Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - Second Date Update: Flea Market Find
Episode Date: June 11, 2025Our listener on the phone today says his date set a boundary before they even met in person. He had to say “yes,” to get a shot at her, and now we’re trying to get her to say “...Yes” to a Second Date!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Here it is, just another brand new second date podcast.
Yep, no, just that. What second date podcast. Yep, just that.
What you came for.
So you found it.
It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
And today, I guess it's all about maybe stipulations,
I'd say, agreements before you even go out on a date.
Always hot.
Always good signs.
Yeah.
I don't know if I would have said yes to this,
but he was game.
Oh, yeah, he was.
You're going to hear in just a second.
But first, commenters, what do we got, Alexis?
Yeah, Kel said, I literally will disrupt my coworkers
to let them know what happens on each episode.
They know the podcast by association only.
They're hearing it secondhand.
I love that.
She's kind of like the Cliff Notes of our show.
Basically.
I appreciate that about her.
I really do. I bet that about her. I really do.
I bet that makes their workday better.
Yes, exactly.
Thanks for being here.
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Second date update.
If anyone's been out on a date recently,
you know how expensive it can be.
Not just for the food and drinks, but the blindfolds and the rubber bands
Yeah, you do need a place to park when you set up all the rubber bands
I see and I cannot find one strong enough to hold my wrist down anymore
It's the tariffs god the tariffs on maximum strength rubber bands from Indonesia
They are through the roof right now. You should try the rubber bands. They put on asparagus. Those are the fat boys
Not strong enough. Oh, no like 200% more expensive not stronger Jeff. Yeah, but those the only place that make them stronger
So much money, I'm just I'm happy that our listener Leo figured out how to save a buck or two on his date recently and I'm very curious how he did it. So Leo
welcome to the show. It was like what is happening? Leo are the rubber band tariffs hitting you
hard too. Or did you rubber band yourself? Oh no I'm still here I'm doing
alright. That's good Leo. Where you get your extra strength rubber bands from
That's actually kind of smart yeah, I got I got a drawer that I got too many of them
But hey, I know you went on a date with somebody recently. What's her name?
Her name's Marissa. Okay. Where'd you meet her? We matched on bumble and we connected over a love of dogs
You know, we each have two dogs and it's just we we can't get enough of them
I mean if we lived in bigger places, then we probably have more than just two, you know what I mean?
Like 101 Dalmatians that movie is like oh goals okay but you said in your email you were able to
save some money on your date how did you do that? Oh yeah so when we matched at first she was very
clear that she wanted to be friends she didn't want to jump into anything like relationship. Here we go. She was
Yeah, yeah, so I suggested after we matched just grabbing a coffee, but he countered with how about we go to a flea market? Oh
Okay, that's how you save
That's how you saved money on the flea market discounts, Yeah, I was willing to spend it. It was her idea
I think it's impressive that you are good with being friends first. Yeah
I'm sort of the kind of guy that doesn't really want to jump into anything too fast myself So I do have friends that are women so like if we decide that it doesn't work out
It's like okay
Well, if we're at that friendship level first and we can say that way and then you know, yeah, it's a positive
Naturally friends first but what Brooke was saying to to be like I'm setting the tone friend zone right away
It's good that you worked with that. Yeah, it's refreshing
So take us to the flea market, though. How did that go?
It went OK, which is better than OK, which is kind of weird to me why I haven't heard from her since then.
But before I get into that, yeah, we met up there and she looked like her pictures.
Thank God she was really, really cute.
You wouldn't want a friend that looks like somebody else.
I think, yeah.
The friend thing does make it different now, Brooke.
Yeah.
That's right, you can't really judge that much.
Okay.
So she was excited to be there too
and bargain hunt and all that.
And we walked around that flea market
for a good hour and a half.
Okay.
It's almost been a lot to see.
Yeah, what did you get into?
Like a crate of old used VHS tapes or rubber bands?
Jeff's favorite. Yeah, no rubber bands, but we did see VHSs. There was a station that had a lot of
those. Oh, man. Shocking. They're not selling so quickly. No one probably has the machines to play
them. Okay. So how was your connection with Marissa? It was good and I know that sometimes for these things you guys ask what we talked about.
We actually talked about taxidermy.
What friends don't.
I don't know you're at a flea market you're bound to find a couple of like stuffed squirrels or
Yeah we saw a booth for that actually for taxidermy in fact, there was actually a fox there with a monocle on.
So Marissa thought that it looks like elegance
and I thought it looked straight up haunted.
I was like, I would never let that into my home.
Haunted by the stuffed fox.
Well, that sounds like a funny point of conversation.
Fun moment.
Yeah, it was, it was.
Did you guys buy anything, take anything home?
Yeah we each got one thing. I got a Fleetwood Mac record and she got one of those novelty aprons
where it looks like there's a shirtless firefighter on the front. Oh I like her. Silly. All the cool
stuff. So is that it? Well yeah that's it. We each got the one thing and then I walked her back to her place and on the way back
it was starting to get kind of chilly so I gave her my jacket and when we got to her
place I was like, oh yeah, you can just hang on to it because I was so confident that we
would meet up again because that's how well the first date went.
And now she's not answering any of my texts or calls
and it's like, hey, as much as I would like to see Marissa,
I would also like my jacket back.
Yeah.
You know, if you think about it,
this cheap date actually costs you a lot of money
if you lose that jacket.
True.
Yeah.
Taxidermy is not cheap, Jeff.
I could imagine, yeah.
Yeah, that didn't happen, thank God. Yeah. Fox is only haunting his dreams is not cheap Jeff. I could imagine yeah, yeah, thank God
Is only haunting his dreams not his house. Yeah, right. How long has it been since the flea market date?
It's been about two weeks. Oh
You've gone without a jacket for two weeks. That's not sure it's not his only jacket
I don't know if you were it. I know And the one he feels like he looks good in.
Yeah.
Yeah, it is my favorite jacket.
I've got like one or two others, but they're not.
They're not my favorite, you know?
Yeah, totally.
Oh, man.
Dude, this is dire, Jeffrey.
I know.
This is code red.
We're going to reach out and call Marissa, try and get you, one, your jacket back, and
then two, possibly another meetup with her when we do your second date update coming
up right after this
second date update
Friends ghost each other right yeah, I mean
Yeah, eventually you get back together
Alexis if a friend wore the same outfit as you they're getting blackballed for like
My friend's outfits. Oh, that's true! They probably shouldn't talk to you.
You still call dibs on it, though.
Yeah.
I look cuter in it.
It just seems like if you agree to go out as friends first,
then there'd be less pressure on the, like, hangout,
and you wouldn't get ditched.
Right.
Yeah, if you're just focused on being friends,
you're just focused on having a good day.
Exactly.
Maybe she's a terrible friend.
That could be.
Have we ever considered that?
No!
It is weird, because our listener, Leo, has not heard from Marissa for the last two weeks
After they hung out and the worst-case scenario
I'm thinking of is if Leo goes back to that flea market and his jacket is up for sale
Worn by the Fox with a monocle. Oh even worse
Leo have you checked the flea market or possibly eBay for your jacket?
To be fair no I have not okay great jacket caper. That's what she does
And then resell them on secondhand stores see anything is possible
Especially since he's the one that recommended the flea market in the first place, but you never thought about that leo
No, I didn't think about that anybody will put a lot more thought into it why you come to the show
we're creative creative investigators like do we bring up the jacket maybe after you know bring it
if she says yes to a date is it more important that you get the jacket back or that you have another hangout and stay friends with Marissa?
I gotta be honest. It's more important to me that I get the jacket back because I really like that jacket
Okay, and you've only met this girl one time and she wants to be friends
It's gonna really hurt her feelings when I tell her that but
That's what he wants, okay, I'll, you know what?
I'll hold off, I'll hold off.
I mean, she might want the jacket more than him too.
We don't know.
It's possible.
Let's find out.
I'm gonna dial her number right now.
Let's see if she picks up, but here we go.
(*phone dialing*)
Hello?
Hey, is this Marissa?
Yes, this is Marissa. Who's this?
Hey, this is probably the weirdest phone call you're going to get all day.
Unless you've like already talked to your ex or something, but you're on the radio right
now with a show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Wait, I'm, wait, this is the radio?
Yeah, it still exists.
And a podcast, but yes.
Yes. We're a show, but yes. Yes.
We're a show, we try to help out our listeners who've hung out with somebody recently and
they're not getting a call back to hang out a second time.
That's weird.
It's actually not weird.
It's our bread and butter.
We do this every day.
A lot of people don't get calls back.
That's a good point.
But it's weird for you.
We get understand why that would be strange.
A strange call to take.
I've never heard this, so it's just...
Oh, totally. Yeah. Why that would be strange strange call I've never heard this so it's just
So we're trying to help out our listener that you hung out with recently named Leo. Oh
Yeah Remember Leo. Yeah, I do. Sorry. I'm like catching up right now
Okay, so he called you. Yeah. Yeah, we spoke to him before and he told us about your hangout at the flea market
Yeah, we spoke to him before and he told us about your hangout at the flea market.
OK, so he probably wants his jacket, I assume. So I can just like leave it outside my place.
That's all you're focused on is the jacket.
You're not focused on him at all.
I'm just not really into him.
OK, but I thought that you just wanted to be friends.
That's what you said. Like, you're not into him even as a friend.
Yeah, I think when people start dating the idea should be that you start as friends and then if it progresses from there great
But I just don't really see any hope for that in this situation
After one well, it's fair like you're allowed to feel that way. I don't know I just feel like if you're gonna start it as friends. You've got to be more open
You've got to give it a little bit more time because sometimes friendship in general just takes time like it's so bad that you know
Yeah, I mean what can I ask was there something like one particular thing that made you feel that way when you were hanging out with him?
Overall I can tell you this
The date itself was pretty good. Okay was nice. He's cute. I like him. We
did have a nice time. That is not the response I thought you're gonna say. I thought you're
gonna say like there was no sexual chemistry or
Brooke does have a lot of sexual chemistry with all of her friends. I can understand
a lot of family members too. So kind of blurs the lines. But for you, I know
exactly what you mean. So for you, what was it exactly?
Okay, so the date was good. It's just when I got home, he let me borrow his jacket, because
it got kind of chilly. And when I hung up the jacket, this little, okay, this little
piece of paper fell out. I picked it up and he had
made a list titled things not to say on the date with Marissa oh sometimes I do
better in my head if I write things down yeah depends on what things he was
telling himself not to say to her yeah Yeah. Can we know what some of the things were?
There was one that said,
don't talk about the ex like you did with the last girl.
Oh, well.
Okay.
That's an important reminder.
I've got to learn.
That one should be number one on this list.
That's fair.
Right, it's weird that it's been an issue.
Like it's something you have to remind yourself not to do.
I mean, that's like a red flag for me.
Okay, what's another one? There was something that said I girls don't like crypto chat again like it's
just another weird thing like if he's super into crypto that like clearly why
is that a red flag he could be into crypto this means he's potentially rich
yeah he's a traitor. No not no
She's right every crypto bro will tell you they're rich, but not all of them are Okay, right on that. I mean, but you don't see these things as just I don't know thoughtful preparation before a date
I just think it's better to plan nice things than to write out things
You should not do that you usually do that turns people off
Things you should not do that you usually do that turns people off
I know it's like it's a good thing to say don't
Because one of the things that I wrote down was don't tell Marissa that Leo is on the other line listening and wants to talk
For God was I not supposed?
My god Marissa wait yeah, right Leo's on the other line listening to this conversation. I know you're kidding
I told myself not to say that to you
I'm sorry Leo. Are you there?
Yeah, I'm here. This is this is pretty awkward, okay
Yeah, I know I'm sorry, and I know I wasn't supposed to say it. So the awkwardness I can't believe you did that. I can't believe you didn't tell me that.
I've heard my bad.
Wait, you're mad at Jeffrey though, right? Not Leo.
I I'm I don't even I'm upset. I don't know.
It was my fault. It was my fault. I'll take the blame. Leo, talk to Marissa
about what you just heard.
Uh, well, I mean, the good thing now is that you know all my weaknesses,
you know all the bad things that I try to not do on our date.
That's a positive, right?
Okay, well, you also wrote on your little list,
remember to tip this time.
Oh, no.
You don't usually tip.
Oh, my gosh.
This is all, they're all red flags, the things that you're saying that you usually do.
And don't do this, don't let her like see who you are,
is what this list feels like.
Marissa, I don't think you were reading the note right.
The note actually said, don't forget to tip big.
Hey. No.
So, you're on. No.
Oh.
No, I didn't.
And now you're just lying.
Oh, I like, listen, listen.
Marissa, I mean, you've got a person here who really likes you,
who's trying to be a better person.
I mean, what more can you want from someone?
A guy who can admit their flaws is nice.
You seriously and actually take action to change them.
I get someone who doesn't have so many red flags
and issues talking about his ex all the time
and doesn't tip and is into crypto.
This is so messed up. I think it's your perspective though. I think if you looked at it the other way, they're all green flags. Talking about his ex all the time and doesn't tip and is into crypto
I think it's your perspective though. I think if you looked at it the other way they're all green flags And I know I haven't heard him mention his ex-girlfriend once during this entire phone call
And he doesn't have his little paper in front of him to remind him not to do that
We didn't even know he had one. Yeah, I actually I actually wrote that on the paper before I called the radio station actually
But I'm doing well
Okay, I feel like I'm being set up and I kind of want to go now Well Marissa don't you feel like maybe you're being a little bit harsh and judging him a lot for like a piece of paper that
you found no, not really like
Even like someone I want to I just don't even care enough.
No, but you will hold on to his jacket for two weeks.
Oh, the jacket. What are we doing there?
She said that she'd leave it on her doorstep.
Oh, that's right. I'll put it out today.
No, wait, don't put it outside. Someone's going to steal it. It's a really nice jacket.
Yeah. And then they're going to have all the tips about what not to do on the first day.
So Marissa, would you at least meet up with him to hand him his jacket in person?
I'll put your jacket out at 7 come and get it at 7. Okay. Well, there's a deadline
Marissa, I'm just gonna say that you're not as nice as you were on our first date
And then it's not gonna help you make more friends if you're not this nice, you know what I mean?
That's that's some friendly advice Thanks for the tip friends if you're not this nice. You know what I mean? That's some friendly advice.
Thanks for the tip.
I think I'll be fine.
Oh, and he tips.
See?
Look what he does.
That was a big tip.
He really comes through.
Those bullet points are working well.
It really is.
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Ugh, we're so done with New Year, New You.
This year, it's more you on Bumble.
More of you shamelessly sending playlists. Ugh, we're so done with New Year, New You. This year, it's more you on Bumble.
More of you shamelessly sending playlists, especially that one filled with show tunes.
More of you finding Geminis because you know you always like them.
More of you dating with intention because you know what you want.
And you know what?
We love that for you.
Someone else will too.
Be more you this year and find them on Bumble.
Yeah!
I'm Andrea Gunning, host of the podcast, Betrayal.
Police Lieutenant Joel Kern used his badge to fool everyone.
Most of all, his wife, Caroline.
He texted, I've ruined our lives.
You're going to want to divorce me.
Caroline's husband was living another life
behind the scenes.
He betrayed his oath to his family and to his community.
She said you left bruises, pulled her hair,
that type of thing.
No.
How far would Joel go to cover up what he'd done?
You're unable to keep track of all your lies.
And quite frankly, I question how many other women
may bring forward allegations in the future.
This season of Betrayal investigates
one officer's decades of deception,
lies that left those closest to him questioning everything
they thought they knew.
Listen to Betrayal on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcasts.
Man, I'm just reading the text board after that second date, and someone actually scored each of our performances.
Oh, wow. They said, Jeff, succinct, humorous, off-the-cuff, handsome. Nine out of ten.
No one texted that in. Alexis, Jose, and Brooke combined. Nine out of ten no one Texas Alex's Jose and Brooke combined
nine out of ten
Yikes
Disappointed in all of you that you guys didn't try harder for that poor poor man
Alexis you promised to do better next time
You're not even sure Jose you, you in on doing better?
I don't know what's going on.
I'm just happy I'm a three.
Brooke, please, will you actually
try for our listeners?
Yes, always.
OK.
No wonder you guys were all rated threes.
But if you want to find out.
Email us.
Now that you've heard our enthusiasm.
Exactly.
You can email us if you want us to help you
with your dating life.
But go check out all of our second dates wherever you get your podcasts.
They're up online at Brooke and Jeffrey.
Camp Shane, one of America's longest running weight loss camps for kids, promised extraordinary
results.
But there were some dark truths behind Camp Shane's facade of happy, transformed children.
Nothing about that camp was right.
It was really actually like a horror movie.
Enter Camp Shame, an eight-part series examining the rise and fall of Camp Shane and the culture
that fueled its decades-long success.
You can listen to all episodes of Camp Shame one week early and totally ad-free on iHeart
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So don't wait, head to Apple Podcasts and subscribe today.
DNA test proves he is not the father.
Now I'm taking the inheritance.
Wait a minute, John, who's not the father?
Well, Sam, luckily it's your Not the Father Week
on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon.
This author writes,
my father-in-law is trying to steal the family fortune
worth millions from my son, even though it was promised to us.
He's trying to give it to his irresponsible son,
but I have DNA proof that could get the money back.
Hold up, they could lose their family and millions of dollars?
Yep. Find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast
on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.
I'm Andrea Gunning, host of the podcast Betrayal.
Police Lieutenant Joel Kern used his badge to fool everyone, most of all, his wife, Caroline.
He texted, I've ruined our lives.
You're going to want to divorce me.
How far would he go to cover up what he'd done?
The fact that you lied is absolutely horrific.
And quite frankly, I question how many other women
are out there that may bring forward
allegations in the future.
Listen to Betrayal on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Have you ever thought about going voiceover?
I'm Hope Woodard, a comedian, creator, and seeker of male validation. I'm also the girl behind voiceover, the
movement that exploded in 2024. You might hear that term and think it's about
celibacy, but to me voiceover is about understanding yourself outside of sex
and relationships. It's flexible, it's customizable, and it's a personal process.
Singleness is not a waiting room. You are actually at the party right now.
Let me hear it.
Listen to voiceover on the iHeartRadio app,
Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Recipients have done the improbable,
the unexpected, showing immense bravery and
sacrifice in the name of something much bigger than themselves.
This medal is for the men who went down that day.
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