Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - Second Date Update: Microwave Mosaics

Episode Date: November 21, 2025

Kevin’s unique hobby might be one of the weirdest things we’ve heard and we’re wondering if MAYBE it's reason he isn’t getting a call back...But it's also what makes him one of the most memorable listeners we've ever had on the show!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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You're going to know this. It's so entertaining. Yeah, you're going to know this guy immediately. Hey, hey, welcome to the brand new second date update episode. Thanks for being part of the podcast. And we love when you let us know what you think, how you feel about the show, maybe your opinions on how it went or, you know, how you started listening. Whatever you want to say.

We like to read it. Well, this one says, y'all crack me up. You're like free therapy. And I listed to you at 11 p.m. every night. What more could you want? Hey, Harrison here listening from Dubai. Hey. Dude, 11 p.m. therapy session should be a thing.

We are not therapy. As I go to bed is when I think about all the problems in my life. It's always hardest at night, which is how it is, always, for everyone. Good strat, bro. I'm glad we got you through that. Awesome. Thanks for leaving that comment and for listening all the way from Dubai. That's so cool.

Your therapy session starts now. Yeah, exactly, exactly. Brand new second date. Second date update. On the phone right now, we have a return caller who's more than just a man. He's an artistist. You may remember Kevin from a previous second date call where he decorates the inside of his fridge

as part of a TikTok trend He's a fridge scape Kevin That's right, fridge scaper Couldn't be more thrilled to have him back on the show Kevin real quick Could you remind us what happened the last time you were on with us For a second date? Well, I had a girl around me place

And they ran out toilet paper for her Oh yeah You'd used it in this sculpture that was inside your fridge, right? Yep, she didn't like that thought of using the toilet paper out of fridge. Okay. Okay. And cold toilet paper, actually, pro tip, by the way. Yeah.

But not for those reasons. You can't ruin art just for the bathroom. Exactly. Some people are particular about lots of weird things. So obviously, she wasn't your match. But you're back today because maybe you found yourself a new romantic interest. Is that right? Yeah.

Okay. Did she get to see your fridgecaping skills? No, I actually TikTok trend kind of died out now Oh, you're not doing it? You only go with the trends, you don't do it because you like it? No, yeah, I got a new thing. I'm so curious, what's your new hobby?

Do you guys know microwave mosaics? No. Microwave mosaics. Sounds like it shouldn't be metal. Yeah. What is that? So what I do is I rearrange the leftover stains into abstract pieces, the splatter patterns,

like they tell a story. You know, wow. The splutter patterns inside your microwave. You turn that into, like, a scene. What do you mean? Do you, like, paint it onto, like, what it looks like you painted onto a canvas or what? No, I just, I'll leave, like, soup in there way too long, and then I take some pictures of it. Oh.

Did that one of totally earned you an A in one of my art classes in college? Right? Back to this new girl. What's her name? Her name is Audrey. Okay. And how did you meet Audrey? I met her at Michaels when I was picking up.

some art supplies. Okay. So she's a crafty girl, too. Shared interests. Yeah, it was pretty awesome. Like, I was picking up a jumbo of Gugly Eyes, and she was getting some sort of acrylic paint. And, yeah, we just started talking about art.

Yeah, the Glele Eyes is a conversation starter at checkout for sure. I think that's so fun. Like, art is so important, you know, especially to your life. So that's cool that you bonded over that immediately. Very true. Yeah, just asked her if she wanted to grab a drink sometime, and she gave me her number. So, sweet. Hey.

Well, there you go. Isn't that wild? Like, Michael's, the hookup spot. I know. It feels like fate intervened in the arts and craft section. I bet Michaels is a good place to find a girl. I mean, hot tip, make sure you have the app and the coupons because you could really save somebody a lot of money. Oh, wow.

Okay, you lost me there, bro. It's like the granny tip. No, I'm just saying. Where did you and Audrey go for your date? Well, the date sort of didn't happen. Oh, right. I feel bad about kind of how one. down, you know. What happened? Well, I had a reservation at this bar and we were supposed to meet up there.

Okay. You know, I even brought my whole portfolio to show some of my microwave mosaics to her because I thought, like, she's an artist. She's going to appreciate this. Okay. I get there first and I'm waiting for her. 15 minutes goes by 20, 30. She's not there. And then after one hour, she finally shows up. Oh, she does. That's shocking. No apology. I mean, I'm super upset at this point. Like, I'm, like, internally fuming. I just decide, you know what, I'm leaving.

Whoa. Some of those artists' creative types, not as, like, on schedule. But being late, the no apology, I mean, doesn't mean it's excusable, but at least have some empathy. Like, was there a conversation that happened at all? I mean, it was just like,

hi, she said, and, like, He was like, bye. What? Oh. Wait, you didn't explain why you were mad? Well, she was an hour late. I know, but you didn't even give her a chance to apologize. Like, she literally said hi, and then you said bye.

You got up and laughed? What if the apology was coming? Well, I wasn't, I didn't hear anything, so I would decide. Oh, that actually makes it a difference. You have to wait until at least after dinner to get the apology. And then you can storm off. Are you regretting that? Because you're calling us to get her back, right?

I mean, that's the thing. Like, that's why I'm calling because she did text me after the fact and was like, what you did was rude and you have no idea what I'm going through. Oh. Oh. I mean, it was rude. I will say, like, I mean, her showing up that late is also rude. But, like, your behavior.

She didn't even say, like, hey, I'm running late. That's even extra rude. Yeah. So it's. then we could. What if she just got a huge car accident and you left before she got to tell you? Well, if her fingers still work, she could at least be like, hey. I mean, did you ever find out?

No, at this point, like, I reached out and, like, I don't know if I'm, like, blocked or what, what not, because there's just, like, no response. Oh, man. And I don't know who side to be on because they both were kind of balanced rudeness. Yeah. Yeah, they both have, I mean, it could have worked it out better. Yeah, it's one of those situations that I think we could maybe fix, honestly. Yeah.

It sounds like it went from zero to 100 way too quick in frustration. So, Kevin, do you still want to, like, try again to get another date with her out of this? Is that your hope? Yeah. Yes. Yeah, like, just like a redo. Yeah. And how are you going to feel if she doesn't apologize still?

Oh. I had a good question I hadn't thought about. Okay. Maybe you can think about that one. But she doesn't get to see his microwave mosaic. portfolio and that's going to be her loss I bet the tomato soup one is going to be one of the faves

Have you seen it? Do you follow me? You gotta DM some of the photos though over to us just on Brooks profile though okay oh and the oatmeal because that oatmeal always explodes You know what I mean? It really does This is a totally different segment of the microwave mosaic art breakdown

We'll do that on your fun little side podcast Yeah, all right but now we got to stick to the Second Date Update, hopefully get some answers for Kevin and find out why Audrey didn't show up for an hour. Yeah. I hope we are. I hope we are. We'll do it with your second date update right after this. Second Date Update. You know, a true artist is able to move between mediums like Picasso did when he shifted from his blue period into surrealism.

I don't know that that's correct. Oh, really, Brooke? Well, technically, that was not the right age, period. Nobody likes that person, Brooke. The same, okay. Okay, you're not backing down. The point is, our listener, Kevin, was able miraculously to move from fridgecapes into microwave mosaics. Yes.

Show me those splatter patterns. He takes photos of abstract soup splatter in his microwave and posts them online. Dude, you should try butter. That stuff explodes like crazy in the microwave. Kevin, she's telling you you're doing your art. wrong. No, I'm not. I'm excited about it, Jeff. I want to like, you're telling him how to do it. Sorry for suggestions, Jeff. I will never suggest anything ever again. It is a suggestion.

That is, an aggressive suggestion. But the thing is, Kevin wears his emotions on his sleeve. And if I'm reading him right today, he's feeling a little guilty. Wow. Way to imply how he's feeling, Jeff. Okay. Maybe you should. Kevin, am I in the ballpark? Yes. This is right. Kevin, maybe having an internal struggle here. Can we call you

tomorrow? No, we're good. We're good. Jeff and I were good. The issue is Kevin's date showed up an hour late. And when she arrived, she said hi. Kevin just said bye and walked away. Which I don't blame you.

Like, wait in an hour is, oh, God. I can't believe you did that. Afterwards, though, she did send a text saying, you were rude. You don't even know what I'm going through right now. So that made Kevin feel like, oops, maybe he messed up. Which is kind of a good life lesson, you know? You just don't know what people are going through. Oh, yeah.

I mean, as soon as we get her on the phone and we get you on as well, are you wanting to apologize? Or lay into her. Oh. I do want to hear what she has to say, which is what I didn't do in the first place. Okay. And also, I really want her to see my portfolio. Right, because she's an art lover, too. We want to see it, too.

Yeah, we do. I'm ready to buy a piece. I'm ready to buy a piece. But anyway. That is not the only one who thought. I can't get into the mind of the artist right now. I mean, there are a lot of horny, weird men in a way. I'll say that.

Yeah, I'm just going to call Audrey and hopefully we can move past the mental images going on in my head. All right, here we go. Hello. Hi, is this Audrey? Yeah, this is her. I'm so excited to talk to her. Yeah, we're all excited to talk to you, Audrey, because you're on a radio show right now called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Welcome to the show, Audrey.

Hi. Good morning. Yeah, no, I'm all set, guys. Thank you so much. No, no, no. Wait, wait, wait, wait, please don't hang up because... It's not a telemarketer call. We're doing a segment from our show.

This is called a second date update. Have you ever heard of that before? I guess that... How did you get my number? We have a listener named Kevin who says he went out... Well, he almost went out on a date with you recently. Oh, God. I know.

I know it wasn't a good interaction. We know that. Yeah, no. I mean, did he even tell you what he did? Yeah. Then he walked out. The full story that we heard is you had, planned a date at a restaurant, you were running about an hour late.

There wasn't a whole lot of communication. And so when you arrived, he just decided to get up and leave. Like you said hi, he said bye. Yeah, I mean, like, I showed up, and he never even asked me why I was late. He never checked to see if I was okay, you know, if I was going through something. Right. That's interesting. And why didn't you text him at all?

Like, oh, my God, it's 15 minutes late. I should probably say something. I was, you know, I was going through something, and I just, it wasn't, I was going to get there when I was going to get there. That's understandable. And Kevin has looked back on the entire experience and he feels like he messed up. That's kind of why we're calling now. Okay. Well, what if I told you guys that one of my parents had passed away that day?

Oh, my God. I am so sorry. That's terrible. Yeah, I mean, I tried to pull myself together after I had like an hour to process it. What? And I made my way over to the restaurant, and then I walked in, he was just so cold to me. Oh, no. I can't even believe that you even, yeah, showed up.

I mean, maybe you were just in shock. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. But for most people, yes, that is, that's a lot. Well, I mean, in my defense, it didn't, they didn't really die. What? Like, they could have. And at least then, like, he could have asked me what he should have asked me what was going on.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on. died. No, she didn't say someone died. She said her parents died. Your parents didn't die? Well, I mean, I said, what if my parents died? Like, if that was a scenario. Oh, that was a theoretical situation you threw at us? I just felt really terrible.

Yeah, that was an emotional roller coaster. All of our work's sake for you, Audrey. I didn't know we're playing what if. Let's emphasize the what if maybe stronger next time because I definitely did hear it. Well, I mean, I was trying to just give an example of how you don't know what's going on in somebody's life, you know?

You went with a really dark example. Yeah. Can you just tell us what was going on with you? I mean, we don't mean to pry personally, but I just need a recovery. Unless it's sadder than that. I don't know if I want to know. What was the real reason that you were in hourly? I don't know.

Maybe if Kevin were to ask me, then maybe I'd answer him, but I don't think it's really any of your business. Okay. Well, that works. Sure. It actually works perfectly because Kevin is on the phone on the other line right now, waiting to talk. to you. Hi.

He almost felt like the worst person in the world with that parent thing. Yeah. Kevin. What did happen? I still don't really understand. I get it that maybe you were going through something. You know, I feel bad that I didn't give you a chance to explain yourself. She's still there.

I mean, well, what if I told you that my parents passed? What? You already did that. You're right. Stop with the what if. He heard that part, Audrey. Wait, you were here the whole time? Yes.

Yes, on hold. He had them listening. Very well. He was being quiet. So he knows that that's not true. Yeah. So why were you really late? Have you really wanted to know?

I kind of just forgot about it. Oh. Oh. Okay. Wait. What's worse? The parents passing or her forgetting about the days? It's pretty close.

Why is there no in between? Can we just lie there's something else? I think forgetting is forgivable. I don't know. I forget stuff all the time if I don't put it in my calendar. You have to write stuff down too, totally. But you've got to be honest about it. Well, because he had texted me, you know, where are you?

And then that's when I realized, like, oh, God, I forgot. I'm supposed to go on a day with that curly-haired art guy. And I realized, and then I tried to get ready. And, you know, like, where we were meeting wasn't super close. So I needed, like, time to drive. And I got over there. and, you know, I show up, and then all of a sudden, he's just like, bye. And I was like, okay, you didn't even give me a chance to say anything.

What were you going to say? I mean, I don't know. I was going to say something about my parents. I don't know. You were going to lie to it. She's going to say, what if first, though? Yeah. Hears everything up.

What if I told you? Yeah. Kevin, how are you feeling hearing all of this? I mean, I'm just kind of like wondering, what if I told her when I was about ready to storm off, like, that I had to go because of my parents' funeral. Okay, let's not... Okay, why are we both throwing hypotheticals at each other? Like, really dark ones?

Yeah, now I just feel like you're being petty. I'm just using the example that you use, Audrey, for me. So if I'm being petty, then that's your fault. Oh, God. Okay, no, that's not... No, those aren't even close to being the same. Oh. Exactly.

That is the literal shame. Yeah. They're doing it again, though. They're trying to out-petty each other again, just like that. Like they did that first night. I know. The thing about a successful relationship is somebody has to be willing to admit that they were wrong and they messed up in order to move forward. And you both kind of messed up in your own rights, right?

It's powerful to apologize. No, I mean, you're right. Ooh, I like that. You're right. Someone needs to apologize. I'm going to give her three seconds to do it. Oh, all right. Audrey balls in your court.

Do you want to toss out an apology? I think you know that it's going to take me at least an hour. Oh. That was funny. She's joking. I don't think so Some nuggets of truth to it And I can't believe

Like that I was actually going to show you My microwave mosaics Like I've never even shown that to another woman In person Oh, you were special Audrey, did you even know he had those? He told me about it He wouldn't shut up about it

Oh, okay Yikes Well, shoot Well, I've said it before And I'll say it again Bye Whoa Wait

That is that he doesn't want to Kevin, you can't say bye because I haven't even asked Audrey yet if she would like to go out on another date with you because Audrey, if you're up for it, we would pay for it. Oh, wow. Look at that. I just got a text that I think my parents had. Oh, God. Oh, no. The timing.

Yeah, that's it. Quite the information to deliver via text. Oh, wow. Kevin, at this point, do you want to check in with her and see how she's doing? I mean, are you okay? Kevin, she was being sarcastic with you there. Her parents aren't dead. Oh.

Kevin. Oh, my God. Kevin, I think you stood in front of the microwave too many times. Yeah. Oh, that was an artist. We're never having two artists on the same call ever again. This is too messy. Yeah, Kevin, you need to date an accountant.

Brook and Jeffrey in the morning. A decade ago, I was on the trail of one of the country's most elusive serial killers. but it wasn't until 2023 when he was finally caught. The answers were there, hidden in plain sight. So why did it take so long to catch him? I'm Josh Zeman, and this is Monster, hunting the Long Island serial killer, the investigation into the most notorious killer in New York

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It's that bad? The degree of pettiness where you just can't let the other person win or feel good about anything. No mistake will ever go unpunished in the dating world. Oh, God. That is a bleak outlook, Jeff. I thought you were going to come with something more positive and hopeful. She completely forgot about the date and then tried to gaslight him and make him feel guilty by a inventing dead parents.

The thing is, is I think that's so understandable to forget. Like, she actually put effort into still making it there. And then she made it worse. Yeah, yeah. I guess, but for me, I'd be like, oh, if I'm not important if you remember our first date, if you're not excited about it, then I'm obviously not important. Is showing up an hour late really putting in a lot of effort? Well, I mean, I think it's forgivable to forget a date.

Like, especially a date of a person that you had a brief interaction with. You know, if you don't write it down, how do you remember? I think that she could have just been honest, but... Too late for mine. That's lame. There's another theoretical out there that you just can't work with anymore. It would have been great, but it didn't happen. Yeah.

I don't know. If this doesn't make you feel optimistic about love, what will? Yeah, go on a date today, guys. I mean, his microwave mosaics were pretty uplifting. That was. I'll say that. I'll sure feel inspired. So make sure to go find our podcast, Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning,

home of the second date update on Apple, I heart, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. YouTube, too. A decade ago, I was. was on the trail of one of the country's most elusive serial killers, but it wasn't until 2023 when he was finally caught. The answers were there, hidden in plain sight. So why did it take so long to catch him? I'm Josh Zeman, and this is Monster,

hunting the Long Island serial killer, the investigation into the most notorious killer in New York, since the son of Sam, available now. Listen for free on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcasts. on this week's episode of next chapter i t d jake sit down with denzil washington a two-time academy award-winning actor and cultural icon for a conversation about change identity and the moment everything shifted i mean i don't take any credit for it is nothing i did as special you know did knock down a few pegs and and and and recognize it, but I just didn't put me first. I just put God first, and he's carried me. Whether you're rebuilding, reimagining, or just trying to hold it together, this one will speak

to you. Listen to the next chapter podcast on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. New episodes drop weekly. Don't miss one of them. On the podcast Health Stuff, we are tackling all the health questions that keep you up at night. I'm Dr. Priyankawali, a double board certified physician. And I'm Hurricane Dibolu, a comedian and someone who once Googled, do I have scurvy at 3 a.m. And on our show, we're talking about health in a different way, like our episode where we look at diabetes. In the United States, I mean, 50% of Americans are pre-diabetic. How preventable is type 2? Extremely. Listen to health stuff on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

The Big Take podcast from Bloomberg News keeps you on top of the biggest stories of the day. My fellow Americans, this is Liberation Day. Stories that move markets. Chair Powell opened the door to this first interest rate cut. Impact politics, change businesses. This is a really stunning development for the AI world and how you think about your bottom line. Listen to the big take from Bloomberg News every weekday afternoon on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And she said, Johnny, the kids didn't come home last night.

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