Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - Second Date Update PODCAST: He Just Won’t Last

Episode Date: June 23, 2016

If a guy likes a girl and they are on a first date... he will literally spend the ENTIRE night thinking about the kiss that comes at the end. Should he do it? How should he do it? When should he do it...... Well, our listener (Jesse) went in for a smooch at the end of the evening. And not only was it Embarrassing... but it may have cost him a Second Date. Find out what happened in the PODCAST.(Image Courtesy: Mariano Kamp. Creative Commons)See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Ugh, we're so done with New Year, New You. This year, it's more you on Bumble. More of you shamelessly sending playlists, especially that one filled with show tunes. More of you finding Gemini's because you know you always like them. More of you dating with intention because you know what you want. And you know what? We love that for you. Someone else will too. Be more you this year and find them on Bumble.
Starting point is 00:00:28 Joel, the holidays are a blast, but the financial hangover, that can be a huge bummer. If you are out there and you're dreading the new statement email that reveals the massive balance that you may have racked up, well, you could use our help. That's right. I'm Joel. And I am Matt. And we're from the How To Money podcast. Our show is all about helping you make sense of your personal finances so you can ditch your pesky credit card debt once and for all, make real progress on other crucial financial goals that you've got, and just feel more in control of your money in general. You know it. For money advice without the judgment and jargon, Listen to How to Money on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Starting point is 00:01:59 The guy on the phone in today's second date update says he met the girl that he wants us to call at the vet's office. They're both there taking care of some business with their doggies, and that's how they met. Apparently, he walked over to her and introduced himself just like dogs do to each other. No, he didn't. And then he sniffed her, and then she sniffed him in the right place, and sparks flew at that point. Hey, Jesse, what's up? How are you? Good, good. How's it going? Good. Is that how you met Erin, the girl that you want us to call today?
Starting point is 00:02:26 Something like that, yeah. I didn't sniff her behind, but, you know. That's what I was picturing. I picture you walk up and, hey, my name's Jesse. You want to go out sometime? Yeah. I think it would be a happier world if we could do that. Tell us a little bit about the girl that you want us to call today. Her name is Erin, right?
Starting point is 00:02:40 Erin, yeah. Yeah, I was taking Rocky, my dog Rocky, to the vet. And, yeah, we just, she sat down next to me. And, you know, the dogs started the conversation first with themselves. And then we went into it. I think that takes a lot of confidence to ask a person out in a setting like that. Did you use any lines on her? You know, it's funny just because I didn't. That was what was cool about it was because we just had a genuine connection.
Starting point is 00:03:03 It was really, really nice to, like, to have a good chat with someone that wasn't a lot of pressure, you know? And so when it was they called me in to take my dog in and I just asked her if she wanted to go, you know, like a doggy date. And I wanted to, that was maybe the extent of using a line. Doggy play date. Yeah, like a doggy play date. Yeah. So I thought that that would be cool to break the ice even further. I think that's a great idea. If I had a pet or a kid, I would use them to get dates too. That's one of the things that they're for, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:34 Some guys only have dogs and kids so that girls will talk to them. I actually borrow dogs from my friends just so people will talk to me when I'm out. So you guys agreed to go out on a doggy play date. Where did you go? We chatted back and forth, you know, text message or whatever. will talk to me when I'm out. So you guys agreed to go out on a doggy play date. Where did you go? We chatted back and forth, you know, text message or whatever. And I found a cafe that lets you take dogs in. So we met there and again, like we got along great. We had a really good chat, went took the dogs to a nice little park. More importantly, more importantly, how did the dogs get along? Cause I know with you dog people people that's the most important thing if your dog approves then you're okay exactly it's just like the parents that they
Starting point is 00:04:09 approve yes great move forward the dogs love each other they they they whatever they talk about in their little doggy language you know but the whole thing and the and the grooming and nibbling and all that so safe thing to get along goes fine so your doggies got along and you guys got along too how did the date end well that's you know the whole crux of the matter is that i walked her to her car and chatted there for a minute and i thought it was appropriate timing i went in to give her a kiss and and she kind of backed away a little bit and was like oh i gotta go and she was sort of quick about it and when she was going to her car, I just said, can I call you again? And she said, sure, and got in and took off.
Starting point is 00:04:47 So I don't know. I felt up to that point we had a really good connection. And I don't know if that was just the dogs or not. Was it awkward when she shut down your kiss? At that point, it was really, yeah, it felt really weird. I felt like, oh, damn, did I go in too soon? I know it was a first date. Did you address the fact
Starting point is 00:05:05 that it was weird like did you go hey sorry about that i was thought it'd be okay to kiss you well i didn't want to make too big of a deal about it so i just said i thought maybe that was okay but maybe it's too soon or whatever and she was like no no it's i just i have to go and was she aware the whole time that you thought this was a romantic date and really honestly not just like dogs get together because i know that i like to take my dog out and get it a lot of exercise and energy and it's always nice to find someone to be able to do that with i mean there was an energy there that i maybe i misinterpreted it but there was an energy there that i felt was i would say allowed me to do the go ahead and yeah i would say that if you went in for the kiss and she shut you down, maybe you were misinterpreting something.
Starting point is 00:05:47 I don't know. But she did tell you to call her. She did tell you to call her, and did you? Well, yeah, and I've called her, I think, once and sent her a couple text messages, and I just haven't heard back. I love listening to you guys, and I thought maybe this would be a cool way to figure it out. I don't know, just get a little help,
Starting point is 00:06:04 because I don't want to be a stalker or anything. So I don't know. Has she replied to you at all? No. Nothing? You haven't heard a word from her? No. Yeah, and like I said, I don't want to keep on, but I don't want to miss a good opportunity either because she was really cool.
Starting point is 00:06:20 She was just really nice and smart. And there's only so many women that come into the vet's office yes well exactly there's there's only so many women that are nice and have their dogs at the best yeah the next time they're all going to be 80 and then i'm going to be alone some 80 year olds have some cash don't shut that one out right said it for years that's what i would love to find that is true we'll play a back, call her, and get your second date update, okay? Right on. Okay, man.
Starting point is 00:06:48 Hang on. Moving 92.5. Brooke and Jubal in the morning. Second date update. Jesse? Yes? Before we make the phone call for your second date update, I do have a question for you. Now, the girl that you want us to call today, her name is Erin.
Starting point is 00:07:04 You guys met at the vet's office. Your dogs bonded, and you went out on a little doggy date to a question for you. Now, the girl that you want us to call today, her name is Erin. You guys met at the vet's office. Your dogs bonded, and you went out on a little doggy date to a doggy cafe. You said at the end of the night, she shut you down when you went to try to kiss her. Yes. During your date, are you one of those people that makes out with your dog a lot? What do you mean makes out with your dog? You know what I mean. There's people that sit there and they kiss their dog on the mouth nonstop.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Do you do that with your dog? I try not I mean. There's people that sit there and they kiss their dog on the mouth non-stop. Do you do that with your dog? I try not to. At least in front of people. You know, there might have been a couple times where he jumped up and gave a little lick here and there, but I try to keep that. But you know what I'm talking about, right, Jesse? There are some people that just go to town with their dog
Starting point is 00:07:42 and lick each other. I've seen people with the food in the mouth. It just disgusts me. And I ask the question because we've done a second date update before with a guy who met a girl's dog and he wouldn't stop hanging out. And the girl was actually jealous of how much attention he was giving the dog. I just thought maybe that could be the reason she shut you down for a kiss. Yeah, I tried to keep a balance.
Starting point is 00:08:02 I did my best to keep a balance. So you only make out with your dog in private. Got it. Alright. I only make out with my dog in private with peanut butter and... Okay, we didn't need to go into too many details, Jesse. Alright, I'm gonna dial her phone number right now, see if we can get her on the phone, okay?
Starting point is 00:08:16 Oh my gosh. Hello? Hi, is Erin there? Yeah, this is her. Erin, how are you? This is Jubal from Brick and Jubal in the Morning. Oh. How you doing? I'm good. I'm sorry, what's going on?
Starting point is 00:08:46 You recently went out on a date with a listener of our show, and he wanted us to call you. What? Who? His name is Jesse, and now you're not calling him back. Yeah, so? So, Jesse emailed us and said that he wants to get a hold of you because he'd love to see you again, but he's wondering if he did something wrong when you guys went out
Starting point is 00:09:07 this is really weird we weren't the right fit you weren't the right fit he told us a little bit about your date and he said that you guys your dogs bonded and stuff he also told us how he tried to kiss you at the end of it and you said no
Starting point is 00:09:24 right to his face yeah I don't think it's going to work out. Is there anything that you could tell me about the date that I could at least relate to him and say, hey, maybe don't do this next time you're out with a girl? I just don't think he's going to last through my rules. Through your rules? Yeah. I have a rule that you have to go 10 dates just hanging out. No physical activity. Just really getting to know each other before that stuff. Wait, you're saying you need to go on 10 dates before you kiss someone?
Starting point is 00:10:00 Yeah, I think it's important to get to know each other. Okay, and did you tell him this while you were on your date? I think people get weirded out, so I usually don't tell them until the second or third other. Okay, but, and did you tell him this while you were on your date? I think people get weirded out, so I usually don't tell them until the second or third date, but he was so eager, like already kissing me on the first date. Yeah, what a jerk.
Starting point is 00:10:14 No! So, you're saying, so him wanting to kiss you on the first date just turned you off, why couldn't you just tell him, hey, sorry, I don't do that on the first date,
Starting point is 00:10:22 I don't do that until the 11th date? I mean, for me, it's more of an energy thing. It's more of an energy thing. He's not going to last 10 dates if he can't even hold himself together the first date. Do you go on a lot of dates, Erin? Yeah, I have my practice in dating. Okay, and when you go out on dates with other dudes, do they try to kiss you right away and then you never call them again? See, most guys, they keep their distance.
Starting point is 00:10:47 We're still filling each other out, getting to know each other on an intellectual level. Okay. And then with Jesse, it was like all of a sudden I'm getting ready to get in my car, and his lips are my face. A vibe's the only thing you want to put out. That's right. Everybody has their rules, right?
Starting point is 00:11:07 Exactly. I have my standards. I'm a lady, and I deserve respect, so we can get to know each other, and then we can get physical. Okay. Well, you have your rules. Like, I won't go out on a second date
Starting point is 00:11:17 with someone who doesn't eat seafood. That's my rule, right? So you have the kissing rule. You don't go out with someone that tries to kiss you within 10 dates or someone that you feel like can't hold off for 10 dates. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:11:27 I appreciate you being honest with us. Yeah, you're welcome. And I also need to tell you that Jesse is actually on the phone listening. Yeah. Hi there, Aaron. How's it going? Oh, my God. I'm on your side, Aaron.
Starting point is 00:11:46 I think Jesse is just out of control. Wow. I'm kind of a little surprised. I'm not even sure what the, first of all, what the thing, I mean, this was the first I've heard of a 10-date rule of no contact. But I kind of thought we had a better connection than that, than not telling me something like that. Look, I know you're tight, and I know you're not going to last 10 dates.
Starting point is 00:12:19 What do you mean by tight? I didn't try to, you know, do what we were witnessing happen in that dog park. I mean, like, you know, I kept it pretty clean. A kiss is just a, you know, is not, you know, animal action. Look, I have my standards, and everybody has things that they like and dislike. That's the way it is. Hey, Erin, let me ask Jesse one question before you go, okay? Jesse, can you wait ten dates to make a move on Erin? Do you think you could wait?
Starting point is 00:12:48 I mean, yeah, I think so. Look, I guess stranger things have happened. I mean, in all honesty, like, it seems a little excessive, but I hear that, you know, that she has things that she, you know, believes that make a good relationship. And so I understand that. I do think it's something that I've never heard of. The thing is, you tried to kiss me after 40 minutes.
Starting point is 00:13:14 How am I supposed to believe that you would be able to last 10 dates? Okay, I mean, that's okay. The fact is I didn't know about your rules. You didn't express your things. And so if I had known, maybe I wouldn't have done that, or I would have said, hey, this isn't for me or whatever, but I didn't have that option because you didn't tell me. That's a good point, Erin. I really don't think that he'd be able to control himself.
Starting point is 00:13:39 Wow. I just don't know. I don't know. Look, we'll hit your rules at the beginning and see if they mesh, and then we'll go from there. I like you. I think you're a cool gal. Aaron, would you go out with him again? Give him one more shot.
Starting point is 00:13:53 I will pay for a second date. He promises he won't make a move for another nine dates now that you've had one. That's like two months. You can do it, babe. And maybe you guys. I don't know. I think we need to start over. Okay, so start over at zero and then go out on a date and then see if he can make it 10
Starting point is 00:14:10 dates without making a move on you. Would you be willing to go out with Jesse again? I don't know if I can do the 10. Erin, you can do it. He's such a reasonable, nice guy. I mean, I really think a lot of men would just write you off immediately for expecting that. Let's try
Starting point is 00:14:30 it out. We can start at one. One more shot. Yeah, alright, cool. Erin, is there any kind of can we bargain on this? Can I get you to reduce it to eight dates before our first kiss? Oh, come on. This isn't litigation. I reduced it to one. I don't want to push it.
Starting point is 00:14:45 I don't want to ruin Jesse's chances. We've already gone that far. Congratulations, Jesse. You got a second date. Aaron, I think that you will be happy with Jesse going out with him again. I hope that he can prove to you that he will not make a move on you for ten dates, okay? Yeah, we'll see. And if he does, I'm going to send you out on that date with some pepper spray.
Starting point is 00:15:01 You just spray him right in the eyes if he tries to get a kiss. We're so done with new year, new you. This year, it's more you on Bumble. More of you shamelessly sending playlists, especially that one filled with show tunes. More of you finding Gemini's because you know you always like them. More of you dating with intention because you know what you want. And you know what? We love that for you. Someone else will too. Be more you this year and find them on Bumble. Joel, the holidays are a blast, but the financial hangover, that can be a huge bummer. If you are out there and you're dreading the new statement email that reveals the massive balance that you may have racked up, well, you could use our help.
Starting point is 00:15:48 That's right. I'm Joel. And I am Matt. And we're from the How To Money podcast. Our show is all about helping you make sense of your personal finances so you can ditch your pesky credit card debt once and for all, make real progress on other crucial financial goals that you've got, and just feel more in control of your money in general. You know it. For money advice without the judgment and jargon,
Starting point is 00:16:08 listen to How to Money on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Ed Zitron, host of the Better Offline podcast. And this January, we're going to go on the road to beautiful Las Vegas, Nevada to cover the Consumer Electronics Show, tech's biggest conference. Better Offline CES coverage won't be the usual rundown of the hottest gadgets or biggest trends, but an unvarnished look at what the tech industry plans to sell
Starting point is 00:16:33 or do to you in 2025. I'll be joined by David Roth of Defector and the writer Edward Ongueso, Jr., with guest appearances from Behind the Bastards Robert Evans, It Could Happen Here's Gare Davis, and a few surprise guests throughout the show. Listen to better offline on the I heart radio app, Apple podcasts, wherever else you get your podcasts from.

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