Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - Second Date Update PODCAST: Always Kiss on the First Date

Episode Date: April 13, 2016

Jubal NORMALLY isn't a big fan of using one-liners (especially when you're already out on the date). But one of our listeners may have changed Jubal's mind. All because of the line HE used on a girl. Unfortunately, it may have cost him a shot at Date number Two. We'll find out what happened in the Second Date Update.(Image Courtesy: Tania Saiz. Creative Commons)See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I just have one question for the guy who's on the phone for a second date update today. Nicholas, how are you? I'm well. How are you guys? My question to you is, why aren't you dating somebody your own age? Why are you dating senior citizens? Oh, no. Oh, come on. What are you talking about? Well, from your email, it says that you took your date out on a tour of a chocolate factory.

I figured that's somewhere where you'd take, like, someone in their early 80s or a 4-year-old. So I figured, I was assuming you're not dating, like, young children, I hope. And so I was guessing that you're dating somebody who's getting on in years. Is that true? No, it's not. So your date was your age? Yeah. And I'll have you know, we did a chocolate tour at Theo

when I was dating my husband, and look how it turned out. Yeah, look how it turned out. The only people I know that still actually read a newspaper. In other words, you're not dating 90-year-olds, are you, Nicholas? No. No, I'm not. All right. Well, tell us a little bit about the girl that you want us to call today.

We already know that you took her on a tour of a chocolate factory. Was that fun? We had a great time. Okay. But we met when we were volunteering at a charity event. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. And, you know, I don't do it all the time, but with the holidays coming up, I thought it was a nice thing to do. Nicholas was volunteering at our senior citizen event. Yeah. And, you know, I don't do it all the time, but with the holidays coming up, I thought it was a nice thing to do.

Nicholas was volunteering at our senior citizen. Yeah. Charity event. Yeah, we did it. Cleaning up bedpans, you know. So you guys met at a charity event. Did you ask her out the same day that you met her? Yeah, I did.

And, you know, she's really energetic and she made the event a lot more fun. So I thought, well, I'd like to spend more time with her. So I just asked her and she said, yeah. Okay. So you asked her out and you guys went to the chocolate factory. What was your main selling point there? Well, before we went, I read that chocolate was an

aphrodisiac. So... Not that I was going to get fresh or anything. You didn't actually tell her that, did you? Yeah, please. No, what do you think? I got a great date. We're going to get in fresh or anything. You didn't actually tell her that, did you? Yeah, please. No, what do you think? Yeah, what do you think? Hey, I got a great date. We're going to go to this chocolate factory because I heard chocolate makes people horny.

Yeah, wink, wink. You want to go there? Yeah, that's a great pickup line. Okay, so you kept the aphrodisiac part to yourself, but she seemed to enjoy herself at the chocolate factory? Yeah, we saw the process. And at the end, they let you tamp all the chocolates that are there. It seemed like she was having a great time and I could see us hanging out more.

And then when we walked out of her car when we were leaving, I made a pretty bold move and that might be why she's not calling me back. What did you do? Did the tour excite you like you thought it would? I mean, you actually it would and then you actually showed her how excited

you were? No. When we were walking out, I grabbed her hand, I spun her around and kissed her and she seemed shocked by that. But I said, I have a rule that I always kiss on the first date, but only if the girl's worth it and you're worth it.

Nice line. Oh, that's a lame line. You don't like that line? No, that's stupid. I kind of like that line. And it makes you sound like you kiss every girl on the first date. But only if she's worth it. I don't.

I really don't. To me, it sounds the opposite, that you don't kiss every girl on the first date. I guess you know what? Your line would have worked on me. You're not really my target audience. Hey, well, maybe you're dating the wrong kind of people. So you spun her around, you kissed her, and you gave her that line, and did she react in a positive way, or did she seem annoyed by that?

Well, I asked her if we could hang out again, and she said yeah. She seemed really excited by it. What kind of kiss was this? Was this like a peck type of kiss, or was this full-on, like, last in a couple seconds? It was a big romantic kiss. It was like a movie kiss. I wanted her to remember it so I could get a second date out of it. Okay, and she agreed to hang out again.

How long has it been since you heard from her then? Well, I've texted her and I've emailed her, but it's been three days. You said you may think that you maybe went too far with the kiss. Did she act, like, flustered, you know, giggly? What was her attitude afterwards? She was giggly. She was blushing a little bit, but it didn't seem, you know, that didn't seem not normal.

Yeah, I think she didn't like it. She wouldn't have told you that you guys would be going out again. She probably would have called the cops on you right then and there for harassing her. So she obviously wasn't that thrown off by your kiss. What do you think it is, then? Why do you think she doesn't want to call you back? Maybe she didn't like the chocolates? I don't know.

She doesn't have any known chocolate allergy that you're aware of, right? I mean, that's the only thing I can think of. She's been in the hospital for a week straight for chocolate allergy. All right. Well, we'll play a song, come back, call her, get her on the phone and get your second date update, okay? Awesome, thank you.

All right, and by the way, I'm still head over heels about that line that you used. Oh, gosh. Use it all you want. I want you to use it on me, Nick, if this second date doesn't work out for you.

All right, hang on. Moving 92.5. Brooke and Jubal in the Morning. Second date update. All right, Nick, here we go. You ready to call Rachel and see why she isn't getting back to you? Yeah, I am. You know what?

I was thinking about it. And your whole dating experience proves to me that you just cannot please any woman out there, okay? Either you don't kiss them on a first date and they think that you're a puss, right? Or you do kiss them on a first date and they think that you're too forward. That's why, Nick, I don't even think we should do the second date. I think you need

to start dating dudes. And me and you need to go out. Hey, that line that he had on her really worked with me, man. What do you think? Let's just blow this whole second date thing off and you and I go out. Yeah, I'm not feeling it, man. All right, well.

She is cool. Now I'm let down. All right, if you're just tuning in for the second date update, Nick wants us to call a girl named Rachel. They went to a chocolate factory, had a tour, enjoyed themselves. At the end of the date, though, what he thinks might have gone wrong is he grabbed her while they were walking in the car, just turned her around and kissed her and used his little patented line on her. What's that line again, Nick?

I have a rule that I always kiss on the first date, but only if she's worth it. But only if she's worth it. And then you do the shooter hands at her. You're worth it. Yeah, I just want to put... I don't do that. I just want to put that one out there. Oh, okay. No, shoot her hands. Just say it.

He's texted her a couple times. Hasn't heard anything back. All right, man. I'm going to dial the phone over right now, see if we can get her on the phone, and find out if that's what you did wrong, okay? Thank you. Okay, here we go.

Hello? Hi, can I speak to Rachel, please? Yeah, this is she. Hey, Rachel, how are you? This is Jubal from Brook and Jubal in the Morning. How you doing? Fine. How are you?

I'm good. Thank you for asking. I'm calling because you recently went out on a date with a listener of ours and he liked you a lot, but you haven't been returning any of his text messages or phone calls. So he emailed and asked if we could call you and find out if something went wrong on your date. Okay. His name is Nicholas. Yeah, I know Nicholas. You know Nicholas. Okay. Well, we talked to Nick about your date. He told us that you went to the chocolate factory and all that good stuff, and he also says that he's been trying to get a hold of you, but you're not responding to anything.

Is there a reason? Why are you just busy? Listen, I'm at work, and I want to be really nice about this, so let me just say this. Nicholas seems like a really, really nice guy, and actually the chocolate factory was a really lovely thing to do. But all throughout the time that we were there, he just kept saying stuff like, oh, my ex-wife would never do this, and she would never enjoy it the way you've enjoyed it today, and that kind of thing. He talked about his ex-wife the whole time no no no yeah pretty much like every every other thing that we did he was like oh she would never have tried this you're so much that is so annoying rachel i know you're at work thank you very much for you know yeah talking to us and he's not a bad guy i i just it was kind of weird and

creepy that he kept bringing her up i had an ex-girlfriend like that and one time we were at the drive-thru at taco bell and she's like this taco bell reminds me of greg and i was like what what so i understand exactly how annoying that could be especially on a first date rachel okay so when i talk to him again you want me to let him know that, hey, maybe don't talk about your ex-wife so much on a first date? Yeah, and then here's the other thing. And again, super nice guy, but I got home, like he dropped me off. It was very sweet. And within like minutes, there was an email that he sent me saying, oh my God, I had such a wonderful time, which is fine.

But then he started to list, like, all these different things that he had already looked up that he wanted us to try and do together. So he was already planning the second date. He planned out the next six months and just went totally overboard with what he sent me in the email. So he talked about his ex-wife the whole time, and then he was a little too fast on just like, hey, man, we can do this and this and this and this, all things that my ex-wife didn't want to do. We can do all that. That's what he was like? Basically, yeah.

And again, I don't want him to feel like I'm trying to slight him or snub him. I just think that he needs to pull it back a little bit, not seem quite so eager. It just turned me off. Nice guy. I just don't want to go out with him again. Thank you, Rachel. Appreciate you being honest with us.

Yeah. And thank you for being honest with him, too, because he's actually on the other line and heard everything that you just said. Are you serious? Yeah, he is serious. Yes, I am. Hi, Rachel is serious. Yes, I am. Hi, Rachel. Hi. You were talking about my ex-wife that much?

Yeah, you really were. I'm sorry. I didn't realize I was. But honestly, everything, she wouldn't have done any of that. And I thought it was so great. No, no. Nicholas, stop. You're talking. no okay i understand what you're saying but kind of by doing that you're talking about her again maybe just explain to rachel that you cannot talk about her in the future if rachel wanted

to give you another shot exactly yeah no i just take it what he said look you're really really sweet i just think maybe you need to talk to someone about whatever feelings you haven't resolved over your ex-wife. It just, it can't be with me, though. Nicholas, is the divorce recent? Is that why you're still so stuck on it?

It was like 14 months ago. I'm not stuck on it. You brought it up on the first date. And you just brought it up a second ago. I feel like, Nicholas, maybe you're not ready to be dating. It's okay. I kind of agree with them, Nicholas. I think that maybe you need to, like, take some more time to get over this

because anyone who talks about their ex-wife throughout an entire date and then sends an email to someone saying, like, there's 3,000 things I want to do with you in the next two weeks that's just kind of a bit much really and i i'm sorry you guys i'm trying so hard not to be mean because he's a nice guy i just really i don't want to go out with him again yeah wait can you just stop saying you don't want to go out with me again because i've heard like four times now see nicholas it's not really fun to hear about something over and over and over again yeah but i don't to hear about something over and over and over again. Yeah, but I don't think I was going over and over and over again.

I don't recall that. And I didn't email you 3,000 things. I emailed you three things with 10 possible other things to do if those three things didn't work out. You're very organized, Nicholas. I'll give you that. I mean, I think that part's kind of sweet. Can't you say he was just excited about seeing you again? No.

I just think it was a little bit too much, and I just, I don't want to go out with you again. Sorry. Stop saying that. Poor Nicholas. I know, Rachel, you've already answered my question, but I have to ask it anyway. Would you go out with Nicholas again? We'll pay for a second. Don't ask her that.

She's not upset. Poor Nicholas. I just wanted to make sure, Nick. Yeah, I think we've already covered the bases. We're all pretty sure that she doesn't want to go out with him. I haven't heard it from her yet, or have I not been paying attention? Come on, Jubal. So no date with Rachel, right?

Nope. At least it wasn't the kiss that did you in. At least Jubal wants to go on a date with me. Yeah, Jubal, you free tomorrow? Send him 30 date possibilities and he'll think about it. Broken Jubal in the morning. We're so done with New Year, New You. This year, it's more you on Bumble.

More of you shamelessly sending playlists, especially that one filled with show tunes. More of you finding Gemini's because you know you always like them. More of you dating with intention because you know what you want. And you know what? We love that for you. Someone else will too. Be more you this year and find them on Bumble. Joel, the holidays are a blast, but the financial hangover, that can be a huge bummer. If you are out there and you're dreading the new statement email that reveals the massive

balance that you may have racked up, well, you could use our help. That's right. I'm Joel. And I am Matt. And we're from the How To Money podcast. Our show is all about helping you make sense of your personal finances so you can ditch your pesky credit card debt once and for all, make real progress on other crucial financial goals that you've got, and just feel more in control of your money in general. You know it. For money advice without the judgment and jargon,

listen to How To Money on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Ed Zitron, host of the Better Offline podcast. And this January, we're going to go on the road to beautiful Las Vegas, Nevada, to cover the Consumer Electronics Show, tech's biggest conference. Better Offline CES coverage won't be the usual rundown of the hottest gadgets or biggest trends, but an unvarnished look at what the tech industry plans to sell or do to you in 2025. I'll be joined by David Roth of Defector and the writer Edward Ongueso Jr. With guest appearances from Behind the Bastards' Robert Evans, It Could Happen Here's Gare Davis, and a few surprise guests throughout the show.

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