Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - Second Date Update: Foodie Call

Episode Date: July 31, 2024

One of our listeners admits that within 5 minutes of their date starting, she WENT OFF on him all because of something he did at the dinner table… Find out what happened in your Second Date podcast!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hi, I'm Ed Zitron, host of the Better Offline podcast. And this January, we're going to go on the road to beautiful Las Vegas, Nevada, to cover the Consumer Electronics Show, tech's biggest conference. Better Offline CES coverage won't be the usual rundown of the hottest gadgets or biggest trends, but an unvarnished look at what the tech industry plans to sell or do to you in 2025.

I'll be joined by David Roth of Defector and the writer Edward Ongueso Jr. With guest appearances from Behind the Bastards' Robert Evans, It Could Happen Here's Gare Davis, and a few surprise guests throughout the show. Listen to Better Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever else you get your podcasts from. Second Date Update. If you think about it, dating these days is a lot like the game Uno. You put one down, you draw two more, skip, reverse to someone from your past. Draw another four.

Skip again. God, give me a wild card. All you want to do is narrow it down to one, but it never ends. You just can't get out. What happens if you hit a reverse uno? You have to leave the date? Yep. In a way, everybody loses.

But one of our listeners says she feels like she may have met her Uno. Oh, that's cute. That's Spanish for the one, Alexis. Obviously, I know that. I can't get past five. There was a wild card that was dealt to her early on in their meetup, so let's talk to her and find out about it. Carolyn, welcome to the show. Hey, thanks for having me.

Oh, my gosh. I'm so excited to hear about Uno. Well, yeah, you said there is a wild card dealt to you. What did you mean by that? Well, I feel bad because I completely went off yelling at this guy within like the first 10 minutes. Oh, wait. You were yelling at your date? What the heck?

Yeah, but there's like a reason. But I feel bad about it. And I should have popped off like that. Oh, my God. I cannot wait to hear this whole story. Yeah, what happened? Okay, well, we went to this restaurant. And I put in an order with like the waiter.

Okay, wait, hold on. Did you already meet him there? What's his name? His name is Jeremy. Okay. Okay. And we had like a couple conversations, you know, like text and whatever. But this is our first time meeting face to face.

Okay. So you're at the table or you're at a walk-up counter or something? We're at the table. We had just sat down and the server comes over, you know, pretty quickly and asked for our order. And I kind of looked at the menu before we went and I knew what I wanted. I knew that all the time too guilty it is that is so Jose's move so I put in my order and like we didn't talk about

it or anything I just like gave the waiter my order and then he steps in he goes um actually no we're not gonna do that wait wait wait Jeremy your date stepped in and was like actually no don't order that? Exactly. Wait, was he talking to you or was he talking to the waiter? Because it's even more condescending if he was just talking for you to the waiter. No. Yes, he was talking to the waiter.

That's why I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Oh, so it sounds like he had a game plan of he was going to impress you with his menu and you kind of went willy nilly on it. I would be upset, too. But yeah, what he should have done is go, oh, if you really want this, let me just adjust. How do you know? Like, why did he do that? Well, I kind of went off on him and I was like, well, why are you controlling what I'm ordering? Like, I look at the menu. I really want this. Like, this is what I want. And then he just said, like, I've been here before and like, you don't want to get that. It's not very good, and I'm trying to save you from it.

I swear, there's other better things on the menu. Oh, my God. And the waiter's just standing there awkwardly. That's a tough start. Yeah. It was so embarrassing because I had never been to this restaurant. I didn't know that wasn't their star dish. How did he react to you yelling at him was he apologetic or was he like

should be oh did he yell back huge that's where i like kind of feel bad because he was like super nice about it we got back to the date and like it went really great from there but like i don't know it was just really did you end up getting that dish or did you get a different one like he said to do? I actually ended up getting a different dish. Okay. Well, it does bring up a good question, though, because I know how Jose feels about this. But I do want to ask the ladies, is it ever okay for a guy to order for you or cancel your order without talking to your first? No. Without talking?

Oh, God. No. She had every right to yell. I mean, how would you feel if a woman did that to you? Like, it's the same thing. Like, it's like anybody canceling your order. Like, it doesn't matter, male or woman. Well, the last time I went off on my mom when we were at Red Robin, it just kind of created a scene when she put in my cheeseburger.

No, I don't want the California burger. I want the onion burger. I want the Whiskey River barbecue. You know that about me. I love that one. I mean, why do they sell anything else? That is by far the best burger. Yeah. It's different dynamic between that and a first date.

Like that's your first interaction in the first 10 minutes. I also, and I, and I'm fully admitting to you guys, like I popped off. Like I looking back, like my tone was like a 100 yeah but you said that he was apologetic you know it sounds like it didn't you know you had the rest of the date to recover did you yell again ever no no it went great and like we even talked about like seeing each other again oh and like how much fun we were having which is why i'm like well i don't know is this why he's like not calling me back because i went too hard well i don't blame you and i don't think he would either i mean the thing is is that if you guys had just had like 30 seconds to discuss the menu

together beforehand all of it would have been avoided and during that convo if a guy's ever gonna pull the shovel remove it's hard you have to be open and say, hey, would you like to order? Would you like me to give you a suggestion? Is that okay? Like, you have to say, you don't just do it. And plus, the waiter was right there, too. Yeah. Witnessing it, all of it.

It's just like a bad scenario. It's not just you that looked bad. He looked bad, too. Totally, totally. I have to say, like, it was my initial reaction because I've been in prior horrible controlling relationships. Look at you with that baggage. Don't we all got it? You're short tempered.

Right. But the good news is they did plan. At least they said they were going to meet up and go on another date. It's weird that he hasn't followed through on that, though. You haven't left him any voicemails where you're yelling at him. Why aren't you calling me? Or all caps, text messages, possibly. Audio messages, anything. No, I promise. It was like none of that. lean at him why aren't you calling me or all caps text messages possibly audio messages anything no

i promise it was like none of that okay well then let's come back call jeremy for you and figure out what's going on and why he hasn't followed through on his promises maybe we'll be the ones to yell at him when we come back for your second date update right after this second date update normally when we hear about a woman screaming at a man five minutes into their date, it's usually Brooke telling us how her weekend went with her husband. I don't see the issue. What do you mean you're tired and your back hurts? I mean, honestly, come on.

But this one happened on a first date with our listener carolyn because the waiter was at the table when carolyn put in her order for a dish and the guy immediately stepped in and said actually no she's not gonna have that god that just rubs me the wrong way i mean even me a guy who loves to be chivalrous yeah you don't do it like that. So Carolyn had a combination bad day going plus gut reaction to him saying that and just went off on him. The thing is, there was a good reason for it because he had actually tried that dish before

when he visited the restaurant and knew it was not good. So he was attempting to step in and save her from eating something she probably didn't want to eat. I mean, it just looked so bad. I want to hear the waiter's point of view from this whole story. She was ordering a water. Because that was the thing.

The waiter was standing right there. I mean, honestly, it was bad reaction from both parties. But the good news is they did get past it and ended up having a pretty good time together, even planned out their next meetup at a different restaurant. And she said he was apologetic and actually nice about it. Yeah, the weird part though is that Jeremy's now being snakey snake and not coming through on his

promise of another date. Slime ball Jeremy. I mean do you think you're going to go off on him when we get him on the phone if he says something not nice? Yeah, if you don't feel like doing it, Brooke will yell at him for you. She's really good at it. I've heard you pop off, so yeah, you can handle it. Okay.

In a tag team situation, both of you girls can go off. He's going to be crying by the end of this if he doesn't answer correctly. Every guy likes a tag team, just not that type. I don't know. You never tried it, Jeff. All right, maybe I'll try it after we call him. Brooke always offers, and you always say no. Yeah, I don't know how I feel.

I just want to call Jeremy, see what he has to say. Hopefully he picks up, but here we go. Hello? Hey, is this Jeremy? Yeah, who's this? What's up, Jeremy? My name is Jeff. He was talking to me.

Okay. Excuse me. Do you know what's funny? I heard your what's up like you were trying to be cool right there like what's up i was cool what's going on yeah yeah well we almost made it 20 seconds into a phone conversation without someone berating me but we can edit that down so it's only 10 seconds it's fine jeremy you're on the radio right now with a show called brooke and jeffrey in the morning this is the show hey jeremy, Jeremy. What's up, man? Oh, hello.

Hey. What's going on? We are doing a segment called a second date update, and I'm not sure if you know what that is, but we're attempting to help out one of our listeners get a hold of you after you went out on a date with her. For real? Yeah.

It's a girl named Carolyn. Oh, my God. you gotta be kidding me okay okay why did you react that way i thought you guys ended the date by saying you wanted to see her again yeah and yeah that is just what you say you know when you're on a first date that isn't going well we we heard a lot. Jeremy, we do a lot of these calls where people ghost after a first date. That's pretty normal, but usually

it doesn't happen after you make specific plans with that person and pick out a restaurant. And that's why it's so interesting to us, like why you're not following through with that promise. Gotcha. To be honest, in my mind, I was never ever going to follow through with the promise gotcha to be honest in my mind i was never ever going to fall through with the second date what wait wait when did you decide that when did you

decide there was never going to be a second date within like the first four or five minutes of the first day okay she told us about some of the things that happened and that there was a big argument early on after she put in an order is that what you're talking about yes that exactly a hundred percent but you know you messed up a little bit we talked about it well is it just are you turned off that she exploded and yelled at you because there was an argument because to us it sounded more like it was a misunderstanding between the two of you no no no no no there's no misunderstanding. So she tried to order $600 worth of caviar. Wait, what?

Wait. What did you just say? What? Yep, you heard me. Yep, she tried to order the most expensive. She flipped the menu to the most expensive section and then ordered the most expensive thing. Wait, wait, hold on.

Was it one of those restaurants where they don't list the price? You know what I mean? Like maybe she didn't know. It's like market price. Oh, no. She knew what she was doing. Okay.

You know what? Well, hold on. If you were already turned off in the first five minutes, why did you say that you wanted to go out with her again and plan a whole date? Because if somebody orders $600 worth caviar and within five minutes of a first date i don't know they're gonna have they're gonna react to any situation in life so i'm just like oh hey hey no you're trying to just i mean to come to her defense listen like she ordered it you said no she got upset because she thought you were controlling her

not because i mean she didn't mention the price at all to us she didn't say oh he's like a rich guy it sounded like she actually felt bad and she didn't end up ordering it. Yeah, when I jumped in and told her that we can go to another restaurant and get even better caviar, that's the only time that she, you know, then she started apologizing. Oh.

No way! Oh, she got those caviar dreams. Yeah, and before that she was just calling me cheap and that if I can't afford to go out with a woman, she should just pay for it by herself. I mean, just really nasty. That's degrading, brother. I mean, I don't know.

If she could afford that, she could be your sugar mama. It sounds like. That's one way. There's no way she could afford that. She was just saying that to make me feel bad. Well, hold on. She did change her order. Well, we don't know if she could afford it or not

unless we actually ask her. Is that too far? I don't know. she could afford it or not unless we actually ask her. Is that too forward? I don't know. Jeremy, I have to tell you, Carolyn is on the other line right now listening to this conversation. No way. I can't hear you. Carolyn, are you there? Down here.

What the hell, Carolyn? You didn't tell us you were trying to order $600 in caviar. Oh, my God. Please. That is cheap. Like, come God. Please. That is cheap. Like, come on. What? Wait.

Cheap? No one should order that ever. Yeah. I mean, I have gone on plenty of dates where that is protocol. Like, that is nothing for them. I mean, you must be going on, like, cheap dates with cheap people. And, I mean, a hot dog is okay. Like, that's not how I am.

You got it right on the nose with Brooke. That's amazing. I'd argue if it wasn't true. Carolyn, clearly there was things that were not meshing between you two. And that was not about control at all. That was about his bank account. I mean, I thought we had like a great conversation afterwards

and like at no point did you say anything to me about money or like it was too expensive. Like that was never brought yeah to me first day i'm not cheap it's a first date we're trying to get to know each other and you're basically putting down a 600 retainer for your first date you know but it's ridiculous it's like an invoice you didn't even ask me if i even like caviar you just went ahead and ordered it and you like was like, I mean, that's just how it is. Like, I didn't know I needed to ask permission. Okay.

Do you want the hot dog? I mean, who has that? It's a little bit different. I mean, were you going to eat the whole thing at caviar by yourself? No, of course not.

It was like a, you know, a serving for two. So, I mean, that's perfect. That's like romantic. It is cute.

Cause they give you the bread and like the little sour cream. I think it's interesting that you're not seeing his side of this at all. Not at all. Carolyn, are you more upset about the money thing? Or are you more upset about him making up a story about another date and not following through on that? I mean, both. Let's be honest. I mean, we lied about everything. I thought we had this great conversation.

You said you wanted to go on this second date. Where's all that information? You're not really talking about that. So is that not a thing? No, I've had more engaging conversations with my houseplants. Oh! Wow! Go get one of your houseplants,

Ben. I'm sure a snake plant is perfect for you. Oh, snake! Snake! She got him back! Maybe I will. Go get one of your houseplants, Ben. I'm sure a snake plant is perfect for you. Oh, snake. Snake. She got him back. Maybe I will. Maybe I will. Oh, wow. What I'm hearing here is a lot of passion.

Oh, is that what you're hearing? And passion is the foundation of a strong relationship. Right, Brooke? I hear a lot of houseplants dying right now, Jeff. Well, maybe we can help pour a little fertilizer on it and bring it back to life because we would love to offer to send you two on another date on us.

Don't say that. Would she order $600 caviar? Bro, we can't afford this. It's on Brooke. Yeah. $1,200 worth of caviar for everybody if you two will see each other again.

I would rather go on a date myself than with her. That's not really the burn that you think it is. Yeah, me too. I'm depressed. That's just what you do. She's just out here trying to get free expensive meals. I would doubt. Oh, so she's a foodie call. I like it, Justin.

I'm a foodie call for her. She's an S-car no, alright? Carolyn, that's not the... Being a foodie call isn't the worst thing to be named. I mean, it's... Whatever. He's lame. I don't even care anymore.

Okay. All right, Karen. I'm sure that you'll be able to find a guy that can actually afford your dates. It probably just lives in, like, Dubai or... Yeah. He owns 30 Falcons. My guess is he's 65 years old. Yeah.

But let us know if you find him, okay, Carolyn? Because we want to meet that dude. You got it. I'll find him. It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. There comes a time in every man's life when he has to decide, do I want to pay my rent or blow all that money on a $600 caviar dish to impress my date?

And apparently, according to her, there's only one right answer. That's right. Yeah. In a shocking move, though, Jeremy chose to keep a roof over his head like a total cheapo. Yeah. So it didn't work out between the two of them.

No, it didn't. That's too bad. I do feel like, though, if you are on a date and you're ordering a shared appetizer and the dish costs more than $100, maybe discuss it before you put in the order. Maybe.

I can't even believe that he took her to a, I don't even know if I've been to a restaurant with, I mean, maybe a $600 caviar, and that she was still complaining. I know. Guaranteed her plate, like her dinner already cost so much money. She probably settled for the filet mignon.

Like, okay, fine, I'll do the $100 steak. Yes, but of course with the crab on top. Yeah, and the bernese. Jose, you and I should the crab on top. Yeah, and the brunette sauce. Jose, you and I should go to a nice seafood restaurant after this. Are you hungry, though? Who's paying out of you two? Bro, I'll pay, and we've got to get beluga. You know Jeff isn't paying.

No, that's right. Get some good sturgeon caviar, though. It's pretty cheap. I'm in. It's a date. Sorry, girls, you're not invited. We're good. But if you go out on a date recently, whether it's a normal date or a bro date,

we can always help you get in touch with that person afterwards. Email the show. We'll call that person who's not calling you back. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. We're so done with new year, new you. This year, it's more you on Bumble. More of you shamelessly sending playlists, especially that one filled with show tunes. More of you finding Gemini's because you know you always like them.

More of you dating with intention because you know what you want. And you know what? We love that for you. Someone else will too. Be more you this year and find them on Bumble. Joel, the holidays are a blast, but the financial hangover, that can be a huge bummer. If you are out there and you're dreading the new statement email that reveals the massive balance that you may have racked up, well, you could use our help. That's right. I'm Joel. And I am Matt. And we're from the How To Money podcast. Our show

is all about helping you make sense of your personal finances so you can ditch your pesky credit card debt once and for all, make real progress on other crucial financial goals that you've got, and just feel more in control of your money in general. You know it. For money advice without the judgment and jargon, listen to How To Money on the iHeartRadio app,

Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Ed Zitron, host of the Better Offline podcast. And this January, we're going to go on the road Apple Podcasts, or do to you in 2025. I'll be joined by David Roth at Defector and the writer Edward Ongueso Jr. With guest appearances from Behind the Bastards' Robert Evans, It Could Happen Here's Gare Davis, and a few surprise guests throughout the show. Listen to Better Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever else you get your podcasts from.