Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - Second Date Update: Not-So-Spontaneous

Episode Date: September 10, 2021

We can all appreciate a guy who puts in effort, but there's a secret formula for just HOW much to put in. The guy in today's Second Date didn't have it figured out and now he isn't getting a call back!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Second date update. Some people go to Starbucks for their morning coffee. Others go there for their morning squeeze. What? Because they sell juice. Oh. Okay. That stuff is so expensive, though.

Oh, my God. You could also go there to find a hottie. Yeah? Hot chocolate. Oh. They do have good hot chocolate. I think that when you... expensive, though. Oh, my God. You could also go there to find a hottie. Yeah? And hot chocolate. Oh, they do have good hot chocolate. I think that when you order, I think your barista is going to be really confused. I heard squeeze and hottie, and I'm fully invested. I think you guys have perverted minds. I do.

And I think that's what this is about. Absolutely. True. Anyway, one of our listeners, Rob, says he went to Starbucks recently strictly for sex. What? Oh, my God. Okay. Did you just say that?

I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Oh, my God. What? That's the new Starbucks seasonal drink. It's called Strictly Sex. It's delicious. Does it come with whip?

Does it come with whip? Very foamy. Yeah. You got to try it. But let's talk to Rob now. So, Rob. I can't wait to get that. What? Rob. Yeah, I almost hung up because I was like, let's talk to Rob now. So Rob. What?

Rob. Yeah, I almost hung up because I was like, that's not what I did. I'm just messing around, man. But you said you did end up meeting somebody when you went to Starbucks recently. What's their name? Her name was Tiffany. Tiffany, is that what you just said? Yeah, Tiffany.

And how'd you strike up a conversation? I'm assuming you saw her. She was cute, right? Yeah. Kind of like while we were in line at the drive-thru and she was like smiling and attractive. Wait, at the drive-thru? Hold up. So is she in a different car in the drive-thru?

Is she working the drive-thru? No, she's working there. Okay. I'm like, bro, would you crawl into her car and hop in? I noticed you three cars back. She was the hitchhiker I picked up at the passenger seat. I see. So you ordered, and then she gave you your coffee

when you pulled up to the window. Yeah, and we, like, totally hit it off and kept talking. And then she was like, there's a huge line behind you. You got to go. How do you do that? How do you strike up, like, a flirtatious conversation with your drive-thru person? I don't know.

What is your opinion on that, Alexis? Because I feel like maybe he's confused on whether or not the barista liked him. No, I think people can be flirty for sure. And I'll engage if I want to or if I want more tips. But I'll talk back. I mean, do you go to the Starbucks all the time? Did you already know her? I mean, I've been there a few times.

I'd never seen her before. And so I thought i got nothing here so you know how you get like a free refill on the glass at starbucks like if you have a you can go back up for like a dollar or something you can get it refilled right i went back inside and got in line again with my with like my empty cup and she was up there and she's like oh you and i was like yeah i kind of wanted to keep talking to you oh that's cute you went back around and into the drive-thru again or did you go in the store no i parked and went in oh my god that's a good move what was her reaction like she was kind of surprised but then like totally receptive she refilled the cup i

paid my dollar oh nine or whatever and then she wrote her name and number on the side of the cup. I paid my $1.09 or whatever. Then she wrote her name and number on the side of the cup. That's good. I was like, baristas are pretty good at faking it. She might fake it. If she gave you her number, bro, that's great. Yeah. Then she agreed to go out to get a drink.

Cute. How was drink so? What were you feeling going into this? Obviously, I'm calling because I heard from, so we're trying to piece this apart. But I felt like the date went really well and we were laughing. And I hope to think that I have like a good gauge on like, all right, that didn't go well. Why? Well, I won't hear from her. That's fine. OK, so what are you thinking? But I think I might have been like trying a little too hard or putting it on a little thick. I don't really know. I'm trying to like,

is there like a specific example that you could use to, so I, I went on this date like years ago and it ended up being a girl I dated where like the night kind of went crazy. You know, we did all this like fun stuff. And so I was like, I kind of wanted that to happen again. So I was like thinking of things we that to happen again so i was like thinking of things we could do after the date that were like kind of random and spontaneous so that you'd have like a memorable first date like right we were so crazy we did what yeah what

did you have in mind the first one i was like let's get an uber go to the airport and get the cheapest flight we can and go to wherever that is and then come back the next day what wait did you do it that sounds kind of awesome i want to do it on a first date i think you'd murder me yeah it's pretty bold i mean i'll give you that well like i get it if you're offense, I get it if you're going somewhere cool, you know, let's go to Hawaii, or let's go, you know, on the beach somewhere, but if you're just going the cheapest fly-by, you're going to go, like, right next door somewhere.

That is a good point. You're like a couple towns away. Let's go to a horrible city. I did preface this with saying, like, we might end up in the sixth, but to her defense, she was like, and I can't believe now I'm saying it out loud. She's like, I don't know you.

Yeah. Yeah. There we go. Smart girl. Okay. Hi, stranger. Shut you down. Were you able to get back on your feet after that?

I mean, kind of. I had a few other ideas, but I could tell that she was not really having it outside of the, mean she was like i just want to get to know you and have some drinks but then we i felt like i recovered like i took the message and we had drinks and kept going it's not like the night ended yeah how did the night end we probably had like three more drinks and we kind of had this flirty exchange there wasn't a kiss or anything and then i don't know i didn't think i shot myself in the foot that bad with with these things but i'm like it's the only thing i can think of that rubbed her the wrong way yeah and maybe you shouldn't have pushed him right like you you do one she shoots you down just leave it but you should have gotten into a small plane and just flew home cheap ticket that would have been nice but let's play a song we'll come back we'll call

tiffany for you and we're going to try and get you a second date update, okay? Right on. Thank you. All right, hold on. Second date update. You know, I've learned that women really appreciate a guy who puts in the effort to show that you're important to him. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, who wouldn't appreciate that?

But not too much effort, because that's trying. And trying comes off a little bit desperate. You need to try but not try that hard. There's a good balance. Like kind of try but in a way like you don't really care. Absolutely. If you do that, that shows her you really care. Yeah, that makes sense.

It's simple. Easy women. I figured you out. Yeah. Is that weird? Yeah. Does that seem weird to you? That's the formula. Listen, act like you don't care to show them you care.

But make it look like you gave effort, but not that much effort. Yes. So easy. So one of our listeners, Rob, figured out the formula too. But he's worried that maybe he tried too hard. Yeah. Because. Gotta get the formula right. Yeah. Because after the date, he was suggesting that maybe he tried too hard because we gotta get the formula right yeah because after the date he was suggesting that maybe they should go to the airport buy a

ticket to the cheapest place that they could and just make a day out of it see what happens and that was trying too hard maybe yeah yeah i did for a minute but i also felt like i made up for and i more just want to know what happened, can I even go back to the coffee shop to get coffee? Like, I feel like everything's weird now. No, see, that's trying too hard. That's going to come across desperate. Yeah, I don't want to go back. You have to find the middle, which is calling a radio station to call for you.

Oh, but he's not calling himself, so it shows he doesn't care that much. Yeah, he doesn't want to talk to her. We're going to do it for him. He doesn't have time to do that. Okay, you guys, I know you're frustrated with the formula that you can't figure out. It's only your fault, all right? Rob, we've got your back. We're going to help you with this, okay?

They're right. Women are not complicated at all. Yes, we're going to try for you. So here we go. I'm going to dial her number right now if you feel ready. Go for it. All right, here we go. Don't feel too ready.

Producer's throwing things at me to call. He's saying hurry up. Here we go. Hello? Hi, is this Tiffany? Yes. Hey, Tiffany. My name's Jeff from the radio show Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning, the show that you're kind of on right now.

So welcome. Yay. Yay. Wait, how did you get my number great question it's a good question yes we got it from somebody that you went out with recently his name's rob oh my god are you kidding no okay i heard a smile yeah that was a good reaction yeah that was good but this is part of something that we do call the second date update. That's where if our listeners go out with someone and afterwards, if their date isn't calling back, they can reach out to us for help to help them figure out the reason why. Seriously?

He had you call me about this? Yes. He really liked you. He thought you were awesome. And he just wants to figure out if he did something wrong. Unless that comes across weird to you, in which case we just did it out of our own accord because we're interesting and prying people. He doesn't care that much.

Wow, he's very committed. Not overly committed. He's just confused right now because he told us about your date, and it seemed like it was a pretty good time, and we spoke to Rob earlier, and he sounded like a really nice guy. So he's just wondering if he did something wrong to make you want to not call him back I mean so everyone can hear what I'm saying yeah but it's okay I mean he knows that he listens to the show he understands

how this all works like I mean he's just confused you're the one that gave him your number at Starbucks right yeah I mean he was super nice and cute and sweet and he didn't seem like creepy like some of the guys who come and get coffee. I'm curious, what did he tell you about our date? As far as the date goes, he said that you guys went out for drinks and you had a good time there chatting. And he did mention that maybe he came on a little bit strong when he was suggesting that you guys go to the airport and buy a plane ticket but i think he was just trying to be fun in the moment to show you like he knows how to have a good time all right yeah so that's pretty much all we know and then at the end of the night you guys went your separate ways no kiss or anything yes that is correct okay

so so he's honest that's a good guy. There you go. So what are we missing? Well, yeah. I mean, at the end of the date, I was probably going to go out with him again. We had a good time and it was like easy to talk to him and all of that. That's great. Okay. So you had every intention to call him back. Right.

Until about 24 hours later. What? What happened? So the bar that we went to was awesome. And I had actually never been there before. So I told one of my coworkers about it. And we decided to go there the next night and just grab some drinks after work. Oh, cool. and just started chatting it up with the bartender. And he was like, didn't I see you here last night? Or am I crazy? And I was like, no, you're not crazy. I was here actually just over in the corner on a date.

And, you know, he kind of asked like how it went. And I told him about it. That was fun. You know, we had a good time. But then he like had these crazy ideas of like, let's take a plane somewhere. Let's just like go to the airport and take a plane somewhere. And yeah, and I was like, well, you don't seem like Ted Bundy. So maybe it would be okay. But then I was like, I have to work the next day. It just feels like too much too soon.

So you're telling this to the bartender, you're recapping all this to the bartender? Yeah, exactly. Okay. And I was like, isn't that insane? And the bartender yeah exactly okay and i was like isn't that insane and the bartender was like actually that sounds really fun and like kind of romantic so uh we kind of started flirting a little bit and oh no this is not going where i think it's going um then my friend left, and then we left for the airport and took a plane. No, you didn't. With a bartender? Yeah. You jerk.

You stole Rob's idea? You said no to him and did it with another guy. Is it bad that I want to know how it went? Just tell me, was it fun or was it not fun? Because maybe you don't want to see him again again and you still want to go out with Rob. Oh, man. No, it was real fun. Oh, God. That makes it worse.

Brooke, why would you do that? Especially with Rob listening on the other line this entire time. No. Rob needs to know. Wait, he's listening? Yeah. Rob's been on the other line this whole time now he wants to talk to you if he hasn't hung up by now rob are you there are you me

so you like he got off his ship and then you guys ran off into the sunset. Well, flew off, flew off technically. But yeah, it's like somebody who wrote a joke and then someone stole the joke. Yeah. Well, I mean, it's not like you're the first person in the face of the planet who had an idea to take a plane. Like, I mean, I got gotta say that is a smooth move on the bartender's part to like steal that yeah he stole i'm not saying it's good but he like stole rob's idea and just went with it why did you say yes this is what i want to know why did you say

yes to the bartender but you didn't say yes to rob because you're obviously willing to go out and do that you keep asking these questions and Rob is not gonna like Do you want to know Rob well, I'm already down I might as well get kicked while I'm laying here so Please disregard that last statement. I mean, I get, Tiffany, that you had a fun time with the bartender, but you're not still with him, are you? Maybe. Oh, wow.

Hey, hey. Maybe means that there's an opening for you, Rob. Okay, bro, you are done. Maybe means she's sugarcoating it and she's been dating the bartender. No. Maybe the bartender's on a flight with

a different girl now going to another city. I mean, I gotta say, they don't have the best track record, bartenders, when it comes to... No, he wouldn't do that to me.

Yeah. That's what they all say. Oh, yeah. He's not rude. Stand-up guy, yeah. He's different. He wouldn't take someone's idea

and use it to somebody else. That's just rude. Okay, let's stop concentrating on him and concentrate on Rob. Oh, now you switch. Tiffany, I think at least he deserves an apology. There we go. I mean, I guess I'm sorry, but also you can't pick who you love. You just know when you know.

Oh, the bartender. Oh, my God. I'm getting so mad. It's fine. Everything is fine. It's fine, Rob. Oh, my God. I'm being so mad. It's fine. Everything is fine. It's fine, Rob. She loves him. Rob, it's not you.

He goes and buys the cheapest flight at the airport, and she loves him. Wow. Just twist the night, please. Rob, do you accept? Rob, first. Rob. Hold on. Rob, do you accept her apology?

I don't care. Okay. As you should not, my man. I don't see this conversation improving. Especially with Brooke talking. Yeah, I know. So let's just ask. Tiffany, we would love to send you and Rob out on another date, and we'll pay for it.

I mean, my friend thought he was cute. Maybe that would be an option. Hey! Okay. Is that an insult an option. Hey. Okay. Is that an insult or is that exciting, Rob? I feel like everyone's going to get a tax write-off for helping me out. You're a charity. Let's make Rob feel better.

And that makes me feel worse. Okay. Aw. Yeah. Well, we're sorry. Well, there it is, Rob. Trying too hard. Yep. The formula. it is, Rob. Trying too hard. The formula, man.

Trying too hard here, you gotta dial it back. But don't dial it back too much. Just enough. And then steal someone else's effort. Quick! Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. We're so done with New Year, New You. This year, it's more you on Bumble.

More of you shamelessly sending playlists, especially that one filled with show tunes. More of you finding Gemini's because you know you always like them. More of you dating with intention because you know what you want. And you know what? We love that for you. Someone else will too. Be more you know what? We love that for you. Someone else will, too. Be more you this year, and find them on Bumble.

Joel, the holidays are a blast, but the financial hangover, that can be a huge bummer. If you are out there and you're dreading the new statement email that reveals the massive balance that you may have racked up, well, you could use our help. That's right. I'm Joel. And I am Matt. And we're from the How To Money podcast.

Our show is all about helping you make sense of your personal finances so you can ditch your pesky credit card debt once and for all, make real progress on other crucial financial goals that you've got, and just feel more in control of your money in general. You know it.

For money advice without the judgment and jargon, listen to How To Money on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. conference. Better Offline's CES coverage won't be the usual rundown of the hottest gadgets or biggest trends, but an unvarnished look at what the tech industry plans to sell or do to you in 2025. I'll be joined by David Roth at Defector and the writer Edward Ongueso Jr. With guest appearances from Behind the Bastards' Robert Evans, It Could Happen Here's Gare Davis, and a few surprise guests throughout the show. Listen to Better Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever else you get your podcasts from.