Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - Second Date Update: Does This Smell Like Your Mom?

Episode Date: December 10, 2025

One of our listeners says there's a sneaky spot where you can meet cute guys, and it ONLY happens during the holidays. You’ll find out where that is coming up in your Second Date Update podcast!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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going to say kudos to this woman on the phone just for the sole reason of putting in the work to meet a guy she really is she's doing the most that's for sure she got a second job in order to meet single men yeah i mean you say motivate yourself yeah she's motivated She's motivated. All right, you're going to hear it in just a second, but comments, what do you got? Yeah, this one said, do you record your intros too early in the morning for Jeff? Or is he locked in the back office and you only let him out for the show. Oh, we definitely only let him out for the show.

Yeah, he is locked away. He is working while locked away. He's always working. I mean, it's really nice. We don't have HR around here anymore. Yeah, totally. They used to be like, let him out to eat. Let him out to breathe.

Yeah. Okay. All right. Here's your brand new second date update. It starts right now. I'll go let Jeff out for this one. We got to. Fine for a little while.

Second date update. Big day on the show, because Denise is back. Oh, I've been waiting for Denise. We all have. You may remember her from a second date update around six months ago or so, where her strategy was to find available men at the golf course. Oh, yes. That was smart, too.

She decided to take up the hobby, and she would go there, and say, oh, no, I don't know how to do this. How do I swing this long metal stick? And then weld to-do gentlemen would come over and help her. She ended up meeting one guy named Franklin, who owned a couple car washes. That whole thing didn't work out in the end. But Denise is not giving up. That's right, Denise.

She is back requesting our help once again, but not hitting the golf clubs, apparently. We got a new man hobby? According to your email, Denise, you've got a new strategy to meet guys? Yes. Okay. We're trying to hear it. Do tell. Yeah.

Okay. I was thinking about other places that eligible single guys would be. Okay. And I realized that around the holidays, there's a lot of them around the perfume counter shopping for their moms and their sisters and their aunts. Their girlfriend. Yeah. Jose said.

Just keep the list going there. Oh, interesting. Guys buy perfume for their moms? I've never bought for my mom. But I have bought my mom chocolate strawberries, so there's a line there. She should get some perfume next time, too, I was saying. Really sure. Yeah.

Not too far-fetched, right? No, we actually are a little confused, Denise, because most men buying fragrance, they're going to have a significant other. Most, most. Exactly. Or maybe he's helping his friend. Oh, we didn't think of that, Brooke. You can't see the look on Brooke's face right now, but she is shaking her head very skeptical

about this entire thing. It's a reach. But it sounds like it worked for you because you're on with us and you must have met somebody this way, right? Yes. So I did get a part-time job at a department store. Oh, you committed. I do have a full-time job, but I'm just doing this at night to meet guys.

Oh, wow. I say if I'm going to a bar and spending money to meet guys, I can have a job to get money and still meet the guy. All right. That sounds smart. So who'd you meet? Okay, so I did meet a guy. His name is Caleb.

You know, while I was working there, I noticed that not Caleb, but like a lot of guys were married and they would slip their ring off. Oh, no. What? Sketchy. Yeah, I mean, it's something about a really good conversation that get these men going. I don't think it's a conversation. Yeah. The good thing about being employees, you can ask who they're buying it for.

Like straight up. That's true. Like, well, okay, so towards the end of the night, that's when he came in. And I was kind of hoping that he wasn't the one, but. You know, I was hoping that maybe... Wait, wait, did you say you were hoping that he wasn't the one, single one? What the heck? What do you mean?

I mean, not somebody, like, oh, my gosh, love at first sight. I'm head over heels, the one, but a really nice guy. I like options. I like options. He surprised you when he came over to the counter, it sounds like. Or he was the only option that was single. Yeah. Well, what really caught my eye was that he was very shy compared to all of the guys that I've seen

all day. And he was actually getting perfume for his mom. We found him. Yeah. They exist. Okay. But he didn't know what to get her. So that's where I came into place, luckily.

And I took this opportunity to flirt with him, and I sprayed him on my hand and on my neck. Oh, you do the neck move? You had him smell your neck? That's actually legit. Does this smell like your mom? Wow. You pulled out all the men. moves, okay.

All of it. All of it. He went to one of the perfumes, and I rung him up, and, you know, he just kind of stood there while hanging around the counter because, you know, he's so shy. And I was just initiating conversation, so I, I was very, very direct. And I said, if you want to ask me out, it's okay, you can. Aw. That is awesome.

I wish every girl would do that. We need a big green flag. Like, come on, buddy. No, because if they say no, then I'm going to go. Oh, my God. I can't leave my house against me. Rejection is not that big of a deal, trust me. It's not.

It happens to me every day. And what did Caleb say? Well, he said, okay, will you go out with me? Cute. I said yes. And I wrote my number on his receipt. Wow. And then after he left, he had texted me a couple of times.

Okay. But there hasn't been an official date. Yeah. Oh. He said he was really timid. Did you bully him into a date? Like, I wouldn't say bully. I would say strongly convinced.

Yeah. I mean, he could have said no, too. I'm totally kidding. You weren't shy and you love that line that she just gave. Yeah, I loved it. So maybe it's universal. Yeah. Do you think he just doesn't know what to do on a day?

Like, I'm being serious. Like, doesn't know where to go or like what to plan? I think because he is so shy, maybe all of this might be a little overwhelming for him. Maybe he doesn't actually, like, act women out on the regular. Or do you think maybe he's taken already and was also being a little bit? little bit sneaky with you. I'm seeing cheaters. I know how they move.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's not like that. Yeah. He's a mama's boy. Yeah. It might be possible he put the perfume on his mom and then he was like, oh, wow. What, Jeff? Don't continue.

You know what? Like, we already did a lot of jokes. That would do it too. I'm just saying it's a possibility for a shy boy. He's dating his mom now. Is that a possibility? Shy boys want to hook up with her mom? Let's put everything on the table and then we'll find.

We'll find out the truth when we come back and we're going to call Caleb and find out who he really wants to go out with in your second date update. Let's set some rules for Jeff. It's happening right after this. Second date update. If you're a shy boy who's buying perfume for his mom this holiday season, be careful. Why? Because it might be a trap. Maybe you want a trap, Jeff.

You maybe do. and I say that because our listener, Denise, is a purposeful dater. She tries to put herself in situations so she can meet available men who aren't on the apps. Yeah. Like in a previous episode, she was trying to meet guys at the golf course. But now, since it's around the holidays, she's been trying to meet single men at the perfume counter by working there part-time. Yeah. Yeah.

That is commitment. Perfume's not cheap, so it kind of checks for boxes. Right. Available, probably well-to-do. Successful. It's thoughtful, buys gifts. It might be a little bit counterintuitive, but there are lots of clueless guys out there

who need help, shopping for presents, hopefully for their mother or for their sister. Or maybe there's a guy out there that's buying perfume or cologne for himself. Or for the homeless. Yeah. I mean, the homeless. Wow.

You know, you bought some, come on, bro. I think they need other things first. Yeah. Don't go around spritzing the homeless. That's just not a good move. But it is how she met Caleb, and she even kind of pushed him into asking her out. The problem is he hasn't followed through with the actual date yet.

So that's where we're going to try and step in and help. Is that right, Denise? Yes. Okay. Denise. Are you worried that we're going to scare him even further? Like, he's a shy guy. I mean, it has been some weeks, so I definitely need the help.

Okay. I can't do it. I'm going to come off to pushing. I'll scare him away. Yeah. I mean, if it's been weeks, What does she have left to lose at this point? Yeah.

What is going to ghost her even more? She keeps doing the same thing. Nothing's going to happen. That's true. That's true. All right. Well, we'll try to talk softly and not frighten him. No one's talking softly in this room.

Don't you think? The second I laugh, he's going to be like, oh, what was that? Okay. Well, we'll be delicate with your shy future boyfriend, and we will try and get him to say yes to actually going out on this date with you. So here we go. No. He'll just need him to say that. Here we go.

Hello? Hey, is this Caleb? Yeah, this is Caleb. Hey, man. This is a radio show. Oh. It's very strong, Jeff. Good morning.

Yeah. Hi. Hey, good morning. Morning. He's friendly, man. We're a show we're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. I don't know if you've heard of us before. I believe I heard of it.

Okay. Okay. Well, maybe you've heard of this segment that we do. That's called the Second Date Update, where we try to reconnect listeners after they've met up once and they're having trouble seeing each other again?

Yeah, I think so. Okay. Okay. All right. So that's what we're trying to do here with you because one of our listeners, Denise, has been trying to get a hold of you. Denise?

Yeah, remember Denise? Smells good, Denise. You met her by perfume. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's why she said that. Well, this must be a joke because I've been texting her. Yeah, we heard that.

But Denise feels like you haven't made enough of a push to actually go out on the date. Like, it almost feels like you're texting her out of obligation, not because you actually want to see her. Is she reading that right? No. No? I like her.

You do? Okay. That's great news. Yeah, I just, I just can't go out with her. Oh, no. Is there a reason? No, it's, I want to. It's just not the right time.

Not yet. Not yet. What do you have to wait for, brother? Yeah, what does it mean? Yeah, I got some. I have some things I'm working on, working on myself. And that's what I'm doing. I mean, with all due respect, people are dating.

They have busy lives. And sometimes they just can't wait forever. So we're just trying to figure out. Like how long this self-time is going to take. Exactly. We're talking another week or are we talking two years? Well, I'm not exactly sure. I ordered some special supplements.

And I'm trying them out, see what? they're effective. So you mean like health supplements. Some people do like skin like my buddy takes one fish oil or whatever for skin and stuff. What kind of supplements are we talking about if you don't mind me asking? I probably shouldn't say more than I did

but uh... Oh, we didn't need to get into a private matter. You're doing steroids, bro? No. I was thinking maybe hair loss. Is that what's going on? Oh. Well, it does have to do with growing. Oh. What? Like wait. I'm sorry, my mind went somewhere.

You mean like Fingernails, right? Yeah, I could be it. Yeah, I don't, I shouldn't say anymore. Oh my God. Okay. Yeah, we really shouldn't ask anymore. I don't want to speculate anymore.

Stop asking, my bad. You're testing out multiple supplements, it sounds like, and seeing what works. That's why you're waiting. Are you asking, Jeff, because you're wondering what the results are for yourself? My motives are none of your business, but. Yeah, just like also, what are you taking? How long? until you see results.

Yeah, you're just, you're testing. You really want to be ready for Denise if it goes well. Okay. Okay. I mean, I think supplements are no supplements. You could do that. You could be there. Yeah.

I'm just trying to hype him up. I feel bad for him, okay? I don't think it works. I'm trying to be one of the guys. I'm trying to, like, make it feel better. I don't want to feel bad about whatever it is. I know what Brooks trying to say. She's trying to say, Caleb, truly, a lot of people think that they have it in their mind.

Oh, I'll start dating once I. lose five pounds or once my hair transplants come in, you're waiting for the perfect moment, but there really is never a truly perfect time. You just got to say, you know what? I like this person, I'm going to go for it. Yeah, I guess that makes sense. Okay. I mean, they always

say love comes when you least expect it, right? Not when you plan the most for it. I just think Denise is really going to like it. I don't notice it. But confidence is good. There it is. And I don't know if this is a if there's a good thing or a bad thing, but I have a feeling you would never go out with

Denise, unless I told you that she's actually on the phone right now, listening to this whole thing. Hi, Caleb. Oh, he's so embarrassed. No, it's okay. I'm flattered that, you know, you really want to be ready for the date. Yeah. That's cute.

Thank you. Yeah, of course. I mean, you don't need to worry about that, though. I do. No, no, no. No, no, no. I just mean, I thought you were cool the way you were when we met, and that's what attracted me to you.

Like, beyond the physical. Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah, I'm, okay. Yeah, I'm cool. Super cool, dude. You know, Taylor, you don't need to take supplements or whatever it is just because of you guys. Yeah. I just, I think he's like it.

I don't know what I'm going to respond. to that. Um, I hope I'd like it. I, oh my goodness. Um, I have a new one coming in this week and it's really promising. What do you mean a new one? How many of you tried? Yeah, like, it's called beard burst. I'm trying to get facial hair. What's what? Oh, wait, what? It's a facial hair growing thing he said. What did you just say? Beard burst. It's her facial hair because Your beards are really hot right now. Brooke just fell out of her chair. That's amazing.

It's about facial hair. Yeah. I want to crawl my beard. Caleb, you have a cute face without facial hair. I mean... Oh, my God. Oh, my God. We've been so delicate with him.

What did you think it was? What? I don't think I'm allowed to tell you. Yeah. I think all the listeners are thinking the same. Yeah, right. Go listen to this back after what I. Yes.

You'll hear a difference. Oh, God, did you think I was trying to order B. B. B.R. drugs? Oh, my God. We go. But yes. Yeah. Yeah, that was exactly.

I don't have facial hair, and I wanted to get bigger, and I just can't grow it. Okay. Nobody cares about that. Listen, I am pro wanting to feel better about yourself, so you know what? If you're on this bear journey,

I will go on this journey with you. Wow. Wait. A beard journey together. That doesn't mean you're going to grow your own, right? I know. I sounded kind of desperate, Denise. How about this?

As long as I can be your personal facial massager, I think we can make this work. Wow. This massages sound beautiful. I like that. The best offer we've ever had. Denise is tired of working at the perfume stuff. It's a much better offer than the one that I'm about to give, where we're going to pay for your next date. If you'll agree to see Denise one more time, Caleb.

Oh, yeah, absolutely. I really want to see her. I just hope you don't need a Hemsworth at the perfume counter and kick my ass to the car. No, I'm sure Hemsworth would have nothing on you, sweetheart. Oh, wow. She's great, bro.

You've got to keep her. Have you looked at a photo of him recently? Yeah, I was going to say she's great at lying. Yeah. I did meet him at the perfume counter guy. Okay. That's true. You did make commission off him.

That's right. We started on a mission to get Denise a date from her perfume counter and she found her perfect Hemsworth look. like, well, soon, soon they'll be looking like Hemsworth. Sounds like the opposite of Hemsworth. Caleb. You're the man, Caleb.

Yeah. Thanks. And tonight I'm going to delete my Tinder profile. Oh, that's big deal. All the ladies mourn. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. I'm Stefan Curry, and this is Gentleman's Cut. I think what makes Gentleman's Cut different is

me being a part of, you know, developing the profile of this beautiful finished product. With every sip, you get a little something different. Visit gentlemen's cut bourbon.com or your nearest total wines or Bevmo. This message is intended for audiences 21 and older. Gentleman's Cut Bourbon, Boone County, Kentucky. For more on Gentleman's Cut Bourbon, please visit gentleman's cut bourbon.com. Please enjoy responsibly.

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Yeah. But then that leaves it open to interpretation. Exactly. Which was obviously wrong. Yeah. I wish he would have just came out and told us beard blaster pills right at the start of the conversation. Because we could avoid a lot of awkwardness. Yeah, I thought it was like skin moisturizer at first.

It's almost the same like fish oil. Oh, no, it's beer grower. Yeah. The problem was he was talking. He was talking about how Denise was really going to like it. And he mentioned growth a few times. It just led us into a weird space. Yeah, but good thing we called him.

How long would it have taken until his beard grew up to call him? They would have been half a year. It's still not big enough yet. It has to reach my knees. There's another whisker. Yeah. One day closer. You know what?

We did it. We got them to go out on a date. So hopefully they reach out to us again and give us an update on their situation. Yeah. Reminds of where our minds always go to. Yes. Absolutely. Send us photos of the beard when it comes in, Caleb.

But that was a... I'm still worried. Yeah, I don't think I want my pictures either. Okay, just send them right to me. But that was a special holiday second date update. If you want to hear more, you can go to Spotify, IHeart, Apple. Wherever you get your podcast, find it, pop a few supplements, and binge. I know he has a reputation, but it's going to catch up to him.

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