Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - Second Date Update: Dutch Isn't Just A Language

Episode Date: September 26, 2025

The guy on the phone today says he bonded with his date over their shared HATE for one specific thing… But now she’s not calling back? Maybe we can get her to explain coming up in your Second Date Update!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Five, six white people pushed me in the car. Basically, your stay-at-home moms were picking up these large amounts of heroin. All you got to do is receive the package. Don't have to open it, just accept it. She was very upset, crying. Once I saw the gun, I tried to take his hand, and I saw the flash of light. Listen to the Chinatown Stang on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or anywhere you get your podcasts. It's important that we just reassure people that they're not alone, and there is help out there. The Good Stuff podcast, Season 2, takes a deep look into One Tribe Foundation, a non-profit fighting suicide in the veteran community.

September is National Suicide Prevention Month, so join host Jacob and Ashley Schick as they bring you to the front lines of One Tribe's mission. One Tribe saved my life twice. Welcome to Season 2 of the Good Stuff. Listen to the Good Stuff podcast on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Hey, it's a brand new second date for your Friday. Thanks for being here. Yeah. And by the way, I know we have been getting a lot of messages about how people love Saturdays because it's like double feature and they like the longer version.

We do do a full hour show every day. Yeah. Where we make really good jokes like that, right? And you can find it on the main feed. So pop over some time. Check out the full hour. Right now, though, it is just a second date. And we've got, we've got a surprise one for you.

Yeah. Mostly because there's a woman on the phone that, I don't know, maybe has the same financial leanings as Alexis. Hey, that's a good way to sum it up, maybe. Is that a way to say it? Okay. Yeah, but before we get to it, what do you see in the comments, Alexis? Yeah, buddy commented and said,

Hey, Brooke and Jeffrey crew, I'm a therapist listening all the way from New Zealand. Oh, nice. I love the show on the podcast. It helps brighten my mornings down here. But if you're ever up for it, I'd be happy to offer the whole team. a free group therapy session. Wink, wink. Yes.

Lost me at the wink, wink. I don't know, girl, because she knows that it's like, I'm going to hook up with one because they obviously need at least four years worth of sessions. We love that. We love that. I'm sure you're diagnosing us as we speak.

Oh, and every listener on the second date podcast. And we like that too. So, you know, free therapy. We'll take it. Hey, it's working Jeffrey in the morning and your brand new second date starts right now. Second Date Update. I am worried this call might get messy.

I usually you're excited about that, Jeff. I know, but I'm a little scared because Alexis, have you ever at any point dated or had a crush on a guy named Jake? That's my brother's name, so absolutely not. That is disgusting to think about. Or someone thinks you like him? Her face looked like she smelled the worst part in the world just said. I can tell.

He broke your heart, didn't he? You're not even going to acknowledge that he exists. You have to try to keep your jealousy. bottled up because a guy named Jake is on the phone with us right now. You know Alexis's brother? This would be awesome. I love how despite your answer you're still sticking with. And how Jeff didn't know that

was my brother's name before this. We all know her brother's names, Jeff. That only makes it more tempting to her. The forbidden fruit. Jake, say hi to Alexis. Hey, what's up, Alexis? Not my brother. Do you. We're good. This is awkward.

If it was your brother, he'd insult you somehow. Jake, it was very brave. of you to come on the show today. Thanks for being on. Tell us about the woman who's not named Alexis that you want us to call today. Please stop.

It's going to make me sick. It's like literally so weird. Yeah, I want to call Kim. I met her through mutual friends at a birthday rooftop party. Oh, was it like a setup between the mutual friends or is it just you guys both happen

to make the same party? We have mutual friends. She just happened to be there. And we really bonded over the fact that the music was absolutely horrible. Oh, no. Oh. At the party?

Who goes to a party with bad music? No, it's when you have one DJ friend, he's like, I'm gonna take over. Totally. Was there a DJ or someone on the floor? Your jealousy is coming out with that comment. So please try and keep it under control. I see. They're playing like deep cuts.

Like, you haven't heard this? Yeah. So I take it you didn't dance together that night. No, I mean, it wasn't my kind of music, wasn't her kind of music, but we really had a good time talking about how terrible it was. You know, they say people just need a common enemy sometimes. to bring them together. Yeah, it's true.

So tell us how did you and Kim come to be? Well said, Joe. Yeah. Like, was there a date? I mean? Yeah, we were talking and we were having a really good time and I just asked her for a number. And we went to this cozy wine bar, like, new swanky thing. And the nice thing about those places is they're like quiet enough to also be able to talk?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We bought talking and again, the music was really bad. The music was really bad. Oh. How bad can it be in a wine bar? I wonder if you guys have bad taste in music at this point. Or is that just all you guys have to talk about? No, no, no, no.

We talked about our most embarrassing moment. And she said that she went on the game show. And as soon as the camera turned on, she completely froze up. I was unable to do the show. Oh, no. That's rough. Did it make you want to Google or YouTube? exactly what game show.

I never hit the air, bro. Yeah, I don't think I made it to air. Yeah. Okay. Okay. And did you share yours? Yeah, I told her about one time I went to a party and it had really bad music. And I met a really cool girl. Hey, that is a nice move.

Oh, the girls don't get it. The most embarrassing moment. That's rude, though. I mean, like, she's not funny. I was embarrassed for this guy. You're embarrassed for the DJ playing the bad music. That's who you're embarrassed for? Yeah.

Okay. I'm going to tell you, I'd be disappointed in that answer. Yeah. I know you're trying to be funny, but it's like she just shared something vulnerable and actually embarrassing. You just did a cop out. I mean, it was a joke. I, you know, I was saying, you know.

I mean, I get it. Were you able to recover after that moment? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it felt like everything was all right. Okay. Well, how did it end? We got the bill.

And then she insisted on going Dutch. That's good, though. Don't you like that? Yeah. I mean, I have no problem with it. How did she insist? did you offer to pay and then she was like no I insist or how did that go down yeah yeah and she like immediately asked for my Venmo like I don't know maybe she's had like bad dates in the past

where a guy expected something uh I think that's like majority of dates honestly yeah it's not just no expected something in return like whether it's a kiss or another date or like if you pay him you don't feel pressure to have to like do anything yeah yeah I understand what you but I would say like the majority of men come off that way? Yeah, I mean, obviously I would like something to happen, but you know, yeah, but that's not your intention. You're like, cool, you can pay, I can pay.

It wasn't my intention, correct, correct. Okay, so what's happened since then? Yeah, so we had a hug and a kiss on the cheek and we went our separate ways and I texted her like a day or two after that just said, hey, what's up? And she answers, but like, I can tell that, like, she's kind of just answering because she feels obligated.

I don't know. It doesn't feel like... Vibes off. She's really... Yeah, like she's really with it. Yeah, and she's not trying to plan anything else. Yeah, like I've hinted at, oh, like, there's a game coming on next week. Like a sporting event?

Yeah, yeah, like, come over to my house and, like, check out the game or whatever, you know... Take her to it, but... There's not going to be enough bad music at those games in order to attend with. You need to find a terrible venue. Because I'd be there at my house. house. I think they should only go to open mics, actually. That will be a strict to that will give you something to bond about all over again and hate on. So let's try and set that up for you when we come back. We're going to call Kim

and try and get you a second date update with the worst music ever. Oh, my God. Pick a song, guys. Text in a request. Second date update. When you think of subpar music, maybe you picture a certain 12-year-old Jewish boy singing his original song, Reach for the Sky. I just want you to be quiet so I can hear you when you're little. I'll tell you, I'm encouraging people to touch a moon, a moon beam. Whatever the hell that means.

I like it. I can only imagine this song was playing during Jake's first date with Kim where they bonded over their mutual hatred of the awful playlist coming over the restaurant speakers. Dude, I'm pretty sure I've been to at least two birthday parties where I heard that banger. Yeah. Yeah. You got to put it on Spotify. It's spreading, yikes.

There were highs and lows, for sure, but at the very end of the night, they both agreed to split the bill. Jake ended up getting a kiss, but the problem is now Kim is acting a little distant. Even though she is answering texts, it just doesn't feel like her heart is in it. I think it was like cheek kiss. I mean, it's just important to specify. No, you're right. Isn't that right? Am I right on that, Jake?

Point wear on your body, she kissed you. I mean, yeah, it was on the cheek. I mean, you know, it was what I would expect. Yeah, you know what? I think a kiss on the cheek is cute because it's just like, oh, I just don't want to kiss you yet, but like you're doing good. You know what I mean? It's like a nice message. Like you don't gross me out. Yeah, yeah, you're doing a good job tonight. Maybe one day, you know.

Or you boost me out. I don't want to touch your mouth. So I'll go right here. Gross. Or like just kiss all the cheek kisses's mouth smells. Well, hopefully there are more kisses to come if we can do our jobs right on this. And not just cheat kisses. We'll find out. I mean, if it starts to go south, we just put your song on and she's back in the game.

Oh, man. Let's hope the kisses don't go too far, but let's just call her. We'll see if she picks up and we're going to try to do this here. Are you ready, ma'am? Yeah, ma'am. Cool. Awesome. Here we go.

Hello. Hey, is this Kim? Yeah. Hey. Hi, Kim. Hello, Kim. Good morning. You don't have to be afraid of us.

We're just a harmless morning radio show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. I'm Jeff. You may know me from the hit song Reach for the Sky. Reach for the sky. Yeah. AKA Morning. Oh, my God.

Wait, you do you? Please tell me you don't recognize that. I've heard your show before. Okay. Oh, no. That's the normal answer we get now. Oh, no, it's thank you. That's the answer.

That's a response, Jeff. Okay. Thank you for picking up the phone, Kim. If you're familiar with the show, then you might be familiar with our second date update segment. Unfortunately, yeah. Oh, you are. You do know him. Okay.

Since you responded that way. Well, unfortunately or fortunately, you are part of one now. So congratulations. Welcome, Kim. Welcome to the club. Yay for me. That's right. I'm going to take that sincerely.

We will. And we're calling on behalf of a guy that you went out with recently, a guy named Jake. Oh, my God. What? Jake. Yeah. It's worse than the reaction to us. Which is hard.

Yeah. You remember him? Yeah, I remember Jake. He seems like a really nice guy. Because, you know, we spoke to him, but we're wondering what you thought about the date. I mean, it was like one of the nicer dates I've been on in a while. That's not what I was expecting you to say. Why are you disgusted by that?

I know. It's like, you, a girl, a guy who can take care of a girl? Ew. Why are you saying take care of her? I mean, she ended up paying for half anyway. I just met he chose a nice restaurant. Oh, he told you that? Then you guys went Dutch at the end?

He said you insisted. Yeah. I'm bedmoing them. Yeah. I mean, that's the problem. What do you mean? What? The problem is that you wanted to pay for yourself?

And you did? No, no. Like, not that part. Like, that part's fine. Okay. I'm talking about, like, after the day. I Venmoed him for my drinks. And, like, his demo history popped up.

Oh, yeah. I love looking at people's Venmo history. I put mine on private. Yeah, mine's not private, but I see people all the time when I pay that. I'm like, oh. What was on it? It was diabolical. I mean, all of these ladies, like Trish has a kissy face next to it.

And then Brittany has a dress emoji next to it. And then Lisa has a gift box next to it. Like the list are you, these are prior transactions that Jake has done, what, giving money? Yeah, these are prior transactions. He's sending these girls money. Oh. I thought you found the only man that was finally getting paid by ladies. Me too.

I'm like, what's your trip? I see. It's the opposite. He's giving out money to a bunch of women. He's not a jigolo. I think he's a sugar daddy. and we're not exclusive. We just, you know, it was one date.

I get it, but I'm not into, you know, like guys just dating multiple people at the same time. Wait, hold on. Are you upset that he's dating other people? Are you upset that you think he's a sugar daddy? Like, I don't know what it is, but in the last month, it's just a ton of women. It's a ton of emojis.

And to me, that makes a ton of red flags. I know, but you're also jumping to a lot of conclusions. Like, what if he's in a lot of, fantastic book club with a bunch of ladies. Yeah, that's highly likable. Or when you're credible businesses, they say to put random ones so that they can't be taxed. Yeah. I didn't think

about that. Because the thing is, it sounds like you never asked him about it, right, Kim? I mean, I didn't have to. It's right there. Well, yeah, but it could be interesting to hear the explanation behind those transactions. I wonder too now. And this is the perfect time to get that explanation because Jake is actually on the other line right now

wanting to talk to you. Jake, what type of book club are are you in? I'm not in any book club. Oh, bro. Come on. Okay, say you're sending into small businesses. Come on.

Talk to Kim here. What's going on? I don't have to lie to anybody. It is what it is. I didn't think that she would go through my Venmo history. Well, it's kind of there. Wait, hold on. You say it is what it is.

Yeah, thank you. I've been a lot. I see a lot of ladies and I pay. Huh. Oh. What do you pay for? Yeah, it's not dinner if you're Venmo. them.

You can use your credit card, right? Sometimes I'll pay for the pre-dinner or whatever it costs. Oh, my God. Wow, the snack before dinner. Kim, I can't believe you were right. Yeah. I know. I thought it was going to be like, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Listen, you've never said, oh, it costs me X amount of money to get ready. I have to look good. I have to dress nice for you. I've heard that. We've heard it on our show before. Yeah. Well, I mean, if you're over paying for, like, people, then you can pay for how I

prep for this day, because I got new foundation. I got... Oh, there we go. Wait, you're going to get a refund now? So, Kim, you want me to pay for your stuff now? I mean, you really were very insistent on pay. Well, I mean, before, no, you just seem like a sugar daddy, but, I mean, if you're paying

for gross things, then why not? My foundation, my mascara, $10.00. Are you just trying to get revenge with a Venmo? I can't tell, Kim, because, like, you pay for your drinks. You wanted to pay. Right. Don't you like the independence of paying for your own stuff and not feeling emboldened to somebody?

And, Jake, by the way, I did have to get ready before I did this segment. Yeah. Come on, man. Well, you know, if you're... If you're all about spreading joy or whatever you said before, like, I could use a little bit of joy. The key word is ladies. Lady. Oh, okay.

I can use a lady emoji when I send you the Venmo request. if that makes you feel more comfortable. I mean, you guys, get in line. I'm ahead of him. Well, okay. And you can send for my drink. Wait, do you want your 50 bucks back or do you want more than that to compensate for the other stuff? Yeah, like, how much did it really cost for you to get all dressed up and pretty for it?

$90. $90? $90? Let's just make it a nice, cool $100. Oh, yeah. For giving her more money. Perfect. He's like buying your affection, Kim.

It's not my affection. And it's a lot of people's affection. Like he said, he's spreading joy. If he's doing it, might as well take advantage. So are you not interested in him romantically? Is this just a business? Well, let's find out because Kim, we would like to offer to send you and Jake on another date. And if you say yes, we will pay for it.

Do I get to be a sugar daddy then? No. You were against this, the entire segment. You can't just change at the last minute. If I can come into the role of power, it may be more. All right. You're behind me and Kim. in the payment line.

So, Kim, first with you, what do you think about Jake? Giving him another chance. I'm going to say yes and the Vimol payment. No, on the second date. Oh, my God. Okay. That's actually a pretty smart business. I mean, yeah.

I didn't know I was dealing with a business woman. Bro, are you going to really send it now that you know you don't have a day with her? Sounds like you met your match, Jake. Yeah, I'm going to send it. I said I would send it. Oh, my God. Wow. Wait, does that mean Jeffrey's getting paid to?

Yeah. And, bro. This hat costs $40. bucks. Yeah, we'll just keep it like that. Yay! You're a good guy, Jay. You just said yes because you're cheap, Jeffrey. Just made Alexis jealous again. No, again, my brother's name.

I'm Jorge Ramos. And I'm Paola Ramos. Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time as uncertain as this one. We sit down with politicians. I would be the first immigrant mayor in generations, but 40% of New York were born outside of this country. Artists and activists, I mean, do you ever feel demoralized?

I might personally lose hope. This individual might lose the faith. But there's an institution that doesn't lose faith. And that's what I believe in. To bring you depth and analysis from a unique Latino perspective. There's not a single day that Paola and I don't call or text each other, sharing news and thoughts about what's happening in the country. This new podcast will be a way to make that ongoing intergeneration,

conversation, public. Listen to The Moment with Jorge Ramos and Paola Ramos as part of the MyCultura Podcast Network on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In early 1988, federal agents raced to track down the gang they suspect of importing millions of dollars worth of heroin into New York from Asia. We had 30 agents ready to go with shotguns and rifles.

But what they find is not what they expected. Basically, your stay-at-home moms were picking up these large amounts of heroin. They go, is this your daughter? I said yes. They go, oh, you may not see her for like 25 years. Caught between a federal investigation and the violent gang who recruited them, the women must decide who they're willing to protect and who they dare to betray. Once I saw the gun, I tried to take his hand, and I saw the flash of light. Listen to the Chinatown Sting on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or anywhere you get your podcasts. You guys, I have some disappointing news.

What's up? Management says I can't accept payment from listeners just because I got all dolled up for the second date up. Wow, Jack. And I thought you looked so good. I really, I thought so, but now apparently I have to return the money and quote unquote. quote, show proof that I did. Oh, wow. And those pretty boy pants you thought you were going to get paid for.

It's hard. This is a rough day. Dude, how did this girl switch so fast? I guess she just wanted to get paid. She didn't want to get. Yeah. I wouldn't say the thing that rhymes with paid. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Spade. Yeah, that's it. Wait, it's actually the opposite. Yeah. Well, she's not alone. We're actually getting a lot of texts at 78592 from our listeners who want to get in line to get paid if he's still offering. I mean, if he's like, I'm handing out free money, you're like, why not take free money?

But it's obviously not working for him. He's like, coming to us for help. But if it makes him happy, whatever, everybody wins. Exactly, that's what he said. He said is his way of spreading joy. Yeah, let him spoil people. Only with hot women. Not maybe the people that need it.

Hey, again, let him spoil people. Another way to spread joy is to share our podcast. Oh, yes. So go tell a friend or force a family member to listen. Spread some joy at Brooke and Jeffrey. I'm Jorge Ramos. And I'm Paola Ramos. Together we're launching The Moment,

a new podcast about what it means to live through a time as uncertain as this one. We sit down with politicians, artists, and activists to bring you death and analysis from a unique Latino perspective. The moment is a space for the conversations we've been having us, father and daughter, for years. Listen to The Moment with Jorge Ramos and Paola Ramos,

on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your... podcasts. It's important that we just reassure people that they're not alone and there is help out there. The Good Stuff podcast, season two, takes a deep look into One Tribe Foundation, a non-profit fighting suicide in the veteran community. September is National Suicide Prevention Month, so join host Jacob and Ashley Schick as they bring you to the front lines of One Tribe's mission. One Tribe saved my life twice. Welcome to Season 2 of the Good Stuff. Listen to the Good Stuff podcast on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

Hi, it's Gemma Spag, host of the Psychology of Your 20s. This September at the Psychology of Your 20s, we're breaking down the very interesting ways psychology applies to real life, like why we crave external validation. I find it so interesting that we are so quick to believe others' judgments of us and not our own judgment of ourselves. So according to this study, not being liked actually creates similar pain levels as real life physical pain. I'll learn more about the psychology of everyday life and, of course, your 20s this

September, listen to The Psychology of Your 20s on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In early 1988, federal agents raced to track down the gang they suspect of importing millions of dollars worth of heroin into New York from Asia. Had 30 agents ready to go with shotguns and rifles and you never. Five, six white people pushed me in the car. Basically, your stay-at-home moms were picking up these large amounts of heroin. All you got to do is receive the package.

Don't have to open it, just accept it. She was very upset, crying. Once I saw the gun, I tried to take his hand, and I saw the flash of light. Listen to the Chinatown Sting on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or anywhere you get your podcasts. The NFL is rolling. That's right, and you should be listening to NFL Daily as we march along to Super Bowl 60. It's in the name, NFL Daily, so you'll have fresh content in your feed all season long. Greg Rosenthal in an all-star cast

of co-hosts for previews and recaps of every single game. NFL Daily will keep you up to date with everything you need to know so you can sound smarter than all your friends. Listen to NFL Daily on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. No purchase

necessary. Void where prohibited. Ends 2-826. Open to legal residents of the 50 U.S. states and D.C. 18 and over. For complete details, how to enter, prizes and official rules, visit Toyotas Game Day Giveaways.com. Thank you.