Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - Second Date Update: High Value Man
Episode Date: October 11, 2024The listener on the phone today says she only dates “HVM’s.” What exactly IS an HVM? Find out in a Second Date podcast!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....
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Second date update.
The way that trends go, it's interesting because I'd say lately with the calls that we've been
getting for second dates, people seem to expect way more than they used to just a couple years
ago.
You mean from like a relationship or from a first date?
From a first date.
We keep seeing people stay single waiting to find the right match
because the options just aren't good enough.
Okay, like it wasn't magic the first time you met someone.
They want to be impressed right away or they're not even going to waste their time.
Okay.
And that's why our listener today, Ina, says she only goes out with high-value men.
What does that mean?
We'll find out in a second.
Ina, welcome to the show.
Actually, my name is Ina.
Oh, it's Ina.
Oh, I'm sorry, Ina.
Ina, my bad.
Yeah, it's okay.
High value, I mean, the first thing I think that comes to everybody's mind is just like a dollar symbol.
Is that what you mean?
Important people.
I mean, like, not necessarily all about money, but I want to go with a guy that knows how to treat a woman.
Yeah, and knows how to pronounce your name properly in the first five minutes.
Like, if this was a first date, you already would have asked for the check.
That's a good point.
You better have asked for the check.
Because, yes, because I'm high value,
and I would never let Ina pay for it herself.
You're okay, too, Jeff.
Right.
We're all learning lessons here,
but let's learn more about the guy that you went out with.
What's his name?
So his name's Corey.
Okay.
What was high value about Corey from his, I'm guessing, dating profile?
Yeah, so I met him online, and I thought we connected.
Nice.
And he looked the part, totally.
Like, nice outfit, like his car.
Was he like wearing a suit?
This is a little bit superficial.
I know.
I'm starting to think high value is less about how they're treating you
and more about how much money they have.
I can see how you think that, but like he also had pictures of him traveling.
You know what I mean?
Okay.
His lifestyle.
Okay.
Okay.
Lifestyle.
But I think money is needed for lifestyle.
No, but I know.
There's guys that post them like drinking with their friends in a basement still on their profiles.
She's not looking for that.
She's looking for someone who has interest.
Yeah, he also does skiing and golf, so he's super active like that.
Okay.
A lot of hobbies.
Those are very rich hobbies, but yeah.
But whatever.
We're not going to money shame him.
He caught your eye, and that's what's the most important.
So did you end up going out with him in person?
Yeah, so we went out for drinks first,
and I told him if drinks went well, we could go on to dinner.
But if not, we can just be friends and just bear.
Wait, you told him that?
What did he say to you?
Honestly, he was fine with it.
Yeah.
Maybe he was the same.
Okay.
I mean, that's a good point, Alexis.
Like, maybe he didn't want to waste the time and money.
Why sit through dinner?
Have you ever gone out with a guy and after the first, like, 30 minutes of drinks, you gave them a no?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, really?
It sounds like it's happened more than once.
But you don't feel guilty about turning these guys away?
No.
Why would I?
Honestly, that is a great attitude to have
and one that I do not have.
I would probably end up sitting there for three hours.
I'm a total pleaser.
What happened in the first 30 minutes of drinks
with Corey? So basically we went
to Speakeasy,
you know, like a really upscale, fancy
cocktail bar.
Yeah, where the cocktails are always like $32.
They're called high-value cocktails.
You can't find the door, but we'll
charge you more. Yeah, but the ice gives a
circle, so it's worth it.
That sounds kind of nice. Yeah, so we had
like drinks, and after 30 minutes,
like, I gave him a thumbs up saying,
let's go to dinner, you know, because it was going well.
Alright, he passed the first test.
Yeah, I mean, I felt like he liked me,
so we went to a French restaurant for dinner after that. You passed the first test. Yeah, I mean, I felt like he liked me, so we went to a French restaurant
for dinner after that.
You guys are very fancy.
What were you connecting over?
Honestly, just like
how fancy everything was.
Oh, that's what you connected over?
That's what you talked about?
You're bonding.
Okay, what about
connecting with Corey himself
as a person? Yeah, yeah, that's where I'm at, Jeff. What about connecting with Corey himself as a person?
Yeah, that's where I'm at, Jeff.
I mean, he was a good photographer.
I gave him my phone,
took some pictures of me
for social media with the food.
Oh, yeah.
I will admit, I'm a terrible photographer, so Corey
has one up on me.
He was cool taking photos of you?
What was his reaction when you asked him?
No, he was cool
because it was
a really cool place
and, like, the lighting
was perfect.
Amazing.
Okay.
Okay, can I ask you,
did we go on a date
because I'm Mr.
Take a picture of the food,
use me for my money,
let's do all this,
and I don't know,
I just feel like
I don't remember.
Are you hitting on her?
I can't tell.
No, no, I feel like
this is not an issue at all.
I feel like this is a great date for you.
You're Jose's perfect woman so far.
Yeah, let's take food.
So Jose's already calling dibs in case things go south with Corey.
But let's focus with Corey.
This is probably rude to ask here, Ina, but I just want like a ballpark idea.
Like how much at this point in the night do you think the date has cost so far? Well, I mean, I didn't pay for it, but, like, I'm assuming dinner plus, like, the drinks was upwards of maybe $300 or $400.
Oh, wow.
So, Jeff, are you theorizing that he just can't afford to take her on a second date and that's why he hasn't called?
No, he can't afford it in maybe two years when he saves up for the next one.
And then he has to ghost her again.
Oh, man. Oh, man. in maybe two years when he saves up for the next one. And then he has to ghost her again. Yeah.
Oh, man.
Oh, man.
I'm looking for a high-value man,
so if he can't keep up, I'd like to know today.
That's the answer.
All right.
All right.
We'll get to the bottom of it.
We're direct.
That's good.
How did the fancy date end?
So at the end, he walked me to my car.
I told him I had a nice time,
and I don't kiss on the first date.
A lady does not do that.
I'm sorry.
Okay. So wait. Wait a minute. Did he go for the kiss and you told him that or how did that come up?
He was lingering, but I told him that's my rule. I'm a high value woman and she needs to know that
that's a value of mine. I feel like that message came across pretty clearly throughout the entire
night. We all value you already. All of us.
Now, what's happened since that date happened?
How long has it been?
Have you stayed in contact?
He hasn't answered me.
He's ghosted me completely.
Has that happened to you before?
Not really.
This is why she's calling back.
You know what?
You're lucky, Ina, that you reached out to a high-value radio show. Yeah.
Did she contact someone before us?
Probably.
Sorry you had to settle for our show afterwards.
We're going to do our best for you.
We're going to come back.
We'll call Corey and try and get you a second date update right after this.
Okay, thank you.
Hold on.
Second date update.
You know what I love about this show?
What?
I learn new things every single day.
Really?
You mean like about how people live and date?
Totally.
Like in part one of the second date, I learned a high-value man doesn't necessarily mean he has a lot of money.
It just means he has fancy clothes, expensive hobbies, travels the world regularly, and drops upwards of $400 on a first date.
That's right, Jeff.
And he can hitchhike all that stuff.
That is not superficial.
No.
He might as well be a starving artist for all the subtle value that he was showing to Ina on the date.
Yeah, I bet he flies first class to all his auditions.
We're joking, Ina.
That's what we learned about Corey, and now we're going to learn why he's not calling Ina back.
Ina, how you doing? Are you comfortable
over there? Can we get you anything? A
Perrier with lime, perhaps?
Brooke, cut the limes. Sparkling or flat?
We have that in here? If you're offering.
Okay, Brooke.
Of course, only Jeff would be able to drop out
Perrier.
Brooke's going to put the order in on Amazon, so
that should arrive at your house soon. Also, sorry
to be basic with the limes. We should have done cucumbers
or something fancier. I mean,
okay, but you better.
We're trying to learn how to be high
value. I don't know yet. I gave up
on that a long time ago, but
I like you, Ina. At least you know what
you want. You're going after it.
Let's hope that Corey feels the same
way and it's just a misunderstanding. I'm going to call him right now here we go hello hey we're looking for cory
yeah this is cory who's calling oh uh we are a morning radio show called Brooke and Jeffrey. Hey, Corey.
Hey.
Did you say all?
Like you're let down?
Yeah.
I don't know if I'm the guy you want on the radio, guys.
Well, no.
Are you offensive?
Get the beat button ready.
This guy's wild.
We got a specific request from somebody to reach out to you because you went on a date with this person the other night they had a really good time with you her name's aina oh okay um yeah i know i know
did you just you did uh you made the same exact sound that you did when we told you we're a radio
show why did you hug us i i don't get calls from radio stations every day.
I got stuff to do.
I mean, I'm sure you guys are all cool.
No, what I meant was, why did you make that sound when we mentioned her?
Yeah.
I don't know.
I'm just, like, a little bit confused.
Yeah, that's understandable.
About her?
You're getting a random call.
Well, what if I told you that she really, really wants to see you again and go on another date with you?
Yeah.
Yeah, she doesn't want to go out with me again. What if I told you that she really, really wants to see you again and go on another date with you? Yeah. Yeah.
She doesn't want to go out with me again.
It feels like... No.
This is so weird.
It feels like you even started the call.
Like, you don't want me on the radio.
She doesn't want me.
People want you.
Yeah, I'm telling you.
Help us understand what you're feeling right now.
Why do you say she doesn't want to go out with you?
Because she told us about the date, and her review of it was pretty glowing all right that's nice to hear but uh you don't seem
honored real talk i mean aina is is is hot i mean but yeah we know yeah yeah i mean did we know we
know we know you can listen to her voice you can can tell. Oh, my God. You guys are so weird. Okay, what about her being hot?
She's hot, but I could tell that she was, like, not only going to cost me money, like, big money,
but I would probably spend the rest of my time with her being, like, her personal Instagram photographer.
Oh.
She told us that you took a really good picture
of her. Welcome to being in a relationship
with a woman, dude.
That's what you're signing up for.
I never let my husband take pictures.
He's horrible at it, and he does it for a profession.
He takes the worst pictures.
He does.
He's so tall, and it's always
pictures. I like how you took that opportunity
to put your husband down for even trying to do something nice.
He's bad at it.
It's not a personality flaw.
It's just the truth.
Okay, anyway, what do you feel?
You feel like she was just using you for your camera skills?
Yeah, I mean, it's like she's this influencer or something.
I mean, I was taking pictures of her by the statue and her by the fountain and her by the window
and her with her dinner.
I mean, it was all just like
too much.
So, how many pictures do you think you
took in one evening?
I don't know. A dozen.
She told us the only
reason that she wanted so many pictures was because
the place that you chose was so cool
and she wanted to document it. She didn't say that she took that many well we didn't know that he
was a good photo yeah i mean if you would have been bad at it the first time you wouldn't ever
had to take one again yeah maybe it's on you cory okay i mean maybe i mean the place was cool the
drink place was cool the speakeasy was cool the The French restaurant was cool. Everything was cool, but it was a lot of money,
and I felt this night is going the way it's going,
so I needed to even it out.
What does that mean?
Even it out?
Like you had her take photos of you all over the restaurant too?
No, not really, man.
I saw how deep I was getting into this date,
and so when she left me her phone to take like more pictures for some
reason, while she went away to the ladies room,
I opened her Venmo and took what I thought was a fair cut of the bill.
And I stole money from her.
I've heard of girls doing this, not the dudes.
Oh, wow.
Evening it out. I wasn't stealing anything. this, not the dude's. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I thought I was evening it out.
I wasn't feeling any of it.
I was evening out the night.
Corey, I don't know if you hear that other voice.
Oh, my gosh.
Ina's on the other line right now listening to this.
Oh, come on.
Oh.
Are you kidding me right now?
Like, are you for real?
Are you for real?
Why am I talking to you?
You're defending it?
Yeah, I'm defending it.
It's not like she was going to split the bill or anything.
I mean, it was just this.
It turned from a date into a job.
I admit, though, it's a high-value job.
Yeah.
One that she respects a lot.
Yeah, I didn't apply for this job.
I mean, it just sort of got sprung on me.
Didn't you know what you were getting into with Ina?
I mean, she seems like what you see is what you get with her.
Am I right, Ina?
Like, you sound like you were clear on what your expectations were.
Yes, I was. And honestly, like, there are a lot of guys that want to go out with me.
Exactly.
What does that have to do with him stealing money?
Nobody asked.
You need to meet a guy that wants to take pictures, that wants to spend
money on you. We thought you were upset about the
account thing.
She didn't even notice.
You heard that, right, Ina?
Yeah, I heard it. I just opened my Venmo
and I saw it right now.
How much did he
Venmo to himself? Oh my god,
he took $150 from me?
$150?
That's a pretty penny.
I mean, private photo shoot costs, it's kind of.
That's actually a good deal.
It's a little bit of a bargain.
I just can't believe you don't feel guilty at all, Corey.
Do you have a problem with that?
I don't.
Why not cut it off?
Like, even it out, like I said.
I mean, if we ended up going out on another date,
it would have been an even more expensive place.
Okay, if you're such a big guy,
why didn't you just man up and ask her
to split the bill with you?
I mean, that is the right thing to do.
Fine, Ina, if we were in that situation
and I asked for half the bill,
would you have given it to me?
No.
There we go.
Take that, Brooke.
Such a high-value answer.
He knows what he's worth, too.
In the end, these two high-value people end up sounding pretty cheap.
Seriously.
Look, this is what happens.
You go for a high-value man, and what does he do?
He increases his value even more by taking the money right out of your Venmo.
And stands up for himself.
That is wise.
And I would be remiss if I didn't offer to send you guys out on another date.
You're undoing everything if you ask them to go out again.
Yeah, because we'll pay for it this time.
Yeah, this time we're going to cover the bill.
What do you think?
Corey, you're the one I'm supposed to ask.
You want to go out with Ina one more time?
If she wants to show me who she really is and not spend the whole night freaking taking pictures and all that, sure.
Okay.
I get it.
She's really hot, so it's a yes.
He still hasn't said no.
Did he say yes, really?
He just said yes.
It sounded like it to me.
Ina, are you up for it?
It's insane.
Well, he stole money from me, but it sounds like he's sorry about it.
Oh, my God.
What?
At this point, I feel like you two deserve each other.
Oh, my.
They're just going to steal from each other.
Is this actually happening?
I mean, I'll do drinks again, and if that goes well,
then we can see about moving the day forward.
Location two, Firefest Island.
Hey, I don't have the cash for Firefest Island, but I'll take your gift card.
We'll do Bahama Breeze instead.
Successful second date update.
Perrier's with limes for everybody.
As long as you're paying, Jeff.
I got it.
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
How much you guys want to bet that she's going to hand over her phone again
and completely forget that he Venmo'd himself on the second date?
Yeah, totally.
I feel like it's just going to be this cycle where she takes all the money, then he takes all the money.
Yeah.
It's going to be a cycle.
He spends it and he gets it back.
He's going to be constantly trying to look at her phone like any type of cute purple lighting shows up anywhere.
It's like, hey, come over here.
Like, we should take a picture of you.
Yeah, let me give a picture of you.
The whole thing, they really do honestly feel made for each other.
In a way.
I'm really hoping that they make it for an update update,
just to hear how much money has exchanged hands back and forth.
I know, I was going to say,
he's hoping that his bank account makes it for an update update, I think.
So in a way, kind of cute.
Yeah, sure.
You could be the next cute couple that we put together on this show.
Yeah, deep.
Next deep cute couple.
That's right.
All you got to do is email the show.
We'll call that person who isn't calling you back.
We have all of our second date updates ready for you to listen to on our podcast,
wherever you get yours, at Brooke and Jeffrey.
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