Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - Second Date Update PODCAST: Awkward Kidsome
Episode Date: July 21, 2014EVERYTHING CHANGED the second Chuck told his date (Kim) that he has a SON... but they had great chemistry BEFORE that and Chuck thinks he deserves a second shot! What's REALLY bugging Kim about Chuck?... We'll find out in today's weird Second Date Update!(Image Courtesy: David Howard. Creative Commons)See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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It's always tough when you're single and you have a kid,
trying to figure out when the proper time is to drop that on a person you're dating.
I don't have a kid, i think for the world yes but if i did i would think the best time would be on a first date when they come to your house
to pick you up no oh just like show them the kid introduce them you're just like hey coming along
you're buying us both dinner right and then you introduce the kid like hey this is your new mommy
right that's the best time to do it because they're kind of roped in at that point they're not gonna be a jerk and tell the kid no they're not that was kind of the issue that chuck had
on his first date with a girl named kim he emailed us and wants us to call kim today
hey chuck how you doing hey what's up guys not much chuck thanks for the email thank you so
chuck are you the father or was the date the mother? Who has the kid?
I am the father.
You are the father.
I am the father.
That's Maury.
And apparently, according to your email, when you told this girl that you had a kid,
she didn't react very well to it.
And you think that's the reason she's not calling you back today?
I think so, yeah.
It's got to be.
All right.
First of all, tell us a little bit about Kim.
She was awesome.
We met online.
She had a great profile.
Great sense of humor.
She was just like, I mean, she was awesome.
So you don't put online that you have a kid or anything else?
I did not put that on my profile, no.
Why?
I guess because a lot of the dates that I go on, they're usually just one date, first date, and that's it.
Because it usually doesn't click.
But with Kim, it was different.
Just right off the bat, it was just sort of like we really clicked and thought that it
was important to tell her.
When and how did you break the kid news to her, Chuck?
As we were walking downtown, I felt the moment.
It was kind of a heavy moment, and I was just like, you know, I really like you, Kim, and
I'd like to go on another date, but I have to tell you, you know, right off the bat that I do have a six-year-old boy.
And, you know, it was more like I wanted her to know about me, you know, just a little bit more.
Right.
You said it like that, though, like, hey, I like you and I want to go out again,
so I'm going to tell you I have a kid.
That's kind of an awkward way to say it.
I think it's kind of sweet.
Like, he's saying he's complimenting her.
He's showing interest. He's showing vulnerability. I don't think it's kind of sweet. Like he's saying, he's complimenting her. He's showing interest. He's showing vulnerability.
I don't think it's bad
at all. I just think any first date
where you're like, I like you a lot
is going to scare people away.
I think it's sweet. I mean, it would have been really great
if she would have had a positive reaction to it.
But it was like
it kind of hit her and then her eyes just went to the ground
and she didn't say anything for a couple minutes.
So you said, hey, I have a kid actually and she went ew sort of a non-verbal
that's what you felt kind of yeah i'm not saying those words but yeah has this happened to you
before yeah i will say chuck that having online, sometimes it's just the fact that girls feel like you hid something from them or you deceived them on your profile.
It's not necessarily the information.
Did you ask her what she thought about kids?
Not really.
We didn't really get into it.
It's pretty kind of obvious what she thinks about kids.
If you bring up the fact that you have a kid and she just stops talking to you on your date, I think it's a lot of information to process.
Kind of telling right there.
So if you think you know why she's not
calling you back, you're pretty sure it's the fact that you have a
kid. What do you hope to get out of
a second date update?
I guess it's more like just to see
what she thought about it because she never really
expressed what she thought. She never really told me
what she thought about it. It was just kind of like
she was busy. She had to check her
schedule. How long ago was this date. It was just kind of like she was busy. She had to check her schedule. How long ago
was this date? It was last week.
Last week. So it's been a week since you heard from her.
How many times have you tried to call her?
Just a couple.
That usually means more.
Yeah, right? And did she
say that she wants to go out again?
She said, we'll see.
Oh, God. That's what I say when I say no.
That's what parents say to their kids when they're not going to get something.
So you said, hey, I'd like to go out again.
She said, we'll see about that.
Yeah.
Oh, no.
Because I was like, you know, there's something wrong.
She kind of deflects.
She's like, no, nothing's wrong.
And she just kind of said, I got to check my schedule, you know.
And then that was it.
Did you give her like a kiss or a hug or anything at the end of the date?
Was there any affection at all?
No.
She got into her car and she drove away.
Oh, man.
That's worse.
Yeah, it sounds like you just got shut down.
All right, man.
We're going to play a song.
Come back.
Call her and get your second date update, okay?
Okay, cool.
Thanks, guys.
All right, man.
Hang on.
Moving 92.5.
Brooke and Jubal in the mornings second date update today's second date
update seems pretty clear-cut as to why chuck who's on the phone with us right now is not getting a
call back from kim chuck went out with a girl named kimmy met online he told her during the
date that he has a six-year-old son after After he told her that, she got very cold and awkward
and ended the date by saying,
we'll see, we'll go out again.
I'm kind of busy.
So anyway, have a good one.
Not even a high five, just hopped in the car and took off.
So Chuck is pretty sure that's the reason
that she's not calling him back.
Before we call her and see if we can get her on the phone, Chuck,
I didn't really get a clear answer from you.
What you hope to do here. Do you hope to change her
mind if she doesn't like kids?
I mean, yeah. I'm hoping
that she can really appreciate the fact that I did
like her and I had a really great time on the date
and I'm kind of hoping that if it was
the kid, which I'm not 100% sure of,
I'm hoping that maybe she can work through
that with me if she's willing to work through it.
Alright. That's a lot to get a person to change on a phone call, like trying to get them to switch religion or...
Right.
And do you have the child full-time?
Yeah.
Okay.
This is not going to go well.
It would be a lot easier to sell if you didn't have it all the time.
It?
Come on, you guys.
He didn't father even refer to it as an it at some point, which is horrible.
What's your kid's name, Chuck?
Henry.
Henry.
Henry.
That's a nice name.
Good old Hank.
Good old Hank.
The little Hank the relationship ruiner.
All right.
Poor Henry.
Don't ever listen to this, Henry.
All right.
We're going to give her a call right now, see if we can get her on the phone, and hopefully
get you a second date.
Really?
I just hope that she really appreciates that I went through all this trouble.
I mean, I wrote a long email to you guys.
We're doing this on the radio.
I hope that she understands.
Like, I really do like her.
All right.
Well, we'll give her a call here and see if that works.
Okay.
Hello?
Hi, is Kim there?
Yeah, this is Kim.
Hey, Kim, how are you?
This is Jubal from Brook and Jubal in the Morning, the radio show.
Okay.
And I'm just calling you because I want to talk to you about something if you have a moment.
I'm sorry.
I have no idea who you are.
I know.
I can tell.
Host a radio show.
We do a segment on that show called Second Date Update.
You recently went out with one of our listeners.
He liked you so much that he sent a very long email into the show about your date and how much he wants to see you again.
Okay.
You apparently ended your date with him, not even saying that you wanted to go out again just
by going uh we'll see maybe we can hang out it's always positive know who i'm talking about
yeah i think so his name is chuck yeah can we talk about chuck for a minute
uh i'd really rather not to be honest with you really Really? I mean, you know, that's kind of my personal business.
Right.
You don't have to air anything else about yourself.
Like, we just want to know
if Chuck did something wrong on your date.
He feels like the fact
that he has a kid turns you off.
Is that what did it?
Well,
yeah, to be honest with you, yes.
Is it because he lied on his profile,
or is it because you don't like children,
or don't want your own children, I guess I should say?
It's that he has a kid.
That's the bottom line.
So you just don't like kids, which, hey, by the way, I support.
No.
No, that's, I mean, I like kids.
Kids are great.
I have a kid.
Oh, wait, what?
You have a kid?
Yes. What? Wait, does he know that you have a kid. Oh, wait. What? You have a kid? Yes.
What? Wait, does he know that you have a kid?
Did you tell him?
No, he did not. You didn't tell him that you have a kid, too?
And you withheld that information from your
online dating profile, I'm guessing?
Yeah, which is one of the reasons
why I don't fault him for that.
So you don't want to see him again
because he has a kid?
Because you have a kid?
Yeah, I'm not interested in beginning a relationship with anybody who has kids.
I don't want any more children.
I mean, I don't know if you guys have kids, but it's incredibly difficult.
And I have my hands full, and that's my prerogative.
Wow.
I didn't see that coming at all, Kim.
I just thought you were going to be completely against kids.
Yeah, I mean, I like kids.
I don't want to have to raise anybody else's kids
or be intimately involved in anyone else's children's lives.
You don't want, like, an instant family of four.
Yeah, no, none of that, like, pretty bunch situation.
I don't want that.
But, Kim, don't you think, you think dating someone who also has a child,
maybe you could relate more to them?
They would be more understanding of your trials and tribulations through life?
Well, yeah.
I mean, absolutely, which is why I would be happy to be his friend,
but it's my perspective that I don't want a romantic relationship with somebody like that.
What about, and we'll get you off the phone here in a minute,
I appreciate you spending some time with us and talking to us about this why
though wouldn't you just say to him then like hey i have a kid too that's cool and then you can blow
him off however you want but why not say anything about the fact that you have a kid the date went
well i mean i i really did like him i got the feeling he liked me and i was pretty sure that
if i told him i had a kid that would open the door to more negotiation about a second date and like it's a hard line with me
as much as i liked him i'm not interested so absolutely no chance of him going out with you
again no not unless he gets rid of the kid maybe, my possibility, Kim. I'm looking up her adoption. That's terrible.
Kim, thank you for your time.
I appreciate it.
Okay.
I do also have to let you know that Chuck is actually on the phone
and heard everything that you just said.
Really?
Yes.
I have to say, I am speechless right now.
We all are.
So what are you, just looking? Single, no kid guys?
Yeah, exactly.
Like I said, I have enough to handle on my own.
And that's just something I've decided for me and my son.
That's what I'm looking for.
And when you have a kid, they come first.
And to me, that is a priority for the two of us.
I'm so shy.
I had to do something else, Kim.
I had to have something in
my teeth or something i don't really i hope you can understand where i'm coming from kim is there
any way we can get you to waver on on it just a little bit and give chuck a second date just
make an exception to your rule one time no have you ever dated a guy with a kid and it just didn't
work out no but i mean i am one of those people where I like my own kid, but I don't really like to be around anyone else.
Hey, Kim, if we take Kim and Chuck, if we take the kids out of this whole thing, did you like Chuck other than that?
Yeah, totally.
Okay, so you had a great time.
You liked him a lot.
The only reason is that he has a kid and you have a kid and you don't want to get into a relationship with someone with a kid.
Right.
It's just so weird.
I feel like this could happen.
I don't know why.
I don't know why.
It is so weird to me.
No, I mean, I feel like I'm, like,
explaining myself over and over here,
but, you know, I said that was the only thing
about that first date that was wrong,
and it's the big thing,
and I don't bend on it.
You know, I try to stay as open as I can,
you know, in case something comes along that's really great, and I thought't bend on it. You know, I try to stay as open as I can, you know,
in case something comes along,
that's really great.
And I thought that you were really great.
And I think that that's right for you.
That's just not how I do it.
Okay.
Kim,
not to beat a dead horse,
but let's do it anyway.
Would you like to go out on a second date with Chuck?
We will pay for it.
I would not.
Damn it.
Please,
Kim.
I thought that was going to be a one.
Yeah. I thought maybe after going to be a one.
I thought maybe after asking you like six times in a row if there was any way we could get you,
you might cave then if I said I would pay for the date.
But no, you won't go out with Chuck.
No.
I'll tell you what.
We'll be friends and we'll go on play dates.
I'll keep on asking you out until you go out.
You guys can go out. I'll keep on asking you out.
That's what I was going to say.
It's going to be awkward when you guys are friends now
And every five seconds he's asking you to go out
He's like let me go
I guess I'll let you guys talk it out
Kim now that you know Chuck
Really wants to talk to you
Maybe at least you guys can talk on the phone
And see if you want to hang out as friends
And take your kids to the kid park
You just let them off and run around
While you guys talk right
That's how it works?
It's called the playground, Jubal.
Oh.
All right.
One of those things.
Kid Park.
You guys can figure it all out, right?
Broken Jubal in the morning.
Ugh.
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