Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - Second Date Update: Heart Eyes for Air Fries

Episode Date: August 4, 2025

One of our listeners said he did EVERY FORM of communication he possibly could leading up to his first date…. And something STILL went wrong…. See omnystudio.com/listener for privac...y information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm Jeff Perlman. And I'm Rick Jervis. We're journalists and hosts of the podcast, Finding Sexy Sweat. At an internship in 1993, we roomed with Reggie Payne, aspiring reporter and rapper who went by Sexy Sweat. A couple of years ago, we set out to find him. But in 2020, Reggie fell into a coma after police pinned him down and he never woke up.
Starting point is 00:00:17 But then I see my son's not moving. So we started digging and uncovered city officials bent on protecting their own. Listen to Finding Sexy Sweat on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. So what happened to Chappaquiddick? Well, it really depends on who you talk to. There are many versions of what happened in 1969 when a young Ted Kennedy drove a car into a pond. And left a woman behind to drown. Chappaquiddick is a story of a tragic death and how the Kennedy machine took control.
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Starting point is 00:01:28 podcasts. Every case that is a cold case that has DNA right now in a backlog will be identified in our lifetime. On the new podcast, America's Crime Lab, every case has a story to tell and the DNA holds the truth. He never thought he was going to get caught. And I just looked at my computer screen. I was just like, gotcha.
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Starting point is 00:02:14 a podcast about cults, manipulation, and the psychology of belief. Each week we talk to fellow survivors, former believers, and experts to understand why people get pulled in and how they get out. Trust me, new episodes every Wednesday on Exactly Right. Listen wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, it's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning and we got a brand new second date update
Starting point is 00:02:36 for you. Thank you so much for being on the podcast. I'm laughing only because we just spent two minutes off air trying to figure out the word breaking point. No, that's not it. Deal breaker, comment broke. Deal breaker. Because one of our listeners' deal breakers today
Starting point is 00:02:51 is intense. It's an intense thing, and I know we're gonna get a ton of comments about this woman and what she's giving up all because of one simple thing. Oh, God. You're gonna hear it in just a second, but what are some of the comments you're seeing right now Alexis? Yeah, Rosie said I've been listening since like 2013. I love you guys so much also
Starting point is 00:03:11 I love my spouse that I met on plenty of fish 15 years ago Yeah, well we were making fun of plenty of Yeah, but I love to know where people met if it was like a weird yeah, yeah 15 years ago I think plenty of fish was kind of like hot, right? Alright, was it thank you so much for being here subscribe and follow and your brand new second date update starts right now second date update Why do women ghost after showing very high interest early on. Like we're talking two weeks of nonstop flirty talk
Starting point is 00:03:49 and genuine planning of your futures together. And then suddenly one day, nope, actually nevermind. She's completely over you and doesn't want to talk to you anymore. Got the ick. Alexis, is that the reason? Is that why someone would do that? Before we stalked you, found something bad about you. I was thinking online
Starting point is 00:04:06 Yeah, well, it's something criminating like family information. Oh, I mean, who knows rap sheet Yeah, I mean if it's Alexis is just a photo taken in bad light Okay, that's one possibility Is it also possible that maybe you built up a lofty idea of who the guy was in your mind and then when you actually met him and got to know him, reality didn't even get close to your expectations? Oh, well I don't know.
Starting point is 00:04:34 Do girls build up us guys like that? Maybe it's the opposite. The guy thought she liked him for two weeks and she never did. Yeah. That's possible too. We do not pick up on something. No.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Well, one of our listeners chatted with a girl every night for almost two weeks. Every night? Then they met up and things just stopped. So now he's here. Maybe she was overwhelmed because she was so in love with you and she isn't processing it. Oh we can lie to the listeners now. Let's welcome them to the show though. Hey Brad, how you doing man?
Starting point is 00:05:04 Hey guys, how's it going? Dude, buddy, that is an investment. Two weeks of every day, like actually phone conversations or texts? We did it all. We did phone, we did text, we did FaceTimes, we did everything. Wow.
Starting point is 00:05:17 She'd even seen you before. Yeah. So you only had one meetup with this woman. What was her name? Her name's Megan and I know she saw what I look like on the FaceTime. So she knows I look like my photos. That sucks. I want to say this, but like most of the time people are dating around.
Starting point is 00:05:34 Is it possible she was talking to somebody else? I understand when you're first talking to somebody, you could be dating someone else or talking to someone else, but we had such long deep conversations. We go on for hours. It sounded like you guys connected on such a level right? Yeah. Well listen to what she told me one night she goes I could see myself growing old with you. Oh my gosh that's almost too much man. Well I've said that to my masseuse before is that not appropriate? You gonna rub me when I'm wrinkly still? Yeah. I could do this till I die. But you liked that because you were on the same page with her?
Starting point is 00:06:08 That didn't freak you out? Yeah, that was a thing. It didn't freak me out because I kept feeling like I was falling for her before we even met up. Oh. Wow. It's only weird when you're not on the same page. Oh, man. If you're both within two weeks like, this is great, and you're on the same page, then it is great. But you sound like you're 100% in on her before you even met her.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Oh my god, I started telling all my friends about her, I told my sister about her. God, you haven't met her yet. I have like a 90 year old barber that I told him about. That's adorable. I mean we do. I just know everything. Yeah, I was just gonna say. He's been around your whole life.
Starting point is 00:06:43 I mean I bet you were so nervous for your guys' first meetup, right? In person? You know what? I wasn't nervous because we had such a good connection. Okay. I kind of felt like there's only one way to go. Sure, but see, that goes back to what I was saying earlier about how it could be a little bit dangerous now that you've put up these lofty expectations for how much you're gonna connect when you actually meet in person right like with great risk comes great reward you know i agree or great let down in this case so that's the risk part of that sentence well i guess it's gonna depend because i thought the date itself went really really well well let's go through
Starting point is 00:07:20 what did you do for the day we went to outback? Okay Staying up and lofty I like it Yeah The only thing I can think of that maybe was a stupid thing to say or do I don't know Is as we're walking into the restaurant? There's this old mattress out behind it next to the dumpster Maybe I should just bring that home because I need a new one She actually laughed. Yeah, but do you actually need the mattress or is that? No, Jeff, he was kidding.
Starting point is 00:07:51 And then she saw him strapping it to the roof of his house. That's the problem. Okay. But she laughed, you said. She laughed. Great. That actually led into a conversation about what kind of dream house we would get
Starting point is 00:08:02 if we ever had one. Oh my. Oh, that's Oh, my. All the alley mattresses that one home could handle. Yeah, that's not like me. Like, I don't rush into relationships. I just it felt right. Oh, and you know that feeling.
Starting point is 00:08:15 It just feels like comfort, like home, you know. It felt like we'd known each other for years already. Wow. Like we were doing that thing, you know, where you're sitting at the table and you make little excuses to sort of brush up against the other person I don't think that's really what it's like to be with somebody for a long time you kind of are on each other's nerves by that Don't touch my shoulder. Yeah, you skipped right past the honeymoon phase into 20 years of marriage That's also good right like well the chemists. It felt amazing okay if it feels good for you. That's also good, right? Like, well, the chemistry. It felt amazing. OK, if it feels good for you, that's awesome.
Starting point is 00:08:47 How did the night end? Well, the kiss in my mind, I pictured it longer. But we did kiss. Yeah. And I told her I wanted to see her again. And she said, definitely. She said, definitely. OK.
Starting point is 00:09:00 And now she's not answering anything. Weird. How long has it been since the date? It's been six days. Six days. Which feels like an eternity when you talked every day multiple times a day for two weeks. Yeah. And you built your dream house together with each other in your minds.
Starting point is 00:09:16 I mean basically, yeah. I was going to say, and you told your 90-year-old barber. I mean you can't go back from that. He is going to be disappointed. Yeah. I know. Yeah, he's got a lot riding on this. Alright, well we cannot give your barber bad news, so we're gonna come back, get you your second date update, and hopefully end on a positive note coming up.
Starting point is 00:09:35 Thank you. Right after this. Hold on. Second date update. No pressure, but true love is on the line today for our listener Brad because he met a girl online They texted they called each other Face-timed even for hours and hours on end and got to the point where they were literally planning out their future dream home together complete with roadside
Starting point is 00:10:01 mattresses And it's not just him who feels that way he told us Megan brought up I could see myself growing old with you those were her words so clearly they were both drinking from the same vat of love juice but one dinner date whatever one dinner date though at the outback and everything is changed so nobody's the same say that all the time. Yeah Nobody's the same after but especially not Brad he's trying to figure out what happened what changed cuz she is totally Ignoring him now Brooke you're sticking with he's too sexy and emotionally mature angle. Oh, yeah She's overwhelmed. It doesn't know how to handle it and right now
Starting point is 00:10:40 She's just talking to her therapist about letting go of her old baggage and thoughts and moving forward into the future Yes, she wants to be the perfect woman to fit your perfect man. I mean, that's what I'm hoping for anyway, okay? Yeah, that's great. Yeah, okay. I'm sure that's what she's gonna say. Yeah, you call her right? It has nothing to do with a dumpster mattress at all. I would hope not. I hope she knows I'm joking With a dumpster mattress at all I would hope not I hope she knows I'm joking yeah I have a random question you said you had a quick kiss like really quick. Did you yeah looming onions? We ate a bunch of different stuff oh If her breath smelled like 20 blooming onions it wouldn't have mattered I still would have given her. Oh, why is that cut? No, that's ew, you guys. That's disgusting. I thought it was cute.
Starting point is 00:11:25 Have a mint. Oh, that is so sweet. He would kiss her even if she had hot breath. Gross. What do we need? It's really cute. If Brooke thinks it's cute, that's how you know you're doomed, man.
Starting point is 00:11:35 That's the red flag. Sorry. So let's just call her. Hopefully it's not the breath thing, but. Brooke and her husband just eating raw onions. Like, oh, honey. Gross. Hey, if you do it together, it doesn't matter't matter okay let's eject from this as quickly as possible
Starting point is 00:11:47 I'm down here right now hello hey is this Megan yeah this calm down Brooke this is a radio show that you're on right now. It's called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning. Thanks for being here. Hi, good morning! We are so happy you answered the phone. Yes. What is this?
Starting point is 00:12:18 This is a segment that we do, a dating segment called Second Date Update. Where we try to help out listeners who've gone out with someone and afterwards they're not getting a call back or no chance for a second meetup we try to help them figure out why I know you're probably expecting some prizes or whatever but I think this is even cooler than a prize yeah like could be a chance that I don't know a relationship for love depends on the prize So this is a guy a listener of ours that you went out with named Brad oh Wow, okay, yeah, yeah
Starting point is 00:13:02 I don't even want to talk about this I mean I mean it sounds like you two are so invested in each other. We've heard a lot from Brad about you, and he said that it's been six days since your date. But it's kind of felt like a lifetime to him, because I mean, that's how strong the connection was. We've heard a lot of people going on normal dates before on the show. But the way he described your connection and your kind of journey together, he put a lot of hope into this and he's felt kind of devastated that you've stepped back. Yeah, I was pretty devastated too. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:32 That's not good. Can we ask like what caused that change in feeling towards him? Yeah, I mean, we were talking about the future and everything was good. And then we met up and it started off right it was fun And it's sweet and then he said something that was just so off-putting He doesn't like pudding Like immediately you had a reaction as soon as he said this I mean at first I thought it was a joke, and then I realized he was serious. What?
Starting point is 00:14:07 Oh, God, it's not about the street mattress thing, is it? He wants to design a dream home or in a stained mattress? Yeah. No, it was when we were eating. We had a lot of stuff to eat, and I said that I make the best blooming onion in my air fryer. And he laughed at me. He laughed at you? He laughed at you? He laughed at me and he said that air fryers are a scam.
Starting point is 00:14:29 What? I mean they are just convection ovens, but right? What does that mean? Oh, he said it's just a loud toaster. Oh, that's kind of funny. I mean, it's like the George Foreman grill of today. Like everybody's buying them, everybody's got to have them. But she said he wasn't joking that he was serious. He was serious He was that passionate about air fryer
Starting point is 00:14:52 Yeah, well, maybe I was passionate about it and he wasn't but he said he just didn't believe in them and That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard So his comment about air fryers being a scam for you, that completely shifted how you saw him? Yeah, in that moment I was like, nope, I don't see my future husband. Okay. Not the trash mattress. We were joking about that. He was dead serious about this. Wow. That is such a hard take. That is weird. He seems like, huh. That's where she draws the line, like you can come after whatever else, but don't cross me and my air fryer. No, I actually met him. Oh.
Starting point is 00:15:30 Saying that air fryers were a belief system. Oh, interesting. Yeah. That is weird. You never discussed it with him and told him how it made you feel? I mean, he was so serious. He was just digging in. I just sat back and crossed him off my list oh well I can still sense a little bit of pent-up frustration that you have towards Brad even thinking about it and if you wanted to unload on him just
Starting point is 00:15:55 saying now's your chance because he's on the other line right now waiting to talk to you are you serious I don't want to talk about this anymore I'm sure he wants to say something about it Brad are you there? Hey Megan, I had no idea you were so bothered by those comments Well, I mean you were so serious, I mean, what are you gonna stick fries in the microwave? I mean you have an oven you can put things in the oven. You're sounding like a lunatic right now Brad oven. You can put things in the oven. You're sounding like a lunatic right now, Brad. Rise in an oven. You're crazy, Brad. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what to say because I mean, our connection I thought was so strong and I can't imagine that something as
Starting point is 00:16:36 simple as my feelings about an air fryer have changed your optimism about where a relationship could go. Yeah. I mean, I use it every single day. My friend use it every single day. I mean, it's like the best invention. I mean, this guy like, he doesn't understand how great it is. What's wrong with him? Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:57 Maybe that's like an invitation to teach him, bring him to the air fryer side. Make him a PB and J and an air fryer. But Brad, do you see how like you've clearly touched a nerve for her? It's not like you've just made a funny joke about air fryers. You've attacked her life. I'm just so shocked guys. I thought you were in the hospital because things were going so well. You almost put me in the hospital with your comments about that. Oh wow. That is so dramatic. I mean, it doesn't even sound like Brad really cares about air fryers that much, right Brad? I don't believe in them, but who cares?
Starting point is 00:17:31 Like I'm not going to let it get in the middle of a potential great relationship. Clearly it's an important touching point for Megan that you value it because that's how she eats all of her meals. She wants to cook meals with you in the air fryer. I mean, if you don't believe in air fryers, what's next seasonal candles fitted sheets marinating things overnight? You do not believe in fitted sheets bread Okay, I think we're putting a little too much emphasis on one kitchen appliance, I mean go buy an easy bake oven. I don't care You guys are laughing at me, but it's it's a deal-breaker
Starting point is 00:18:17 You can use your air fryer. He doesn't care if you use an air fryer I mean like but he also is like I don't believe in them at the same time Well, he hasn't had her bloom an onion, you know, he may change his mind You think you're getting invited over to try any of my food? You'll never taste her bloom an onion there Brad Well, we went from the most romantic story of all time to air fryers burning down a relationship. Yeah. It was pretty simple.
Starting point is 00:18:51 Yeah, and quick too. Under 15 minutes. They're so efficient. I can't believe I actually imagined myself growing old with you. You're clearly going to die young from the way you're eating. Oh, wow. That was dark. I mean, I got to be honest.
Starting point is 00:19:04 If this is the thing that is your deal breaker in a relationship dying young I might be getting out easy. Should we keep the disses going for another few minutes or should we just call it here? Okay we're gonna call it anyway. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. What's up guys? Welcome to Agusto Papa, the go-to spot for everything Musica Mexicana. We're proud Mexican Americans who live and breathe this music. We started this podcast to share and discuss our views
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Starting point is 00:20:37 And left a woman behind to drown. There's a famous headline, I think, in the New York Daily News. It's, Teddy escapes, Blonde drowns. And in a strange way, right, that sort of tells you. The story really became about Ted's political future, Ted's political hopes. Will Ted become president?
Starting point is 00:20:54 Chappaquiddick is a story of a tragic death and how the Kennedy machine took control. And he's not the only Kennedy to survive a scandal. The Kennedys have lived through disgrace, affairs, violence, you name it. So is there a curse? Every week we go behind the headlines and beyond the drama of America's royal family.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Listen to United States of Kennedy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Man, I need to be a better host I think just in general particularly for this second day Cuz we kind of got sidetracked on air fryer burns and kind of jokes and put downs I never tried to reconnect those two back to their original feelings for each other and what they liked about each other I was just sitting back enjoying the show, eating popcorn,
Starting point is 00:21:48 not being a good host. I felt like I tried to create some middle ground, at least on the air fryer front, and there was no middle ground to reach. It wasn't gonna work. They were not. It's so weird. I mean, she just wrote him off in that moment
Starting point is 00:21:59 and would never change her mind. Yeah, I actually was kind of shocked that you don't own an air fryer, Brooke. I thought that you were one of the air fryer stands. I hate kitchen gadgets. It's like a thing for me. Brooke's like, let's just put it over an open fire in a trash can and call it a day.
Starting point is 00:22:15 If you lived in the 90s where everyone had food dehydrators, you'd realize what a dumb mistake that was. I am glad. Seriously, how many banana chips can you make? OK. What is dumb mistake? Chips can you make but if you want help from our show I promise Brooks willing to help you it might not sound like You're the one that was apologizing not me yeah, I am the bad host Brooke is the good one and hopefully she can help Reach out to us email us I mean, if Brooke's the good one, we're all doomed. Yeah. Reach out to us, email us, we'll call that person who's not calling you back.
Starting point is 00:22:49 Every case that is a cold case that has DNA right now in a backlog will be identified in our lifetime. On the new podcast, America's Crime Lab, every case has a story to tell, and the DNA holds the truth. He never thought he was going to get caught, and I just looked at my computer screen, I was just like, ah, gotcha. and the DNA holds the truth. He never thought he was going to get caught. And I just looked at my computer screen.
Starting point is 00:23:06 I was just like, ah, gotcha. This technology is already solving so many cases. Listen to America's Crime Lab on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So what happened at Chappaquiddick? Well, it really depends on who you talk to. There are many versions of what happened in 1969 when a young Ted Kennedy drove a car into a pond. And left a woman behind to drown.
Starting point is 00:23:33 Chappaquiddick is a story of a tragic death and how the Kennedy machine took control. Every week we go behind the headlines and beyond the drama of America's royal family. Listen to United States of Kennedy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jeff Perlman. And I'm Rick Jervis. We're journalists and hosts of the podcast Finding Sexy Sweat.
Starting point is 00:23:57 At an internship in 1993, we roomed with Reggie Payne, aspiring reporter and rapper who went by Sexy Sweat. A couple years ago, we set out to find him. But in 2020, Reggie fell into a coma after police pinned him down and he never woke up. But then I see my son's not moving. So we started digging and uncovered city officials bent on protecting their own. Listen to Finding Sexy Sweat on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Everyone thinks they'd never join a cult,
Starting point is 00:24:25 but it happens all the time to people just like you. And people just like us. I'm Lola Blanc. And I'm Megan Elizabeth. We're the hosts of Trust Me, a podcast about cults, manipulation, and the psychology of belief. Each week, we talk to fellow survivors, former believers, and experts to understand why people get pulled in and how they get out.
Starting point is 00:24:44 Trust Me, new episodes every Wednesday on Exactly Right. Listen wherever you get your podcasts. What would you do if one bad decision forced you to choose between a maximum security prison or the most brutal boot camp designed to be hell on earth? Unfortunately for Mark Lombardo, this was the choice he faced. He said, you are a number, a New York State number, and we own you. Listen to Shock Incarceration on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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