Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - Second Date Update: Last Chance Date

Episode Date: August 19, 2024

What if after the BEST date of your life, that same person completely ghosts you? One of our listeners just said that happened to him with no explanation, so he's come to us to get answers in a Second... Date!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:28 it's like the last chopper out of vietnam oh no where a couple years ago it was actually working you could find quality matches on there that weren't russian bots but now it's like wading through the wet trash compactor that lu Skywalker got dumped into on the Death Star. There are so many analogies here that I don't quite understand. You get it's bad, Brooke. It's a gloomy, dark scene on the dating apps right now. And one of our listeners says that he is just about done with it. If we can't reconnect him with the woman that he went out with last week, he might
Starting point is 00:03:06 be done completely. It's the straw that's going to break the camel's back. I'm trying to add another like some sort of analogy. Everybody says that every week. It'd be nice to have one from like this century, but that's okay. I'm talking about Vietnam. So his name is Thomas. Thomas, welcome to the show. Hey guys, thanks
Starting point is 00:03:22 for having me. Thomas, I know that your email was very down on yourself, but maybe you were just like super emotional. You don't actually mean that you're ready to give up on the apps entirely. Are you? I've been on these dating apps now for about two years and I mean, I'm just
Starting point is 00:03:37 losing hope. It's just gotten worse and worse and worse and worse. I'm glad you're such a ray of positivity. Listen, I started out in it with plenty of hope, but I'm losing it now because, I mean, I don't feel like I'm asking for much. Like, I just want somebody that I get along with, that I share things with. Okay. I think it's interesting.
Starting point is 00:03:57 Whoa, whoa, slow down with your long list of demands for the perfect woman. I mean, I feel like I've been doing things right and I've had good conversations with women. You know, we've had some things in common. There seems to be a spark in that I don't hear back from them or they don't even show up.
Starting point is 00:04:11 Okay, but wait, did this woman show up for you? You said you went on a date. This woman did. This woman did. Her name is Diane. Diane. I put so much into this date.
Starting point is 00:04:21 Can I ask right off the bat, did you complain about the scene, the dating scene, the entire time with Diane? I'm just going to cut to the chase here. No. No, I did not. We honestly, we had a wonderful date. We went to this Mediterranean
Starting point is 00:04:38 restaurant. Okay. She had a beautiful smile. There was great eye contact. She wasn't on her phone the whole time. She's actually listening and interacting. And I'm assuming you're going in with zero expectations since you don't have much faith in the process at this point. I was ready to just eat alone. And she showed up already surpassed expectations.
Starting point is 00:04:57 I like that mentality. If you go in thinking like it's going to be terrible, then it's going to be great no matter what, as long as they show up. He's going to start sitting down and he's going to look. I'll just order right now. She's's going to be terrible then it's going to be great no matter what as long as they show up he's gonna start sitting down and he's going to look i'll just order right now she's not going to show up let me get that and then she goes oh you're halfway in the meal best date ever oh my god that's awesome okay yeah i'm glad i only ordered like one cocktail before she got there okay and what was it like when you first saw her? I mean, like I said, she had a beautiful smile, really, like, focused on me on the date, which was nice.
Starting point is 00:05:30 And she loves horror movies like I do. And, like, I expected us to be there for, like, an hour. But we were there. We talked for over four hours at the restaurant. What? What? At the restaurant the entire time? Yeah. Oh, my God. The waiter was just At the restaurant the entire time? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:45 Oh my God, the waiter was just so annoyed with you. Yeah, the waiter's like, ooh. Were you ordering more drinks in between that time?
Starting point is 00:05:52 I'm just thinking from the waiter's perspective that we really hate you. There were a couple, but we had a good long talk. I mean, we ended up closing the restaurant down. Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 00:06:00 I mean, I could understand just on that experience alone why you'd be so mystified why this woman isn't calling you back. Yeah. Well, especially because we agreed on another date. When you say you agreed on another date, did you guys like set a day and a time? We had agreed to go out afterwards. We were going to meet at the same restaurant next week.
Starting point is 00:06:19 Oh. Like the following week. Oh, interesting. Why would you do the same one? I mean, if the vibes are so good at that one place, we'll just keep it going. Okay, that's good. Yeah, I think we just had such a great time. We wanted to keep the ball rolling.
Starting point is 00:06:33 That's good. And that could be your place someday. Like, oh, this is our first two dates. So you took the chopper out of Nam and then decided to fly right back into it. Okay. How did your second tour go? Well, that's the thing. She never showed up.
Starting point is 00:06:47 She ditched? Wait, on the second time she didn't show up? She never showed up. I was there for over half an hour. I texted her, no response. And had you guys texted in the week between? Like, oh, can't wait to see you. Yeah, I'd had a couple of texts back and forth with her.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Oof. Maybe that's the problem. I don't know. The confirming of the second date. You know, you always have to confirm plans at least three times before they actually happen. Or is it better to leave a little mystery? No, it's not. Are we on for tonight?
Starting point is 00:07:20 Are we? Are we? I guess you'll have to show up and find out. Yeah, I didn't know the magic rule was three, but duly noted, I guess, for the future. But she just wasn't there, and then she hasn't responded to any of my calls or texts. Oh, that's cold, dude.
Starting point is 00:07:33 Yikes, dude. I'm sorry. Now you guys know why I want to get off of these apps. Because, again, we spent four hours talking, and then a no-show on the second date. Being stood up is bad. It's next level. You've never been stood up before. I can imagine.
Starting point is 00:07:52 So funny. I've heard it. The image is sad in my head. We're going to try and make a happier image come out of all of this. We're going to come back. We're going to call Diane for you and try and get you your second date update. Get you out of NOM once and for all.
Starting point is 00:08:10 Okay. We can really stop with that. No, we're going to drive this one home. Oh, God. We're going to do it right after this. Hold on. Second date update. Imagine four hours of nonstop laughter and sharing stories and dreams.
Starting point is 00:08:28 Two desserts, one spoon. That sounds lovely, Jeffrey. I don't know if that really happened. Oh, my God. If there was only one spoon, I'm sorry, I'd be out. Unless you're giving me the spoon. I'm just picturing in my mind the best date ever, because that's what Thomas described to us earlier
Starting point is 00:08:44 when he met up at a restaurant with Diane. Maybe it was three desserts, no spoon. I think you usually do one dessert and two spoons, Jeff. No, the more spoons, the worse it's going. Yeah, yeah, no spoon, hands behind the back, cussing. Lady in the tramping, a mud pie off of each other's fingers. That is the best date night ever. That visual will haunt me.
Starting point is 00:09:04 I honestly don't know. All I do know is that Thomas is about to give up on the dating apps if this doesn't work out for him. And we're not going to let that happen, right, Brooke? That's right. We got you, Thomas. Man, I appreciate y'all. Yeah. Thomas,
Starting point is 00:09:20 you haven't heard from her at all after she stood you up? Nothing. Complete radio silence. So are you mad going into this? I mean, a little bit, but to be honest, I'm more. I'm just exhausted, and I just kind of want to know why. Yeah. It doesn't make sense to me is all. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:39 All right. You're defeated. Yeah. Yeah. I don't like that. Sorry to bring the energy down. Yeah. Why are you don't like that. Sorry to bring the energy down. Yeah. Why are you putting it like that?
Starting point is 00:09:48 I'm hopeful. Brooke, you said that's right like one minute ago. I know. Well, I'm hopeful for you, too. We're going to hold you up, okay? We're going to reinflate you. Okay. Because it's deflated.
Starting point is 00:09:57 Inflation? I don't know. I don't know what Brooke's trying to do. We're going to prop you up and make this happen. All right. If you'd like to hire Brooke to give a pep talk to your company, make sure you go to BrookeandJeffrey.com. Or Sports Team.
Starting point is 00:10:07 Yeah, sure. I'm also available for... You know what we got to do? We got to lift her. Let's inflate stuff. Yeah. All right. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Hello? Hey, is this Diane? Yes, this is her. We got her. Okay. Diane, what's up? You're on the radio right now with Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:10:37 Hey, Diane. Most people cheer when we say that, but that's okay. Actually, yeah, not one person has ever done that. Don't feel any pressure. We're excited to talk to you, though. Yeah, we're glad you answered. I'm like in the middle of something. I don't know what's going on. Oh, okay. We're in the middle of something, too. It's called
Starting point is 00:10:55 a second date update, and I think our thing's probably more important. Don't do that. We have a listener who went on a date with you recently and hasn't really been able to meet up a second time. It's really bumming him out. And he just doesn't know why. His name's Thomas.
Starting point is 00:11:14 Oh, okay. Okay. You know Thomas. Yeah, I know Thomas. Yeah. We figured because you guys spent quite a while together the other night at a restaurant, having what sounded like a really nice time. Yeah, he told us that you really connected.
Starting point is 00:11:33 I mean, most people don't close down a restaurant when they're having a bad time with each other. Yeah, seriously. Yeah, we had a good date the other night. So you admit it, ha! Wait, what? Got her, Jeff! What? I mean, if you had a good date, then why didn't you show up the second time?
Starting point is 00:11:51 We're all confused, and Thomas is especially confused. Because apparently you were supposed to meet up again the following week at the same exact restaurant, and you ghosted. You didn't even show. First of all, I did not ghost him. What? He was there, and you were again. yeah he showed up and he says he weren't there yeah no i went to the restaurant i got there early and i left before i got there but i did not ghost him you left before he got there yeah we can't have a date at two different times there last week. I was really looking forward to our date and I actually got there
Starting point is 00:12:27 15 minutes early. When I got there, the host when I got there was paying really a lot of attention to me. Like in a way that made you uncomfortable the way you said that? Yeah, it was like they were familiar with me. Well, you closed down
Starting point is 00:12:43 the place the week before. Maybe they know you. They probably have been complaining about you all week. We heard you took the table for four hours. Get put in a corner. Actually, it was kind of the opposite. They put me at the nicest table you could possibly be at in the restaurant. Oh. Like a beautiful view of the city.
Starting point is 00:13:04 Oh. Wow. Why is this an issue did you know somebody that sounds really nice yeah well there were like rose petals all over the table um my favorite drink i told him i was a gin and tonic and he had it like it was there waiting that's so cute he set it up for you oh my gosh what part of this is bad in your mind i well it just was it was a lot for a second date it's just a gin and tonic and a couple of rose petals wait is that bad that's like an anniversary thing exactly he was excited it's not an anniversary though it's a second date and it
Starting point is 00:13:46 honestly felt like a proposal that much girl you need to set your sights higher if you think that's a proposal well hold on let's just hear her out a little bit so that all those nice gestures made you feel uncomfortable like i just couldn't figure out it was just like what does he want from me like it just was so it was so much isn't that awful that that's your first thought like that sucks i mean honestly like what if all he wanted was to show you that he liked you he should have stuck with the gin and i mean that's great and all but i just from my experience no man actually acts like that it's like a cartoon version of what a man you know i could definitely see both sides of the argument where maybe he was trying to be nice maybe it was a little bit too much
Starting point is 00:14:28 too fast but to just leave him that part was a little rough but the good news is we can make everything better with a simple action and that's by putting Thomas on the phone with you right now because he's actually on the other line waiting to talk to you
Starting point is 00:14:44 oh no don't think of this as another grand romantic gesture this is just a quote Thomas on the phone with you right now because he's actually on the other line waiting to talk to you. Oh, no. Don't think of this as another grand romantic gesture. This is just a casual phone convo. Yeah, yeah. We can insult you if you want. In fact, pretend like we're not here and say hi to each other. Thomas? Yeah. Hi.
Starting point is 00:14:59 I thought I was being very sweet and considerate and I was trying to show you I was also listening and paying attention to you. And I didn't realize it is, you know, very sweet. I just like you. I think I mean, it just was a lot. We haven't even discussed what we wanted in our future or anything like that. So it was just the most grand gestures for just like meeting up again and wanting to get to know each other.
Starting point is 00:15:27 But like you didn't even stick around to even tell Thomas that it was too much. I bet, Thomas, you would have removed those rose petals as quickly as you could had you known, right? Yeah, the only reason I put them there in the first place was because I thought she would like it, not terrify her into disappearing off the face of the planet.
Starting point is 00:15:45 Wasn't like, let's scare her a little bit. You guys got any rose petals around here? Remember, she liked horror movies. You told us that. This is kind of like one. You should have left something scary. I should have wrote, I'm watching you on the car. It's actually rom-coms that terrify her.
Starting point is 00:16:03 I mean, just from hearing from him, Diane, I think his intentions were very pure, very kind and thoughtful and nice, not trying to overwhelm you with love. It just got lost in translation, really. Yeah. Yeah, I guess I panicked and I just ran. This conversation is going better.
Starting point is 00:16:22 Thomas, do you still want us to play the romantic violin music? Or do you want us to ask the question? I thought it was the quartet that you had set up. You know what? We're going to skip all of that and just go right to the question, which is, Diane, would you like to go out on another date with Thomas that we would pay for? And before she answers, Thomas, is there anything else that you just want to say to her to try and convince her to go out with you one more time now's your chance i don't appreciate being ghosted like that but i did enjoy our date and i would like to do another are you guys really playing i didn't play anything that was just natural that was the universe
Starting point is 00:17:00 keep going thomas no no i would love to go on a second date with you and i will slow things down putting music into the conversation. That's it. I don't know what you're talking about. Keep going, Thomas. No, no. I would love to go on a second date with you and I will slow things down. Oh my God. That's so funny. That is so sweet, Dan. Let them talk off air. What do you think, Dan? One more date? I mean, yeah, I would love to go on another date.
Starting point is 00:17:22 It was just a lot. Now that I know you were coming from a good place, like it's, you know, that's a little different. I just, I'm sorry. I panicked. Thomas, how are you feeling? Are you happy? Yeah, I feel better at least getting a hold of her.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Yeah. We need to sound happier than that to match the music. Yeah, this is the perfect ending. He lived happily ever after. Congratulations, Thomas. You got your second date. Awesome. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Starting point is 00:17:54 All right, I did not want to say this while we were on the phone and possibly ruin the good vibes and the good moment that was happening. Jeffrey, maybe you shouldn't say it now then. No, I'm just saying it sounds like Thomas is going to finally quit the dating apps. Oh, because he's going to be in a relationship? Yeah, not because he's given up on love because he actually found someone for the long haul. At least, hopefully he has. He's going to give up regardless.
Starting point is 00:18:15 I think he's going to freak her out even more on date three or four. I don't know. I don't know if they seem like, I really want this to work. I just don't know if they're the best match. I think the more they communicate, the better. That's true. They spent four hours together. They didn't communicate enough already?
Starting point is 00:18:30 Dial back the communication in some areas and up in other areas. Hopefully, we do an update update with them in a few months, and Diane is actually happy about the roses and the gin waiting at the table. She's never getting that again. She ruined that for the rest of their relationship. I just want them to be on the same page and them to come on and they're glowing and laughing over their first pregnancy scare.
Starting point is 00:18:53 That's my dream for them. Just having a great time. You have a different idea of fun. But yeah, that sounds good, Jeff. Anyway, we want to help you have fun in your dating life. Email the show. We'll call that person who's not calling you back. And you can always listen to any of our second date updates wherever you get your podcasts at Brooke and Jeffrey.
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