Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - Second Date Update Classics: The First Five Seconds + Hang Up On Him

Episode Date: April 11, 2026

Part 1 When you're out to dinner and you notice something on your date's face, do you tell them or keep it to yourself? One of our listeners is worried the choice he made is why he's not getting a call back... Part 2 One of our listener’s first kiss happened but her second date never did! So we’re gonna do everything in our power to get to the bottom of it in a Second Date Update!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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and things to see how bad allergies are. Yeah. I see it on the weather app. We just turned to Ashton over there to see if he's sneezing. Yep. He just pretty regularly. Is that nose red today? He is a... I don't know. Wait a minute.

I don't know. Sensitive redhead. Yeah. Honestly, I feel like you sneeze year round, but it gets a little worse at certain times. Yeah, yeah, totally. If his eyes are puffy, we know. Yeah, exactly 7am and 8 a.m. on the dot. It's the Ashton count.

And if you suffer from allergies, we're really sorry. Or if you suffer from Ashton. Either way, Jeff's got a great song for you. I don't know if you realize we do parody songs. Jeff writes them every week and performs them. You can see them live, not live, live to tape, I guess you could say. They were live when they were filmed. Yeah.

But you can see them on our YouTube. which we love it when you check that out. It's at Brooke and Jeffrey. And we are working on getting some more video for second dates. Yeah. It's a process. It's just me dancing in the studio. Stick with us on that one.

But right now we're going to do some back-to-bock classics. Yeah. Have fun. When you're on a really good first date and the chemistry's on, you're feeling the butterflies. Yes. But you look across the table and notice there's something on your date's face that shouldn't be there. Uh-oh. Uh-oh.

Do you, A, silently lick your finger and rub it off yourself? Oh, no. What if it's a birth mark or something? Yeah, it's a risk. That's a risk. Do you B, pull the fire alarm and hope the water from the sprinkler washes it away? That's a good solution, Jeff. Or, option C, do what our listener did when he found himself in that situation.

Oh, no. We're going to find out if option C contributed to him not getting a call back. You'll find out what happened in your second date update. Next. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Second date update. Brooke, did you know the first time that you met your husband, Michael, that something was special? Not saying that you knew like you were going to get married in the first 15 seconds of talking to him,

but was there anything that happened with you instantly that let you know, whoa, there's something real, like something actually special going on? No, I just felt so good around. him and I was so excited about him. Okay, you were drunk, so that's probably what it was. I mean, I did have like five glasses of wine and make an off-color UTI joke in the night I met off. Okay, well,

UTI jokes. And he still likes me. Hey, hey, there you go. That explains it. I mean, I remember the first time that I met Jose, and I noticed his fly was down, and I thought, ooh, special. But you didn't tell me X, XYZ, though.

No, I enjoyed it. He asked you to put it down further. But, you know, we don't talk about this all the time, about that first 10, 15 seconds when you meet your date and something happens inside. That's so exciting. Apparently that happened to one of our listeners, Graham,

recently. At least that's what his email said, and we should learn a little bit more about it. Graham, welcome to the show, man. Hey guys. Thanks for taking my call. I can't wait to hear about this chance meeting. Maybe it wasn't a chance meeting. Whatever the meeting was. It sounds

great. Yeah. So without getting overly descriptive. How did your body let you know that this was special? Well, she didn't have a fly open. I can tell you that. Oh, okay. Dang it. Good. So what's her name, by the way, and how did you meet her? Her name is ORA. ORA. Wow. How'd you meet her? We met on one of those dating apps, and we decided to meet at a wine bar. All right. So going into meeting her at the wine bar, or were you expecting something special? Well, you know how you always have your hopes up. Yeah.

But I knew when I walked in that I was going to be in so much trouble. Why? Good trouble? She immediately recognized me and started from across the room, waving both of her hands over her head like a total dork. Oh. She's just one of those people like me. She's got no shame.

I love it. And you loved that, right? Oh my gosh, she was just so effortlessly cute. A little free spirit over there. Her name's aura. It comes from the name. Oh, my gosh, you're right. Just a good energy.

That's adorable. And it sounds like she was excited to see you. It was one of those initial meetings where in the first five seconds I was like, oh my God, this is just like a dream. That must be a lot to process right when you're first getting to know somebody. So did the feeling wear off and just get into like a normal date after that? I mean, I wouldn't say it wore off or it was normal. It was just, I mean, there was a jazz trio playing. And we were both into jazz music.

And she was like, oh, let's make up names for the guys. And so you have Sammy Fly guitar playing and Dennis the drummer and all that kind of stuff. We were just cracking each other up the whole time. You guys were in your own world, right? And they're already making almost inside jokes with each other. You know, like just a fun, fun thing. Now anytime any song comes on the radio, you can be like, oh, yeah, this is my favorite drummer. Willington Drumerson, you know, whatever.

Well, clearly the vibes are there, so keep taking us through how the rest of the date goes. It just kept getting better. I mean, our sense of, like, humor was just so, like, simpatico, I guess, to use that word. Like, at one point, she had, like, some lipstick on her front teeth. Uh-huh. So I started, like, signaling and rubbing on my own front teeth. Good. I'm glad you told her.

Yeah. And she just looks at me, she goes, what are you having a stroke? Just rubbing your tongue on your teeth? Exactly. I was just laughing so much. So it was fun. Oh, yeah. It went so well.

Oh, my God. Sounds like it. Why are you calling us for help then? Like, I don't get it. How could this have ended poorly? Well, that's the thing. It didn't really end poorly. When we said goodbye, she just came up to me and gave me like a really long, tight hug.

Oh, that's nice. Okay. Okay. Some of those are nice. Exactly. And she says, we have to definitely do this again. Oh. That's nice.

That seems so sincere. I've texted her twice, one time to see if she wanted to go out for coffee. Second time to see if she wanted to go to a trivia night because I think she'd be great at that. Wait, how long did you wait before you texted her? Was this like 30 minutes after the date or was this a couple days? I waited two days. I think that's good. I think that's too long.

I think when you have a connection like that with someone, that you just go with it. You just follow it. You don't got to play the game of like waiting. So that extra day, that's what blew it. You took too long. Have you not heard from her? You just got to grab your luggage and move in with her.

It sounds like I'm so connected. Have you not heard from her at all? Well, that's the thing. It was like when I was texting her, she did reply. But both times she said that she was busy. And the worst part was, like, she didn't offer an alternative time or date or anything like that. It was that, no, I'm busy. I can't.

I mean, sometimes these free spirits, they really suck at text-ed-a-case. Yeah. You know what I mean? I mean, Alexis, if you wanted to see a guy, would you tell him, like, I'm just busy, or would you offer up a little bit more? Oh, I would offer something else. I'd probably over-offer, honestly. I'd probably mention all the times I'm free.

How many times would you do apologize for being busy? A lot. That's true, too. In all caps. It is odd that she leaves it at. just I'm busy and no explanation and no other follow-up to it. Exactly. That could feel like that she's trying to brush you off.

I understand. And you guys had such a thing happening. It's just hard to imagine she wasn't right there with you feeling the exact same thing. Well, maybe it was the fact that you made her pay for the dinner that night. You made her pay? I'm just assuming. Did you wait out of the middle? No, Graham's laughing.

No, no, no. I'm a proper gentleman. I paid for everything. Good. I just need you. I need you guys to find out for me how to. how the hell did I blow this? Oh, no, we're going to find for you how to keep it going

because I've got faith in this one. Because we don't even know that you blew it. It could be something totally unrelated. I am so excited to get her on the phone. All right, well, let's find out. We're going to come back, call ORA, and try and get you your second date update coming up right after this, okay? Thank you.

All right, man, hold on. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Second date update. Whenever I'm stuck on hold with customer service for four, straight hours. And the automated message keeps replaying over and over saying, we're busy right now. But don't go anywhere. Your calls very important to us. We're just busy. Yeah. I believe them. Oh, you do? They really, really care. We're not understaffed. I'm sure they're not a break somewhere. But the thing is, if you're on the other end of a potential relationship with somebody you really like

and you get too, sorry, I'm just busy right now. In a rose, it's hard not to be a little bit skeptical and feel like you're being blown off. Yeah, especially when they don't say, hey, press number nine for a different day to date me. Exactly. And that's where our listener, Graham, is after a really good date at a jazz bar with a girl named ORA, he has turned to us because those two busies just aren't equalling a second meetup. And they're not equalling the vibe that they had going when they were hanging out. It just sounds so good.

I can't believe we haven't said it sooner, but negative aura points for her. Yeah. Graham, I mean, before we call her here, how you feeling? I'm feeling a little nervous, to be honest, but- How's your aura? I mean, I get it. I'm feeling nervous for you. I mean, you just sound so excited, and I want this to happen for you.

I think we all do. Everything sounded so good. I don't want to put this out there, but it has to be shocking, like, whatever the excuses, you're not going to see, like, oh, wow, I didn't think of that. There's nothing that has gone wrong. We can change that right now. Yeah, we're good at that. Let's see if something went wrong.

I'm going to dial her number right now. Hopefully she picks up the phone. Here we go. Hey, is this ORA? Yes, who's this? Okay. This is a, we're a radio show. We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.

Hi, ORA. The whole show's here. Thanks for being on with us. Okay. Hi, I didn't. I don't think I signed up for anything. I don't. Yeah, you didn't.

No, you didn't. but one of our listeners kind of signed you up for something called a second date update. Okay. So if you're not familiar with that, it's a segment that we do on our show where we try to help people who've gone out with somebody one time, but they're not getting that second meetup and they're not sure why. We can call and try to figure out if there's a reason for it. Yeah. Does that make sense?

Yeah, I guess. We know you're really busy, so we won't keep you on. That's what we've heard. We're really good at these, by the way. We'll be efficient, okay? We'll get through this. Because we're calling about a guy that you went out with recently named Graham. I'm sorry.

I'm like super confused. Like, what is this? Great question. Well, yeah. The thing is, we spoke to Graham about your date. And we're just trying to figure out if there's a reason that the two of you haven't gone out again because you keep saying to him that you're busy. But not offering any solutions on when to meet up.

Yeah. I mean, I like, I already texted him. I said I was busy during the times he wanted to hang out. Okay. I think in his mind, when you say I'm busy, that's just like it can be a word that people use to brush somebody off if you're not actually wanting to see them, but you don't want to come off as being rude. Like I meant what I said. I'm just really busy. Okay.

Okay. But there's no way. I mean, like, I'm sorry. We're all really busy. But like when you meet somebody that you feel like you have this crazy connection with, you'll make time for them. Yep, but I'm not like canceling my plans. No, we're not asking you to do that, but he just asked us to call because it was unclear to him if you actually wanted to meet up. What's unclear?

I'm saying, okay, but I am busy. It's unclear if you like, I'm honestly still unclear whether you actually like him or not. I like him, but like I don't understand why like he needs a third party interjecting. That's fair. I said that I'm free. I'm just busy during the times he mentioned. Gotcha. I hear you and I don't want to be the third party interjecting whatsoever.

In fact, I'm scared. It's just like weird. Well, no, listen, Graham is actually the one I want you to talk to and it's perfect because he's right here on the other line listening waiting to jump in. Hey, Laura. I'm so confused. Like, what is happening? What's the deal with these like jobbers? you hired to like grow me about us.

Jobbers? Jabbers or Jabbers? Jabbers? Jobbers. I called you jobbers because like I don't know what you guys like. We are employed. It's not about us. It's like a yapper.

Okay. Graham, why don't you talk to her? Yeah, I didn't, I didn't hire them. It's just a radio show and they, you know, help people get in touch if they're having trouble getting together. Yeah, but like I told you I was busy a couple of times. Like, don't you think it's a little. extreme to like go on a radio station.

And honestly, whoever that guy was I've been talking to, like, did not seem prepared at all. He didn't know what I was talking about. And he, like, tried to nail down a date for you. Are you talking about Jeff? That's fine. Sometimes people need a common enemy. He could have come together.

Honestly, I'm with her. I wasn't doing a very good job. That was pretty crap. I'd give myself a D. I don't want you to feel bad. Or can't you think of this as like a kind of a romantic gesture? Like, he really wants to. to see you and he went to all this effort.

No, it's super weird. Oh, okay. Well, he said you guys had so much chemistry. I feel like you're so angry right now. Does this feel like the same person you went out with, Graham? Well, maybe not a little bit, but you guys have been kind of grilling her pretty hard. I mean, it's not a regular question. We can take the fall.

Yeah. No, no, no. That's okay. I mean, your intentions are great. That's fine. Well, so were yours, bro. I did have some bad intentions when I dialed. I'll be honest.

I brought some negative energy into this, and that's my fault. Negative or not, that's right. You are so guilty and you shouldn't be. Or is there anything we can do to come back from putting you out or making you feel weird, like you keep saying? You can stop asking me questions, and he can just ask me out. How about that? Okay. Okay.

All right. I think that's perfect. That's perfect. I'd love to hang out. And how about this weekend? Are you free, like, on Friday? I'm busy Friday. See, I knew it.

Okay. Keep going, Graham. Well, we'll have, how about Saturday? I've got something that day, but like, you should, and you probably need to know this, but I'm in, like, two other situationships. Oh, that's why you're so busy. Oh, that's, okay.

Well, now we know why she's so busy. Yeah. Oh, Graham, I'm sorry. Is that okay with you, Graham? Or let me ask you. You said you're already in two situations. So really, what does that mean? It means a lot of fun.

Oh. Wow. Finally softens up. Do you even have time for me then, or what? I'm free Sunday afternoon. Like, I can squeeze you in. Oh, wow. How romantic.

That's got to feel good, Graham. Hey. I'm not really sure if I want to be squeezed in between two other dudes. I mean, beggars, don't be choosers here. like you're the one who's late for the party, but it's still a party. Yay. Okay. She's clearly not rejecting you, but you're going to.

But she's offering you not much. Yeah. I'm single. Like, I don't have to, like, you're kind of single. I think we're all jealous of you are, if anything. I don't know. I don't know, Graham, I feel like you deserve more than this. Yeah, you do.

I don't know. Look, guys, I think I should just go with my gut and say. You only live once and let's do it. Oh, great. Bring it back Yolo. So you're open to a possible third situation ship with ORA. Well, I mean, if the third situation ship goes so well, maybe it'll just turn into a single situation ship.

Okay. That's really optimistic. Good for you. I mean, but that's the point of, like, dating. Like, you're supposed to, like, try new things and see what sticks. Okay. That's true. Yeah.

Well, great. Now, we're running out of time here. So I'm just curious, though, Oara, if he does go through with this, does that put him, like, in the third seat, like, the last place guy? Or does he need to do a trial run? And does he have to meet the other guys? Is there a Google Doc? Why would they meet the other guys? I don't know how it works with this.

No, that's so weird. No. Okay. If it works out, it works out. And if it doesn't, we had fun. Okay, great. I just want to be clear that we're setting our guy up for success here. So we would like to offer to send you guys out on a date.

and we would pay for it. Yeah, I mean, I'm down. Thank you. Not the grand romantic ending I was hoping for, Graham, but a lot more realistic. Yeah. You know, Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Iheart Radio is throwing it back. To the days of huge hits and unforgettable items.

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It's not where I wanted things to end. I'll tell you that. Yeah, but at least we got an answer to why she was busy. And I guess it's clear to Graham what he's walking into, right? Like, there's no mystery here anymore. I don't know if it is really clear, because we never really asked whether the, like, situation ships know about each other

or how serious they really were with anything. She seems pretty blunt, Jeff. I mean, she seems like she enjoys it for sure. Yeah. It's the one thing that made her smile during that entire call. And get, like, a weird sexy voice thing. Yeah.

How can you not when you're thinking about your harem of guys waiting for you? But I just have a feeling our boy Graham is going to be happy. settling for Sunday afternoon hangouts. Well, he's Sunday, boy, now. He's a pretty positive person. He might be okay with it. Actually, yeah.

I mean, it might end in a four-way marriage if it goes well enough. Sweet. Good for you, Graham. Keep us updated. But if you want help with your dating life, you can always email the show. We'll call that person who isn't calling you back. And go check out all of our second dates wherever you get your podcasts at Brooke and Jeffrey. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.

What's the perfect setting to have? A romantic first kiss. Aw. Maybe during a candle at dinner. Yes. Or on a moonlit walk down the beach. Or under the flickering fluorescent light in stall four of St. John's truck stop. There's a light flickering.

Is it like one of those flies happen? It's a romantic part. Set in the mood. I'm just saying everyone has a different idea of what that perfect moment looks like. Okay. But for one of our listeners, her first kiss happened out in Browndon. broad daylight. Whoa.

Probably with children watching. Oh, wait, what? And even though they arranged a second meetup, that meetup never happened. Oh, man. It's like stall number four all over again. So we're going to do everything in our power to get to the bottom of it in your second date update right after this. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.

Second date update. We've all heard of dating ultimatums where they put it all on the line and say, Either you put a ring on it or I'm gone. Okay, you have to pick. Is it me or your mom? Oh, my God. You can't have both. You're going to get dumped every time on both of those occasions, I feel like.

Well, if they really love you, they'll choose you. But it is pretty rare to give yourself a dating ultimatum. What? Like, that's it. If I don't find somebody by August, I'm just marrying my weighted blanket and calling it a life. Well, there could be worse options. That weighted blanket really... It really knows how to, like, hug you the right way.

But I bring it up because one of our listeners says she's on the precipice of giving up on dating forever. No, don't do it. Unless we can make this call work. What? That is so much on us. Why would you do that to us? Jackie, is that right? Yeah, that's completely right.

Okay, Jackie, don't come in all cheerful like you weren't just doomsday in that in that moment. No, this isn't, I'm not cheerful. I'm just letting you know that if this doesn't work out, I'm done. I am done. Have you heard how this segment goes? The odds aren't very high. Yeah. Yeah, I'm that desperate. I'm with you guys. Oh, okay.

Fair enough. We're all starting off on the same page, so I'm feeling more confident. Starting at rock bottom can only go up from here. Let's begin by learning the name of the guy that you met recently. The guy's name is Steve. We went on a date, like, last Thursday. Thursday. And is there something that stood out about Steve, or was it just not horrible? and that's why you're okay with it.

Well, yeah, pretty much. In the last couple months, I've been trying to say yes to anyone that asked me out. Oh, my God. Okay, cast a wide net sort of thing? Yeah, I'm putting myself out there. Okay. Like everybody tells you to. Right.

And most of them have been, eh, okay. But with Steve, it was actually a really good date. Oh, all right. I mean, I could even see the hope in your voice when you say that. Yeah. Not super hopeful, just like, not. the worst thing ever. So where was that day? It was really fun. We went to a farmer's market and we were just walking around like sampling

the foods and talking, laughing and having fun for, I don't know, hour and a half. Okay. Okay. This is good. It's a day date. Nobody's like drinking too much. I mean, did you meet there? Yes, we met at the farmer's market and then at the end he walked to you back to my car and, you know, normally I don't kiss someone on the first date, especially a day date. But the connection was really strong. You had a cute first kiss after a farmer's market date. Yes.

And then he looked at me in the eyes and said, I had a really great time and I want to see you again soon. Why didn't you keep hanging out after that? Yeah, you don't want eye contact when that happens. What, you want to look away in shame? Don't look at me. Yeah, that's usually. Of course you want eye contact.

Eye contact is so intimate and nice. Exactly. You believed them, right? I did and I told him that I had an amazing time and I would love to see him again. There it is again. What? It's too much. I didn't do anything.

It's not too much. He said I want to see you again. She said I want to see you again. That's not too much. I can see how maybe you would think that. But for a guy saying I really like you, it's the most terrifying thing in the world. He said that to me. Yeah.

But you're not supposed to say it back to him. Oh, my God. Jeff. What are you? 14? Brooke, I've done enough of these to know how to play the game. And being honest and open with how you really feel is the absolute worst thing you can do. See, I disagree.

That was not the problem because that same day, he texts me. And he said, Sunday, does that work? I'll pick you up for dinner. And maybe we can grab a drink after. Okay. I stand corrected possibly. Thank you. So what happened Sunday?

So I texted back, yes. 100% I'm in and gave him a little high-five emoji. And on Saturday, he texts me and says, hey, I'm going to have to cancel on Sunday. Sorry. Oh, my goodness. Did he try to reschedule?

No, he didn't say anything else doesn't explain nothing. And so I just texted back. No problem. Let's figure out another time. Did he respond to your... No, no response. Oh, boo, Steve. Come on.

How many days has that been? It's been a week now. Oh. Okay. But here's the thing. So this is the only guy. that I've connected with. And now he's ghosting me.

I mean, it's so unbelievably frustrating. Yeah. I mean, it sounds like you're doing this not just for Steve, but to make up for every other bad thing that has happened in his day. Like, you need this to go right. And I really just want to know why. I mean, like, what happened?

Right. Right. Well, you said it's been a week. Maybe he's learned something about you in between that period of time. Like, you don't have to answer this, but have you served time in prison at all? That could be hot, though. I mean, if it's from the right crime. Yeah, like even like a minor offense?

No, I have not. Okay. No prison. Is there anything that's available online to the public that somebody could come across and might be like, oh, God, this is a red flag? Seriously, there's nothing that I can think of. Okay. Okay.

Well, this is definitely a mystery. Maybe he just had a bad reaction to the Baba Ginoosh you guys had in the farmer's market. I wasn't able to recover. I don't even know what that is. Is that your food of choice of farmers market? I don't know. I was just at a hummus stand last weekend. Hot, yes.

So let's come back. We're definitely got kisses from her husband after that. Oh, totally. We're going to come back and call Steve for you here and hopefully get an explanation for why he isn't arranging a second date or let you give up on dating forever. That's what she wants. Yeah, no, you're right.

No, that's where I'm at. I'm doing. I'm hopeful. Yes. Push you back from the cliff and let me get your second date update right after this. Hold on. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Second date update.

Today, the entire future of a woman's dating life lies inside of our tender throats. Oh, no. Our throats? Because if we don't say the right thing and get Steve to agree to another date, Jackie has already said she is ready to give up. on finding love forever. Oh, man. We definitely don't need to tell Steve this.

No, but I'm sure that won't happen anyway, because they went to a farmer's market, hot, you know. Sober. Walked around, had a great eye contact the whole time. Soup's hot. See, hot and organic, Jeff. They laughed, even planned out another date. After telling each other, they both wanted to see each other again.

That's what's confusing. You forgot the great first kiss. Yeah. That was such a big deal. That was like the moment. I thought when I said farmer's market, kissing was implied. Oh. Because who doesn't?

But it was all going according to plan until the day before their second date when Steve texted canceling with no explanation and then went dark. So Brooke, your thoughts on the situation at hand? Oh, God. I just feel like it's not going to be good if he's in a different relationship. Like if he's cheating or... Well, hold on, Brooke. How can he cheat if they've only gone on one date? No, no, no.

Not cheating on her, cheating on whoever he's dating. Cheating on someone else. You're saying Jackie could be the other woman. Well, I mean, it's just like a day date. Jackie, are you cool with being the other woman? Absolutely not. You didn't say that. It is good to check.

All right. Hopefully that's not what the situation is. No, I don't want it to be that. I don't. I hope it's just busy at other farmers markets. Oh, that's it. Scoping out the best spots with the best ober jeans or whatever Brooke likes to eat. ass, is he a farmer?

Yeah. Does he work there? He is not a farmer. Okay, all right. We've ruled out a couple possibilities. Let's just call him and see if he picks up. I'm dialing his number right now. Here we go.

Hey, is this Steve? Yeah, who's this? Hey, man. What's up, Steve? Good morning. You're on a radio show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Oh, great. We're going to take that without any sarcasm attached to it.

But I like your style already, Steve. I can tell. What's going on? Well, what's going on is this is a segment that we do called a second date update. I don't know if you've ever heard of that before. Nope. Okay. I'll just have a few words.

Keep going. Okay. But it's actually kind of a fun thing that we do where we help out listeners who are confused after they're not getting a call back for a second date. We try and help them figure out the reason why. Okay. There's a woman that you went out with. recently. Actually, you planned a second date with her, but

canceled the last minute. Her name's Jackie. I don't really want to talk about this. Oh, no. Hold on, bro. Is this sensitive to you? Oh. I feel bad. Can I ask? Are you single?

Brooks dying to ask. Brooks says it with so much hope. Here's a deal. Oh, no. Wait a minute. Oh, God. What? What's the deal?

I did have a strong connection with her, but if she knew what was going on, it would probably hurt her feelings. So it's better left unsaid. Oh, well, I'm trying to protect someone's feelings hurt some more. Like, you may want to be direct. That's true. I think her feelings already hurt. Yeah, that's the truth. Because she was really looking forward to that second hangout, and when you canceled with no explanation,

Now she's just kind of confused. Yeah, she was all excited. Doesn't know where she stands. We're just trying to give her a little bit of information. It's just I had a stronger romantic connection with somebody else, and I didn't think it would be fair to her to continue. Oh, my God. You are so disgusting.

You're disgusting. That's pretty normal, Jackie. Okay, everybody, okay, everybody was on the call right now. Now, let's try and be respectful and hear Steve out. I can't listen to this anymore. Steve is a cheater. You're a cheater. Just tell him that Jackie's on the phone.

Hold on. No, he knows it's me. He knows it's me. And I know a cheater when I smell one. Oh, you smell him. Wait, wait, wait, wait. I think that's my fault, Jackie. Hold on.

What? I feel like I put that idea in your head. He didn't say he cheated. He just said that he went out with someone else and had a stronger connection. He didn't quite get us. Whatever. He was going to cheat on me eventually. He was a too. Hold on. You're making a lot of assumptions here, Jackie.

And I know you're definitely hurt by what you heard, but let's give Steve a chance to explain himself. I spoke my piece. I don't have much else to say. Okay. You know what, Steve, I have what to say. Oh, God. Oh, God. So when we were walking around the farmer's market and I didn't want to drink some water fountain because it's like public and gross, you never offered to buy me a drink.

What? What was up with that? She's like holding on to that? Where'd that come from? No, he's selfish. He's selfish, and he's probably selfish in bed. Whoa. Whoa, Jackie, you are all over the place right now.

I understand your feelings are hurt because this didn't turn out how you wanted it to, but this is not the reaction that you are going to want to have. And honestly, I've never made that correlation before with guys not being good in bed that don't buy water for their women. Well, you know, you're also a guy. Oh. Yeah. Well, that's fair. And Jeff loves water.

I am. I'll tell you. I drink it all to myself. Jeremy, can you confirm that you're a selfish guy? Oh, sorry. Steve, can you confirm that you're a selfish guy? I don't know what's happening. Yeah.

I just want to know what's your take on this whole situation. When on a good day, I just had a stronger connection with someone else. I'm sorry. Okay. Oh, great. You're rubbing that in my face again. Okay. Rubbed it in your face, Jackie.

You know what? He is. He's rubbing. get in my face, he chose a whirr over me. Oh, wow. You don't even know who went out with. We don't know.

She was probably a lovely person. I mean, you guys, what are you doing? You're like spinning this to make him the victim. He is not the victim here. It's just a victim of circumstance at this point. It's just how dating works. Yeah.

Sometimes you meet somebody you like more. I don't think he's in a, like, a committed relationship with this other person. It sounds like just a casual date, right, Steve? I really don't think I should say anymore. You know what? You know what's really sad? I really wanted to see your basement.

I never got to see your basement. Basement? Now you're just saying random. Basement. Did he offer a tour of a basement? You shouldn't say yes to that. I was kind of thinking the same thing. I wonder what's in his basement.

No, Jeff. Come on, Steve, tell them. What is he talking about? I have a movie room in my basement. And we talked about that. Oh, like a little. theater room. Apparently, she had a lot of hopes based around that movie room.

Oh, my God. I didn't get to see it. Oh, no. Steve, don't say it has a little popcorn maker in there, too. I bet you. I was all on Steve's side until he just poured salt in the wound. Oh, yeah. Salt all over that popcorn.

Okay. You know, you know what? I'm sorry, it's a dope basement, and yes, I have multiple flavored salt. Ooh. Wow. Wow. You got that ranch family. You need to go.

Oh. You need to show now. All right, hang up. I think maybe you just need to work on yourself right now, Jackie. Yeah. Let's do a little self-reflecting. Yeah, I second. No, no, no.

You know, Steve, I'm deleting your text. I'm blocking your number. You're never going to hear from me again. And I want you to know you lost out on something really good. Yeah, really good, really stable type of relationship. So, Steve, I'm sorry, dude. It's fine. I feel like I dodged a bullet.

It's like I'm watching the Matrix. Hang up on him. Oh, wow. You said hang up on him. I said hang up on him. Okay. All right. I don't want to hear from him.

Hang on. Okay, Steve, you're dead bag. You're gone. All right. We dropped Steve. Oh, wow. Okay, Jackie, oh, my God. He is a cheater girl.

No, don't add on. Oh, wow. No, no, no, no. You guys, honestly, it's fine. It's fine. I know men. After that, he is definitely going to reach out to me.

Wait, what? Like a little crazy. I mean, that's actually kind of true. I think the little is a different definition. Emphasis on a little. Are you saying you put all of that on just to like get him to call you? I mean, I just did up a little bit, but I'm legitimately pissed. Oh.

That was a little bit? I can't imagine what a lot. I know. I'm afraid to see full blown. All right. Well, Jackie, after you take your hiatus from the dating world, call us and we can reach out to that next guy for you. Yeah.

No, I'm going to hear from Steve. Oh, you're going to hear you. You heard about that basement, right? It is pretty dumb. I don't blame you. I'm not going to block him, and then he's going to call me, and you guys will end up doing an update, update on me. Oh, that's a bold statement. About your healthy relationship.

Yeah. I'm sure. The direction this is going to go. You manifest a lot differently than I do. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Hi-Hard Radio wants to send you and a friend. to experience Luke Colmes. When the sky is blue.

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I don't know, man. She went zero to 100 though. And then she said she like what, sauceed it up, juiced it up? I don't know what she did. She had some. It was all on purpose. It was an emotional roller coaster and I'm exhausting. The second he mentioned a stronger connection with another woman.

She completely went off the handle. Yeah. But, oh man, wouldn't it be something though if after all of this, she was right. That he did call her back? Yeah, like Steve thinks about it and he's like, you know what? She's kind of unhinged, but I kind of like it.

Also, I would have cheated. Yeah, she's right on every level. Only way Steve's calling her back is if it doesn't work out with the other girl. Yeah. And then I could see it may be happening. And then it's like a hookup thing probably. Sure. It's probably a less than 1% chance that it all goes the way that she's thinking.

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