Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - Second Date Update: Claus For Concern

Episode Date: February 10, 2025

One of our listeners swears he has a VERY good reason that’s totally “not sketch at all” for wanting to make sure his date location was EXTRA PRIVATE… We’re gonna hear him out in a brand new Second Date Update!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hi, this is Ruthie Rogers, host of Ruthie's Table Four. This week, my guest is Zoe Saldana, and what a woman she is. I come from a family, and I do know this, that it's a cultural thing. We dance. If you failed a test, we danced. If you passed it, you know what I mean?

You just dance, and you dance merengue, and you dance salsa. And everybody sits in someone's back, you are ba-da-ba-ba-ba-ba. Listen on the iHeart radio app, Apple, or wherever you find your podcasts. Hey, you found it, the home of the second date update. It is Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. And thanks for being here on the podcast. Yes!

You know, I love all the comments we've been getting from all over the world, and I think this one really sums up what these second dates are. That's a say. Nicolai Huber in Brazil wrote, the call just gets worse and worse. Oh.

It's true, it does. It's like a guilty pleasure listening though, you know? We love when you comment, we love when you subscribe even more, so please do it and hey, just sit back and enjoy the second date update. It's brand new and it starts right now. Second date update. A lot of so-called dating experts will tell you that it's good to bond over things that you both love. Yeah, why did you use dating experts in quotes?

That is true, Jeff. Well, I'm telling like the same TV shows, same sports teams, same mom. I don't know if I really trust that line of thinking One of our listeners says he was drawn to a woman based on what they both hate oh and that Actually sounds healthier to me. I can't bring you together So I don't say this often, but let's spread the hate today and talk to Ethan Learn about his date Ethan welcome to the show Hey guys, thanks for having me I'm really thankful after that slogan of the day Okay, since we're spreading hate, everyone, let's go around the room and say who do you hate?

Uh-uh. Brooke? No. Aww. Before we do that, I like that idea for that exercise. First, let's talk to Ethan about what he hates and how that bonded him to the girl that he met. What's her name, by the way? Ethan, you go first Well her name is aria She got me laughing over her first line which was her biggest pet peeve is

people who microwave fish at work I saw bringing in salmon okay, And where did she say that line? Oh, it's on her dating profile. Ah, OK. So you saw that and you were like, this is my type of woman. Well, it's probably a good opening, right? Like for you to strike up a conversation. Yeah, because there's actually a guy that does that at my work.

So we kind of bonded. I mean, nothing harder than talking about bad smelling food. Yeah, that's right. Hot fish, Alexis. Stick with it. Every office has at least one of those people, Talking about bad-smelling food. Yeah Every office has at least one of those people but that's cool to bond over that It was an opening to see her personality and man. She's funny and we just go on so well after that Some people all bond over how much they hate humor. Yeah, they're like, did you tell a joke? No. Ew. Good.

How dare you laugh? But OK, you guys end up meeting up for a date? Yeah, I wanted to pick a place like a restaurant so I could get to know her. A place that wasn't crowded. And that's important to me. Just us focusing on getting to know each other. What do you? That's good, bro.

I don't know. I get worried about that. Non crowded places mean bad food to me. I think the positive, is quiet and you get a little bit more intimate And you can actually talk the whole staff is probably listening to every I love sitting next to a first date and dropping in okay. Well, it's nice that you got exactly what you wanted How did it go it went well And I'm also not a fan of cameras. Okay. We have a lot of things that you hate So far you hate people that microwave their fish you hate big crowds and you hate cameras. Yeah, what's the cameras deal?

Crowds and you hate cameras. Yeah, what's the camera deal? Explain that well security cams like businesses and restaurants. They have so many they capture your image and they can use it for anything They also usually don't work The people at the radio station use my image on stuff all the time and it's really annoying Talking about the promotional pictures. Yeah, the pictures are everywhere around here. It's on the cars, it's on the flyers. There are billboards too, Jeff.

So give me some space. I'd like some privacy. You're fine pretty big in it. It looks like you like it. I'm with you though, bro. You talk to millions of people daily in one privacy. That's funny. Did you tell her the thing about how you hated security cameras?

No, I like to scout that out ahead of time. Okay. You go and see before you go. He's thorough, Brooke. He does his research and decides if he likes a place before he takes there. I think that's a good thing. I imagine he puts up security cameras

to look at their security cameras. So were you able to bond over more stuff you hate at dinner or what? We talked about traveling and hobbies. Okay. Like I like to work out and run and she likes to play tennis. Oh, sweet. That's awesome.

You're both active people. Yeah, but you don't, you hate walking. Yeah. Running only. You like to run from the authorities after they catch them on the security camps. I'm really a positive person. I don't know why. There's just some things that bug me.

That's all. Okay. Okay. Yeah. And we kind of really leaned into that with you. Yeah, how did the date end? Basically, after the meal, we left and I asked her, I don't live far from here, would you be up for coming over

and having a drink and hanging out? Okay. All right, a little forward dance, nice. I'm guessing you're figuring you're reading the room, right, you know, like she's into it? She said, yeah. Sweet. Good. Sweet. Good.

Nice. He must've had second thoughts though because a few minutes later, as we were walking and just having a good conversation, she said, you know what? On second thought, I gotta get up for work in the morning, so I gotta go. And I was like, are you sure?

And she said, yeah. Oh, well. Really? I don't know. Yeah. I think it's fair. I think it could have been one of those moments where it's like you got the devil and the angel on your shoulder And then the devil's like do it. It'll be fun. It's like no you have a meeting in the morning. Don't What do you think Ethan you think she was being honest with you that she really had to go work the next day?

I'm not so sure and it's been like eight or nine days since then and it feels like Things have shifted so I don't know why and I need your help to figure it out. Right what did you do that 30 seconds to make her change her mind? What were you talking about? I have 13 security cameras in my house by the way. Bring doorbells? Oh no doorbell that's right. He doesn't like the security camera. Oh, that's right. So maybe that's what he said. Hey, by the way, I have no security cameras.

There's no traces of me anywhere. I mean, we didn't talk about security cameras like that at all. Okay. Okay, good. That's good. That's positive. That is a good thing. Yeah.

Well, let's find out what made her change her mind and decide to turn around halfway over to your place. We'll get you your second date update with Aria right after this. Second date update. We're talking to Ethan, who we learned is not a fan of microwaved fish, large crowds or security cameras, three things that really go together. Well, but good news is he is a big fan of Aria. Yeah!

The woman that he went out with the other night. And it went great until the very end of the evening when she changed her mind on the walk over to his place and said, Actually, never mind. I need to get home and sleep because I have to work tomorrow. Yeah, he was fine with that. He just wasn't fine with her not calling. Yeah, because that was eight days ago And I don't know what she does for work that could keep her occupied for eight straight days and nights But it seems like something is up right streamer like me She could do one of those marathon streams or she doesn't get off until she gets a certain amount That seems highly likely

Or she like works on a submarine out in the middle of the Pacific Ocean There's just no service out there Yeah, an astronaut of some sort we didn't ask what she did for a living I know a streamer I know a biologist who has to track like 60 miles into the wilderness to follow some Arctic foxes You think we're close on any of these guesses Ethan ah? That's a good question. I think I think he could be You never found out what she did?

Yeah, I mean you're saying during an entire dinner date you didn't ask? I'm just kidding, I think she's in marketing. Oh, okay. Marketing submarines and marketing rocket ships, so that's totally different, but I don't know. Can I just add real quick, because you sound like a really private guy, I think it's really cool that you're going out on a limb and calling us for help. Oh, good point, Brooke! I mean, I think it means a lot translation if this doesn't work out Brooke is interested

Lady and see if she's willing to give you another shot here we go thank you yeah we got you hold on hello hi we're looking to speak with Aria that's me oh it's nice to talk to a friendly person on this every once in a while. We're a radio show, we're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. I don't know if you've heard of us. Uh-oh. Oh, no, don't worry. We're not doing a bad thing, I don't think.

You're so cute. What's going on here, guys? We're doing this thing on our show called the Second Date Update, and we're trying to help out one of our listeners that you met up with about a week ago a little bit more than that. His name is Ethan. Oh my gosh. Wait, actually. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Are you sure? Are we sure? We're absolutely sure. We talked to Ethan. Yeah. Okay, I'm very very surprised by that Are you yes, maybe he's a hard guy to read you know like how he's feeling yeah, what makes are you surprised? Okay, we just

He seems like a very private person We spoke to me got that impression too. So I guess I can understand why you're a little bit surprised that he would come through a radio show to reach you. I mean, we even actually applauded him for doing it. He's going out on a limb just because he likes you so much. That's very, very sweet. OK. OK.

That's a positive. I feel like he maybe is a sweet guy. He's also a sweet guy. He's also a confused guy right now because it's been eight days since you hung out. And he doesn't really have an explanation for why the two of you haven't met up again. Yeah. And we were even debating in studio whether or not you really had work the next morning or you just made that up as an excuse.

No, I really did. I did. Okay. Oh, okay. It was a an excuse. No, I really did. I did. Okay. Oh, okay. Okay. But it was a convenient excuse. Oh, okay. Yeah.

Both things can be true. We didn't think about that part. Yeah. You're like, wait, she actually has a job? That's the problem. So why did you need to use an excuse? It's just, you're not gonna believe me. Okay.

Really? Wait a minute. It's unbelievable what you're about to say. I mean, I told a couple of my best friends this and they couldn't believe it. Oh. I kind of couldn't believe it when it happened. Okay.

What happened? Now we're interested. Yeah, you gotta tell us. Okay, so we just had dinner, we're walking and I thought, okay, like maybe we're gonna go back to his place Wait you can't laugh through it cuz I can't always understand If we do that you're going to have to sign an NDA.

Wait, what? Oh, wait. No, he was joking. Or like, only celebrities do that. You said NDA, like a non-disclosure agreement? Thanks for explaining it, actually. What I thought he said at first was, because this made more sense to me, was do you like the NBA?

Oh, NBA, like the basketball association. Oh! Yeah. No, I couldn't possibly care less. But I started to be like, oh, like I don't really like sports. And he's like, no, no, no, no, no. And then again, repeated, NBA.

What? And I just have never been that confused in my life. Did he explain why? Yeah, why did he want an NDA kind of so I'm like I feel so stupid for asking this like are you famous? I don't like I feel bad for not knowing but are you or something? He was no, but my dad is Somebody And that didn't make you want to sign the NDA even more just to like figure that out? And why is he going to bring his dad up and tell you stuff about his dad that you'd have to sign an NDA for?

Hey guys, can we just stop this for a second? I don't like the way this is going. Oh, hello there. We were just getting to the good stuff I felt like. Wait, did we sign an NDA before this? No. What is happening right now? Oh, Aria. Hey, Aria. We didn't mention to you before, but that is Ethan who's been waiting on the other line wanting to talk to you. And he heard everything. Seriously. Oh my God. Yeah. I didn't know that bothered you.

And I think I told you, I don't go on dates a lot, like maybe once or twice a year but the ones that I do all the women that come back to my place have no problem signing the NDA. Oh that's not a good start Ethan. Oh yeah. All the other women I bring back love to sign it. Yeah he's being honest and he's clearly a wanted man. Subject A through Z have all won NDAs. I don't like that at all.

I mean, let's reword that a little bit, Ethan. Sure, whoever I hang out with, I have them do that, and I'm surprised you'd bring it up on the radio. Well, first of all, I did not plan on being on the radio. Second, I really like you, and I really wanted to hang out again, but you must understand that nobody does that. I promise you.

Maybe like a super famous person or like a criminal or something. Or a criminal. Well, I don't think the criminals really do that. A lot of times they're the same. It's not a normal thing. Well, I think you're kind of selling it to yourself there. Because all of the best parties and events that I've ever been to made me sign NDAs.

Especially the criminal ones. Well, I would tell you more, but I'm technically not allowed to speak on that, so... Wait, aren't you dying of curiosity of who his dad is? Yes! I feel like I'd sign it just to find out. Honestly, it just seemed fake to me. Oh! You don't believe me? You don't believe that he's really like a famous dad?

You don't believe me that I'm rich and famous? Come on. Well, I mean, then I'm surprised we went to that restaurant, but... Oh, yeah! Okay, okay. Little mansion, bro? Exactly. No, it fits the profile. He doesn't like to be caught on camera. He doesn't like to be seen in big crowds

He wants to go to places that are under the radar So that nobody knows who he is and all the rich and famous people need our help getting another date It's true. Everybody in Hollywood knows Aria. You should really rethink your decision here I would like to offer to send you out on another date with mysterious Ethan to find out Hey before she answers. I need to you know. I think I'm out. She just doesn't value privacy as much as I do Yeah, I think I'm done before I have the chance to say it great Are you kidding me? We're done. Dude, this is gonna kill me. Alexis, will you go out with us? I'll sign anything. Yeah, I'm not.

But then you can't tell anyone. She can tell me. Can I text it? Not say it out loud? No. Yeah. There's always loopholes in these NDAs. Guys, thanks for trying.

I appreciate it, but I've gotta go. Oh, no. I knew that was happening. Oh my god. Oh god, he hung up. What just happened? What just happened is we didn't get any answers. Oh, no! I knew that was happening! Oh my god, oh god, he hung up! What just happened? What just happened is we didn't get any answers!

What just happened is you lost your chance with Ben Stiller's son is what happened. Weird. Dang it. Sean Stiller? Ethan Stiller! Oh, that's right. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. I don't want to get mad at people for saying no.

I mean, that's totally their right. But sometimes you need to pull a brook and drop your morals and just say yes to someone that you don't even like just for the story. Yeah, be nice. You do it for the plot. That's right. I mean, I feel like I was the originator of that slogan.

Yes. Really? Aw. I've been doing that for decades, Alexis. Just for the plot. How many basement boys and homeless folks did you go out with just to come into the radio and tell that story? But they're such good stories

and they were good people, sort of. I feel like Chris gave me for the plot. Right, yeah. He always got a story for that guy. It's fun and I want closure on this so badly. I know. Now we're never gonna know who the NDA guy really is and that is going to haunt all of us for the rest Of our year and probably the rest of our lives

It is kind of a baller move if it's just a lie to say that you have decided You can't get a date though If you can't get a date NDA or not you can always reach out to us. We'll call that person who's not calling you back and if you want to go check out all of our second date updates they're available on podcast wherever you get yours at Brooke and Jeffrey. We all have a moment that splits us wide open on my new podcast wide open with Ashlyn Harris. I'll sit down with trailblazers from sports, music, fashion, entertainment, and politics to explore their toughest moments and the incredible comebacks that followed.

Listen to Wide Open with Ashlyn Harris, an iHeart Women's Sports production on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of I Heart Women Sports. I'm Emi Olaya, host of the podcast, Crumbs. For years, I had to rely on other people to tell me my story. And what I heard wasn't good. You really f***ed last night. It felt like I lived most of my life in a blackout.

I was trapped in addiction. I had to grab the lamp and smash it against the walls. And then I decided I wanted to tell my own story. Listen to Krumz on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Dr. Lari Santos, and to welcome the new year, my podcast, The Happiness Lab, is releasing a series of happiness how-to guides

to help you in 2025. I'll distill the wisdom of world-class experts into easy to digest, actionable tips. Struggling with tough emotions? We have a how-to guide. Worried that you're not enough? We got you. Self-obsessed and want to get over yourself? There's a guide for that too. The Happiness Labs how-to season starts January 1st. Listen on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, this is Ruthie Rogers, host of Ruthie's Table Four. This week, my guest is Zoe Saldana, and what a woman she is.

I come from a family, and I do know this, that it's a cultural thing. We dance. If you failed a test, we danced. If you passed it, you know what I mean? You just dance. You dance merengue and you dance salsa and everybody sits in someone's back yard. Listen on the iHeart radio app, Apple, or wherever you find your podcasts.