Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - Second Date Update: First Date Worth The Wait

Episode Date: May 24, 2023

The guy in today’s Second Date was willing to do something that took A LOT of patience, selflessness, and understanding… hear if his sacrifice was worth it in the podcast!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Ugh, we're so done with New Year, New You. This year, it's more you on Bumble. More of you shamelessly sending playlists, especially that one filled with show tunes. More of you finding Gemini's because you know you always like them. More of you dating with intention because you know what you want. And you know what? We love that for you. Someone else will too. Be more you this year and find them on Bumble.

Joel, the holidays are a blast, but the financial hangover, that can be a huge bummer. If you are out there and you're dreading the new statement email that reveals the massive balance that you may have racked up, well, you could use our help. That's right. I'm Joel. And I am Matt. And we're from the How To Money podcast. Our show is all about helping you make sense of your personal finances so you can ditch your pesky credit card debt once and for all, make real progress on other crucial financial goals that you've got, and just feel more in control of your money in general. You know it. For money advice without the judgment and jargon, Listen to How to Money on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Hi, I'm Ed Zitron, host of the Better Offline podcast. And this January, we're going to go on the road to beautiful Las Vegas, Nevada, to cover the Consumer Electronics Show, tech's biggest conference. Better Offline CES coverage won't be the usual rundown of the hottest gadgets or biggest trends, but an unvarnished look at what the tech industry plans to sell or do to you in 2025.

I'll be joined by David Roth of Defector and the writer Edward Ongueso Jr. With guest appearances from Behind the Bastards Robert Evans, It Could Happen Here's Gare Davis, and a few surprise guests throughout the show. Listen to Better Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever else you get your podcasts from. Second date update. What do you think is a good time of day for a first date to start? Ooh, a first date, I don't know, 6, 7 p.m.? I was going to go this day. Oh, your p.m.? I like to start mine early. 4 p.m.? I was going to go this way. Oh, your p.m.? I like to start mine early.

4 a.m. What? It's dark, so you don't have to worry about how you look that much. What are you talking about? Yeah, Jeffrey really gets it in. Some people do a morning workout, he does a morning date. It's nice and peaceful. No one's around to distract you, swoop in, possibly steal your date away.

Everyone's in bed. But I get it. Some people like them later on in the day. Yeah. Like this group. But one of our listeners, Vincent, says his date started too late. Oh. What?

And that could have been a problem for him. Vincent, welcome to the show, man. Hey, thanks so much for having me. Don't get Jeffrey started. It started at 6 a.m. Is that what you're saying, Vincent? Yeah. Tell us about when yours started.

How did that all happen? Yeah. I mean, honestly, it just took me by surprise. I met this girl, Jackie, on a dating app. And I kind of liked how in her profile, like she had a lot of pictures of her with modern art, like she'd gone to like the MoMA in New York City or like the Dollar Museum and stuff. And I minored in art history. i kind of liked that i guess a little bit and uh and it's an easy thing to talk about exactly so is that what your opening line with her was was about like jackson pollock or something yeah something like that i actually don't even remember but i i offered to meet her after work and then just go to like a bar from there or something and she was pretty chill about that uh okay that's cool

which was i thought kind of nice to be like okay meeting you at your work already that kind of was exciting to me um see that's why my idea works so well because you start the date and then go to work well before yeah we're going back to the early morning yeah i think that this is more happy hour time she's late to the day because of the morning commute. I don't know. Was she working an overnight shift? What time was it? No, I mean, I got there like six.

And then I just kind of like sat outside of her work for a second because she kept on texting me like, oh, I have like this project deadline and it's going long. And I'm so sorry. How long were you waiting out there? I actually didn't see her until about 9 p.m. Whoa. What? You waited three hours? What did you do?

That's a long time to wait. Did you take yourself to dinner? I should have, right? I was starving. No, I mean, I just kept on waiting, and I was, like, watching TikTok, I guess. Our TikTok, at Brooke and Jeffrey. Good idea, Vincent. Thanks for the shout out.

You know it. I love when Jeffrey, every time there's a moment, his eyebrows raise like, I can plug it. We appreciate you following us on TikTok. He's like, so what did you two do? Speaking of you two,

we're also on there. I mean, why didn't she just reschedule? Like, that's crazy. Or why didn't you? It was just one of those things where it kept on getting pushed. So, like, every 10, 15 minutes she was like, okay, I think we're wrapping up.

And then she would apologize, and then she would feel, I felt like she felt really bad about it all, so I kept on being like, no, no, no, don't worry. You know, work gets busy. I understand. Like, sometimes I have late nights as well. Totally. She would have felt like she had blown it if you had canceled on the date at the last second. She did blow it though.

Well, I mean, we don't know that. And I'm sure she, I mean, like when you finally meet her, is she totally fried? Like she's now been working like a 12 hour day overtime. That's exactly what happened. When she finally like came downstairs, she just kind of looked totally exhausted. But she still wanted to go out. And I said, you want to just call it? She was like, no, no, no, you waited all this

time. Let's go at least for a drink or something. At least it shows you that she's considerate, bro. I mean, she knows she's late. She's self-aware. See, I don't know. Some people we talk to have no idea what they did wrong. It sounds like she, I mean, I have this tendency too, where you think you have all this time. She just sounds like a terrible

time management thing. She shouldn't have even planned a date for that night. So, I mean, did you end up actually going out with her or was that it? Yeah, no, we did. You know, we got to the bar and we had a good time. And we played this random game. We just came up with it at the time. We were called the arts or not art

where we just like pointed at random things in the bar or randomly. But let's talk about the fun parts of the date though. That is fun. Art or not art, where we just like pointed at random things in the bar or randomly. But let's talk about the fun parts of the date, though. That is fun! Art or not art? Yeah. That's funny. Okay. No, that's just a table. I have nothing else to talk about. Alright. What was the most fun piece of art in the

bar? I don't know. I kind of like noticed this one kind of schlubby looking guy who was in the corner and he was kind of like doubled over his drink a little bit. And I pointed at that. I was like, do you think that's art? But the way that the light was kind of projected from above him, I thought was very artistic.

And she did as well. Hey, look, it's overweight statue of David. That had to be their moment. If you guys bonded over it, then all the power to you. So how did the night end? But yeah, no, I mean, after we played that, her energy still was super low, even after the

slumped over guy under the fluorescent lights didn't get her all jazzed up. I think she wanted to play nap or no nap. That's what it sounds like. It's just such a bad night to catch her on, man. How'd you leave it? It kind of just ended super abruptly. I suggested changing venues,

or I had a couple friends who were going out to a different bar, and then she just kept on kind of turning everything down and yawning. And so it was just like a weird ending. She just kind of, like, hugged me. And cuddled up underneath the drunk guy and was like, just leave me here. Yeah, me and him can cuddle. So how long has it been since you last talked to her?

It's been essentially like four or five days. She may have just been sleeping this whole time. Yeah, she's just in a big recovery nap. If she had a huge project for work, she may have still been swamped. Maybe she just hasn't had time. Well, we're going to call her in just a few minutes here. We're going to tell her work isn't that important. You need to date.

That's a good life lesson. We'll tell her to blow off her work plans and go out with you one more time when we get your second date update right after this. All right. Hold on, okay? Second date update. It's the first date that was worth the wait.

Oh, I mean, not really. Kind of. Yeah. At least that's what we're hoping for in the end. Right. Because one of our listeners, Vincent, says he sat in his car outside of Jackie's work for three hours. I don't know why I just assumed he was at a coffee shop or something. He sat in his car this entire time?

I thought that's what he said. Oh, I didn't realize that either, actually. Let me ask him. Bro, you were in your car? Vince, were you in his car this entire time? I thought that's what he said. Oh, I didn't realize that either, actually. Let me ask him. Bro, you were in your car? Vince, were you in your car the whole time? No. Jeff just made it up. You made it sound so much more pathetic, Jeffrey. You know what? Let's start it again.

One of our listeners, Vincent, was sat in the vicinity of her work. Yes For her to finish so that they could hit the bars together Just watching tik-tok video. Yeah, that's the kind of commitment from a guy that most women would dream of Your husband wouldn't wait three hours for you to do anything. Wow, that kind of...

That's a little harsh, Jeffrey. She's like accurate, but... But see, that's the kind of... I wouldn't blame him. I wouldn't wait for three hours for him either. There's a thing as being too available. Yeah, good point, Alexis. Committed is the type of guy that Vincent is, so we're all eager to help him.

But Vince, first we've got to do a couple prank calls, so if you could just hold on for a couple hours. That's very funny. I'm not waiting for this. There we go. He's a demanding man. He's learning from his lessons. Put your foot down. That's all we can ask for.

Unless they're really quick, and then I can wait a little bit. Oh, no, bro. We're back to the starting point. You're too nice. I don't know how you have so much free time. Yeah, what? Do you have plans? I appreciate your openness for us, Vincent. We're going to do our best here.

We're going to call Jackie. You ready? Yeah, super ready. Thanks. All right. Hello? Hey, we're looking for Jackie. Yep, that's she. Hey, we're looking for Jackie. Yep, that's she.

Hey, Jackie. You're on the radio right now with Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Welcome to the show, Jackie. Hey, what's up? Surprise. Oh. That's Brooke's surprise sound. Yay.

That's exciting. Why? What? Good question. We do a segment on this show called the Second Date Update. I'm not sure if you're familiar with that, but we try to help out listeners who've gone out with someone recently and are having trouble setting up a second date.

And so you went out with a guy named Vincent who wants to see you again. I did. Yeah. Okay. What do you think about Vincent? I mean, he's a very nice guy. Oh, man. Nice guys.

No, it's just like that description always. Like, if you were to describe a girl as like, oh, she's a very nice woman. Yeah, it's the same thing. No one wants to be nice. You're not 100% in on Vincent yet. Honestly, I don't know if I like anybody. Oh. Oh, you are liking him. So it's not vincent it's just people sure humans i mean i think a lot of people can relate to that sentiment before we

we walk down the lonely path with you can we go back to the date night because vincent says you made him wait for three hours outside of your work. Yeah. He wasn't complaining about that, but he just said that he was willing to wait for that long in order to see him. And that's a long time for a guy to wait. Oh, man. Well, so I kind of lied. I wasn't actually at work, really. What?

Wait, what? He said that you were texting the entire time and you're like you had some deadline and it kept going later. What the heck? I know, I was at home in my pajamas with my cats reading a book. Oh, that's so rude.

Oh, that's bad. I was just kind of hoping he'd just give up after a while and go out. Oh, man. Why did hoping he'd just give up after a while and, you know, go out. No! Oh, man. Why? Why did you want him to give up? Like, he made this whole plan with you. Well, here's the thing.

I really like the idea of dating and having a boyfriend and going out and having a great time. But, like, in my heart of hearts, I am just a homebody. And, like, it gives me a little bit of stress to go out, and I was like, maybe you'll just stop texting and be like, oh, okay. It sounds like you're working too late. Yeah. You were too far.

Yeah, you just, like, it's way more stressful to lie to someone for three hours and feel terrible about it. I assume you felt bad, right? I did, and that's why, like, I re-put on my work clothes, and I assume you felt bad, right? I did, and that's why I re-put on my work clothes. And I drove to my office because he's waiting

around a bar right by my office, so I was like, okay, he's gonna see me not come out of my office, so I snuck into the parking garage. Why are you laughing? No wonder she was tired on the date. She was literally in bed right before it started.

Did you have any fun on the date? I mean, yeah, he's very nice. I mean, he waited, I guess, and had some fun. And he, like, did this thing, because I liked art and stuff. He did this thing where we played like this. We got the full art breakdown. Yeah, we... Jeff hates the art breakdown.

Fully versed on all of the art. It's going to be bedtime for us if you do that. Overall, what it comes down to, it sounds like, you wish that you could have a boyfriend, but when it comes down to actually doing it and actually going through with the dates, you would rather not be doing any of that. My dream date is like sit on the couch and watch a movie.

Oh, I feel you, sister. Get takeout. We're going to adjust your dream date to being surprised on the radio by a mystery man on the other line who wants to talk to you. Who's that? Oh, you didn't guess. It's Vincent. Yeah.

Big mystery. I didn't think I had to spell it out. Yeah, he's there. Listen. Oh, God. What didn't think I had to spell it out. Yeah. He's there. Listen. I've been here. I'm just trying to process. Uh, Oh man.

What's going through your head, Vincent? Are you mad? No, I'm not mad. I'm just more just confused of like, why didn't you just say, I'm just not feeling it.

That just seems so much easier. Yeah. I don't know. Cause I was like, I've said it to people in the past, and they've just kind of been a kind of a jerk, so I just was avoiding all of that awkwardness, and I was like, it'll be so much

easier for you to make the decision not to hang out. Oh, then you'll feel less guilty if he cancels. I think dating both people want to bail equally for the night off, honestly. Vincent, do you want to apologize for not bailing sooner on the date? I mean, yeah, maybe I should have bailed, I guess. Maybe I should have had that sort of like self-respect earlier on.

Oof. Oof. I wouldn't go. Don't go too hard on yourself, you know? You kept like breadcrumbing me and saying, oh, I'm almost off. I'm almost off. Give me a second. And I didn't realize, you know, how much someone would want to go out on a date with me, I'm almost off. I'm almost off. And I didn't realize, you know, how much

someone would want to go out on a date with me, I guess. Oh, you're worthy of a date. Which is why, I mean, I put my pants on and went out. We're proud of you. Not a lot of women are willing to do that for guys. Vincent, you got a girl to put her pants on

instead of take them off. I'm going to do the whole rigmarole for you, Vince. Now it just her pants on instead of take them off. I'm going to take a whole rigmarole for you, Vince. Yeah. But now it just kind of feels like indicative of a larger problem. Like, let's say we do enter in a relationship, you know, or let's say something actually does get tougher in our relationship. Are you just going to shut down like that in a larger capacity? Oh, God.

Don't think about that stuff. I thought you were just going to think about, like, what if there's a cool party and she doesn't want to go with me? Yeah. I don't know. If I'm comfortable with the person, it's much easier to turn off the loud noise in the outside. I don't know people on first

dates. It's just like the first, second, third dates are always a little tougher. Dating's hard right now. You can kind of understand that, right Vincent? Yeah, dating's really hard. I You can kind of understand that, right, Vincent? Yeah, dating's really hard. I know that because I waited three hours for you. Good job, Eric.

Well, they both went through pain that night. And maybe it brought you guys closer together. It's possible. And Vincent, if you heard Jackie, she likes to do stuff at home. Don't you maybe want to like snuggle up, watch some Netflix? Both put on your PJs? Some of the best dates i've ever had were all delivery all on a couch just talking no pants on yeah you could pay for it no i i do like that you know i'm not a total extrovert by any means i think we're we have some good momentum here and that's why i want to offer to send you guys on another date. On us.

Or we can, yeah. We'll give you an Uber Eats tab so you can deliver food in. Like a gift card. Yeah. Maybe like a daytime date just so like it's not after a long day of work and I'm tired. Hold yourself accountable. Yeah. Yeah. I see what she's doing.

He's going to show up to her apartment and she'll already be back at work so then she'll have to sneak into her own apartment through the back way through the fire escape it does feel a little strange i mean only say yes if you really want to go jackie please yeah no i i mean i gotta get out of my comfort zone and and now that you already know my entire story i don't have to explain it to you anymore. Vincent, she was open and honest. She's a little bit socially anxious when it comes to first dates. But now that you've got the first one out of the way, the second one should be super easy.

What do you think? I think as long as it's like an Uber Eats thing or whatever, give it to her and put it in her port. Oh, you want her to make the effort. She's going to order without you. Blame yourself. It's a classic Alexis movie. Who wouldn't? Why would you wait?

Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. We're so done with New Year, New You. This year, it's more you on Bumble. More of you shamelessly sending playlists, especially that one filled with show tunes. More of you finding Gemini's because you know you always like them. More of you dating with intention

because you know what you want. And you know what? We love that for you. Someone else will too. Be more you this year and find them on Bumble. Joel, the holidays are a blast, but the financial hangover, that can be a huge bummer. If you are out there and you're dreading the new statement email that reveals the massive balance that you may have racked up, well, you could use our help. That's right. I'm Joel. And I am Matt. And we're from the How To Money

Podcast. Our show is all about helping you make sense of your personal finances so you can ditch your pesky credit card debt once and for all, make real progress on other crucial financial goals that you've got, and just feel more in control of your money in general. You know it. For money advice without the judgment and jargon, listen to How To Money on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Hi, I'm Ed Zittron, host of the Better Offline podcast. And this January, we're going to go on the road to beautiful Las Vegas, Nevada to cover the Consumer Electronics Show, tech's biggest conference. Better Offline CES coverage won't be the usual rundown of the hottest gadgets or biggest trends, but an unvarnished look at what the tech industry plans to sell or do to you in 2025. I'll be joined by David Roth of Defector and the writer Edward Ongueso Jr. With guest appearances from Behind the Bastards' Robert Evans, It Could Happen Here's Gare Davis, and a few surprise guests throughout the show. Listen to Better Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever else you get your podcasts from.