Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - Second Date Update: Motivational Freaker

Episode Date: August 6, 2025

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And then we usually follow that with. It backfired. Yes. Exactly. They're going to plan stuff. And they're like, he didn't have a strategy. Yeah. So you're going to hear the backfire here in just a second.

But we always love to highlight your comments because it really truly means the world that you're here with us, that you're listening, that you're, you know, supporting the show. Yeah. And I saw one from, first of all, just love the username, Baby Jay is Crave for Her Bay. Who said, I listen to you guys on my five plus mile runs every morning. Good job. Y'all even helped me get through my first. 3k I finished 10th in my age gap oh my gosh that's amazing I just can't imagine racing

next to someone who's listening to us in their headphones I don't know why you're a runner you don't listen to yourself can't say I'm listening to bad dating but maybe I should try it imagine Alexis passing another runner and she can hear herself in their headphones yeah it's so funny it's so much for listening wherever you're listening we appreciate it your brand new second date starts right now second date update the best advice Brooke ever got in radio I know this because Brooke mentioned it

after she heard it at a radio conference but it was be your authentic self I hate that piece of advice like what else are you supposed to be just be you and it'll all work out said no one ever okay it doesn't actually work that way and that's Brooke's authentic self right there

just showing her anger and aggression the only way you can be your authentic self and make a name for yourself is if you're a nepo baby. There's a lot more work that is involved. That does make... You know what I'm saying? Cut the music. Cut the music.

Okay. Remember... Do you want me to go on about this because it really chaps my hide? We've got enough of the authentic you, I think. The same advice I would think would apply to romance, though, to just be yourself, right? I guess. Because seriously, too many people

are putting up fronts when they're trying to impress love interests on dates, when actually it's probably a lot better for you to just drop the act and be who you really are. Yeah, meaning like for me, I wouldn't say I love hiking. Exactly. When I go on one hike every 10 years. That's you sticking true to you.

And apparently that's what one of our listeners, Dirk, is all about staying true to his real self and finding someone with similar interests and hobbies as him. Okay, Dirk. Which is awesome to hear. So, Dirk, welcome to the show. Oh. Sorry about that hard intro there. I'm glad you are who you are.

Do you believe her when she says that? I do. I believe that. No, I'm asking, does Dirk believe you? I believe you. I do. Okay. Dirk and I are on the same page here.

He's terrified of you. So, Dirk, let's just move on. Tell us, what's the name of this woman and where did you meet her? So I'm calling about a lady named Michelle. Okay. And we met at a volunteer charity event. Oh, that's cute. I mean, already you have some shared interest because you're both there supporting the same cause, right?

Yeah, yeah. It was the young Republicans for grassy change. Oh, that's good, Brooke Come on, this is awesome I thought it was like a charity That is a charity It's a political movement It's different

Okay Brooke can you please I thought you were helping people in need You know They're helping politicians in need Brooke Come on It's grassroots That doesn't mean

It's grass roots No Brooke Okay Brooke is anti-grass now So I'm sorry about that dirt Keep going You met at this Political party This shared event

Look I was just there doing some networking, and that's where I met Michelle. Okay. And we started chatting, and I just felt like a connection. Awesome. Great. So what'd you guys do? Just nothing out of the ordinary, I would say. You know, we spent a few hours talking at the

bar. Oh, that's great. We talked about important issues that we care about, you know, obviously. You know, she was going to some difficulties with her job. You know, she's a little frustrated. Yeah. And so, you know, I try to give her sort of like an impromptu, you know, like a pep talk.

about unlocking her inner greatness. Unlocking her inner, is that the last self-help book you read? Wow. It sounds like it, right? I do like when I'm on the internet and you scroll and you see one of those speeches for like 30 seconds. It's like, you can do it. Take on the day.

I'm like, yes, I can. That's right. Really, I'm like, you don't know me. This is so fake in general. What a nice gesture for somebody to do to someone who's clearly struggling with their job to like offer some words of encouragement. That must feel good for her. See, I'm actually, I'm a professional motivational speaker.

That's what I do. Oh. So you were working while on your date. Did she have the response you were hoping for? Yeah, I mean, it was towards the end of the date, and it looked like maybe she was just getting tired anyways and thinking about her job is never fun. So we kind of decided to, like, wrap it there. So I figured, you know, I'd walk her. So she called the date.

She wanted it to be over after the motivational speech. I don't think right after. I think it was just already kind of feeling like it's towards the end. end of the night anyways. Okay. Okay. I might have overdone it a little bit because when we did go outside, we were walking to her car and there were some kids on skateboards, you know, and I try to give them some motivational

advice. Oh. On the fly, just shouting motivational quotes at them? I said, like, you are your own skate ramp to success. Oh, God. All right. Let's go up and the back down again. A little surprised they didn't run over and try and beat you up.

This was in the middle of the night, but... Flip you the bird and skate off. But how did you leave it with you and Michelle? Well, when I dropped her off, I gave her a little keepsake. Oh, no. What did you give her? Well, I had written down some inspirational quote. Oh.

Can you share one of the things you wrote down with her? One of them was, a tomorrow is always bigger than today. Oh, I don't know what that means, but it sounds. And the sun will come out tomorrow. Yes. Yeah, well, that's a quote from a song. You can't steal that. We're going to get sued.

I mean, that's a nice gesture to be like, I'm here to support you and help you out, right? It's if anybody did their job that much on a date. Like, it doesn't matter what job. It's like. That's a good point. I mean, unsolicited advice is always a little touchy for people. But I understand his sentiment. I think that he was trying to do the right thing.

I think he's a suppressor a little bit. Because, like, how often do you meet someone who, like, is a motivational speaker? But, yeah, there's a time and a place. Yeah, you know, I might have been just a little bit nervous. Just went back to what I know how to do. Yeah. Makes sense. I mean, if she says that's a reason, can you turn it off next time?

What? What? Can you stop being who you are? Like, some people just want to joke about a bad day, not have to hear positive feedback. He's like on. It sounds like he's on all the time. I said I was nervous. What do you hear about that, lady?

Oh, I understand that. I'm asking if you could be more relaxed next time. Okay, maybe you should relax a little bit on him. He called to figure out what was wrong, and that may have been what turned her off. How long has it been since the date happened? It's been like a week and a half. Do you know if she read your motivational quotes? I don't know.

I told her to read them in the morning, but she didn't read. I don't know. Maybe she's just waiting for tomorrow to call you since tomorrow is always bigger. If we never actually get to tomorrow, you know. That could have been a little bit confusing to her. So maybe she'll pick up the phone and we can clear it all up and motivate her. to greatness. Yes.

We're going to ride the skate ramp to success of the second date update. Again, I don't get it. Very big. We'll do it right after this. Hold on. Second date update. I was going to read some inspirational quotes to motivate my co-host to have a great part too.

Oh, really? But I'm not sure they can take any more inspiration. I have been over-inspired. Yeah, I feel fully inspired. Not surprised after we heard from Dirk about his first date with Michelle. where his natural self came out, and his natural self is being a positive motivational speaker. He tried to give some encouraging words to Michelle about her job,

which she was complaining about. He shouted some affirmations at some skateboarding teens. Even handed Michelle a little piece of paper with handwritten quotes designed to lift her spirits. And despite all those good vibes and good intentions, Michelle has been avoiding him. Oh, maybe he forgot to put the last one, call me back as the motivational...

That is possible. Sometimes you need to really spell it out. Dirk, you didn't put that in your motivational quotes? That was not one of them, though. Okay. Okay, maybe add it for next time. Have you ever heard from other people in your life, like on a personal level,

maybe you overdo it with motivation? I'll be honest. I don't have a ton of friends. So, you know, I would say, like, that is not something I've heard all that often, but a lot of people also don't know that much about me. Yeah, there's not a lot of time to make friends when you're busy inspiring the world. I don't know that we know a lot about you other than the motivational stuff.

Yeah. Yeah, that's actually all we know. Yeah. But that's still a positive thing. Like, if a guy started going through a motivational speech, you're not going to be like, shut up. Right. Give me some context, because I might. Hopefully not on a date.

I'm just praying that Michelle picks up the phone and gets us some answers here because he deserves that. Right, Alexis? Yes, right. Did you even listen to what I said there? Something we're calling her. Okay. Yeah. And I'm ready.

To call her. Let's dial her number. Hopefully she picks up. Here we go. Hello. Hey, we're looking to speak with Michelle. Yeah, this is Michelle. Hey, Michelle.

Not sure if you're ready for this, but you're on a radio show right now called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Hey, Michelle. We're all here. Hi. Good morning. okay that was such an annoyed sigh we get it yeah we're already awake yeah you may not be sorry I know it's early so we're just hoping to make this really quick with you because we're doing a segment called a second date update okay okay I don't know if you're familiar but it's where we try to

help out our listeners who've gone out with somebody recently and they're not getting a call back for a second meetup yeah sure oh you have heard okay you're familiar Yeah, yeah. Gotcha. That's cool. All right, you want me to speed it up? I see. So we're calling on behalf of one of our listeners named Dirk, who you met up with recently.

Oh, God, okay. Oh, God. I'd love to hear how your date went. It was kind of weird, I guess. Weird, you say? In what way? I mean, like, we just went to a bar and stuff, but like. Yeah, we heard, I mean, just to recap,

what we know about it so far yeah we heard you went to a bar you talked a lot about your shared interests you opened up to him about your job being a little rough recently and then he walked you home through a park by some skateboarding teens yeah did he tell you that he yelled at said skateboarders yeah that did come up he said he said that he shouted some affirmations maybe at them not like being yeah something about the skate ramp of life yeah what did you think about that I mean, he's told me that he was like a motivational speaker or something like that. But like these were just like random kids. It was kind of like off-putting, you know, at the end of the date that was already kind of weird.

Yeah, but they are skateboarding so you could tell their life's kind of on a downward trajectory. What is that after doing that? Skateboarding is a valid hobby, just like any other hobby. Okay, name one skateboarder who went on to do great things. Tony Hawk. Yeah, what? He's still, he's retired. He didn't do anything.

Anyway, sorry. But we're not getting sidetracked with the values of skateboarding. Back to Dirk. Yeah. And what did you think about him yelling all the motivational quotes at them? I mean, I get it. He said it's like his job and stuff. But like, he said he doesn't do it that much.

I was like, yeah, you kind of do. I was like, I mean, you already try to motivate me. And now you're talking to like these kids that are just skateboarding. And then he's like, I only have like one client right now anyways. And I'm like, okay. Well, are you like coaching like a CEO or like what's the deal? I'm like, yeah. And he was like, I'm the client right now.

Oh. What? I was like, you have one client. And he was like, no, it's like me. Like, I wake up. I talk to myself in the mirror. Like, I record them. Like, motivational speeches are really helping me.

So he motivates himself every morning and he considers himself his own client. Yeah, no. Like, you know, I was like, I'm a great client to myself right now. I'm like, what? It's ultimate. It's ultimate job security. You know that you're not going anywhere. Yeah.

Yeah. I was like, it's fine. I was like, I get it. I was like, maybe you're just quirky or some. Like, I don't know. And I was like, can you just tone it down? And then, like, he dropped me off and, like, wrote a bunch of quotes down for me when I was in the bathroom. And then I, like, I, like, he left and I just sat there, like, was I just, like, punked?

I was like, did I not understand, like, what he was saying? Okay. Maybe you weren't reading the quotes the right way. And you need to hear them spoken directly by Dirk because he is on the other line right now waiting to talk to you and inspire you. There's no way. No, he there is. That's how this works. Durkie there?

Yes, hello, Michelle. Oh. Hi, Dirk. So business-like. It makes me a little sad to hear that you didn't have a good time. I want to find out. Do I not get it, though? Like, are you actually your own client?

Or am I confused? Yes, I am a motivational speaker. At the current moment, I am my only client. But I will. Like, what am I supposed to do with that? I think maybe Dirkshey's a little confused, because how can you call yourself a professional motivational speaker if you don't actually speak to anybody else except yourself.

If you don't get paid, I think that's a part of professional. You could be aspiring motivational speaker. That's a good maybe title for you, an aspiring motivational speaker. Well, I did have two clients in the past. Okay. They were paying clients, but they could not afford my rates, which is why I had to drop them. Okay. Oh, so you charge a lot on top of all of this.

But you can pay for your own rate, like you can afford yourself. I have a good deal worked out with myself. Okay, that's nice. Friends and family discount there. Do you have another job? This is currently my main focus. I am writing a book about my experience of coaching yourself. What's the title of your book?

I'm writing two books. First book is going to be called Starts With Yourself. Oh, that's a good title. It starts with yourself. Yes, and then the second book is, if you can't say it to the mirror, Who could you say it to? There's no way your real person use it.

Why are you feeling so inspired by what he says right now? Can you take this from somebody else? Can you not stop? We kind of talked to Dirk about that already. Like maybe tone it down a little bit, Dirk, and show her other sides of you outside of the motivational speaker part.

Impress her in other ways. Like, who are you? You know, like, what do you love to do? What do you care about? I love motivating people to be the, The best is no way. Okay. Well, I'm pretty motivated to get off the phone now.

What about you, Jeff? I don't like that we're all giving up on Dirk for trying to be himself. I don't think he's trying to be himself. I think that's the problem, Jeff. He's trying to be a version of himself that he wants to be. He's not being who he is, right? Like, if you're on all the time, you're not being your authentic self. That's the title of my new book.

That is a really long title. Well, Dirk, you have some competition. in the literary world coming up with Brooke here, but I'd still like to get you another date. I mean, I know this is a long shot, but we would offer to pay for a second date for you, Michelle, with Dirk, if you're willing to give him another chance.

And you said you liked him outside of that, right, outside of the too many inspirations. Let me ask this, do you guys think that you would feel safe in a room alone with him at this point after learning all this? Like, I'm too safe. You should ask that question to yourself in the mirror like it says in his second book.

Look, you already read the book. This is freaking nuts. Like, no, I'm sure I'll read about him in the news one day, but I see I'm out. Yes, as one of the most inspiring leaders that this country has ever seen. I think he's the opposite of dangerous, but, yeah. I don't. Dirk, it's sounding like it's a no from Michelle. Do you have any last words for her anything to motivate her or us or our listeners inspire us?

It's okay. It starts with you. Yep. That's right. I like that. Okay. That's good. So it wasn't the best match this time, Dirk.

but you keep at it, and there's definitely going to be a woman out there who appreciates a little bit of motivation in their life. I believe so. Okay, I think the key there is a little bit. A little bit of motivation. A microscopic amount of motivation. That's what we need to leave with, Dirk. Thank you.

We crushed the spirits of a motivational speaker in one second day of update. Amazing. If we weren't going to do it, his only client was. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. In 1920, a magazine article announced something, Incredible. Two young girls had photographed real fairies. But even more extraordinary than the magazine article's claim was the identity of the man who wrote the article, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, the man who wrote Sherlock Holmes. Yes, the man who invented literature's most brilliant detective

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I bet we're going to be flooded with skateboarders who are really looking for some good skateboard analogies to be affirmed by... A hundred percent. And I'm sure you do. You get what you pay for. Just like when you email us for free help with your dating life. That is the truth right there.

Sure. We will call that person who's not calling you back. Will we actually help, though? Question mark. We'll try. Yeah. That is a promise. I mean, this is an A for effort type of show.

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