Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - Second Date Update: No Uber and a Stupid Haircut

Episode Date: November 18, 2024

The woman on the phone told us about her date and it involved an Uber, a really bad haircut and probably a new LOW for the modern dating scene.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Does he deserve it? Probably not. Forgiveness is a dangerous slope towards other feelings like understanding and compassion and gratitude. None of those things sound fun or sexy. That's what we want in the world though. Not in the dating part of it. We want fun and sexy, Brooke. But one of our listeners has decided to exercise forgiveness today,

even though she says he totally let her down. Oh, Kelsey, are you sure about doing this? Yeah, no, I'm sure. Oh my God. So wait, he let you down And he's the one not calling you back? I know, is that the letdown? Yeah, for sure First of all, I apologize On behalf of this guy

And for all men in general You're apologizing for all men We are sorry What is the name of this particular man who wronged you? His name is Steven. Steven. Everyone boo him. Everybody that I know named Steven is terrible.

Anything about Steven. Me too, and one of my best friends is named Steven. Our producer is named Steven. Okay, actually, now I'm on board. We always call him by his last name. God, that guy. So it sounds like you brought this on yourself, but what did Steven do? So Steven and I went on that guy. So it sounds like you brought this on yourself, but what did Steven do? So Steven and I went on a date, and, you know, it was a good date.

Like, we went to this place that I suggested, which was nice. It was, like, a little upscale. Was it like you're out to dinner? Is that what you guys are doing, or just drinks? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was dinner. It was dinner. Okay. And there were just a couple things that kind of irked me, I'm not going to lie.

Like, so we saw each other for the first time. And, like, he waved to me. I waved to him. But before he came over to me, he, like, turned away for a second and, like, held the door open for this other lady, which, fine, whatever. But I'm like, dude, we're literally just meeting he was just being and you're saying that upsets you because you were just in the middle of like introducing yourself yes totally okay you want him to shut the door on someone well he should be focused on her

that's why i let it slide right okay? Okay. She's telling us she understands. You're more forgiving than any of us would be at that point. It's strange that it was even a flag at all for you. But yes, okay. You let it go. It seems like it was more of a moment for her that she was like, excuse me, never mind. Are you on a date with me or are you on a date with this old lady

trying to get into the door? Maybe it wasn't even that though, Jeff. It was probably a short thought. I could see where she's coming from. You are in a mood. I know. I don't know if I like it. Okay, Kelsey, everyone else is against you, but I'm on your side.

I think that's a total valid red flag. I do like it. That's fair. Should I even tell what the big problem I've been? Yes, yes. I know it's a problem. Go ahead. Okay, so then, like, the day went fine, whatever.

I was looking past this stupid haircut. Anyway. This stupid haircut. Okay. His stupid haircut. It's different than the photos? It doesn't feel like you're looking past it when then you call it a stupid haircut. Yes. Well, I'm on the phone with you guys talking about it, so yeah, I'm looking past it. Okay.

That's true. That's very big of you to do that. No matter what she says, she wants to see him again. Let's remember that part. So he's got a dumb haircut, and what's next? And he's paying attention to other people so far. He opened a door. Did he make more mistakes?

He did. Oh, God. What did he do next? At the end of the date, I was like, this was nice. Can you get me my Uber home? And he was like, no, you can get it. Wait, what? You wanted him to order you an Uber?

Is that a thing? Is that like a normal thing? And Danny never asked somebody to buy. I've never asked. Guys should offer. She just takes his phone and orders it through his phone. Guys should offer. I have never, I've never had a guy tell me no to getting me an Uber.

That's a thing. I had no idea. I also don't think I've ever just not gone home with him. You know? Like, we're separate. That's true. Like, straight from dinner. Fair point, point Alexis so you're mad at him is that your big because you said there was one huge thing that was my big thing I was just like I could

be murdered and you wouldn't know and then on top of it he didn't even text me to check in and see if I got back and I haven't heard from him for all he knows I could be murdered I think all of these complaints are very very very valid from you, but it is starting to seem like you don't like this guy at all. Yeah, that's a good point. Why are we getting a hold of him? Is it just because he's not calling you? Like I said before, I got over the fact that he didn't pay so much attention to me.

He had a stupid haircut, whatever. But I did like other things, like he was really funny. Oh, good. But I did like other things. Like, he was really funny. Oh, good. Okay. Okay. All right. I mean, were you, can I ask, were you critical of any of these things while on the date? I'm just, you know, part of our job here.

Like nagging a little, maybe. Yeah, because that's what Brooke would do on a first date. No. Yeah, she would say it a lot. How could you say that after you literally just railed on this dude? You're the one i agree personally i think he's a schmuck he sounds like a terrible person but she's the one who wants to call him yeah jeff would never look past a bad haircut no like that's definite deal breaker well i'm not

gonna lie like i have a hard time hiding the look on my face but i didn't verbally say anything to him but like i don't know how my face looked. Oh, no. You're just shocked. I feel less. Guys always get haircuts they think it's good the day of. It's good, like, three days later. It's a good lesson. For women, too.

We don't know when he got his haircut. Clearly not at the right time. Whatever it was, it was stupid. We're trying to give him a benefit of a doubt here. So, I know you can't control what was on your face, but you can control what was in your heart, Kelsey. And we need to figure out what's inside steven's heart when we call him and then also mess with his face and his hair a little bit too to get it you're not gonna bring that up well we'll see what happens oh jeff get your best roast

ready yeah call him i want to know why he's not asking me out again okay we're gonna find out we're gonna call this schmuck coming up with your second date update right after this. Second date update. We've had a lot of strong, brave women on this segment before. Yeah, because Brooke's in every one of them. Hey, that's actually nice. Oh, hey, I'm in the room too. Oh, yeah, and Alexis is in every one of them. Yeah, you too, Alexis.

I think Kelsey may be the bravest of them all. Now you're just being sarcastic. She is. She boldly has I think Kelsey may be the bravest of them all. Wow. That one just beats her. Okay. She is. She boldly has chosen to forgive Stephen for his list of mistakes on their first date. Paying attention to the old lady when they were introducing themselves to each other. No one said that the woman was old that he held the door for, Jeff.

Why would he hold it for an able-bodied woman? Because that's what you do. It doesn't make any sense. No, you hold it for all women, Jeff. Why would he hold it for an able-bodied woman? Because that's what you do. It doesn't make any sense. No, you owe it for all women, Jeff. We're gentlemen. Just for peace. They couldn't open the door themselves if they were able-bodied. She also chose to forgive his stupid, dumb haircut.

That one is hard to get over. I'm very proud of her for that. I wonder if she asked him to put on a hat. Most importantly, she chose to forgive him for not paying for her Uber ride home after the date. After she asked. After she asked him to. That is true. He said no.

That is such an awkward moment. Yeah, it is. But despite all of those mistakes that Stephen made, she has chosen to look past them and give him one more chance with this call today. Oh, wow. Kelsey. You are so strong, so brave for what you did. I know. I know.

I'm excited to hear his side. Can I ask one question? After he said no on that Uber ride, did you just stand there awkwardly at the corner while he left, or did you both wait awkwardly for an Uber ride? No, I walked away. You walked away. As no i walked away okay that's how the day ended wow i'm changing my pickup location hopefully after this call you never have to pay for your own uber ever again okay that's our goal for you today so here we go i'm gonna dial steven let's see if he even answers probably won't you hate steven i don't trust the guy i got a stupid

haircut don't like him so here we go hello hey is this steven uh yeah who's this oh steven jeffrey oh my we've heard a lot about you steven we've heard a lot of good things about you steven Yeah, who is this? Oh, Stephen. Jeffrey. Oh, my. We've heard a lot about you, Stephen. We've heard a lot of good things about you, Stephen. I don't know about that, man. Who the heck? Who is this? Oh, wow.

Listen to his language, too, Jeffrey. I know. What the heck? Slandering us. We're a radio show, a very popular one called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning. Yeah. Is this like a prank call? No. We do do those. Yeah. you'd probably be happier if it was yeah but this is called a second date update and we are trying to help one of our listeners figure out what happened on the date

that you went out with her who are you talking about it's a a girl named Kelsey. Oh, of course. My God. Oh, no. Why that reaction? Yeah, what's up with that? I was probably the nuttiest girl I've ever met. Nuttiest? Really? Sometimes that can be good.

Is that a positive? She seems really eccentric. I don't know if I'd want to be called nutty. I mean, we know a little bit about what happened on the date. We're just trying to figure out, like, how did you experience that night? Well, look, so it started okay. We were having a good time. And then towards the end of the day is where it got a little weird.

Is this, like, after dinner? Yeah, so after dinner, I offer her a ride home. And so we're going there, but halfway through, she says, can you stop at the store for me? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You offered to drive her home? No, she got an Uber. She told us that she wanted an Uber home. Oh, yeah.

Just wait. Just wait. We'll get to that. Oh, we're not there yet. Wait, so she takes the ride, and you guys are in the car together? In the car together, halfway to her place. She says, stop at the store for me. Okay.

We go in there and she's getting all this like skincare, hair product, beauty stuff. Okay. And after all this, we get to the counter and her car declines. Oh. $84. That's embarrassing. I was going to say, that's not cheap. Yeah.

How much? Yeah. $84.36 that I paid. Oh. Not that you remember or anything how much yeah 84.36 that i paid nothing you remember or anything did you say so you paid it yeah i paid it because a card declined she was so embarrassed dinner was 200 bucks already and so i'm paying for this stupid skincare stuff yeah but i mean it was a mistake like an honest mistake and like that's so humiliating when you get your card declined. I think anyone would have picked it up. Are you mad about it, though?

No, what I'm annoyed with is the next part, too, because all of it together, it just makes it feel like I'm just getting taken advantage of. Oh. So I tell her, all right, let's get back in the car. I'm going to take you home. And she's like, no, I don't feel comfortable with that. I want to get an Uber. What? She asked me to pay for the freaking Uber.

I'm like, what? Are you kidding me? After you had just paid for her dinner and for her skincare products? And drove her. She was in the car, yeah. Why did she suddenly feel uncomfortable? I don't know. I was just out $300, and now she wants me to Uber her home.

So it was just really weird to me. I really don't get that. So you're like, no, because I could drive you home. That is so weird that she did not tell us that she was outside a store when that happened. We missed that part of the story, and we should probably ask her about it because she's on the other line listening to this conversation right now, Stephen. Oh, great. He wouldn't do it. Oh, no.

What? He wouldn't pay for it. Well, hold on, Kelsey. You didn't tell us any of the stuff about going to the store and him buying you your beauty products. Yeah, we thought it was after the restaurant. What does that matter? Well, that part of the story does matter because we're just trying to, like, understand

what happened that night. You didn't tell us any of that part of the story. Yeah. Hello? Oh, my God. Is she there? Is she hung up? Look, she hung up. Oh, God. What? What did we do? We outed her. Oh.

Yeah. We didn't out her. Steven did. He's the jerk. Oh. I told you we can't trust this guy. The guy who got taken on a date is the jerk. He's just calmly answering our questions.

Oh, Steven. Steven, do you feel bad for making her look like such a terrible person in your recap? Oh, yeah. I feel so terrible for her. Wow. Why would you speak truth? I can't believe you didn't offer to pay for her Uber home after she already got halfway there and you paid for all of her stuff. I don't even get, like, why she called you in the first place.

Did she want to go out with me again or something? I mean, she said she did. That's what she told us. She kept saying, like, you had red flags, but she was willing to look past them. That's right. She's a kind soul who's willing to forgive you for all the mess-ups that you made. It's so dumb. What other mess-ups did she even mention?

You did some horrible things. The list is long, my friend. Do you really want to dive into this? I don't know if you realize this, but you opened a door for another woman. Are you kidding me? No. In the middle of greeting Kelsey. So she felt belittled.

That was an awful multitask on your part. You do know that Jeffrey's being sarcastic right now, right, Steven? I don't know you guys so I have no idea, but I really do. Oh wow, that was rude. We've been talking for the last like five minutes and now you're going to pretend like you don't even know us? Oh man. You see what I'm saying? Kelsey had a point.

How far into the date did you realize that you're going to not be calling her back again? Well, once we get to the store and she gets all the skincare products, I thought it was weird. Yeah. Then her card gets declined. I mean, I just thought she was taking advantage of me, to be honest. But it's skincare products to look beautiful for you. I don't think so, Jeff. That's not it.

I'm not sure about that. That's what you don't get, Steven. That purchase was not for her. It was for you. You know, you don't have to defend her when she's not on the phone anymore, Jeff. Somebody needs to stand up for brave Kelsey, who bravely hung up in the middle of the segment. You're going to die on that hill, huh? He will die on that hill.

It's going to be a very lonely hill that he's on to. You know what? I've never done this before, Stephen. And honestly, I'm not a big fan of you, but I'm still going to offer to give you a gift certificate to pay for a new haircut. Oh, Jack. What's wrong with my hair? Well, I mean, Kelsey said that she liked it a lot. But Brooke in studio when she saw your photo was like, we got to make a change there.

She could hear it over there. Steven, that's not true. I've never seen your picture. Well, I mean, I could send you a few different pictures. What? Oh. What is that? Now I'm starting to like this guy.

I don't even know what that means. Gross. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Okay. Just got done sending Brooke's contact info to Stephen. So, Brooke, there should be some photos arriving in your inbox in a couple minutes. I do not want photos from Stephen. And he said plural. I don't want any photos from any man.

You can sort them like you normally do in all your color-coded hot guy folders, which is very bold of you to do on your work computer, but more power to you. Yeah, that's just of employees. Oh, okay. That's only us. That's allowed. That's fair. Except they're all not hot is the problem.

It's a not hot one. You've got to go with what you're given. I'm just happy I'm on your computer. As far as Kelsey goes from that call, I've got to say I appreciate a woman who knows exactly what she wants. Oh, my God. And what she wanted was to rudely hang up on us in the middle of the call. And doing that took guts.

I respect her for that. Did she know what she wanted? I don't know. It's hard to know. New makeup products. Yeah. I think she got those though. And the guy to pay for everything. Which is fair. I guess. I still feel bad that her card was declined. Or she just has a fake card

Is that what it is? It's definitely not real She knew it was gonna be declined How? She's a scammer You just shut your card off On the app It takes two seconds

Or you just know You're in the negative already I was about to buy her face cream She's scamming her way Right into all of our hearts And you can too If you email the show We'll call that person

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