Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - Second Date Update Classics: Twitchers Not Tweakers + Lobster Lunges

Episode Date: September 6, 2025

Part 1 Is it a green flag or a red flag when your date brings BINOCULARS on a first date? Our listener on the phone today said it’s a GREEN FLAG and he’ll tell us more about their magical experience coming up.Part 2 The guy in today’s Second Date knew a WEIRD amount of personal info about his date before they met up. He says it’s not creepy and entirely REASONABLE. Judge for yourself in the podcast! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And we're just so glad you're here. Really, really, we are. And on Saturdays, we always feature two classics back-to-back, so you get a little more bang for your buck. Not that you're paying anything for this. It's free. You're getting a lot of bang for your buck then. Yeah. It's a good deal.

It's a hundred percent bang-to-back. USA. Okay, so what are our comments before we launch in? Yeah, Sean Spedding said you guys should work seven days a week from a drunk Scotsman, he said. So you know what? Leave. You're not invited to this party anymore, okay? Yeah, we're trying to riddle down to one day a week, guys. Sounds like he's at his own party. He's already drunk. I do love a good drunk Scotsman. I'm not going to lie. All right. Your double second date classics, start right now. Is it a green flag or a red flag if your date brings a pair of binoculars to the meetup. I think that's always a red flag.

Really? But that means they're not spying on you because you're right next to them. For me, it's a big red flag, but I'm bringing them too. Oh, got it. With a tub of country crock. Wait, what?

I said it's a red flag. Yeah, totally. But for one of our listeners, it's a giant green flag because they both use them. What? Not the butter, just the binoculars. And he claims what they're

were looking at was a magical experience that bonded them together for life. Wow. With a quote like that, you can understand why she's not texting him back. You're gonna find out what they did in your second date update coming up right after this. Second date update. Sometimes you go out on a date and after, you're not really sure if it went well or not. Yeah, that's pretty common. But other times, you leave feeling like, even though you got arrested,

and taste. You hit that thing out of the park. Yeah. Barely peed myself when the electrode went into my leg. That's actually impressive. Yeah, I feel pretty good about it. Just a pedal. I'm proud of you.

And we got an email from a guy who said, this was definitely, even though he thinks of himself as a boring guy, this was the most exciting date of his entire life. The best feeling ever. When you're like all smiles and you can't stop rethinking about it. Dude, exciting. And I can't wait.

you hear what happened. This is when you never get a call back? Is it perfect? You think it peaked? You peaked at date one. Is that the problem? Mickey, what made the date so amazing for you? Well, I'll tell you what was so amazing about it is when we first started, we spotted an entire

family of American gold finches. Oh. Oh, no. Oh, you're a bird. You're a bird guy. Oh, goldfinches. Goldfinches. Those are nice birds.

Oh, they're amazing And it was like the first thing we saw And I was like, oh my God Special Oh It's not exactly what I thought You were going to say About why the date was amazing

Was there were birds Hey, you're a bird guy, I'm like, come on It caught me off guard What was her excitement level At the Golden Finch family? American goldfinches Whatever

She seemed to be very interested But it was even more amazing The thing about this date Is it kept on getting better because as we started walking away, I had been for so long trying to spot. Yes. A very rare bird that you would see around here, a cedar wax wing. A cedar wax wing.

Where is this date happening? Halfway through the date. I like the little chuckle to himself in the middle of remembering this story. This all sounds very, very exciting, Mickey. And we want to hear more. But maybe we need to get a little context first because we don't even know this woman's name yet. is one bird watcher going crazy on the text absolutely so what is your date's name

Tiffany Tiffany Tiffany okay did you meet Tiffany Tiffany on a bird watching forum uh well no I didn't meet her I met her on a dating app and you know she was a nature lover but she wasn't like a Twitter like me which is you know someone that watches birds is called

a twitcher yeah that's an official thing is called that's why it's called Twitter or it was Twitter and the bird was the logo Twitcher it's a Twitter yeah I I had no idea. Google it. I was thinking a tweaker. No. Those are the people that live behind your house in Idaho. Well, I know. That's what made me think of home.

Okay. Okay. So you met Tiffany on a dating app. How did you guys get to this bird family that you found? Well, we met up at a park. And that's what it was so amazing about it is, you know, we start off with the American Goldfinch family. and then within 20 yards there's the cedar waxwing and it was a perfect example

the yellow belly that fades into the rose-colored chest and the beef. Do you know what? Wow. I hate to interrupt your excitement. I hate that you interrupted too. No, but listen, what I think is cool about this is that it's really good to have a passion and to show a passion off to somebody.

Like that can be a turn-on even if she's not a twitcher, right? What a useless comment. You interrupted his bird description to say that. What else do you want to know about the yellow belly? No, tell us more. Tell us more about the... Are you serious?

It was amazing because as soon as it saw us, it started the very distinctive that high and thin whistling troll that it does. Oh, wow. Can you give us a sample? Yeah. Did it sound like this? Oh. No. It's much higher pitch.

Sorry. I can't... Wait, are you calling us to find the birds again or... Oh, girl. I don't know. Sounds like it's mating season for the birds. I don't know. It might be made a season in here soon if we keep talking about this.

I mean, it sounds like you were super into the birds. Were you able to connect with? Tiffany? Good work. I'm sorry, I got birds on my mind. I think she was enjoying the nature walk and she looked great. I mean, she just fit so well into the background of nature that was right in front of us. It was amazing.

Okay, you described more about the nature behind her than what she actually looked like. I think that was a compliment. Yeah, I do. She silhouetted well against. the beautiful backdrop. Well, we were talking about families and everything. But again, this is why I was saying this was like the most incredible date I ever been on. As we started to talk about the families, I look up and there it is right in front of us,

a rose-breasted ghost stick. What? All three in the same day. You do not see these at this time of year. And it was right there. And it was just fantastic. And I was like, this is amazing. If nature is assembling for you like that, that is a really good indicator.

One time a seagull pooped on me, I don't know, that's the same type of. That's actually good luck. Oh, okay, there you go. The Twitter approves. I was with my husband at this time. Wow, look at it. Was it an eagle or a hawk? I just said a seagull.

Okay. I literally just said it. This does have moments of romance in it at least. Where? Yeah, the nature. They're together. There's passion that's shared. The breasted bird.

Yes. The birds are singing to each other, and that's something. So how did this nature walk end? Yeah. After a while, we went back to our cars, and I gave her a nice little hug and talked about how great the day was. Yeah, what she said. What's really weird is I haven't heard back from her in about about a week or so after

we went on our walk. I went back to that area, and the strangest thing was, I don't think I saw one bird at all the whole time I was out there. It was like the birds had come for us, and if she wasn't with me, they weren't going to come back. Wow, that was actually this week. Maybe it was just you went a little bit too hard on the birds. Not possible. No, you don't think so.

You can never go too hard on birds. I mean, that was definitely it, guys, but she's an animal lover. So the birds also, I don't think, could be the deal breaker. No, no, that's true. You know what I mean? And I'm going to guess all his dating picks were of birds. Ah, yeah, yeah, maybe she'd be. Let's tell her what's happened since then and that the birds all know.

miss them as a couple. All right. We're going to tell the bird is the word, Jeff. It is. And we're going to do it with your second date update when we call her right after this. Hold on. Second date update.

So if you're just tuning in for the second date update, you know that I'm a bird guy. Oh, we do, Jeff. I appreciate a ruby throated nut hatch just like the rest of us. But not on the same level as Mickey, who recently took a woman named Tiffany

out for a nice little nature hike date. And we heard a lot about the majestic, rare birds that they saw during their walk together. Yeah, he like geeked out over him. Really? Yeah. I mean that in a positive way. He twitched out, Brooke. Yes. That's right. He is a twitch. We didn't

honestly hear too much about Tiffany his date, but he claims that she really enjoyed the experience, and he thought it was the best date that he has ever been on. More importantly, the birds agree. They ship their relationship so much that they haven't even reappeared

at that park every time he's gone back. Dang. It was a sign. That's how you're taking it, right? Well, of course. Nature is really in command of everything, and birds are basically their harbingers, and they're the best indicators of things that will happen in the future.

No, that's great. This is a dating segment, though, so we probably should get to the part where we call about the date. We still know nothing about the date. Like Tiffany and that's air. She looked good in front of trees. I know what else do you need to know? That's really good.

But we're going to have you back on for, Brooke Jose and Alexis's podcast so you can tell more about your bird experience You can say no out loud You can just take my spot on that one You can take over a bird hour on my stream We have a whole hour Oh I would love to

Okay We're gonna stay in touch for that But let's call Tiffany in the meantime And ask her why she's not calling you back So here we go Hello Hey we're looking to talk with Tiffany This is Tiffany

My name is Jeff And you're on a radio show right now It's called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning Hello There's more There's actually four of us Yeah Only half of this room is enthusiastic

About making this call I was getting her chance to reply Thank you We're just like listening It's what people do that are polite In a conversation Jeff Wow you guys sound dysfunctional Yep

You nailed it That's what you get When you listen to Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning We put the fun in dysfunctional We're not going to say that We're not just calling to waste your time We're doing a segment called the second date update Because we hear that

You went out on a date with one of our listeners Name Mickey Oh yeah Yeah Oh yeah A nature walk sounded delightful He said that it seemed like you were having a really great time Was that true?

It was weird It was really weird In what way? Because he told us all about it. And for us, it sounded less weird and more magical and majestic. It was weird. I mean, you know. Okay.

We're going back. Just repeated it. Not majestic weird. I would hear specific examples of what you mean. Okay. Well, I appreciate hearing about people's hobbies and passions. But then when it crosses the line into obsessions, that can be different. Oh.

Are you talking? about him being a, what is it called, Twitcher? A bird, a bird guy? Yeah, he's really like a little too much into birds. I don't think that's a thing in the bird community. I'm not even going to lie. I once had a boss

that jumped on a desk with a pair of binoculars because they saw a bird out the window. Oh my gosh. And Brooke still hooked up with that guy. It was a woman. She was my friend's mom. Woman, whatever. Yeah, Brooke doesn't know. I didn't.

So that was too much of a turnoff for you that he was too passionate about his hobby? Yeah, I mean, he's a cute guy, like, but maybe he was too much in his element. I mean, I asked him to go back to my place with me. Oh, wow. Oh, so you actually liked him that

much. Just like Brooke, sensation. Yeah. Bird action. I thought maybe, like, to get him away from the birds, I was going to maybe, like, have a drink, something to eat, just hang out, like, see if he was different in a different setting. Yeah, that's

awesome. Okay. And So he asked me, hey, do you have the food network? Yeah, why? He's like, well, there's this episode I want to show you where they actually sample some of the birds that we saw today. Oh, my gosh. Wait, what? Breast and Finch.

They eat us? Isn't that weird? Can you eat those? I don't think they're like endangered or protected, right? You're telling me the bird lover wanted to watch episodes of the food network where they eat those exact birds? Yeah, I mean, doesn't it. that kind of not makes sense?

I don't know. It's weird. What do you say, Squab is a pigeon, it's very in delicacy. Circle of life, he just wants to know everything about the bird,

including what it tastes. He said on his own time. Possibly, or is there a chance that you misheard what he said? We should probably get some clarification. Maybe it was a joke. You know, that's a funny joke. That could be too.

It doesn't seem like a joky guy at all, maybe that's why you don't read his jokes is jokes. It's all dry all the time. Maybe it's a joke. whole time he was joking with us. Oh, okay. The story was true. Let's just clear all this up because I do need to let you know, Tiffany, that Mickey has

been listening quietly on the other line waiting to talk to you. All right. Tell us the punchline, Mickey. Yes. I have been listening. Tiffany, first of all, there's nothing weird about being a Twitcher or a birdwatcher. Just so you know, the North American Birdwatching Association has over 100,000 members in the Northwestern region alone.

But, Mickey, hold on. Out of the 100,000 whatever members, how many of those members are eating the birds? Yeah, like, is it a catch and release thing? I think probably the four chefs on the network. Because I think that was the weird part to her. This is another thing. I can't understand you're laughing about this.

People eat chicken all the time to eat turkey. Not a problem at all, right? That's okay. I got you. The chicken eaters are the weirdos. We get it. Okay. Before you mock this,

Have you ever had Carolina rub on a black cap chickadee before? I don't know. I'm not even going to let. I'm backing here. A chickadee? That one sounds delicious. I'm going to agree with you. Chickadees are tiny.

Listen. Have you had a quail? A quail is tiny and they're so good. What is going on? Are you guys really supporting this? Do you hear how weird this is? What's weird about it, though? He just wanted to watch the show, and it was something you guys had connected

on. He's just trying to show you what he's interested in. You're right, Brooke. Nothing is wrong with eating birds in a park. It's basically like an all-you-can-eat buffet when you walk through one of them. He's going to eat them in the park. They were going to bring them home and cook them for later. Totally normal. Hey, hey, it's not as weird as you think.

I mean, you go fishing. What's the difference? You're throwing a line. Tiffany just wanted a cocktail at a bar with the guy. He's really just wanted to be normal. That's the thing is, Mickey, you want to date with Tiffany. She found it a little bit odd that you wanted to consume the animals that you love so much. And when she wanted to take you back to her place, you were more concerned about Netflix than other things that should be probably involved. Well, first of all, it's the food network. Yeah.

Right. I'm sorry. I don't know. I think this guy could give you a lot of great stories and a lot of fun that you would not necessarily find on your own. Yeah. I'd rather go out of my comfort zone in different ways. I don't, this is not feeling right to me. I think we're talking about eating animals in the nature too much.

I think let's just, let's just circle back to the romantic parts of the date. Yeah. Where you guys were talking about things. Do you remember, Tiffany, when I complimented the red tips on your hair, have it look just like the red tips on the Cedar Wax Wings' feathers? Wow. Oh, my God. So did you eat that bird, too?

No, you don't eat a waxwing. Stop it. A pelican, maybe, but not a waxing. That's off the menu. You see, you have a lot to learn about birds and about love, Tiffany. And Mickey can be your Sherpa on that journey. He can be your flamingo. I would call him a hunter.

Whatever he is. He will be your guide on the journey of love and bird culinary cuisine. So we would love to offer to send you on another date with him, and we would pay for it. I'm going to have to pass. It's going to be a steakhouse. There's no birds on the menu. Or salads only, maybe. Yeah, I don't think we have enough in common

And I, this is really all I have to say about it Okay We tried Hey man, Mickey Sorry, buddy, Mickey I better not see her outside of a Kentucky side chicken Or anything like that Oh, that's right

You shame her if you do Yeah, give a lot of better birds easy Yeah, exactly Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning My name is Ed, everyone say hello Ed From a very rural background myself my dad is a farmer and my mom is a cousin, so like, it's not like... What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club?

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and deep-fried meadowlark right there. We do not have recipes for that. Oh, guidelines, whatever. Can I just get like a steamed Blue Jay? Yeah. That sounds good. It does. You are welcome for that information.

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You could hear all of our second dates up on Spotify, Apple Podcasts. Wherever you get yours, you can find them at Brooke and Jeffrey. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Everyone here agrees that it's totally acceptable and even smart to do a little background search on any potential date before you meet up with them. Oh, yeah. You know, a quick scan of their socials. Maybe check out their employment status on LinkedIn. Or in Brooks case, just ask your mom if your cousin is still STD-free.

That's the status thing. I do not date my relative. Yeah, he took a shower. I think he's fine. You guys are the worst. One of our listeners says that before he went out on his date, he knew not only where she lived, but also where she worked. And that's how we met her. That's not good.

He says it's not creepy, and there's a totally reasonable explanation for it. They all do, don't they? He's going to explain why in your second date update. Next. A lot of people say dating in the workplace is a big no-no. Yeah. But then more people get married in the same. the workplace than ever.

Brooke learned that the really, really hard way. But what if you're dating in your live space? Like with your roommate? No, I'm not saying your roommate. I'm saying like in the same building as where you live. I think that's fine. If that goes wrong, it's not going to be awkward, right? Well, I think it's all fine.

Well, I don't know if I'm going to ask. Brooks like, hump everyone. I mean, that's the situation that our new friend Brian is in. And I want to get all the deets on it. Brian, what's up, man? Can I call you Dirty B? What? Yeah, sure.

Oh, right. You agreed to that, Brian. Brooke's just jealous because you took her nickname. All right, Dirty B. Tell us about the girl that you met. What's her name? Her name's Stephanie. Okay.

What floor does she live on? She lives on the ground floor. Oh. Okay, she's a budget girl. I see. Lives dangerously. Facing the alley. Well, I would know the budget because, you see,

I am the, resident manager of the building. Oh, bro, this just made it extra weird. Yeah, that's different than just living in the same building. I don't know.

That's a lot of power that you have. Yeah, you control stuff. Dude, you can get keys to your apartment and just go in. Why don't get creepy ideas? That sounds like something I think of very much more you. That's not how you met, Stephanie, right?

He was in her place. Just waiting in her living room. She got home from work. Oh, man, this is going to go south quick then. Oh, sorry. We're all piling. J.D.B. Sorry, go ahead.

Tell us about how you and Stephanie met. Well, we met because she's a new tenant. Right. I'm the one who showed her the unit. I'm the one who filled out her leave. And did you have a, yeah, did you have a crush on her as soon as you saw her? Oh, I don't know if I want to admit this. So that's a yes.

Before she even came in, sometimes when tenants, you know, they'll pre-screen them. And every once in a while, I'll look up there. name because they'll be like, they'll pre-qualify over online. I did see her on social media, and I was like, look at this. You thought she was hot and you're like pre-qualified. It's basically every once in a while when there's a tenant whose name is female and is in this right age range. The background check, a very, very detailed deep dive on a background check.

You want to make sure that there's a real person coming in and that they're not locked about who they are in their position and stuff. A lot of people do it. Or her last status is like, I burned my own. apartment down got to look for a new one so what was your read on stephanie so i mean she looked very presentable so i'm you know we went through the process she wanted to get the place i said great and then i was kind of crushing on her a little bit and and then i noticed on her application where she works right she has a couple different jobs but one of them is this yoga place so i

might have i might have shown up at the yoga place i'm with you still with you man If you know what you want, you've got to go out and get it. I think Ursula the Sea Witch said that. So keep going. You're not doing anything illegal here. Just want to say, you can legally go to a yoga studio. How long has Stephanie lived in the building at this point? This is probably two weeks in.

Oh, really quick that you're moving things forward. Okay. Well, I'm just going to a yoga place. What was her reaction when she saw you in her yoga studio? Well, she actually didn't really recognize me. She was looking at me, but she wasn't immediately like, Oh, my God, Brian. Why would she, bro?

Yeah, I feel like you want to avoid your landlord at all costs. Yeah. No, actually, I didn't think of that, Alexis. It made me the opposite where she's like, oh, my God, my landlord's here. I don't know. You only met him once for the walkthrough, basically, of the place and handing the keys over. That was the reaction Brian was hoping to get, clearly. You know, I'm not a bad-looking guy, so it's not like I'm some, you know, weird living in the basement kind of, you know, landlord.

You're in their shirtless with yoga pants. So I'm like, oh, I didn't see you here. So I'm there, and I haven't really done this yoga before. I mean, I was shocked how hard it was to hold certain poses or even to get into them. So I'm sweating. I'm shaking. Yeah. And obviously she sees me.

And then she recognizes me. She's like, wait, are you, wait, don't you, aren't you in the, and I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah. She recognized you when you were in the pretzel position, but not when you were standing up. Right. So I felt it was kind of stupid. about obviously, you know, not being a successful practitioner, but she ended up walking with me back.

Oh, that's good. And on the way back, I asked her if she wanted to get a bite, if she was hungry. Okay, so you made the transition to asking her out on a date. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I sure did. Hey. She said, yes. So we went, yes. We went to dinner. Good.

And I felt like it was a fun date. We didn't really talk about anything too deep. We didn't get into any subjects that were stimulating and unique. We just kind of generally spoke. Can I ask what type of food did you go grab with her? Are you worried he's inexperienced with that, too? No, it needs to be hot girl food, like sushi or something. We had seafood.

We went to a really nice seafood place. Okay. That's classy. Yeah, it is classy. And you're saying that you guys didn't get into. a deep conversation, but I think that that's okay on a first date. Like, what was the vibe by the end of the night?

You know, I felt like we were getting along. We definitely laughed. We were joking about a few different things. Nice. And I wasn't sure exactly how it was going to end. So we were walking back. Obviously, we were going to the same place. Right. I mean, it's so easy to

like come over to my place. Is this where you pulled out the keys to her apartment and got yourself in? No. Let me let's do into your place. So I, you know, I wasn't sure if maybe it was going to be like a kiss or something, but she pretty quickly was like, thank you so much for the night, and then boom, the doors closed, curtains of the window are shut.

That's so fun. That's fine. You don't have to kiss. She's on the ground floor. You always got to shut your curtains when you're down there. Did you walk around and look through her windows? She did the dead bolt. She started nailing the door shut.

That doesn't sound like the best ending to the night. But again, it's okay to not kiss on the first date. I'm actually with Jose on this one. It doesn't always happen. Maybe she was nervous. She could have been intimidated. Who knows, yeah? Yeah.

That sounds like what it is. We'll confirm that when we reach out to her and get your second date update right after this. Second date update. We're on the phone with Brian the property manager with restraint. What? Soon to turn into a restraining order, possibly. Oh, my God. That is going so hard.

For now, he's using restraint and not using the company keys to enter his date's apartment. Yeah, because that is highly illegal. I'm giving him a bad time. We all are. Brian has been... Go on into her apartment, bro. He's been a really, really good sport, even though we've been joking around with him. He did ask out one of his tenants, though.

New tenants. They went out to a nice seafood place, had a great time. But the end of the night was kind of brief. Because she just said, thank you. you for dinner and shut the door to her apartment pretty quickly. Yeah. And that was pretty much the end of it. Now he's looking to us for answers.

By the way, can we just ask her quick? Have you not run into her in the building at all since your date? Well, I saw her leaving once, but I don't think she saw me. With your binoculars, you respond? Yeah. He's like, I was in a bush. She was climbing out down through the window. Stop it.

I'm just kidding, man. Don't worry. We will talk you up to her. Yes, definitely. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're about to call her, but I am not going to mention, and I don't think anyone in this room should mention that Brian found out where she worked from the application. No.

No. Because that is not going to come off well. Thank you, yeah. Even though it was a background check, it definitely looks really bad. I mean, honestly, if you want to keep up that lie, you need to keep going to yoga, which would probably be good for you. It sounds like your hips are very tight. Kind of a win-win. Yeah.

On a scale of 1 to 10, how loose are your hips? I'd give it a nice 7. Wow. Wow. Bricky wrong. That's pretty good. All right. All right.

Keep in that yoga class, then. Let's try and get you a date. All right. Here we go. I'm going to call it right now. Hello. Hi. Is this Stephanie?

Yes. Hey, Stephanie. We heard you teach a yoga class, and we're very tight-hipped people over here. We're hoping that we could be stretched out a little bit. This is where we're starting? Yeah, why not? Okay. Hi, Stephanie.

Hi. Yeah. We were recommended to you by someone who's taking your class before named Brian. Sorry. Are you guys trying to call the studio? No. No, we were given your direct line from Brian because we're trying not just to sign up for yoga class, but also trying to figure out if we could get you back on another date with him.

Yeah. We didn't mention we're a radio show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, I thought that might come off a little weird. So, Brian reached out to us because he told us a little bit about the day that you two hung out. And the lovely seafood dinner that you went to. Okay, I'm curious as to what you heard.

Pretty simple stuff, honestly. Yeah, to give you a snapshot of it is that he ended up meeting you and taking your yoga class. Then you parlayed that into a seafood dinner. date date and then after that he walked you home he said conversation was light people were laughing well he was laughing oh okay he's a funny guy weren't laughing not really i mean i guess we have different sense of humor okay okay did you find him unfunny yeah kind of ah well that's not good can you tell us what happened well he took my yoga class and it took me a minute to like noticed it was him, and I felt really bad for him because he was really struggling, you know,

but I gave him some kudos for making it through the whole lot. Yeah, just even showing up, right? Yeah, exactly. And then, you know, he asked me out to dinner and told me that he knew about this really nice seafood restaurant and, like, was hyping me up and inviting me out. Yeah, you know, and I was excited, all right? So we get to the seafood restaurant, and it's a red lobster. Oh.

Hey, my grandpa still thinks those are really, really nice. Yeah. Sounds like you were unimpressed. I mean, he kept talking about, like, the best seafood. He did all this research online, and they get all this fresh, everything's fresh every day. Well, but, I mean, come on. He tried, and that's his opinion of something nice, you know, like, maybe he's not a guy who is a real foodie, right? Yeah.

And his defense, it was fresh when they caught. it, and then they freeze it, and they mail it around. You got to ask the name of the restaurant before you go on a date. Oh, I guess, I guess. But you mentioned, though, that he was laughing during the date, and you weren't. What was that about? So at one point, I was like, I asked him if it was just coincidence that he showed up to my yoga class. Oh, you asked him.

What did? He got really weird, and he started playing with his lobster and putting it in yoga positions going, And look, a downward lobster. You didn't laugh at it. That's awesome. That's pretty funny. Come on. Just a visual.

Not when I'm asking them a serious question and he's like diverting it by trying to be funny. Maybe with the bib on it comes off with childish. The crayfish and a sun salutation. Not funny. I mean, okay. I mean, he tried to make a funny joke and it didn't land. Oh, my God. Is that really like not worth giving him another chance?

It's still making me laugh. I know. Prawns and mountain pose. Boy, these shrimp and bad backs, all of our bent over. Right? You know, and if that wasn't bad enough, something else happened. Oh, what happened? Okay, you know, I mean, I've heard enough, I think.

Oh, I guess you better tell her. Hi, Brian. Sorry. Stephanie Brian has been actually listening on the other line this whole time. That's great. He's supposed to wait, but. That's awesome. Sorry.

Yeah, he's there. I think he needed to hear it, Stephanie. I want to hear the rest of the story. Yeah, me too. Oh, yeah. What else happened? I don't need to hear the rest of the story. I think I'm good.

I think I got the gist of it. Oh. Do you know what she's going to say? I would be so... Yeah, of course he doesn't want to hear the rest of it because he probably doesn't want me to say it on the radio. Why? What'd you do, bro?

Did he do something inappropriate? I didn't do anything inappropriate, okay? Dude, he stuck me with the bill. Oh. Like, stuck the bill to your body or... No, like, I paid for dinner. Oh. Brian, you're the one that asked her out.

You're the one that picked the spot. Okay, my question is, what's wrong with that? What? He invited me up. Look, I don't make, I mean, I get, like, compensation for certain things, you know, discounted rent, et cetera. But, you know, like, I know how much Stephanie makes from her application. What?

Well, no, but hear me out. I know it sounds bad, but she has a bunch of side hustles. She has, like, main income. What does that have anything to do? with anything that's really creepy that you know that I make more than you oh yeah I don't know if it's creepy he saw it on your application it doesn't matter that doesn't matter yeah it's weird that doesn't matter so then that confirms that he didn't just randomly step into my yoga clock oh can't help you there yeah put the pieces together Brian any comments on that

look no there's nothing to look at your ratchet oh oh he's a hand candy with a ratchet. No, that's all that means, Jeff. I don't think she still used it, right? I still don't think of it. I was going to pay. I actually had a coupon for Red Lobster that I had with me that I did not pull out. I was like, oh, that's going to look cheap.

Here's the thing. Brian, if you can't afford Red Lobster, fine. Just pick another date. I can afford Red Lobster. I just figured that she has the means. I mean, I already paid for, like, the yoga class. Which I imagine went directly to her, so. unbelievable.

That's a good point. He technically did pay you directly. That is not how instruction works, okay? There's a building, there's a studio you have to pay for, there's an infirm, insurance. Jose Alexis and I are all on the same page here. You're the one who's on the outlier against Brian for some reason. I just, I don't understand it. And caring listener.

When everything's said and done, I think I paid almost $60 for everything because I had, it was like a rental thing I had I had water I had a protein drink I had a mat yeah yeah

yeah yeah yeah you overcharged him yeah yeah I don't think that's helping

now before I offer to send you guys out on another day would you mind paying Brian back first for the overpass yoga class you have the money

come on we're kidding well then let's just offer to send you guys out a date then. Oh, it will pay for it. Yes. No, I'm good.

We didn't even get a chance to let Brian throw down a coupon. Brian, I'm sorry, man. It sounds like we can't get to another date here. But at the very least, would you mind sending us a video of you putting that lobster into downward lobster? I can't stop thinking about it. It sounds really funny. We could put it up on our page.

A little clause. I mean, I'll send you guys a new video, I guess, but... Yeah, he can't afford lobster right now. I'll go back on pay me. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. My name is Ed. Everyone say, hello, Ed. Hello, Ed.

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That's our job, but maybe is it coming off as like a roast? I mean, it's when we all are on the same side. Did he not deserve it? He took her the red lobster and made her pain. Like, come on, Jeff. Yeah. I just think overall, we need to be, we need to go a little gentler, a little softer. I was with you in the beginning.

I'm kind of going against you now. Look, these are our listeners. If you're listening right now, you want a second date. You know we joke around, like, it's expected to be jokes. But you also have to have a critical stance of what you're doing wrong here. And those are clearly things he was doing wrong. Those are all, that's absolutely all true, 100%. Yeah.

But I do think I want to be able to go a little. softer. So stick around to hear Jeff GoSoft, and we're going to put that up on the website. Just make sure you listen to that. If you want to... No one is asking for that. No one. We're going to get record numbers on our site now. If you want to hear any of our second dates, make sure you head over to your favorite podcast hub and find us at Brooke and Jeffrey. Just don't go to jeffcosoft.com. Stop it. Both of you. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different.

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