Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - Second Date Update: No Concert For You
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Hey, we got you today.
Brand new second date here coming up.
But first, let's reflect.
Shall we?
Shall we on telling your mother-in-law that you need a love-making session with her son?
Oh, my God.
That was yesterday's awkward Tuesday phone call.
If you have not listened to it, you should right now.
We got a lot of comments on that one.
What do you see, Alexis?
Yeah, Keeler's world said, as embarrassing as that is,
I don't know any man in my personal world that wouldn't be very happy
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That's really sweet.
Yeah.
Yeah, and the mother-in-law will eventually get grandbabies if that's what they're working towards, you know.
There we go.
Well, definitely leave your thoughts and musings, we'll call them.
In-law drama.
Yeah, today's second day.
It's starting right now.
Second date update.
There's a ton of bad dating terms out there to describe what happened to you, whether you got catfish or breadcrumbed or Mongolian barbecue.
Why is it all taste the same?
it's supposed to be a bad thing
I'm curious
is there a term for when your date
shows up to meet you
and then cancels almost instantly
for the rest of the night
what after she saw you meet up
you're in you're together
yeah and then they like
no actually never mind
oh how I'll call that
I think that's disappointment
or honesty
yeah
brutal honesty maybe it's one sip wondered
because we need to figure out
whatever the term is
I don't think that's going to catch on, but yeah.
Okay.
Disappointed is what we'll go with for now.
Apparently, it happened to our listener, Decker, that his date bailed almost immediately.
At least that's what I got from reading his email, so let's talk about it.
Decker, welcome to the show, ma'am.
Hey, how you doing?
Dude, why would you even want to call this person back if they were that rude?
You know, I'm not even, I'm not even sure if she was so rude.
I just, I can't figure it out.
Huh.
I guess maybe we need to understand the story more.
No, let's draw conclusions right now without knowing anything.
It's usually how I like to do it.
I think he had bad hair.
Yeah.
You know what?
Maybe we'll get a few details from you, Decker, if that's okay.
Let's just start from the beginning.
What's this girl's name?
Kelsey.
Okay.
Where'd you guys meet?
Bumble.
Okay.
So it was an online date.
Okay.
You know, I'll be honest, the last couple of months, I've been getting a much more positive response on my Bumble profile.
I changed my main picture.
And I feel like that did the trick.
What was the big change in the photo?
Yeah.
What other person did you use as your profile pick?
No, no.
I took, it's my face, but I superimposed it on another person's body in a picture.
Well, you know, Luke Combs is in the picture.
It was a picture with Luke Combs, and it's my face, so I'm in the picture with Luke Combs.
But you never actually met Luke Combs.
I mean, I've actually met a lot of famous people.
I worked backstage in some music venues, so I've met a lot of cool.
But I didn't have a picture with Luke Combs.
Why?
Use another picture of another celebrity.
Well, is it a really good Photoshop job, or is it a really, like, obviously fake one where people would be like, oh, that's funny?
No, it's a pretty good job.
I mean, why do you think she went out with me?
Oh, no.
Because back to dating terms, you catfish, Charlie.
Yeah.
Sort of.
Well, here's the body type similar to your body type?
yeah i think i picked i could pull off an eight pack no problem sure okay well it got her interested in
you at least so tell us about where the conversation went from there we had look we had good
conversation we decided to meet up i know through talking to her that she's a big live music fan
and i thought let's do something fun so i got us some tickets to go see uh morgan wallin in concert
oh wow okay so you're just leaning into this country world all right
That's a big show.
Like...
Yeah, it's expensive.
Yeah.
400 each.
Yeah.
Is it that much?
There's a lot of...
You got to go bigger, you know, don't go at all.
Okay.
Okay.
So I bet she was excited.
How did she take the news that she was going to be seeing Morgan Wallen live in person?
I mean, she was into it.
And we texted throughout the week and things were going good.
Now, a few days before I was going to go with her, I realized I had to take my car to the shop.
And it got stuck there for a few extra days.
So I was scrambling, and I borrowed a buddy of mine's car.
He's got a perfectly nice car.
I wasn't a big deal.
So now you got a fake body and a fake car.
You're so fake, bro.
Not true.
The body was similar, and so was the car.
Okay.
So wait, you even picked her up before this concert?
Yeah, yeah, I picked her up.
And as I'm driving to pick her up, I'm looking in the rearview mirror, check my hair,
and I see that my buddy left these car seats in the back of the car.
Oh.
Oh, he has kids.
Pull over.
Uh-oh.
Put him in the trunk, quick.
I should have done that, but I didn't.
Right when she climbed in, I mean, it's the first thing she noticed.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
So I explained the situation and she seemed okay.
Okay.
Oh, yeah.
You told her it was your friend's car and those are.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, that's good.
Then you don't feel very fake like we were insinuating earlier.
But you said, like, at what point did she leave?
Like, did you guys get into the concert ever?
Well, we went and we stopped and got some food in.
drink one drink at a bar and almost immediately she just says I'm not feeling well I'm feeling
a little nauseous and so she goes to the bathroom a couple times and finally she just says you know
I'm sorry I'm not feeling well I think you're going to have to take me home oh well that feels
legit though that doesn't even feel like an excuse no but why would she not tell you to go to the
concert without her and like Uber herself home that's true she brought up a lot of different options
I mean, I think she felt bad about it,
but what she made clear is I just don't think I can go.
Oh, man.
Well, Brooke doesn't respect this woman after just one drink.
She's saying that, ew.
Right, Bruno?
My guess is that she was trying to power through, Jeffrey,
and then she realized while they were at the restaurant, like, oh, I just, I can't do it.
But this sounds real.
Like, I believe her.
Why would anybody not go to the concert if you're using her lying here?
And you had the tickets, right?
They weren't on her phone that she would allow you.
That's a good point.
She turns around and goes.
Yes, I had the ticket.
Okay.
Okay.
And I honestly, I really did believe that she wanted to go.
Yeah.
But I take her home.
I drop her off.
I've texted her since then saying, I hope you're feeling better.
I hope you're doing okay.
And also said, but we should find a chance to, you know, have a do-over.
And she says, thank you for checking in.
But she has not once responded to the idea of another date.
Okay.
Sounds like she was actually sick.
Is this boring if this is like...
But she also doesn't want to be.
want to see him. Yeah. You know, both things may be true. Oh, because she's not
responding. That's true. We'll find out where the truth really lies when we come back
and call Kelsey and try and get you your country-themed second date update.
Yeah, we're doing it right after this. Get the banjos ready. Yeah, this isn't, we're not
country people. Hold on. Second date update. What would make a woman cancel a concert date
for one of the biggest music artists in the world right before they walk into the show?
Because that's what happened to our listener, Decker.
His date, Kelsey, suddenly told him that she wasn't feeling good and had to go home,
so they never made it into the actual venue.
Maybe she realized she was going to a country music show, and that's...
It dawned on her late.
They had talked about it.
They had talked about it earlier, and she had expressed excitement and interest in going...
I'm just joking, Jeff.
All of, like, the sickness stuff would have been believable,
except for the fact that Kelsey's barely answering him at all after that.
night, which is why Decker thinks something else must be going on other than just the
sickness.
Still, what can be so bad?
You're going to skip one of the biggest concerts of the...
I mean, but they're not fun if you don't like the person you're win.
Yeah, that's true.
That's what I'm saying.
I think we need to know how different he looked from his profile picture than real life.
I mean, he catfished her.
He's a liar.
I'm not a liar.
The point of it was that I would look like I was buddies with, you know, a country star.
It wasn't about the whole body thing.
Oh, but Decker, that's also a lie.
Yeah.
My mind would go to he paid for a meat and greet, not his buddies.
Look, I've met a lot of famous people, just not that famous dude.
I think we're just going on this circle, this cycle, this cycle if we don't just continue.
I mean, I'm having fun on this circle right now, but we'll hop off for a second just to call Kelsey.
I'm going to dial her number right now. Here we go.
Hello.
Hey, is this Kelsey?
It's Kelsey. Who's this?
Hey, Kelsey. This is a radio show. We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Hi, Kelsey.
What's up, Kelsey? Good morning.
Whoa.
A lot of people.
The whole show's here.
Yeah. And we're doing this segment. I'm not sure if you're familiar with it. It's called a second date update.
Okay.
Okay. Take that as a no.
What we're trying to do is we're trying to help out one of our listeners to figure out if there's a reason you haven't really been talking to him much after you.
your first, we'll call it a half date.
A guy named Decker that you met up with recently.
Okay.
The thing is, Decker's confused why there hasn't been any communication between you two after that night.
Okay.
And by the way, we do hope that you feel better because we heard that you were a little under the weather.
Yeah.
Right before the concert.
You missed the whole concert.
I mean, you must have been sick.
Okay, yeah.
I am feeling better.
Thank you.
that's good is decker reading it right that you don't want to hang out with him again
I just I mean the date wasn't what I expected yeah okay well what I could tell you what
he told us was that he had planned this really fun concert night at the Morgan Wallin show
he picked you up in his friend's car which he didn't realize had car seats in the back seat
until you got in which sounds like that would have been pretty shocking for you yeah it was a it was
He's like, oh, hey-o.
It was his body's car great, because, you know,
then friends with people who have families,
that always seems nice.
Okay.
There's not much left to what he told us.
He said you stopped off somewhere to grab a quick drink
right before the show,
and then almost immediately you started to feel sick and had to go home.
All right.
That is true.
Okay.
Is it true that you were actually sick?
That is not true.
Okay.
Interesting.
So something happened where you had to fake it just to get out of the date?
Look, I was excited.
I mean, this guy, I was thinking this guy must really like me.
These are expensive tickets.
This concert is sold out.
I know it is.
And we get to the bar for a drink and food.
And then he tells me the deal with the tickets.
What's the deal?
He says that one of us has to pretend to be hurt.
What?
He brought crutches in the boot.
says, they're in the trunk.
Wait, one of you has to pretend to be disabled
for the night?
I mean, I injured, you know.
Why?
Why would he, why would somebody need to do that?
Because we have to get to the disabled seats,
he says to me.
Oh my God.
He bought seats in a disabled section?
They're hard tickets to get.
This is the only way he could get these tickets.
Yeah.
Oh, no.
If people don't know, they don't go to events.
There is a specific section for disabled people that need wheel.
And so I've actually had this combo with my friends before.
Like, how awful would it be if somebody faked it?
So you're saying the thought has crossed your mind before.
Okay, but you've talked yourself out of it.
So wait.
Are you sure he wasn't joking?
Okay, now I never saw the crutches.
I never saw the boot.
Okay.
I'm like, no, I've got to get out of here.
I can't, I can't do that.
No wonder you laugh.
He's got a real loose moral line.
That's for sure.
Totally see now.
And I'm sure he's not going to be too happy.
that you faked being sick in front of them to get out of a day.
What she did is nothing compared to...
I don't know.
I'm trying to one person instead of 10,000 or however many in there.
Well, there's millions of people listening.
Yeah, a lot of people are listening while Decker is on the other line too wanting to talk to you.
Oh, man. No. Oh, God.
You don't have to feel bad. He's got to feel bad in this situation.
Decker are you there?
Yeah, I'm here.
Decker.
You know what? More than anyone, I believe that there's always...
believe that there's always two sides
to any story.
I'll let you take his side then on this one.
I'm not taking a side. I'm just wanting
to hear what your explanation
is, Decker, for what we just heard.
Yeah. Well, exactly.
There are two sides. And the thing is,
is, look, if you've been to a concert,
you know that this is
big money. I didn't want to spend
all that money to go to this concert and then see
the back of somebody's head.
Doesn't matter. Oh, my God.
Oh, so not only did you not do it because you couldn't get
Tickets, you just wanted better seats?
Yeah.
I paid for the tickets.
I paid for the tickets.
They're not for you.
They're not for you.
You're not allowed to buy those tickets.
They're not for you.
There could have been somebody who wanted to go to the concert who's like, I don't know,
has crutches and they couldn't go because of you.
You're an able-bodied man.
Exactly.
I am able-bodied, but Kelsey, she's not.
She had the crutches in the booth.
Oh, my God.
How many other women have you gotten into this boot?
Oh, my God.
Is this work ever, bro?
Yeah, is that a normal play that you've done before?
He said he goes a lot of golfers.
I don't know if I want to hear the answer.
No, I bought them for this date.
That's it.
And you didn't measure your own foot before you bought it?
Like, what the hell are you going to throw her under the bus?
No, look, it was a deal that I got online.
I was hustling to get this date with her because I want to make it special.
Okay.
He knew that Kelsey was a big country fan and was willing to do whatever it took in order to
get her into this amazing show.
Oh, yeah.
How romantic, Jeff.
Well, that's something that you confer with your date about in advance.
Like, I don't even think I could enjoy that.
Even if we were dating for a year, I don't think I could do that.
Wow.
Chivalry's dead, Jen.
I hope you could just say you could never do that.
I don't know the link to the relationship.
Well, I mean, how good are these seats in this particular section?
They sound pretty good from what Decker's saying.
The front row. She'll be in a first body cast.
Yeah.
All right.
Look, it didn't happen.
It's in the past.
I was able to sell the tickets for a profit anyway, so it's all good.
Oh, come on.
Come on.
So someone who was actually disabled who could have bought the tickets wasn't able to because you had purchased them.
And then.
They were.
They were in the disabled section.
So it must have been a disabled person that got to go for the show, just for a little bit more money than they would have paid otherwise.
Or you're like, hey, the tickets come with a free boot.
Here, put this on.
Tucker, I just want to say, like, it just makes you think, like, what other kinds of lies are okay?
Yeah, like who you're...
Don't make him think that.
He'll come up with something.
Like who you're friends with, right?
Like what celebrities you've actually met
and what celebrities you haven't, Decker.
I've met a lot of celebrities, Brooke.
I don't know who you're talking about specifically.
He's talking about us, obviously,
because he's a friend of the show.
Friend of men.
Maybe I shouldn't have said that.
I'm sorry.
I'm not claiming Decker.
Okay.
Yeah.
He at least is...
Okay, look, you've all made your point, okay?
We just...
We don't see eye to eye on this.
But what I'm going to say is the past is the past.
And look, Kelsey, like I said, I made a couple extra bucks off of it.
Why don't we pretend that this didn't happen and let's go to another country?
It's the dirtiest money.
You wouldn't go out on another date and use the money you made off of disabled people?
You say it that way.
Hey, we don't know if they were disabled.
Oh, my God.
Not officially.
It doesn't matter who bought the tickets.
Okay, I don't know.
Just go out with me again.
And if you say yes to another date, we would pay for it.
We would not.
Okay.
I am not participating in this.
Well, at least pay for the handicapped parking sticker that he'll put on his call.
Okay.
We can borrow one.
What are we going to do then, Brooke?
We're just, she's not going to say yes.
Kelsey, would you ever say yes to this in a million years?
Yeah, no.
I'm going to say no.
It's like there's got to be a line, right?
There is a line.
There's a special shorter line to get in if you sit in the disabled section and you can get in faster.
I'm sure there is.
all right well i think you've learned your lesson here for the next time you take a woman out
it's two boots two sets of crutches that way you're not putting her in a weird position
you're full body cast if you think about it yeah there you go have somebody else wheel you
with brook and geoffrey in the morning all i know is what i've been told and that's a half
truth is a whole lie.
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Kentucky went unsolved, until a local homemaker, a journalist, and a handful of girls came
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They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her.
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They say out of great crisis comes great opportunity.
And already on the text line at 78592, somebody says they came up with a new business plan to buy concert tickets in the disabled section and upsell them the day of.
That's being sarcastic, Jeff.
Personally, I am horrified by it.
I didn't even want to read that, but I did see Brooks' reply that said,
if somebody does launch this, she wants 20% of the profits because it technically was her idea.
Brooke, savvy business.
I like that about you.
You know, you don't always have to side with our listener.
Like, sometimes people cross the line so far that it's okay to say, sorry, buddy.
It's not going to work.
Well, that's not very entertaining, is it?
Somebody's got to try and stand up for the bad things that people do.
Yeah, at this point, at this point, I feel like the listeners need to try to break you, Jeff.
Yeah.
What can they get away with that?
Jeff will not endorse.
I feel like that sentence is the hill you're going to die on.
Yeah.
Well, that's my job.
And at least the overall, that was a pretty easy no that we got out of the whole conversation.
But there's plenty of yeses out there.
They're up in our second date podcasts.
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The murder of an 18-year-old girl in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved for years,
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