Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - Second Date Update: Ditch Me No Ditch You

Episode Date: November 10, 2025

We have a CONTROVERSIAL Second Date Update today where at some point during the date, somebody DEMANDED to speak to the restaurant manager. We’re in crisis mode in the podcast!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Oh, yeah. Right at the beginning in the day, too. Right at the beginning. All right. We're going to get into that with a brand new second date. Welcome to the podcast. We're so glad you're here. Excuse me.

I'd like to complain. if you're going too well. I'm sure that's what it was. I'm sure that's what it was. Where's the drama? Yeah, yeah. All right. We're going to get to that in just a second.

But we love starting with your comments. And we've been doing on Sunday. We've been hosting our full show just once a week. We don't want to give you too much of us because I get it. Got me a day off here. Yeah. Even for myself. So what do you see, Alexis?

Yeah, someone said, hello. This is Eustace from Cameroon. I like listening to you guys while working on my spreadsheets. I'm a finance guy. I used to skip the one plus hour full sessions, but listening to this was rather amazing. Oh, they did it. All right. My mom loves spreadsheets.

I don't understand people like you, but there is a thrill in them. Yeah. And Camero, how beautiful. Yeah. I would just be the best place to be a financing. Right. A financial guy. Yeah, whatever it is.

We don't do Excel here. All right. Let's get into your brand new second date right now. Second date update. Brooke, you'd agree with me that it's important. important in the dating world to know what you want. Yeah, for sure. I think it's important in life in general.

But it's equally important to know what you don't want. Well, sometimes that's how you figure out what you do want, you know? Like Alexis, she does not want labels. Oh, yes. Even if one day down the road, she gets married, don't put a label on that. That's right. No, he's just my guy friend. Yeah.

And we live with you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There is. A lot of friend. Exactly. Yeah.

Bothered a couple children. Exactly. You know. I don't put a label on. that that's gross and one of our listeners knows exactly what she doesn't want and that's a second date with the guy

she went out with then why is she calling us she does want answers though she's mad she deserves that so let's talk to her Jenna welcome to the show hi everyone how did he block you and now you got to use us to tell him off yeah pretty much

I mean I'm just no I'm curious okay all right you're beyond Matt I'm beyond mad, and I hate that I am expending energy on this, but, like, it's not okay what happened, and I just need to know, like, what the heck. Okay, I think we need some explaining, because you sound really serious. I feel like I have all the information that I need out of that little convo, but if you want to give us some details, I'm cool with that. Yeah, like the guy's name maybe to start with. Yeah, what is his name?

His name is Peter. Okay. Oh, Peter. We hate Peter. Yeah. Peter sucks. Yeah, that should have been red flag number one. Oh.

There's some guy in Peter in his car, like, oh. Yeah. We're not all bad. Okay. Well, we'll give grace to most other Peters, but this Peter, we're not a fan. Yeah. Why? Why do we hate Peter?

So we met on a dating app, but I don't usually meet a lot of guys. Like, I'll talk to a lot of people just to, like, get a vibe or whatever. But I don't say yes to a lot of dates because, ew. Because, ew? Because, ew? You can meet some quality people on there, but that's rare. not what this is about exactly it's rare so you thought peter was quality in the beginning i'm assuming since you did say yes right and like he honestly should feel lucky that i said yes okay oh wow

you're a little out of his league or what at this point yeah okay but going in obviously you had a little bit of optimism for how the date would go so like what happened so when i feel like the person who's asking for the date should be the one who plans the date so that seems fair yeah i said that to him. He said he made a reservation. Fine. We decided to meet there because safety first. And we get there and he checks in with the hostess and they're like, oh, yeah, it's going to be 15 minute wait. And I was like, hold the phone. Oh, is that when you stop talking to him? 15 minutes isn't like awful. It's usually like five action. They say that too. That is true. Why are you saying hold the phone? Because if he made a reservation, we shouldn't

have to wait. No, but that's the thing about reservations. I've often had to wait for a res. But you're obviously not on the same level as Jenna is. So, you know, it's not fair to compare yourself in that way. Sorry about that, Jenna. So wait, you're already getting upset because you're waiting

and you think he's lying about making a reservation? Is that what you're... I wasn't sure because he was just like, okay with the wait. So I'm like, that feels iffy. Okay. You want the guy to step up and be like, excuse me. I may the reservation for this time.

I wanted him to handle it because you never know when 15 minutes can turn into 20 or 30 and like, I don't want to spend all night waiting for a table. So I ended up speaking with the hostess and then with the manager. Oh, God. So you're 15 minutes

into a date and you're already talking to the manager? Well, I didn't wait the 15 minutes. Like, I spoke with the hostess. She brought in the manager. I didn't ask for the manager. Okay. And Brooke, she's only doing that because her date is dragging his feet on doing it. He's just cool with whatever.

But it sounds like you're already starting to work yourself up. Like you're already starting to get upset. Like in a bad mood, pre-date maybe. I'm not in a bad mood. And if I was in a bad mood, it wasn't my fault. The restaurant put me in a bad mood by making me wait. My date put me in a bad mood by not fixing the situation. And after my conversation with the manager, magically, I was seated.

And I turned around and they got me a few free drinks. they offered me an appetizer. This is why complaining always pays off. Did this does feel like something you would do, Jeff? Yes. I've come out on top. Elite status. So are you and your date back on?

You're feeling good now. You're feeling cared for and everybody's happy, right? Well, I sat down and, like, I'm having my drink and I turn around and he's just gone. Like, he vanished without saying a word. Wait, what? Yeah, and I tried to call him. He's not responding. He won't answer text messages.

He won't pick a phone. calls. I mean, I did his job. Exactly. You put in all the work and now he's deciding to walk away. That's rude, right, Brooke? I, you know, I just... That's right. Yes. You are right, Jeff. This guy's a jerk. I'm imagining like my husband

going out with you on a first date. He would have been so mortified. Yeah. And embarrassed that he just wouldn't have wanted to even speak to the restaurant staff after that incident. So he probably just left. There's a clear line here. Some people are Team Jenna and some people.

People seem to be Team Peter in this room. I think I'm Team Restaurant employee. Yeah. I mean, here's the thing. Are you really that confused about why he left? Yeah, I want answers. I'm pissed. He wasted my time.

He wasted my energy. My makeup products, hello. And I mean, Brooke, sure. Maybe he didn't want to be on the day anymore. But shouldn't he have at least had the gentleman courtesy to say something to her? Be a man like your husband, I'm sure would have been. And ditched before he ditched you on the date? I'm just sure, but I'm guessing.

Thank you. That's all that we need. We don't need the butts. We don't need the bucks. This guy deserves to answer up for the cowardly move that he did by ditching him by not saying anything. Jenna, we're all on board with you despite the words you might hear. Thank you guys so much for your support. I appreciate it. We appreciate you, Jenna.

And we would love if you left a five-star review on our podcast when you're done with this. It would really go a long way. Okay, perfect. Let's wait until segment two before she actually. No, I wanted to put it now before segment two. Because who knows what's going to happen when we come back? We're going to call Peter, and we'll see what he has to say in your second date update right after this. Second date update.

The room seems very divided about this call with our listener, Jenna, who told us that she's extremely upset since her date Peter told her that he made dinner reservations. But they showed up, and the hostess said, well, actually, you're going to need to wait an extra 15 minutes. Wait, there's no scream after you said that, Jeff? Like, what? Jenna, Jenna didn't scream. She was just like, I don't understand why. I thought we had reservations for that time. I think she may have been a little more forceful than that, but yeah.

Meanwhile, spineless Peter wouldn't say a word. So Jenna had to step up and calmly confront the manager herself. And guess what happened? She got results. Was seated immediately. Oh, I guess a table was available. And was even given. free drinks and food for her trouble.

And where was Peter? Who knows? Quivering Pete had dipped out without saying a single word. Those are Brooke's words, by the way. I hate when you just quote me like that. Yeah, that's true. And Brooke, I am just curious, though, because I was getting the vibe in the first part that you took issue with Jenna's approach to how she handled the situation.

And I'm just wondering, would it be different if they had a reservation and it was an extra 45 minutes, an hour, would her actions be warranted if the time length was different? I mean, those are all like what ifs. Like, that's not what happened. Because you know what I'm saying? Like, you know that I'm right. No, it's not. That's like hypotheticals and hypotheticals will always get you in trouble.

Okay, Jenna, I'm trying to get them onto your side. I'm doing everything in my power. They still want to be Team Peter for some reason. Brooke, I get the vibe that you don't support me and I've heard on your show that you support women. And honestly, I don't feel supported right now. Yeah, where are you today? What happened?

I just don't know that you should be so mystified that Peter's not interested. I don't think that's it, though. I don't think she's mystified about why he's not interested. She's just not understanding why he took the approach where he did without saying a word. He was rude. Yeah, I just want to know, like, what he was thinking to make such a cowardly decision to just leave without saying anything. We don't know what we're going to get if Peter answers the phone. All right, let's call him.

Let's see. Maybe he will own up to all the mistakes that he made that day, but let's find out. I bet you'll, I bet Jenna will be very kind and forgiving of it. We're not dealing with hypotheticals, as you so eloquently said earlier. So let's just take some real action and dial the number. Give you a hypo. That's another. That's enough.

I don't know from the peanut gallery. Let's get some answers. Here we go. Hello? Wow. Answered on the first ring. Yikes. What are you talking about yikes? Is this Peter? That is such a bad way to start a conversation. Peter, hello? Is this you?

Yeah, who is this? Well, you should know us because we're a very popular radio show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. You may have heard of us or... Jenna's really rubbed off on you. Yeah. It brought out the carrot. It feels good, actually. what is happening right now well what's happening is a segment called the second date update where we're trying to help out one of our listeners one of our very good friends it's true her name is jenna and you went on a date with her recently you almost went on a date with her i should say

well you waited five minutes with her in a restaurant lobby does this ringing a bell yeah yeah um that happened okay okay all right i'd love just your first impression of Jenna? I mean, she's pretty, she seemed cool on the app, and then I even went on to my way to call a buddy and get a reservation at a new restaurant. Oh, dude, you pulled some string. Most people don't even know how to do that. We heard that there were supposedly reservations that were made, but when you arrived

to the restaurant, things didn't go that smoothly. Yeah, look, I mean, it was swamped, okay? I mean, it's a new place. It makes sense for a new restaurant. There's, like, systems that they don't have in place yet. Sometimes they get behind. Sounds like they don't have their stuff together. No.

That's just a trend. It's totally normal for a new restaurant to not have all the peers working. Sorry to interrupt you there, Peter. Keep going. I don't know, guys. It was just pretty awkward because, I mean, we get there. And she finds out there's a 15-minute wait. I mean, my goodness, pretty much kind of has a temper tantrum.

She even said, like, do you? you know who I am? What? She said that? No. Yeah. Like she starts whipping out her phone, showing her 20,000 followers

she has and everything. Oh, she's an influencer. Or she just has like 20,000. 20,000 is not really an influence. No, that's pretty good, though. Yeah. That's just like. Brooke sounds a little bit jealous of her even.

Oh, Brooke, how many do you have followed you? I am not interested in how many followers people have. And I think that's such a weird flex. Right. So then it was just so awkward. and I just dipped. I was like, get over yourself. Okay.

So is there a reason why you didn't tell her? Like, hey, man, that was too much for me. I'm leaving. I just couldn't be with a girl like that. You know, I'm like, get over yourself. I mean, I left and I had to, as I was going home, I had to, like, text my buddy, like, hey, I'm so sorry. I had to apologize.

No, Peter, sorry. Like, just so you know, like, I've seen mannequins with more initiative than you. Oh. Wait, what? Yeah. So, Peter. You couldn't figure it out. That's Jenna on the other line.

She's been listening to this call. Normally, we have them wait, but... She's not a patient girl, remember? Yeah, and I don't blame her either. That was kind of a long explanation on your end, to be fair. It was exactly what we thought had happened. Yeah, you could have summarized it a little bit quicker. But, busing out the phone...

But go ahead, Jenna. I honestly don't appreciate being mischaracterized. I am not... I never said, do you know who I am? Like, who says that anymore? I heard you say it. Oh, no. So what?

Maybe I did. Maybe I did it. But at least we got a table. You had one chance to act like a man and you went full-on NPC. What does that stand for? Non-playable character. Yeah, Brooke. Come on now. You're not a gamer.

Come on. It sounds like he didn't want to play. Yeah. I didn't. I didn't want to be a part of it. Right. But there's a level of decorum that usually comes into dates where you tell someone, hey, I don't know if this is going to work out or I got to go.

Just dipping out. What is he supposed to do? he's supposed to say something, and then Jenna is going to go nuclear on him and make a scene in the restaurant next and embarrass his buddy even more? Well, he apologized to his buddy, he apologized to the manager, and everybody except for Jenna. But why does she deserve apology, I guess is my question. Brooke, you're supposed to support women's rights and wrongs.

And wrongs. You know, women can still be a-holes, Jenna. I'm sorry. You're right, and you're being one right now, Brooke. Yeah, Brooke. Oh, Brooke. I don't understand why you're attacking. Jenna, she came to us for help you.

I'm not attacking anyone. It's just, I... You're calling her an A-Hol. Well, she's kind of being one, but yeah. Now you double down on it. Here's the thing. Like, Jenna, how could anyone calmly talk to you in that moment? We're talking about the wrong thing here.

Like, we need to talk about who gets done, and I do. Okay. I got us the table, and he did nothing. I mean, this is just outrageous. I mean, Jenna, you're a beautiful girl, but get old. over yourself. I'm just going to take that as an apology that you won't get over me.

Oh, wow. Okay. I like how you just take what you want. You know? I don't know how you got there. Jenna, what you're saying doesn't even make any sense. I mean, I just want an apology. I mean, I think that's a fair ass.

Just one tiny apology for all the trouble that Jenna had to go through to get her table. And then in return, will Jenna then apologize to the restaurant manager? The restaurant gave her free food? and drinks for their own mistake. They admitted they were wrong. They were 15 minutes late for her reservation. She didn't even wait 15 minutes, you guys. You know what?

At this point, I don't even just want an apology from Peter. I want an apology from Brooke, too. Oh, okay. All right, Brooke, why don't you be a good role model and show Peter how a good apology is done? I don't think it's healthy to apologize for something that you didn't do wrong. Oh, right? I'm not going to take blame for Jenna's behavior. I'm sorry.

Well, maybe you should apologize for the outfit that you chose to wear. today because this is a pain to ever. It isn't like a snuggy. It's like a blanket. Jeff, for that? I am sorry. Okay. I'm sorry for that.

Jenna, I'm going to pass that apology over to you. Peter, now's your chance to apologize for ditching out on Jenna without a word. Ready, three, two, one, and? You know, when they say you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all. That's why I left. And I just got to back Brooke on this. I mean, I can't condone bad behavior like that. I'm sorry.

Yeah. All right. That was a long-winded way of almost saying absolutely nothing. Yeah, you could have just said I'm sorry. Jenna did not get what she won't. Anyway, Jenna, I'm so, so sorry that you had to go through all of this.

Do we offer her a date? Thank you. She didn't want one to start. Yeah, that's right. I mean, I'm a man of action like Jenna is, so I will take action and offer to put you two together one more time for another redo.

No, thanks. Okay, at least I tried. Yeah. At least I'm the only one in the room who did it. So, yeah. Did you hear that, Peter? I said no. you did.

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I know. Yeah. I know. And I have to be the one who steps up and apologizes for everybody on behalf of the entire show. Don't apologize for anyone. She didn't understand you're being sarcastic. No. She did not actually support her.

I think our listeners deserve a little bit of support, even if they're not right. Okay, well, you never tell them that they're not right. Well, that's just going to make them mad at me. You've got to play devil's advocate. Yeah. Someone needs to stand up for them, but I did take something away from it. 20,000 followers can get you free drinks and an appetizer. What?

We have way more than that, and we never get anything. I thought for sure it would be higher, like 40. But if it's only 20, I'm going to start pulling out my phone at a claim jumper. And I'm going to be like, excuse me, do you know who Brooke Fox is? I work with her. And if you don't want to be on her bad side, you will give me some free jalapeno poppers on the house. You show him my Instagram and you get charged more. I'm just telling me.

I'm not going to show him that. If you do want to check out our social, specifically our show on at Broke and Jeffrey, you can go send us a DM and we might reach out to that person who's not calling you Yeah. And go check on our podcast, too. They're available online. You can see all of our second dates wherever you get yours at Brooke and Jeffrey. And she said, Johnny. The kids didn't come home last night.

Along the central Texas plains, teens are dying. Suicides that don't make sense. Strange accidents and brutal murders. In what seems to be, a plot ripped straight out of Breaking Bad. Drugs, alcohol, trafficking of people. There are people out there. that absolutely know what happened. Listen to Paper Ghosts,

the Texas Teen Murders, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Robert Smith, and this is Jacob Goldstein, and we used to host a show called Planet Money. And now we're back making this new podcast called Business History, about the best ideas and people and businesses in history.

And some of the worst people, horrible ideas, and destructive companies in the history of business. First episode, how Southwest Airlines use cheap seats and free whiskey to fight its way into the airline is. The most Texas story ever. Listen to business history on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What do you get when you mix 1950s Hollywood, a Cuban musician with a dream, and one of the most iconic sitcoms of all time? You get Desi Arness.

On the podcast star in Desi Arnaz and Wilmer Valderrama, I'll take you on a journey to Desi's life, how he redefined American television, and what that meant for all of us watching from the sidelines, waiting for a face like hours on screen. Listen to starring Desi Arnaz and Wilmer Valderrama on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hey, I'm Cal Penn, and on my new podcast, here we go again, we'll take today's trends and headlines and ask, why does history keep repeating itself? Each week, I'm calling up my friends, like Bill Nye, Lily Singh, and Pete Buttigieg to talk

about everything from the space race to movie remakes to psychedelics. Put another way, are you high? Look, the world can seem pretty scary right now. But my goal here is for you to listen and feel a little better about the future. Listen and subscribe to Here We Go

Again with Cal Penn on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Big Take podcast from Bloomberg News keeps you on top of the biggest stories of the day. My fellow Americans, this is Liberation Day. Stories that move markets.

Chair Powell opened the door to this first interest rate cut. Impact politics, change businesses. This is a really stunning development for the AI world and how you think about your bottom line. Listen to the big take from Bloomberg News every weekday afternoon on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.