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Welcome to the podcast.
We got a new episode for you today.
It's your second date podcast with Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Yeah.
We're home for this stuff.
Loving the dating drama.
And we love the comment board even more.
You know, whether you leave your comments on Spotify or on YouTube.
YouTube or you text them to
78592. We see them all.
I do. I try to peruse every social
media outlet of ours every day and see what
I can find. And I want to use that word.
I like that. Thank you. I feel good about it.
Are we in Europe? I know.
I feel good.
But one comment I did see is crucy from
Canada. Yeah. Said I'm from Canada
and absolutely love this podcast.
I dived into this rabbit hole around
six months ago. And now
listening to every podcast kind of
feels like one of those bad relationships that you can't
leave.
Hey, look at that.
We're toxic for you.
Yeah, we got you.
But drama, you can't turn away.
I know, but we're cute and we're with you.
We mean well.
Yeah.
We mean well.
All right.
Well, let's continue this relationship with your brand new second date starting right now.
Second date update.
Ah, sports.
They're not just a good excuse for excessive drinking and yelling at referees.
What?
Sometimes they're a great way to accidentally meet some.
buddy cute and if you're playing them get some exercise in while you're at it
okay boring jeff back to the cute part it's apparently how one of our listeners met the girl
he wants to call today through the magic of sports hey awesome i love adult sports yeah brian
were you watching sports or were you playing them um i was playing
are you on a league for something yeah yeah i'm um i'm in a rec league uh that's a soccer league
Oh, okay.
Nice.
Oh, okay.
So you're athletic.
I was in one of those for a while, and the games were like at 11 o'clock at night.
I'm like, poof.
Yeah.
I'm done.
My roommate used to go to games too late.
The whole point is to roll it into like a social activity afterwards.
Like, you don't want to do it in the morning.
That's weird.
Then you go drink after it.
Maybe I was too old for it, Jeff.
Yeah, there you go.
So that's cool.
You're in a rec soccer league.
And who did you meet?
There was this new player, Hannah.
Oh, she was on your team.
They put her on our team.
She just signed up and they put her on our team.
Cool.
Oh, okay.
And I thought, wow, she's really cute.
Okay.
Oh, wow, I got to play good today.
Yeah.
Bring my A game.
Yeah.
Yeah, I welcomed her.
You know, I tried to be in her area when I could be around her.
And timeout, I would compliment her.
Nice path.
Wow.
Don't get crazy.
So flirty.
Yeah.
You can obviously tell that you were totally.
flirting with her. Yeah, I didn't want to come on too strong, but the game, the game
got going on. And I, I ended up scoring the winning goal. Nice.
Dude, you did it. That's exciting. It was very exciting, actually. He congratulates me,
and everybody was all happy and everything. Did Hannah jump into your arms and give you a big
kiss right on the mouth? No, but I got a high five at that point. I got a high five.
Just as good. Second best thing. Yeah. That's first base. So wait, is this the date or did you
finally ask her out?
Well, afterwards, we often
go out drinking, the team. So she went
out with us. There you go. And
we started talking, and I
found out some things about her. Like, she liked
to paddleboard, and she had the cat.
She's funny. Is she paddleboard
with the cat? That'd be cute. No, but you
sound smitten.
The fact that you remember two details
about her, we are absolutely
over the mood. No, it's like the way he's saying it,
like through a smile. I'm, oh, I can't.
Okay. She's so
I mean, I can't even.
I mean, it's been a couple years.
I've been single, so she checked all the boxes.
Aw.
That's awesome, man.
Okay.
So did you find out, is she single?
I mean, so we're talking and, you know, and she left before I did.
Oh.
I went outside of bar and I was like, hey, you know, I know we're on the same soccer team.
And maybe it's okay if I could ask you out.
Oh, all right.
What was her response?
Well, she kind of hand and I was like, yeah.
I don't know about math.
Oh, man, you don't want to go out.
And I was like, but I didn't give up.
I was like, come on, if it doesn't work, we'll just go back to being, you know, soccer teammate.
Right, there's nothing to lose.
It's not like you guys were friends previously.
Exactly.
I was like, come on, let's give it a shot.
And I got her to say, you know, let me think about it.
Okay, you got to let me think about it.
A girl.
I got to let me think about it.
Women absolutely love a man drunkenly begging them to give them a chance and go out.
Like, come on.
I was like, immediately if you keep asking, I don't know, she could say,
oh, he's persistent, or she can be like, he's a little thirsty.
I think I'd say yes after enough tries.
Just so that you wouldn't have to keep on saying.
Oh, that's true.
Did she think about it?
Well, she was in, finally, she's like, okay, let's do it.
Hey, there we go.
Life times the charm.
I think it's kind of cute.
So she told you that outside the bar, she was willing to go out with you.
No, no, we exchanged numbers, and she texted me later saying, okay, let's do it.
So she really did think about it.
That's better because she meant it.
Yeah.
That's a good point.
So where'd you guys go?
Well, nowhere.
The next day, she changed her mind.
What do you mean?
Oh, no.
I got a text from her.
Uh-huh.
And she was, it's like, I thought about it, and maybe it's not a good idea.
Oh, no.
Come on.
Again, she's, like, right in the middle.
She's, like, part of her's like, not really.
And then part of her's like, actually, yeah.
Well, the drunk part of her is like, yeah, maybe.
And then the sober part's like, this is a mistake.
There's still a chance here, though, is what I'm saying.
She needs to stop thinking.
much. Yeah. I know. I agree. I mean, you know, I'm right with you guys. And I was like,
stop thinking so much. You know, you know you want to. That's what I was thinking. You know,
you want to. So after that, did she show up to the next game or the next of the next game? She didn't
even show up. Oh. And I was thinking, oh, man, I made her uncomfortable, you know.
I mean, everything you did is pretty innocent. I don't know that it should be something that
would make her so uncomfortable to not show up unless you're not telling us everything.
are you being 100% truthful
with all the details? There's nothing I can
think of that I'm leaving out that did anything
dopey or anything. Like no
unsolicited photos also got sent to her
phone. Right. Nothing like that.
When you were begging her for a date,
did you have your pants on at the time?
I did. Good.
Zimper was down, but the pants were off.
Sure. I mean, I know these seems like ridiculous questions,
but I swear, you have no idea how many times we've been
blindsided in the second part of these calls
with the details that come out. She'll be like,
yeah, he lit himself on fire. He was, oh, I forget.
Not to mention that.
I don't think that was important.
Okay.
So, and how long has it been since you last spoke with Hannah?
That we've actually checked.
It's been over almost two weeks, a week and a half ago.
Oh.
Since the text?
Okay.
We'll see if she even remembers you still.
Oh, she'll remember.
If she didn't show up at the game, there's a reason.
Well, we'll come back and we'll try to find out why your brand new teammate on your
intermural soccer team doesn't want to go out on a date or even show up to the games anymore.
It's affecting the team now.
Yeah, rude.
We'll confront her right after this.
Second Date Update.
If you're just joining us for the second date update,
our listener Brian played a little game of intramural soccer
and scored more than just the winning goal.
He scored a love connection with his new female teammate, Hannah.
Yes, okay, Hannah.
A true soccer batty, or saddie, as we'll call her.
Soccer baddie.
Yeah.
Coming up with a bun.
I thought it was saddy because she wasn't calling him back.
It works on so many different levels.
I'm coming up with all sorts of cool slang for the Gen Zers to use.
We don't have to combine every word.
It's so fun.
Okay, fine.
It's going to be for Gen Alpha.
They'll pick it up and they'll actually appreciate it.
The whole team, though, went and grabbed drinks together after their game.
And Hannah told Brian she'd be open to going out with him.
After he asked her nine times.
Right.
Yeah.
Persistent.
In fact, she texted him that later on in the night and then suddenly
changed her mind the very next day.
Yeah. Classic saddy
behavior. Yeah. But now
we're stepping in. We're going to try and fix it.
Brooke? Yeah. Your
take? Oh, my
take is... What do you think he's going to ask you how's your day going?
Yeah. Take it away.
My take is after
she got home, she had a couple more
glasses of wine and was binging her favorite
show and was like, ah, fine, I'll go out with him.
And then the next morning,
she's like, what is I thinking? Yeah. But I don't
think that means that we can't convince her still.
Ryan, what do you think of Brooks theory?
That she's addicted to alcohol.
What?
This is not what I say.
Well, I hope not.
I hope she feels the same way when she's not drinking.
Yeah, I think you need to come up with a pros list.
Be ready for it when we finally introduce you onto the phone.
Okay.
Like reasons why.
That sounds like fun, doesn't it?
I'm like, yeah, okay, pros and cogniz.
No, no, just pros.
Just like reasons she should say yes.
Like, you kept asking her, but you didn't give her why, you know?
We do love making pros and cons list of guys.
Yes, for sure.
Good.
Yeah.
Let's just call.
We'll see what happens.
Hello?
Hey, is this Hannah?
Yes, this is Hannah.
Who is this?
This is a radio show calling you called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Hi, good morning.
What?
I said good morning.
I like that.
Yeah.
Oh, good morning.
Sorry, I know.
Oh, she's.
He's hungover, Jeff.
You're probably not used to having a radio show call, but this is a segment that we're doing called a second date update.
Okay.
It's when someone goes out on a date with another person or they met somebody really cool and they're not getting a call back for a second meetup.
We can reach out on their behalf to try and help them figure out why.
Okay.
In this scenario, you met a guy recently named Brian.
Right.
But I don't understand
I didn't ever go on a first date with him
Yeah
Yeah okay we understand
We know that he did tell us
But according to him
You said yes to going out on a date with him
And then changed your mind the next day
And didn't even show up to the soccer game
Yeah
That's fine
He just wants to know maybe why
Why you changed your mind
I guess where do I start
How much do you?
you know, what do you want to ask me?
I mean, the snapshot of what we know is you played soccer together, you went and grabbed
drinks afterwards.
Yeah.
You said yes to a day, but then changed your mind the next day.
Right.
So I am single, and one of the reasons that I wanted to play soccer in this league is because
I wanted to meet other people in the city.
And if I'm being honest, I looked up all the guys on the roster just to see their status.
So you don't want to pick him right away.
in case somebody else who's cuter.
She loves a good midfielder, but she's open to the goalie, you know, whatever.
So does that mean that there was somebody else who caught your eye on the team?
Well, not necessarily.
So I was actually disappointed because every single man on the team is married.
Oh.
Wait.
Every including Brian?
It was confusing.
I'm not sure what he is because it says that he's not married.
but he is kissing a woman in his pictures.
Oh, what the heck?
Is it old photos from like years ago?
No, they're not that old.
And I just, I was like, okay, I don't want to get involved with any drama.
And so.
So wait, you think he's, Brian's in a relationship?
Yes, at the very least.
Oh.
You might be totally right.
He could be absolutely married and lying to us, but it would be strange to have him reach out to our show
and have him listening to this call the entire time.
Oh, yeah.
Because I need to let you know, Hannah, he is there listening to this.
Oh, okay.
Hi.
Brian?
So, wait, you snooped on all our media pages?
No.
That's weird.
That's not weird.
People do it all the time.
And it's not like I was digging through it.
I just wanted to see what everyone's relationship status was before I embarrass myself.
That's called doing your research.
It's so normal.
Exactly.
And the fact that you're not immediately coming out saying,
I'm not married is a big red flag here, Brian.
That's a good point.
Well, I'm not married.
What are you then?
It's kind of late.
It's an easy explanation, okay?
I know exactly what picture.
Okay, have you kissing another woman?
That's my sister.
Oh, that makes so much sense.
No, that doesn't make sense.
You are kissing her on the mouth and you're holding her waist.
I don't that does not look like a sister picture
Oh man what the heck
And if it is that's even more worrisome
That it is a relationship
Hold on biological sister or step sister
Because clueless opened the door to a little bit
Right what's going on
That's my sister listen we're a close family
Okay and it's not weird to us
Okay
So you would be comfortable introducing Hannah
to the woman that was in that photo
My sister? Yeah
I mean, do you not, like, you know, I don't know if you have a brother or, but do you not kiss your brother or your dad on the letter?
No, I do not.
Okay, well, we do.
I don't think kissing on the lips with family is weird.
I know you're going to be like, oh, Brooke doesn't think that's weird.
Yeah, of course you don't think kissing your cousins is weird.
But, like, posting a photo of it and also holding their waist at the same time is, yeah.
There's something sensual about that where it doesn't feel.
There's nothing sensual about it.
For my point of view, for a very close family.
I'm proud of the tightness of our family, okay?
Okay.
No, you are right.
Some families are way closer.
I have the question I think is going to finally clear everything up here.
Brian, have you gone to second base with her?
Is that a family thing?
My sister? No.
All right, he has a limit.
Hannah, I wish you would have texted me and just asked me, like, you know,
hey, who are you kissing this fiction?
I mean, I wouldn't have gone on to the radio to find this out.
You should have tagged your sister so she could have stalked your whole family on
social media too and figured it out.
I did have her tag
but recently she said could you take the tag off
because she thought it was real.
Okay.
Okay.
It's rude.
So maybe it was just a photo that was taken
at the wrong time and it's a totally
innocent thing, Hannah.
It's just the tongue.
You can see the tongues touching.
It wasn't just one picture.
He had like half a dozen on here.
Half a dozen, wait, half a dozen sisters
or half a dozen pictures of the same sister?
Pictures of kissing his sister.
They were all of kissing her?
I don't even have that many photos with my brother's normal.
What are you guys do where you're getting a photograph that often?
I think it's just high and by.
Who's taking them?
They're a loving family.
Come on, guys.
I don't know.
It's not weird to us, guys.
It's my sister.
You know, when we see them.
Yeah, I know.
I mean, I don't know what else to say.
You guys is like, why is it so weird?
Okay.
We're all ganging up on Brian right now.
And Hannah, what if he really is just a good family guy?
You know, that's not bad.
That's a positive thing.
I know.
It is.
I mean, listen, the fact that he got on the radio and wanted to go out with me so badly,
I appreciate that gesture.
And he's taking this pretty well.
Like, you're going hard.
And I'm sure Brian would be willing to have his sister call you directly and be like nothing has ever happened between us.
And rate him on how good he is at kissing.
Oh, that's nice.
Oh, listen, nobody's training my kissing with my sister, okay?
It's a normal thing.
If you look at it, you can see it.
I mean, listen, kissing my sister and kissing someone I'm interested is totally different.
Okay, so he knows that.
Okay.
And maybe part of the reason that you were so upset by the picture is you were a little bit jealous, Hannah.
So.
Well, yeah.
There you go.
I do.
I do.
I'm interested.
Okay.
It's just weird that it's a sister, and it might take me a while to get a home.
for that. Well, maybe, okay, take
a day, but in the meantime... No, no, no.
Don't let her take a day because last
time she changed her mind. Oh, right.
Okay, you have five seconds to decide. Would you
like another date with Brian?
Come on.
Okay, yes. I will
give him another chance.
All right. There you go, Brian.
And come back to the team, too.
Come on. I forgot about that. He's on his knees, begging
you. Please.
Okay to that, too.
All right. All right, guys, it's over.
Group kiss.
Yes.
No. We're not related.
Oh, come on.
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But three times.
John and Ann Bender are rich and attractive,
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You know, if you take all of the second date updates that we've done this year alone, it's been a lot, like a hundred, 120 maybe.
Is that how many we're at?
Just this year, I think.
It's pretty incredible that we got a way.
woman to say yes to a guy
who admits to mouth kissing his own
sister. We should be proud of that.
You know, we never asked if it was closed mouth or
old mouth. We didn't ask if there was clothes either.
That's a good question. I was on Facebook.
I assume it was a peck.
But why so many photos?
Yeah, that's the thing where it's like we need to
capture this. Even the sister's like, yo
bro, you got to take that down.
You'd hope? Oh, wait. No, she
did take it down. Well, he
at least is proud of his family.
family and the family bond that they share.
And we should be proud because it says something about us
that we can make the sister kissers of the world seem normal.
And dare I say, sexy.
Yeah.
Well, your sister's coming to town soon, isn't she?
Oh, yeah.
She's supposed to come visit and see my new house.
Who knows what might happen?
Kisses for everybody.
We'll see.
But, you know, if you need our help, kissing or anything else, you know,
you can always email the show.
We'll call that person.
person who's not calling you back.
Go check out all of our second-date updates.
They're up wherever you get your podcast at Brooke and Jeffrey.
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Look, the world can seem pretty scary right now.
But my goal here is for you to listen and feel a little better about the future.
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