Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - Second Date Update: Love At First Height

Episode Date: April 24, 2026

Mike only had one shot to plan a night that Elise would never forget and what happened was definitely memorable… but was it a good memory? Find out in your Second Date Update podcast!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Yeah, you missed it. It was a few days ago. Yes. Do I bother to explain? No, go listen. You know, and then you'll figure it out. It was funny. It was not about the football team.

No, but 49ers is a new slang term. Yes. For someone who is a four but acts like a nine. Yeah. And so some comments from that. Wesley said I hate so much this attitude of numbers. remembering people. Yeah, I mean.

Yeah, fair. But it's still funny. It is. It helps give a good visual. Someone said even cows have better self-awareness than her, if you ask me. Wow. That was harsh. Yeah, I listened to this with my wife when I mess up.

That way she could see how awesome I am in comparison to some people in the dating world. That is a good tool. Yeah, and a lot of people comment, a lot of hate on her, you know, and a lot of people commenting on how she used the word gauche. Oh, yeah. Yeah, and a lot of people are like, my favorite part is when she confidently used the word gosh incorrectly. And does she think it's a new word? Where has she been? Okay. All right. Now, so I'm getting... I didn't know it. We're getting vocab lessons as well on

the show. I love it. I love it. Well, we'll see what you think about today's episode. Is it gosh? Tell us. Definitely drop it. Now I was scared to use it. I don't know. Drop it in the comments and guaranteed we won't use any big words on you. Okay. Your new episode starts right now. Brook and Jeffrey in the morning. Second date update. We do lists on this show all the time about what guys look for in women. Yeah. And never in the top 10 do we ever hear height as one of the options.

That is a really good point. It's usually like they want a good sense of humor, intelligence, someone who can pick a restaurant in under 45 minutes. That would be great. But that's why I was shocked when I saw an email from our listener, Mike, saying he has a height requirement for his dates. It's got to be a short requirement. No.

Short girls are so fun. Taller the better. Let's go. Really? Like a ride at the carnival. That's Mike's style of dating. He needs our help today. Mike, you're weird and I like it. Welcome to the show.

Thank you for helping. I appreciate it. Okay. I know guys who only want to date really tall women because they want future D1 athletes. That's what I was going to say to. Well, tell us, what's this height requirement about? It really comes down to laziness. I am a very tall man.

I'm 6'6. And I have dated. I've done that. I'm never doing it again. I totally get it, yeah. Just for the sake of your back is what you're doing. Well, and all the extra work. Like, you have to reach all the high shelves for her. I mean, that's the way that goes in my house anyway.

That's not fair at all to Mike. Bring your long arms over here and get that for me. So you must have met with a woman who met your height requirement. What's her name? Her name is Elise, and she is six-three. Hey, there you go. And I bet she loves this, because all girls want. everyone else to leave the tall guys for them.

Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Okay. And how did you meet her? I met her on our dating app. Do women lie in the same way that men do about their height? I'm guessing some do, but most don't. No. Okay. You saw her in person and she did legit come out to be six-three. She was. She was absolutely gorgeous. Wow. Lucky you. The image of you two walking together into any place would be really intimidating as somebody else. Where did you go for your date?

I picked her up at her place. and I had told her I didn't want to do the normal first date thing because I just find it kind of boring and also we're both, we'd probably find it a little cramped. So I knew the perfect idea would be to take her on a surprise and she was like, well, where are we going? And I was like, it's a surprise. Okay.

And it was my buddy's backyard barbecue, which sounds a little... Whoa. Unimpressive until I tell you that my buddy is an amateur chef and he was doing his own little habachi restaurant. That's cool. That's fun. That's cool. I love when you have friends like that.

Yeah. Okay. It's slightly dangerous too because he might burn stuff down, so that could be fun. So did she not know it was your buddy's house until you pull up outside of like a random home? Exactly. And then he had the whole backyard deck down. So it was a whole scene. And then it was all my friends.

So she got to meet them all at once. That's a lot of pressure to walk into. I mean, I don't know if it's been. better to know beforehand and get in your head about it? Or if it's better to be like, well, we're doing it, we're in it. Yeah. Did she have fun? I think so.

That's why I guess I'm calling you guys is because the backyard party was a great time. And everybody was having really good conversations and there was a lot of laughing and there was dancing at one point. And my buddy was doing the habachi thing and that's really impressive. Yeah, for sure. It would hit or miss sometimes with the knife work. Oh. What do you mean miss?

Oh, no, you dropped the knives a couple of times. Oh, okay. Oh, okay. But not on his feet. Yeah, like you left with all of your limbs attached. No injuries, nothing like that. Okay. I'm imagining some people's steak were huge, some were tiny.

So you know how to cut. Okay. Exactly. It wasn't very uniform and it probably wasn't up to the health code. But other than that, fun. Right. But, yeah, only one negative is that my buddy and his girlfriend, who were the host of the party, they got into a minor tiff and it kind of killed the vibe a little bit.

Oh, it was like a loud one? Yeah, and then everybody kind of drifted away and kind of gave them their own little bubble for a bit. Are we allowed to know what the fight was about? You want the juicy tea? Yeah, I think she was on him because he had cut the vegetables weird or something like that. Is that the drama you were looking for to?

Yeah, he deserves to get chewed out over that. He's not throwing the shrimp very accurately. Yeah. That happened. That happened at one point. My buddy tried to toss the shrimp into my mouth and it hit Elise. Oh, yeah. That was funny.

That was a funny moment. That is funny. Did she laugh? She did. Okay, good. Okay, that's good. That is good. No, that would be silly.

I mean, the only thing I could think is whenever you're in a big friend group, it can be easy to get distracted. Did you leave her alone for long periods of time? No. It was very organic. Like sometimes it was the girls drifted into a clump and the guys. And then after the Hapachi thing, we then went out for a drink. And it was just her and I, and it was really, really cool. And the conversation, again, was.

It's flowing. That's a huge green flag, bro. She went out again after. You guys already spent time together. Unless he went to a different friend's house for that one. He's an amateur bartender. He's doing flair. That's actually kind of cool.

He's setting drinks on fire. She's like, there's so much free food and drinks in this relationship. Okay. So after food and drinks, how did the night end? I took her back to her place and a very chaste hug. Goodbye. A chaste hug. Come here.

You do, like, run after her. right? Wait a minute, come back. Chase does in, like, very innocent hug? A friendly hug. I don't know. We'd had a good time. We'd had a drink together. I didn't want to push my luck. Maybe, I don't know.

At the time, I was like, I'm just going to hug her goodbye. And then we're going to totally see each other again. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you've contacted her since, I'm guessing. Yeah, yeah. She hasn't completely ghosted me or anything. Like, she's responded to my text messages and stuff like that.

It's just... Oh, the vibe, huh? Feels like a friend. Yeah. It's like she's like she's. not as into me as she was before we had gone on the date. And if something had gone wrong on the date, just tell me what it is, and I'll fix it. Maybe for the first time in the history of dating, you're too tall for her.

There's no way. She likes to be more eye-level. That's got to be it when we call her in a few minutes here. We'll come back, reach out to Elise for you, and try to get you the tallest second-date update we've ever done on our show. I hope she hears her phone ringing all the way down there. I know. I've never been down to get it when we come back. Second date update continues right after this.

Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Second date update. If you're just joining us, we're talking to Mike, who sounds like the type of dude that any woman would want to date. I mean, and his friends sound awesome, too. Yeah, honestly. Because Mike is tall. Yeah.

I mean, I could just stop there. He'd be good with 99% of the female population. But he's also got friends who do their own habibis. and argue with each other in front of strangers. That's a good time. Means they're comfortable. And recently he took a tall woman named Elise out to meet with his friends and got a nice little hug at the end of the night.

But here's the thing. She hasn't fully ghosted even. They're still talking. It's just the vibes have changed. And Mike can tell. So he wants us to try to help figure out why. You know, we didn't ask, Mike. I know that, like, you have a height minimum requirement.

Did you bring up her height a lot? because my tall girlfriends hate talking about how tall they are. Yeah. Why do you keep bringing it up then in front of them? So I'm wondering if he did on the date. No, not at all. It's a foregone conclusion. We don't have to address it.

That is part of the reason why I've taken it into the equation. Okay. And I figure, you know, as someone is 6'6 probably knows how annoying it is. Yeah, well, maybe if it wasn't something that Mike said, maybe one of his friends brought it up and it could have rubbed her the wrong way. That's true. How many dumb friends do you have, Mike? Morning you can ever know.

A lot. Okay. We have some theories, but let's just call Elise and see if we can get to the bottom of it. I'm going to dial her number right now. Here we go. Hello, is this Elise? This is she speaking. Who's this?

Hey, Elise, this is a radio show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. What's up, Elise? Hi. What, Louise? Good morning. Good morning. Who is this again? We're a radio show.

Yeah, Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. You can find us wherever you get your podcasts at Brooke and Jeffrey, Apple, Spotify, YouTube. We'll wait. You go follow us. We'll wait. We'll do that. We're that desperate. We're just getting to subscribe. Alexis, check the numbers and we get a subscriber. She blocked us.

I heard your question. How do we get your number? It's a good question because it's from one of our listeners named Mike, who you went on a date with recently. Oh, my God. Yeah. Is that a good? Oh, my God. Seriously?

Yes. So this is a segment called Second Date Update. We're trying to help Mike get some answers for why the vibe has changed between the two of you. Or if he's even reading that right. I just can't believe Mike called you about me. Yes. Yeah. Because he felt a connection with you.

That's so weird. Well, he told us all about the date. Why is that weird? I think it's just weird that we're calling about her personal life. That would be strange. Sorry, we've done like thousands of these, so we're really desensitized to this. I understand how it would be weird for you. Totally.

Uh-huh. We're just trying to get your vibe. I'm like, what do you think about Mike? Did we hear he surprised you with the backyard Habachi party with his buddies? Oh, my God. Yeah. I mean, he's a nice guy. Uh-oh.

That's a good star, maybe. That is a dagger to the heart of every man that's ever heard that phrase. That's the worst thing he could have said. We're trying to just get to what's stopping you from talking to him more or hanging out. with him again. So I don't know how much he's told you, but he told me he was like 6-6. He told us that too, that he's 6-6 and you're 6-3. Yeah, I'm like true 6-3.

He's not a true 6-6. Oh. And I usually date guys who are 6-7-68, and I know that sounds really minor, but I'm a tall girl, and if I wear heels, that puts me at 6-6. And he is not quite 6-5. Okay. How tall is he, do you think? I think he's under 6'5 because I think he was an inch above me.

So if I wore heels, I would power over him. Okay. I think very specific about the height requirements for an already super tall dude. I just think you need to maybe loosen that a little bit. Like I have a girlfriend who's 6 foot and she was certain she would never date anybody her height. And she ended up marrying the guy. So here's the other thing. Like maybe I wouldn't mind so much of the height lying.

Like, we had a really fun night. Like, he told you, we went to Habachi, met his friend. And, you know, we went to the bar afterwards. Like, I was putting the vibes out there. I was interested in having fun. You were overlooking the height thing. Yeah. And at the end of night, he was hesitating.

He didn't even kiss me, which I was like, you're not even man enough to like. Oh, no. He thought about it, though. But what about the flip side? Maybe he's man enough to respect you and wait until the next date. There you go. Well, if the vibes are there, and I'm putting the vibes there and being playful and flirty, like, why wouldn't you just plant one on me?

He told us that he had to chase you down to get a hug. No, no. It doesn't sound like you were worried about that hug. He described it as a chased hug. C-H-A-S-T-E. Yeah, it's a quick. I thought he was running after her. No.

It was friendly. Okay. So you didn't get the kiss in person on night one, and that tells you he's not someone who goes for it. Yeah. Like, why do I have to be the one? Like, I want somebody. No, I think we understand.

But I'm just wondering, like, for example, Brooke, let's say that you're in that same situation. Okay? You're on a date. It's been great, but the guy's just not going in for the kiss. And you want him to. What's your move? And you can't say leg wrestle him in the parking lot. How do you get the kiss?

I can't do the leg wrestling? No. What about a full Nelson? Can she get him in a... No wrestling. Okay, okay. How about this? Rock paper, scissors.

Rochambe I win you kiss me I lose you can leave I think it's a pretty good fair way to do it I get to look being like hint I'm gonna do paper Are you serious

Open mouth get ready I want somebody who's gonna take charge And be man enough And so I forget I feel like I could have overlooked the height If he just planted one on me Okay Is that guy though

I hear you you want a guy who's man enough Who's bold who makes big decisions Well he was bold enough To reach out to our show and ask us to call you and wait on the other line listening quietly to jump in and talk to you. Oh, my God. That's not passive. That's aggressive.

Yes. He might even kiss you as soon as we put you on. Mike, go for it. Oh, my God. I would just like to say that I'm not even going to address the height allegations. That seems like you were deflecting right there. And the point being that why I didn't kiss you, I didn't want to rush things. We had such an amazing evening.

Mike, you don't want to rush things, but you took me to your friend's barbecue on the first day and met all your friends. That's actually really true. It's a good counterpoint, Mike. I just thought you seeing me with all my friends would get the vibe of like, this is what I'm like. I did get the vibes.

That's why I was like, let's go to another bar and have drinks because I was like, let's hang out even more. But then you didn't pick up on it. Oh, it was her suggestion to keep. Yeah, but it's so hard when you just meet someone to know what their cues are, right? Like, do I have to give you the okay cue? Just be manning up and go for it.

But that's hard. It's easier said than done. And not everyone likes that. But it's tough, Brooke. You only get one chance now in modern dating to make your first impression to go in for the kiss at the right time. And if you don't, you blow it. That's why I go home with them every time. That blows him totally different.

Okay. That's why I kiss everyone I meet. It's never been a problem for me, but I'm just saying some women. Okay. Some women like it slow. and he was trying to be respectful, and I think that's nice, too. All right. Mike, do you have anything you want to say to Elise regarding your lack of ability to go in for a kiss? Yeah, I should have kissed you. I should have done that. I 100% agree on that, but I did go on another date with me, and I will kiss you. I swear.

That is a man who knows what he wants, Elise. That's what you're looking for, right? Yeah, and he'll kiss you when he picks you up. Yeah, and he can wear platform shoes so that he's the height that you want him to be. Get up some sketchers, shame. Oh, my God. I just can't imagine how small the dating pool is for six, seven, and over. She likes what she likes. But at least we would like to offer to send you and Mike out on one more date. And if you say yes, then we'll pay for it.

Okay. I'm open to a second date. Yay. All right. That's all second date. Mike, you got a yes. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you. There you go. Let's go. Mike. And for the record, I am 6-5. the scosh. I fudge the record just a little bit. Okay. Okay.

I say I'm 5.4 and a half. I get you. Elise, are you still cool with that? Yeah, yeah. Maybe you want to seal this phone call with a kiss? Oh my God. We're waiting. Mike, you had a chance you blew it again.

Dude, Mike, man up, brother. We just talked about that. We're in the confidence. You guys can't see me. I'm totally tongue in the phone right now. That's what I like to hear. That was hot. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning

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to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast, it's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me, or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. to be. Listen to the Clifford show on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more

behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Finally, two tall people get a win. Oh, that never happens in life. And they're attractive, I bet. I like how she was still turned off by his height. I know.

I'm like, my God. But the whole thing, it is the perfect example of how fragile the dating world is right now, because they went out one time. And if we never stepped in. They may have never talked or seen each other ever again. It would have just petered out and died. And I know Alexis was rooting for that, so there'd

be more tall dudes left in the dating pool, but I'm personally glad that we got them to give it another go. You said it, not me. Okay. Makes sense. You look bad, not her. Exactly. But, you know, we stepped in, and

what I'm saying is we should probably be heavily involved in everyone's dating life. No matter what height you are. Yeah, no matter how tall or short you are, no matter what your dating status is, we can help. you email us or find us wherever you get your podcast. We're on Apple, Spotify, YouTube. There's so many platforms.

Sounds like you follow us. I totally do. Yeah, you subscribe. I'm going to go right after I'm done talking. I'm going to go listen to myself. Oh, good. It's at Brooke and Jeffrey. A win is a win.

A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me. Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media. Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast. The Clifford Show.

This is a place for raw, unfilled of conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. So let's get to it. Listen to The Clifford Show on the IHeard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok podcast network on TikTok. When a group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist, they take matters into their own hands. I vowed. I will be his last target. He is not going to get away with this. He's going to get what he deserves.

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this is the insight you won't hear anywhere else. If you want to understand the draft like an insider, you don't want to miss this episode. Listen to the Sports Slice Podcast on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slical Life 12 and TikTok podcast network on TikTok. In 2020, Bachelor star Clayton Eckerd was accused of fathering twins. But the pregnancy appeared to be a hoax. You doctored this particular test twice in so-ins, correct? I doctored the test ones.

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Yeah, it would not be. Right, it wouldn't be that. There's a lot of luck. Listen to Thanks Dad on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.