Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - Second Date Update PODCAST: 3rd Date Ditchfest

Episode Date: March 28, 2018

A listener has no idea why she cant get a call back after going on MULTIPLE dates with a guy, you wont believe her reaction when she finds out why!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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didn't even think that her story qualifies for a second date update because she's been out on more than one date with this guy, which makes it even more confusing why he wouldn't be calling her back. Oh, yeah. Her name is Marie, and Marie, how are you? Hi, I'm great. How are you guys? Good. You definitely qualify for a second date update, even though you've been out with this guy a few times.

How many times have you gone out? Three. We've had three dates. Three dates with this guy, and now he's just disappeared on you. Exactly. Dude, that is so annoying. I don't know why people do that to each other. Yeah, you're telling me. All right, so tell us about how you met him. We met on a dating website, and we were actually talking on the website for, I would say, almost three weeks total.

So you guys talked for like three weeks online, and you've been on three dates. You're talking about over a month of knowing this guy, and then he just bailed on you. Yeah, exactly. Definitely over a month since we've been talking. Wow, that sucks. If you've gone on three dates, how, how far have you guys, this sounds weird, but how far have you guys gone physically? Brooke! Well, I'm just saying, like, I don't know what their relationship is.

Like, have they already spent the night at each other's house? Because three dates is so... That's okay. You know, actually, no, we haven't. The farthest we've gone, we've made out. Because that's it. All right. Well, I guess we don't need every single date date unless you feel like there's some details we need. But what happened the last time you guys hung out? Well, you know, the first dates were fine.

We basically went for coffee once and then dinner. And then for the third date, the last date that we had, we went out to a bar. So it was a little different environment, a little fun, a little noisy, loud. But he ended up bringing a friend. Did he tell you beforehand that he was going to bring a friend? No, which at first I thought, well, maybe we're that comfortable with each other already that it's okay. So then I actually ended up calling one of my girlfriends, and she came over. Oh, well, that's a good idea. So how did that go?

It turned out to be a great night. He ended up buying tequila shots and it was really fun. And to be honest with you, I was surprised, you know, I've dated quite a lot and I was, I was pleasantly surprised with where things were going and he's definitely a little quirky and has his ways. Um, but I like that. And you guys are practically married at this point. You've been kind of seeing each other for about a month now. You've met each other's friends. I mean, that's all there is left to do, right? I mean, I thought we were moving forward at least to something further than where we were at. Do you think there's a possibility that he was freaked out that maybe you were moving faster than him? I guess it could be a possibility. I mean, at this point, I really don't know what happened.

I mean, I don't think I came across as crazy at all. To me, we were both moving forward together, if that makes sense. You said that he had quirks that you liked. Yeah. A lot of times that's code for he's kind of weird. Is he a weird dude? You know, there's just little things about him that at first I kind of found it endearing. And he has his ways to talk little tangents, but then he gets excited about the things that he's talking about.

And he has a gap in his teeth, which is so cute. And it just makes him who he is, I think. Diastema is the technical term for that, if you were curious. What is it? Diastema. Is it really? That's the term for a gap in your teeth. Yeah, I've dated a lot of dental assistants.

That's true. If you ever need to talk about his tooth gap again, you can use the doctor's term for it if you want. Well, you know, that's good to know. I would love to talk about it with him if he will ever call me back or speak to me again. So what was the last thing that he said to you? So it's been eight days since our last date when we were at the bar. And I've actually tried to call him a few times.

I've texted him a bunch and I've gotten one response. And it had one word and it just said, sorry. That's all I got. Did you respond to the sorry? Yeah, I did. and it had one word, and it just said, sorry. Ooh. That's all I got. Did you respond to the sorry? Yeah, I did. I wrote back, well, what the hell do you mean? And I haven't gotten any response from that.

So are you hoping, I mean, because that sounds like a breakup to me. I mean, like, you don't have to have the breakup talk because you only went on three dates, but a sorry text means I'm done. Yeah, I mean, at this point, I'd at least like an explanation. You know, I feel like I deserve one. You know, we've had this background together for over a month now, and we've been out three times. And then, you know, to not even give me anything of just sorry, I'm just, it's upsetting. I don't know. I don't even know why. Did you stalk him online yet? Is his dating profile still up?

Yeah, no, I mean, it's all still there. It's all normal. He hasn't changed anything. Okay, well, we'll play a song, come back, call him, and get your second date update, all right? Great. Or third date update, or whatever you want to call it. But we'll get it right after this. Moving 92.5. Brooke and Jubal in the Morning. Second Date Update. Today's Second Date Update is a serious

one because the girl on the phone was left at the altar. What? That's right. It's a very, very sad story. Oh my gosh. Way more in depth than any of our other Second Date Updates. Is she pregnant too?

She might be. We don't know. She said that she hasn't hooked up with the guy yet in that way, but weirder things have happened. She was basically married to this guy. They've been dating for about a month now, and they've gone out on three dates in that time. The last time they saw each other, they had fun. They partied with a few friends. Then he didn't text her back. She didn't hear from him for a little while, kept texting him.

And he finally just sent her one text that said, sorry. And that's the last she's heard from him. Marie, are you ready to call your fiance? It wasn't that serious. It really wasn't. But yes, I'm ready. I'm ready. Are you mad at him right now? Are you angry with this dude for just ghosting on you, basically? I mean, I don't want to be angry at him, but I am, and I'm mostly confused. I really just want some answers. Depending on his answer, I guess you can judge if you're angry or not. Yeah. Good point.

All right. I'm going to dial his phone number right now and see why he stopped calling you after three dates. Here we go. Hello? Hi, I was looking for Paul. Yeah, that's me. Hey, Paul, what's up? How are you? This is Jubal from Brook and Jubal in the Morning.

It's a radio show. Okay. What do you want? I'm calling you because we recently got an email about you from one of our listeners. Her name is Marie. Okay. She asked if we could get you on the phone and find out why you stopped calling her. It's a segment that we do on our show called The Second Date Update. Do you have a few minutes to tell us why you're not talking to Marie anymore?

I mean, I don't know what she's told you or whatever, but I mean, I've kind of already sent her a text like saying sorry, and I just, I don't know. Yeah, well, she told us about the text, but she doesn't know why because you never gave her an explanation, so she's just more curious than anything. Honestly, I don't think i really want to tell her um yeah but paul hey paul have you ever gone out with a girl that you liked a lot

and then she just stopped talking to you i mean yeah but yeah so doesn't it kind of suck when you don't know why yeah i just i don't know if if i can tell her um i don't know if I can tell her. I don't know how to really tell her. The thing is, you're not telling her right now. You're telling me. I mean, I don't know, man. But you said you talked to her, so you're probably just going to repeat what I told you. I don't know.

You can pick and choose information. Why don't you be straight with us, and then we'll decide what she needs to know. Yeah. Was she moving too fast? That's what we were thinking. Yeah. Like, maybe she was ahead of you? No. I mean, don't get me wrong.

It was not, it's nothing that she did, okay? It wasn't her fault at all. It was all on me, okay? And this is 100% all to do with me. Okay, well, then if it's your fault why don't you just tell us what happened i mean if it's not anything that's going to embarrass her the thing is is like it was just it was just bad okay like i kind of want to like move on from it you know just forget like it ever happened it what it is what it is kind of thing just move on there was like what

was so bad that's, that's weird. Did she tell you about the last day that we had when we went to the bar? She didn't tell us much. She just said you hung out at a bar with some friends. Yeah, well, all right. Well, I was pretty drunk because we were there with friends drinking a lot. I drank probably way more than I should have. But we were having a good time, you know?

And, you know, that's where I messed up. All right. Well, my mind automatically goes to you were there with friends. Did you mess around with one of her friends or something drunk? I mean, all right. That sounds like a yes. That sounds like a big yes to me, Paul. You dirty dog.

All right. Well, let me just explain, okay? So I don't don't know why like we're drinking like we're 21 again and so i'm coming back from the bathroom and i pass her friend we start talking in the hallway i don't even remember like how we got to the point but we start making out and i like in like mid making out like i sober up like in like mid make out, like I sober up like instantly, like that moment of clarity, like what the hell are you doing kind of thing. And at that point I was like, whoa, I got to get out of here. Like this is not how I am. This is not who I am.

Like, so I like called my Uber and I got the hell out of there. Like pretty much at that point. All right. That's understandable. And what a crappy friend she has. It's making, pretty much at that point. All right. That's understandable. And what a crappy friend she has that's making out with some guy that she's crushing on. Like, that sucks. Well, I mean, I don't want to put it on her. I mean, like, literally, I know how to drink,

and that was not how you're supposed to drink, like, throughout the night. So, like, I take a lot of blame for that. So you're kind of taking responsibility, but then you're kind of blaming alcohol You can blame it on the goose right now All right, so well that's understandable then why you'd be like it does it suck though I mean it sounds like you guys were having a fun time dating Does it suck that you made this mistake and now you don't feel like you can talk to her? Totally dude. I, we hit it off.

It was like, we had conversations that, like, probably some married people don't have, so it really sucks. But at this point, like, I don't know how, one, she'll take it, two, how to bring it up, and then, like, three, how she'll feel, like, for the rest of the relationship.

Right. I've got some ideas on how you can bring it up to her. Oh, no, too. I actually have a really good idea. Okay. I think you should just talk to her because she's actually on the other line listening to this phone call.

What? Yeah. Marie? Hi. Hey. I don't even know what to say. I mean, did this seriously happen? I mean, this is totally not how I wanted to tell you or even tell you really because I don't really know how to bring it up.

Like, this is why I just kind of texted sorry. I was going to text you, like, this page and a half long text. And I was like, well, that's weird. So I didn't text it. And then, I don't know. I'm sorry. that's weird so I I didn't text it and then I don't know I'm sorry I I'm just I'm so disappointed I mean me too I mean right now I feel like even more so because now you're finding out this way and like that's not who I am I I can't believe my friend did that I mean she hasn't said anything to me yeah me. Yeah, I don't want you to blame her.

I mean, like, I'm taking responsibility for it, like, I guess. I guess? Well, let me just say this, like, it totally wasn't emotional at that point because there was no connection. Like, when I got that moment of clarity,

I was like, what the f*** is going on? And it was just once? yeah like that's it i i don't even know her name to be honest with you and i don't really care to because like i said it's not it wasn't emotional at that point it was like 100 physical i mean i mean i don't even i don't even think you made out with me that night maria it's bad no matter, but at least he's kind of a stand-up guy about it. I mean, a lot of guys would do this

and then they would continue to talk to you. They'd probably text your friend and be like, hey, don't mention what happened. At least he was a big enough man to be like, I screwed up

and now I shouldn't continue this relationship. But it's also like the biggest red flag ever. I mean, if he's already... Yeah. If he's already... How are you going to trust him?

I mean, not that he's cheated on you because you haven't had that guy's talk yet, but if even in the beginning he's already making Yeah. How are you going to trust him? I mean, not that he's cheating on you because you haven't had that guy's talk yet, but if even in the beginning he's already making out with other chicks while you're there, I don't know. But he said he's never done that. It's not like him. Yeah. But the thing is, Marie, I really like you, okay?

I think we had a really good connection, and I think we still do. I just – Yeah. Is there any way you can forgive me? I don't know what I can do to maybe that, you know, you could forgive me for, you know? I can't believe that my friend didn't even think that she needed to tell me. I mean, at least you're telling me. She was just going to keep it a secret.

That's not a good friend. Yeah, that definitely isn't. Yeah, but it's, he was pressured into telling you and didn't even realize he was telling you. He was never going to talk to you again, actually. Would that have really been the situation where you just thought you never wanted to talk to me again? Like I said, the when I got away kind of situation. But I don't know. It's been eating me up inside.

So I probably would have ended up calling you, I don't know, maybe tomorrow or the next day. Eventually, I would have called you. That's kind of sweet. That's kind of sweet? It clearly upset him so much that he knew he did something wrong, and there was a reason why he was so upset by it and then had to just leave. I mean, it just shows how much he cares. What? Yeah, I thought we had a really good connection, you know,

and it was... Yeah, I agree. We connected on so many levels, so... Does this happen? I don't... I don't know. I don't know why I have such a hard time believing you, Paul. I'm so down the middle.

I feel like you're just feeding her lines at this point. Would you forgive her if she made out with one of your friends that night? I would have to know the situation. i'd have to know all the information you know like me personally this situation it was only physical my mind you know i was with marie that night i was not with her friend i couldn't't emotionally kiss you then afterwards because I knew what I just did. So, I mean, really, I did it for you. Oh my god. You did not.

I mean, some things of the night make more sense now. And you did say that you're sorry. Well, I think this is a perfect point to ask. Hey, Paul, would you like to go out on a second date with Marie? We will pay for it. Yeah, absolutely. I would love to.

Marie, would you be willing to give Paul another shot? Yeah, I really would. Don't give him another shot after this one, though. That will never happen again, okay, Marie? I can promise you that. You really promise? Like 110% I promise.

Well, congratulations, you guys. So finally a successful second date. We haven't had a couple go out on a second date in a while. We haven't, you're right. I guess this is like a fourth date for you guys because you've been out on three dates. Yeah, this will be number four, yeah. Yeah, you know, Paul, I'm a forgiving and understanding person, and I'm excited to go out with you again.

You know, I've got to be honest, I don't think that I'm going to be talking to my friend anymore. See, I don't need her in my life anymore. I mean, I fully support that. I think that any friend that would do that to you is not a true friend. I agree. Well, I'm glad this worked out. And whoever said the phrase, you can't have your cake and eat it too,

was it true? We just learned that in a second date update. Text in at 78592 says, that's quite deplorable, promising you won't cheat again after a third date. Read that text. I'm going to say, good job,

texter, by using the most complicated word any texter has ever used. Deplorable. Hey, cool. Yeah. People with most complicated word any texter has ever used. Deplorable. Hey, cool. Fancy. People with texters are like, they stupid idiot. It's a lot of syllables. Talking about today's second date update. If you missed it, Marie wanted to call Paul.

They've actually been out on three dates. And the last date was a group date with her friends and Paul admitted that he wasn't calling her back because he drank too much and made out with one of Marie's friends by the bathroom He admitted it and then Marie suggests then Paul agrees that they should never speak to that friend again Because she's a bad person Telling Marie it wasn't Paul's fault. It was her friend's fault

Probably a relief to her honestly because she's been trying to hide that for a while now. Like, oh, finally. So now her and Paul can continue on in their relationship and screw that friend. Perfect. Remember, if you want to do a second date update, all you have to do is email the show, and we will call the person that made out with your friend. Move in 92.5. Ugh, we're so done with new year, new you.

This year, it's more you on Bumble. More of you shamelessly sending playlists, especially that one filled with show tunes. More of you finding Gemini's because you know you always like them. More of you dating with intention because you know what you want. And you know what? We love that for you. Someone else will too. Be more you this year and find them on Bumble.

Joel, the holidays are a blast, but the financial hangover, that can be a huge bummer. If you are out there and you're dreading the new statement email that reveals the massive balance that you may have racked up, well, you could use our help. That's right. I'm Joel. And I am Matt. And we're from the How To Money podcast. Our show is all about helping you make sense of your personal finances so you can ditch your pesky credit card debt once and for all, make real progress on other crucial financial goals that you've got, and just feel more in control of your money in general. You know it. For money advice without the judgment and jargon, listen to How To Money on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Ed Zittron, host of the Better Offline podcast.

And this January, we're going to go on the road to beautiful Las Vegas, Nevada, to cover the Consumer Electronics Show, tech's biggest conference. Better Offline CES coverage won't be the usual rundown of the hottest gadgets or biggest trends, but an unvarnished look at what the tech industry plans to sell or do to you in 2025. I'll be joined by David Roth of Defector and the writer Edward Ongueso Jr. With guest appearances from Behind the Bastards Robert Evans, It Could Happen Here's Gare Davis, and a few surprise guests throughout the show. Listen to Better Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever else you get your podcasts from.