition

Of a second date update. Oh, this song makes it sound so sweet. It is sweet. Because we're on the phone with one of our listeners, Perra, which honestly, It's an interesting name. I don't think I've ever heard that before. Is that short for something, para?

Yeah, it's actually short for a parasol. Parasol. Oh. Like the umbrella. Like the umbrella. Yeah, exactly. So my parents met in Paris under an umbrella, and so that's where my name came from.

Wow. I'm a paralegal. You're named after an international umbrella. That's cheap. I mean, Brooks named after a dirty river, filled with runoff from meth labs in Idaho. So you guys can bond after the show is done about your... They're going to go a crick, but they went with Brooke instead.

It's very romantic. Anyway, the reason Perra has reached out to us is because she went out with a guy named Bryce. The two of them went holiday shopping together after they were kind of set up by one of their coworkers. Is it been so awkward at work since he's been avoiding you? Luckily, we work in different departments. We don't really cross paths, but every once in a while, I'd like to be able to walk by and say, hi without it being weird yeah well let's start by saying hi over the phone because we're going to call him right now and we'll see what he asked to say maybe there's a logical reason why

he's not calling you back yeah all right all right she doesn't believe it oh come on that it's a spirit of the holidays that's what i was going to say it's all about hope right christmas magic on our side yeah i'll give it the benefit of it out i guess all right here we go i'm going to dial Bryce's number. Let's do this. Hello. Hey, is this Bryce? Yeah, who's this? Hey, my name is Jeff from the radio show, Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.

Okay. Merry Christmas. Or? Or Happy Hanukkah or Kwanza. Just happy holidays covers everything. Merry Christmas is fine. I always tell people, that's the safest assumption. and most people celebrate Christmas.

But, yeah, Merry Christmas. Okay. Well, I don't personally. I don't know if we want to go there, but okay. No, I'm glad. I'm glad that you're a big fan of the holidays. I love the holidays. Yeah.

So do we. We heard that you went holiday shopping recently, actually, with one of our listeners. Hi. Is this why you call me just to talk about holiday shopping? Have you been dipping into the egg dog? Nothing wrong with that. No, it's just kind of strange. I don't really, you know, I don't know why I got a call from a radio station.

Well, this is a segment that we do called the Second Date Update, and we're trying to see if you would like to hang out with Perra again after you guys went shopping together. Wait, Perra? Yeah, from your... Yeah, I know. I don't really see any reason to hang out with her again. I mean, I got all my Christmas shopping done. I mean, that was cool.

She was really helpful. What? Wait. What are you talking about? She said you guys met at the company holiday party. You're a co-worker, right? Yeah, we did. Yeah, we did.

We met in our company. The co-worker at Jana, I'll put us together. You know, I was complaining to her that I really couldn't figure out what I wanted to get from my girlfriend for Christmas. And so... Wait, what word did you just use? What do you mean? Wait, I needed to go shopping for my girlfriend. And Janet...

Wait, you have a girlfriend? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Okay. I don't think Pera, did you tell Pera that? Like, why are you being so nonchalant about it? I don't understand. I really don't get it. Jana told me that they did a secret Santa thing

for the last couple of years, and Pera gave the best stuff and, you know, had good tips on what to buy. So you used her for five hours on no pay as a personal shopper? Oh, no, don't get me wrong. You know, I actually gave some money to Jana that I asked her to give to Pera. Oh, no.

She didn't ask her anything. You know, I just said, I appreciate it. So I would hope she would pass it on. That's all. Okay. Did Jenna not give it to her? I'm so confused. I think a lot of people are confused.

Probably most of all is Perra, who's been listening on the other line this entire time and wants to talk to you. I don't even know what to say. I am a call. We'll say thank you. You were employed. Hey, that's not funny. I mean, it's funny, but this isn't, no, poor girl. I'm sorry. So, Bryce, Per has been there the whole time. Yeah, so first off, you have a girlfriend? Why do you think we were shopping for bathrobe?

I even said to you, do you think Helen would like these, you know? Why are you laughing at her? First off, Helen is an old lady name, so I definitely thought we were shopping for, like, your grandma or your aunt or something. He's valid. Fair point, yeah. And name is a name, okay? I mean, yes, she is a little bit older, but that doesn't matter. I mean, my girlfriend is, she's a wonderful.

She's a wonderful woman. Okay, so you used me to help you shop for your girlfriend. I mean, you just led me on and used me. Well, hold on, because he said that he gave money to Jana to forward to you. Well, that money never got to me, and it was obviously not clear that you're using me as a personal. shopper. Oh, my God. That's why Jana is avoiding you because she stole your money. Yes, you're right.

It has nothing to do. Oh, my God. I'm sorry, it just dawned of me. That's sketchy because, Bryce, why would you pay Jana to pay me? If that's really what this was, why didn't you give me the money and explain that that's what you wanted me to do? You work on a different floor

than me. I never really saw you that much until the party. And then Jana recommended that I take you shopping. And so, look, nobody asked me for money anyway. I thought it was just a nice thing to do. So I gave Janet 50 bucks to pass on to you. I think the issue, Bryce, why aren't you apologizing for the miscommunication, though? Like, I would feel terrible. Why is he apologizing for it? Because he was never clear with what his intention was. I mean, yes, I think that there was a lot

of mistakes throughout this whole thing. But, I mean, she's embarrassed. Parra's embarrassed. She thought that there was something else. And that, and that sucks. Yeah. I will say that Perra, I like, this is a weird situation. And I, you know, I think we all got a little confused. I knew you were single, all right? You kind of made that clear when we were shopping. And now, I guess, looking back, I understand why you kept talking about being single. I didn't want to rub it in.

You even have a girlfriend if you can't go shopping for her on your own. Does she know that you paid somebody to go find her gift for her? So I hired a personal shopper. I mean, in my mind, that's what I was doing. I hired a personal shopper. I don't think she would be upset by that. Yeah, I'd be impressed. Honestly, I think that helps the case.

You didn't hire personal shopper. But he thought he did. At least that was his intention. Jana's the one. Jan is the scandalous one in all of them. That is not true. I think Price totally took advantage of the situation to try to get some work for free.

He paid her 50 bucks. That was just a booking fee to pay Jana to find someone to shop for you. I think you still owe me like 100 bucks for my time. Yeah, that's true. That was a booking fee. I agree with that. I mean, if you're going to be a Pimp, you better get your rates right. Oh, my God. You know, I think I only spent like $40 on the bathrobe.

I mean, this is really good. Hey, she's a pricey shopper. That was the other part that was a little bit confusing. She felt like you were being flirty with her. I was being flattering. The entire time she's dropping hints about being single. Because she was on a date. I don't know.

I don't need a pity. The compliments, though, do get misconstrued during the holidays. Like, when I sat on Santa's lap and he's like, you look like a good little boy. I mean, I didn't take that one the wrong way. You did say, thanks, Daddy. Yeah, well, you know, that one was on me. I'm curious, though, Bryce. How long have you been in a relationship with this girlfriend, Helen?

We just started dating a few weeks ago, so I don't really know her well enough. That's why I kind of wanted help, you know. Already shopping for her. So it's a new one. relationship. And you're already Biner Roe? Oh, yeah. I didn't want to be alone during the holidays, you know?

Oh, you sound like a catch when you say things like that. Yeah. Well, maybe you guys don't have to be alone for the holidays if you meet up one more time and we'll pay for that meetup. Oh, no. If you're talking about us, no chance.

Yeah. Oh, Perra. There you go, Perra. I don't know. I don't know, Pera. I mean, I could use a new suit for a New Year's Eve. I'll help you shop. As long as you're very clear, that's what it is I'm going to be doing. Hey, see? We're helping.

I was thinking about getting some sexy lingerie for Helen. I don't know about you. Okay, now we're crossing. No. I'm just teasing. I like you. Dirty old man humor. Loving for a voice.

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