Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - Second Date Update: Heart Eyes for Air Fries
Episode Date: August 4, 2025One of our listeners said he did EVERY FORM of communication he possibly could leading up to his first date…. And something STILL went wrong…. See omnystudio.com/listener for privac...y information.
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Hey, it's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning and we got a brand new second date update
for you.
Thank you so much for being on the podcast.
I'm laughing only because we just spent two minutes off air trying to figure out the word
breaking point.
No, that's not it.
Deal breaker, comment broke.
Deal breaker.
Because one of our listeners' deal breakers today
is intense.
It's an intense thing, and I know
we're gonna get a ton of comments about this woman
and what she's giving up all because of one simple thing.
Oh, God.
You're gonna hear it in just a second,
but what are some of the comments you're seeing right now Alexis?
Yeah, Rosie said I've been listening since like 2013. I love you guys so much also
I love my spouse that I met on plenty of fish 15 years ago
Yeah, well we were making fun of plenty of
Yeah, but I love to know where people met if it was like a weird yeah, yeah 15 years ago
I think plenty of fish was kind of like hot, right?
Alright, was it thank you so much for being here subscribe and follow and your brand new second date update starts right now
second date update
Why do women ghost after showing very high interest early on.
Like we're talking two weeks of nonstop flirty talk
and genuine planning of your futures together.
And then suddenly one day, nope, actually nevermind.
She's completely over you
and doesn't want to talk to you anymore.
Got the ick.
Alexis, is that the reason?
Is that why someone would do that?
Before we stalked you, found something bad about you. I was thinking online
Yeah, well, it's something criminating like family information. Oh, I mean, who knows rap sheet
Yeah, I mean if it's Alexis is just a photo taken in bad light
Okay, that's one possibility
Is it also possible that maybe you built up a lofty idea
of who the guy was in your mind
and then when you actually met him and got to know him,
reality didn't even get close to your expectations?
Oh, well I don't know.
Do girls build up us guys like that?
Maybe it's the opposite.
The guy thought she liked him for two weeks
and she never did.
Yeah.
That's possible too.
We do not pick up on something.
No.
Well, one of our listeners chatted with a girl every night for almost two weeks.
Every night?
Then they met up and things just stopped.
So now he's here.
Maybe she was overwhelmed because she was so in love with you and she isn't processing it.
Oh we can lie to the listeners now.
Let's welcome them to the show though.
Hey Brad, how you doing man?
Hey guys, how's it going?
Dude, buddy, that is an investment.
Two weeks of every day,
like actually phone conversations or texts?
We did it all.
We did phone, we did text, we did FaceTimes,
we did everything.
Wow.
She'd even seen you before.
Yeah.
So you only had one meetup with this woman.
What was her name?
Her name's Megan and I know she saw what I look like on the FaceTime.
So she knows I look like my photos.
That sucks.
I want to say this, but like most of the time people are dating around.
Is it possible she was talking to somebody else?
I understand when you're first talking to somebody, you could be dating someone else
or talking to someone else, but we had such long deep conversations.
We go on for hours. It sounded like you guys connected on such a level right?
Yeah. Well listen to what she told me one night she goes I could see myself
growing old with you. Oh my gosh that's almost too much man. Well I've said that to my masseuse before is that not appropriate?
You gonna rub me when I'm wrinkly still? Yeah. I could do this till I die.
But you liked that because you were on the same page with her?
That didn't freak you out?
Yeah, that was a thing. It didn't freak me out because I kept feeling like I was falling for her before we even met up.
Oh.
Wow.
It's only weird when you're not on the same page.
Oh, man.
If you're both within two weeks like, this is great, and you're on the same page, then it is great.
But you sound like you're 100% in on her before you even met her.
Oh my god, I started telling all my friends about her, I told my sister about her.
God, you haven't met her yet.
I have like a 90 year old barber that I told him about.
That's adorable.
I mean we do.
I just know everything.
Yeah, I was just gonna say.
He's been around your whole life.
I mean I bet you were so nervous for your guys' first meetup, right? In person?
You know what? I wasn't nervous because we had such a good connection.
Okay.
I kind of felt like there's only one way to go.
Sure, but see, that goes back to what I was saying earlier about how it could be a little bit dangerous
now that you've put up these lofty expectations for how much you're gonna connect when you actually meet in person
right like with great risk comes great reward you know i agree
or great let down in this case so that's the risk part of that sentence well i guess it's gonna depend because i thought the date itself went really really well well let's go through
what did you do for the day we went to outback? Okay Staying up and lofty I like it
Yeah
The only thing I can think of that maybe was a stupid thing to say or do I don't know
Is as we're walking into the restaurant? There's this old mattress out behind it next to the dumpster
Maybe I should just bring that home because I need a new one
She actually laughed.
Yeah, but do you actually need the mattress or is that?
No, Jeff, he was kidding.
And then she saw him strapping it to the roof of his house.
That's the problem.
Okay.
But she laughed, you said.
She laughed.
Great.
That actually led into a conversation
about what kind of dream house we would get
if we ever had one.
Oh my.
Oh, that's Oh, my.
All the alley mattresses that one home could handle.
Yeah, that's not like me.
Like, I don't rush into relationships.
I just it felt right.
Oh, and you know that feeling.
It just feels like comfort, like home, you know.
It felt like we'd known each other for years already.
Wow. Like we were doing that thing, you know, where you're sitting at the table
and you make little excuses to sort of brush up against the other person
I don't think that's really what it's like to be with somebody for a long time you kind of are on each other's nerves by that
Don't touch my shoulder. Yeah, you skipped right past the honeymoon phase into 20 years of marriage
That's also good right like well the chemists. It felt amazing okay if it feels good for you. That's also good, right? Like, well, the chemistry. It felt amazing.
OK, if it feels good for you, that's awesome.
How did the night end?
Well, the kiss in my mind, I pictured it longer.
But we did kiss.
Yeah.
And I told her I wanted to see her again.
And she said, definitely.
She said, definitely.
OK.
And now she's not answering anything.
Weird.
How long has it been since the date?
It's been six days.
Six days.
Which feels like an eternity when you talked every day multiple times a day for two weeks.
Yeah.
And you built your dream house together with each other in your minds.
I mean basically, yeah.
I was going to say, and you told your 90-year-old barber.
I mean you can't go back from that.
He is going to be disappointed.
Yeah.
I know. Yeah, he's got a lot riding on this.
Alright, well we cannot give your barber bad news, so we're gonna come back, get you your second date update,
and hopefully end on a positive note coming up.
Thank you.
Right after this. Hold on.
Second date update.
No pressure, but true love is on the line today for our listener Brad because he met a girl online
They texted they called each other
Face-timed even for hours and hours on end and got to the point where they were literally planning out their future
dream home together
complete with roadside
mattresses
And it's not just him who feels that way he told us
Megan brought up I could see myself growing old with you those were her
words so clearly they were both drinking from the same vat of love juice but one
dinner date whatever one dinner date though at the outback and everything is
changed so nobody's the same say that all the time. Yeah
Nobody's the same after but especially not Brad he's trying to figure out what happened what changed cuz she is totally
Ignoring him now Brooke you're sticking with he's too sexy and emotionally mature angle. Oh, yeah She's overwhelmed. It doesn't know how to handle it and right now
She's just talking to her therapist about letting go of her old baggage and thoughts and moving forward into the future
Yes, she wants to be the perfect woman to fit your perfect man. I mean, that's what I'm hoping for anyway, okay?
Yeah, that's great. Yeah, okay. I'm sure that's what she's gonna say. Yeah, you call her right?
It has nothing to do with a dumpster mattress at all. I would hope not. I hope she knows I'm joking
With a dumpster mattress at all I would hope not I hope she knows I'm joking yeah
I have a random question you said you had a quick kiss like really quick. Did you yeah looming onions?
We ate a bunch of different stuff oh
If her breath smelled like 20 blooming onions it wouldn't have mattered I still would have given her. Oh, why is that cut? No, that's ew, you guys. That's disgusting. I thought it was cute.
Have a mint.
Oh, that is so sweet.
He would kiss her even if she had hot breath.
Gross.
What do we need?
It's really cute.
If Brooke thinks it's cute,
that's how you know you're doomed, man.
That's the red flag.
Sorry.
So let's just call her.
Hopefully it's not the breath thing, but.
Brooke and her husband just eating raw onions.
Like, oh, honey.
Gross.
Hey, if you do it together, it doesn't matter't matter okay let's eject from this as quickly as possible
I'm down here right now
hello hey is this Megan yeah this calm down Brooke this is a radio show that you're on right now.
It's called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.
Thanks for being here.
Hi, good morning!
We are so happy you answered the phone.
Yes.
What is this?
This is a segment that we do, a dating segment called Second Date Update.
Where we try to help out listeners who've gone out with someone and afterwards they're not getting a call back or no chance for a
second meetup we try to help them figure out why I know you're probably
expecting some prizes or whatever but I think this is even cooler than a prize
yeah like could be a chance that I don't know a relationship for love depends on
the prize
So this is a guy a listener of ours that you went out with named Brad oh
Wow, okay, yeah, yeah
I don't even want to talk about this I mean
I mean it sounds like you two are so invested in each other.
We've heard a lot from Brad about you, and he said that it's been six days since your date.
But it's kind of felt like a lifetime to him, because I mean, that's how strong the connection was. We've heard a lot of people going on normal dates before on the show.
But the way he described your connection and your kind of journey together,
he put a lot of hope into this and he's felt kind of devastated that you've stepped back.
Yeah, I was pretty devastated too.
Okay.
That's not good.
Can we ask like what caused that change in feeling towards him?
Yeah, I mean, we were talking about the future and everything was good.
And then we met up and it started off right it was fun
And it's sweet and then he said something that was just so off-putting
He doesn't like pudding
Like immediately you had a reaction as soon as he said this I mean at first I thought it was a joke, and then I realized he was serious.
What?
Oh, God, it's not about the street mattress thing, is it?
He wants to design a dream home or in a stained mattress?
Yeah.
No, it was when we were eating.
We had a lot of stuff to eat, and I said that I make the best blooming onion in my air fryer.
And he laughed at me.
He laughed at you? He laughed at you?
He laughed at me and he said that air fryers are a scam.
What?
I mean they are just convection ovens, but right?
What does that mean?
Oh, he said it's just a loud toaster.
Oh, that's kind of funny.
I mean, it's like the George Foreman grill of today.
Like everybody's buying them, everybody's got to have them. But she said he wasn't joking that he was serious. He was serious
He was that passionate about air fryer
Yeah, well, maybe I was passionate about it and he wasn't but he said he just didn't believe in them and
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard
So his comment about air fryers being a scam for you, that
completely shifted how you saw him? Yeah, in that moment I was like, nope, I don't
see my future husband. Okay. Not the trash mattress. We were joking about that. He was dead serious about this.
Wow. That is such a hard take. That is weird. He seems like, huh. That's where she draws the line, like you can come after whatever else, but don't cross me and my air fryer.
No, I actually met him.
Oh.
Saying that air fryers were a belief system.
Oh, interesting.
Yeah.
That is weird.
You never discussed it with him and told him how it made you feel?
I mean, he was so serious. He was just digging in. I just sat back and crossed him off my list
oh well I can still sense a little bit of pent-up frustration that you have
towards Brad even thinking about it and if you wanted to unload on him just
saying now's your chance because he's on the other line right now waiting to
talk to you are you serious I don't want to talk about this anymore
I'm sure he wants to say something about it
Brad are you there? Hey Megan, I had no idea you were so bothered by those comments
Well, I mean you were so serious, I mean, what are you gonna stick fries in the microwave?
I mean you have an oven you can put things in the oven. You're sounding like a lunatic right now Brad
oven. You can put things in the oven. You're sounding like a lunatic right now, Brad.
Rise in an oven. You're crazy, Brad. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what to say because I mean, our connection I thought was so strong and I can't imagine that something as
simple as my feelings about an air fryer have changed your optimism about where a relationship
could go. Yeah. I mean, I use it every single day.
My friend use it every single day.
I mean, it's like the best invention.
I mean, this guy like,
he doesn't understand how great it is.
What's wrong with him?
Okay.
Maybe that's like an invitation to teach him,
bring him to the air fryer side.
Make him a PB and J and an air fryer.
But Brad, do you see how like you've clearly touched a nerve for her? It's not like you've just made a funny
joke about air fryers. You've attacked her life. I'm just so shocked guys. I thought
you were in the hospital because things were going so well. You almost put me in the hospital
with your comments about that. Oh wow. That is so dramatic. I mean, it doesn't even sound like Brad really cares about air fryers that much, right Brad?
I don't believe in them, but who cares?
Like I'm not going to let it get in the middle of a potential great relationship.
Clearly it's an important touching point for Megan that you value it because that's how
she eats all of her meals.
She wants to cook meals with you in the air fryer.
I mean, if you don't believe in air fryers, what's next seasonal candles fitted sheets marinating things overnight?
You do not believe in fitted sheets bread
Okay, I think we're putting a little too much emphasis on one kitchen appliance, I mean go buy an easy bake oven. I don't care
You guys are laughing at me, but it's it's a deal-breaker
You can use your air fryer. He doesn't care if you use an air fryer
I mean like but he also is like I don't believe in them at the same time
Well, he hasn't had her bloom an onion, you know, he may change his mind
You think you're getting invited over to try any of my food?
You'll never taste her bloom an onion there Brad
Well, we went from the most romantic story of all time to air fryers burning down a relationship.
Yeah.
It was pretty simple.
Yeah, and quick too.
Under 15 minutes.
They're so efficient.
I can't believe I actually imagined myself growing old with you.
You're clearly going to die young from the way you're eating.
Oh, wow.
That was dark.
I mean, I got to be honest.
If this is the thing that is your deal
breaker in a relationship dying young I might be getting out easy. Should we keep
the disses going for another few minutes or should we just call it here? Okay we're
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Well, it really depends on who you talk to.
There are many versions of what happened in 1969
when a young Ted Kennedy drove a car into a pond.
And left a woman behind to drown.
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Man, I need to be a better host I think just in general particularly for this second day
Cuz we kind of got sidetracked on air fryer burns and kind of jokes and put downs
I never tried to reconnect those two back to their original feelings for each other and what they liked about each other
I was just sitting back enjoying the show, eating popcorn,
not being a good host.
I felt like I tried to create some middle ground,
at least on the air fryer front,
and there was no middle ground to reach.
It wasn't gonna work.
They were not.
It's so weird.
I mean, she just wrote him off in that moment
and would never change her mind.
Yeah, I actually was kind of shocked
that you don't own an air fryer, Brooke.
I thought that you were one of the air fryer stands.
I hate kitchen gadgets.
It's like a thing for me.
Brooke's like, let's just put it over an open fire
in a trash can and call it a day.
If you lived in the 90s where everyone had
food dehydrators, you'd realize what a dumb mistake that was.
I am glad.
Seriously, how many banana chips can you make? OK. What is dumb mistake?
Chips can you make but if you want help from our show I promise Brooks willing to help you it might not sound like
You're the one that was apologizing not me yeah, I am the bad host Brooke is the good one and hopefully she can help Reach out to us email us I mean, if Brooke's the good one, we're all doomed. Yeah.
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So what happened at Chappaquiddick?
Well, it really depends on who you talk to.
There are many versions of what happened in 1969 when a young Ted Kennedy drove a car into a pond.
And left a woman behind to drown.
Chappaquiddick is a story of a tragic death and how the Kennedy machine took control.
Every week we go behind the headlines and beyond the drama of America's royal family.
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We're journalists and hosts of the podcast
Finding Sexy Sweat.
At an internship in 1993, we roomed with Reggie Payne,
aspiring reporter and rapper who went by Sexy Sweat.
A couple years ago, we set out to find him.
But in 2020, Reggie fell into a coma after police pinned him down and he never woke up.
But then I see my son's not moving.
So we started digging and uncovered city officials bent on protecting their own.
Listen to Finding Sexy Sweat on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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but it happens all the time to people just like you.
And people just like us. I'm Lola Blanc.
And I'm Megan Elizabeth.
We're the hosts of Trust Me, a podcast about cults,
manipulation, and the psychology of belief.
Each week, we talk to fellow survivors,
former believers, and experts to understand
why people get pulled in and how they get out.
Trust Me, new episodes every Wednesday on Exactly Right. Listen wherever you get your podcasts.
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Unfortunately for Mark Lombardo, this was the choice he faced.
He said, you are a number,
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