Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - Second Date Update PODCAST: I Want My Money Back

Episode Date: August 29, 2014

Thomas is upset that his date (Laura) hasn't returned his calls after a week... and AT THIS POINT, he says he doesn't really WANT a Second Date... he's more interested in getting the money BACK that he put into the date. WAIT WHAT?!? Hear it in the PODCAST!(Image Courtesy: Refracted Moments. Creative Commons)See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Ugh, we're so done with New Year, New You. This year, it's more you on Bumble. More of you shamelessly sending playlists, especially that one filled with show tunes. More of you finding Gemini's because you know you always like them. More of you dating with intention because you know what you want. And you know what? We love that for you. Someone else will too. Be more you this year and find them on Bumble.

Joel, the holidays are a blast, but the financial hangover, that can be a huge bummer. If you are out there and you're dreading the new statement email that reveals the massive balance that you may have racked up, well, you could use our help. That's right. I'm Joel. And I am Matt. And we're from the How To Money podcast. Our show is all about helping you make sense of your personal finances so you can ditch your pesky credit card debt once and for all, make real progress on other crucial financial goals that you've got, and just feel more in control of your money in general. You know it. For money advice without the judgment and jargon, Listen to How to Money on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Hi, I'm Ed Zitron, host of the Better Offline podcast. And this January, we're going to go on the road to beautiful Las Vegas, Nevada, to cover the Consumer Electronics Show, tech's biggest conference. Better Offline CES coverage won't be the usual rundown of the hottest gadgets or biggest trends, but an unvarnished look at what the tech industry plans to sell or do to you in 2025.

I'll be joined by David Roth of Defector and the writer Edward Ongueso Jr. With guest appearances from Behind the Bastards Robert Evans, It Could Happen Here's Gare Davis, and a few surprise guests throughout the show. Listen to Better Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever else you get your podcasts from. Thomas is on the phone with us right now for a second date update. He's not even really sure if he wants a second date with the girl that he went out with. But he does know one thing. If he can't get a second date, he wants some of his money back. What?

Yeah. Thomas. Thomas, how you doing, man? I'm doing well. How you guys doing? Good. Pretty good. So your email said you went out on a date with a girl and you think she might have just like used you to eat at a really nice restaurant.

Oh, yeah. This is the most expensive date I've ever been on. Really? And what made you want to spend all this money on this girl? How'd you meet her? What makes her so special? We met online, and we've been texting for the last, like, month. Okay.

So I thought things were, like, pretty solid. And, I don't know, it's like the best first date I've ever been on, honestly. Okay, and did you, like, before you guys went out, did you say, hey, we're both going to pay for the date? Yeah, we were going to split it up. So you knew that, okay, but you ended up paying for everything. Yeah, I kind of, like, in the middle of dinner was like, this is going well enough, I want to lock down a second date. And she was like, yeah, totally.

So then when the check came, I offered to pay for the whole thing, and she was like, I'll get you on the next one. How much was dinner, if you don't mind thing. And she was like, I'll get you on the next one. Oh. How much was dinner, if you don't mind me asking? It was like $265. Oh, geez. Okay. Wow. That's fancy.

I'll pay for this $260 dinner right now. You take me to Applebee's and drop $40. That's unfair. That's pretty much what you did. Oh, my God. I hope not. Who picked the restaurant in the first place? I mean... I chose it just because it is a nice place,

and I figured it'd make a great impression. Look, I have trouble spending, like, over $50 on a date, and that's with my girlfriend who I've been with for over a year now. What makes you want to spend, like, over $300 on a girl on a first date? She's incredibly attractive. Like, very, very good-looking. Probably the best-looking girl I've ever taken on a first date. And so I was like, great. Like, I don't know. I thought that that would, very, very good looking. Probably the best looking girl I've ever taken on a first date. And so I was like, great.

Like, I don't know. I thought that that would, like, seal the deal. You do realize, though, when you ask a girl to a really expensive restaurant, usually it's kind of an unwritten rule that you're going to pay, right? Yeah. I kind of knew that going in, but that's why in the middle of the first date, I wanted to lock down the second one. Like, I don't even care if, like, the second date is as expensive.

I just wanted the second date. She was that good looking. But are you assuming that she would have paid for half if you hadn't offered? Oh, yeah. She totally would have. Like, she was reaching for a purse and everything. And I was like, no, no, no. I got this one.

You get the next one. Okay. That's good. And how many times have you tried to get a hold of her since your date to set up your second encounter where she was supposed to pay? So I texted her that night just to, just to tell her I had a great time. She texted back one time. She said, I'm really busy.

I'll call you back later. And then never called back. There was no return phone call. So an excuse, obviously. Yeah. Yeah. Called her like a day later. Waited a couple days.

Texted again. Left a message. I mean, at this point, I've called her now three times and gotten nothing. It's not good. So do you want another date with her? It's like at this point, she's blowing me off so much,

I don't want another date. But if I'm not going to get that second dinner, like she, I mean, she said I'll get the second one. Like I want that half of the bill that I paid to be paid for then. What? You actually want to call her and ask

for your money back. A refund. On your date. Yeah. She sold me a bill of goods and it's like, shit, they're like, call me up. This is less of a second. They're going to take me to dinner and then not answer when I text you, especially when we had a great date. It's less of a second date update and more of a small claims

court right now. At this point, she paid for her half with a peck on the cheek at the end of the date. That's what she paid. Sometimes that's worth $300. So you guys didn't even really kiss or anything? No, no. I was very nice at the end.

It was just like a little kiss on the cheek, whatever. And I was like, okay, great. I'll see you on the second date and hopefully get a little better kiss. That's got to upset you if you drop almost $300 on dinner and that's all you get. Oh, come on. She's not obligated. Yeah, you are.

Kind of now, yes. Yeah, over $75 you have to at least kiss. At least get to one base? Yeah. $300. You've got to have a good story out of it or something. Yeah, seriously. $300, I think you better get pregnant. But... Alright, man. Well, we'll play a song, come back, call her, see if we can get her on the phone and get 300 bucks I think you better get pregnant but alright man well

we'll play a song come back call her see if we can get her on the phone and get your money back or a date or something great alright hold on I think more second date updates should be like this. Oh, yeah? Why? I think more dates in general should be like this. What do you mean?

If you go out with someone and you spend too much on dinner and then you think about it later and go, I wish I wouldn't have dropped so much money, you should be able to get at least half of your money back if you don't see that person again. There's no return policy on dating. Well, I think that's the problem right there, Lydia. There needs to be one thomas is on the phone with us right now he went out with a girl named laura met her online they had a perfectly fine time on the date the issue that he's having

though is he ended up spending like 300 on dinner yeah when the check came he said hey i'll pay for this because she was reaching for her wallet i'll pay for it as long as you get the next date. She agreed, and now she's not calling him back. So he's kind of over it. At this point, I just want the money back. The second date, it's not as important. Just give me the cash. Okay. All right.

You did say it was the most amazing date up until this whole money thing. It was a very good date, and she's really hot. Very good date. She's really hot. Kind of a user, though, and she's really hot. Very good date, she's really hot. Kind of a user, though, because she didn't pay for the... Oh, come on. He offered to pay. The only reason I offered to pay was because she really genuinely seemed interested in the second date. And now I feel just a little betrayed.

I feel like this kind of thing happens a little too often. Like, oh yeah, second date, for sure, and then nothing. Yeah, and I think you're taking a stand right now for everybody who's ever had to pay for a meal and then hasn't gotten one bought for them in return. Yeah. All right, I'm going to dial the phone number, see if we can get her on the phone, and get your second date update, okay? Awesome.

All right, hold on. Hello? Hi, is Laura there? This is Laura. Laura, how are you? This is Jubal from Brook and Jubal in the Morning. Hello? What's going on?

Nothing. Do you know why I'm calling you? I have no idea why you're calling me or how you know who I am. I'll explain. I'm calling you because we recently got an email from a listener who went out on a date with you. Okay. And you are not calling him back. And so he emailed us to ask you, why are you blowing him off, basically? His name is Thomas.

Thomas? Yeah, you remember going on a date with Thomas? Yeah, it was just last week. Right. Wait, he asked you to call me? Yes. He said that he's texted you once since your date. You said that you were really busy, and then he hasn't been able to get a hold of you.

And at this point, he feels like you've blown him off, and he wants to know if he did something wrong. That's what he said to you? I told him that I will call him back. Right, but he said you never called him back. Is there a reason? Yeah, there's a reason. Ever since I went on a date with him,

my life's been pretty crazy. Okay. So you're just busy. Yeah, I've been non-stop busy since the date. I haven't had time to call him back. So you're not lying. You've been legitimately busy. Yeah, my grandma's in the hospital. She was're not lying. You've been legitimately busy. Yeah, my

grandma's in the hospital. She was admitted to the hospital the day after our date. I've been in the hospital with her the entire week. My whole family has. So Thomas probably jumped the gun then by emailing a radio show to call you. Yeah, I don't understand why he wouldn't just wait for me to call him

back. Well, he was just nervous because he had such a great time with you. He thought you might just be like, you know, trying to blow him off and not talk to him again. So he was nervous, I guess, and emailed us a little too soon to call you. People do this on our show all the time. It's called a second date update. I don't know if you've heard it or not. I mean, it's nice that he's that interested, but it's like I don't understand why he had to get like somebody else involved. It's just it.

It works. Hey, it works for a lot of people. So that's probably why. So you would actually go out with him again? Well, yeah. I mean, I thought we were going to be going out again. It hasn't changed. I just have been busy.

Oh, okay. Well, that's good news. But there is one other thing he wanted us to call you about. Okay. And that's the fact that he feels like you owe him money. Oh no, dude. Wait, what? Oh, dude.

Oh, wait, can she hear me? Can she hear me? I owe him money? No, no, no, you don't owe me money. Can she hear me? Yes, she can. Yeah, but you don't owe me money. Can she hear me? Yes, she can. Thomas? Yeah, but you don't owe me money. I didn't realize that your grandma...

No, no, no, Thomas. What do I owe you money for? Nothing. You don't owe me money. I was concerned that you were blowing me off, but my God, I did not know that. You were on the phone this whole time? Yeah, I didn't know that you could hear me. I'm so sorry. I did not know

that your grandma was in the hospital. Yeah, Laura, that's how the second date updates work. We call with the other person on the line, and then they hear the reason why they're not getting a call back. Now Thomas knows that you actually wanted to go on a second date with him, and you have a legitimate excuse for not calling him back, but you do still owe the guy some money.

No, you don't. I'm so sorry. I didn't know that your grandmother, you don't. I'm so sorry. I didn't know that your grandmother was in the hospital. I'm so sorry. It doesn't matter. What does that have anything to do with money? It doesn't. I just told him that you, at the end of our, you know,

when I was going to pay and he said that you get the second date. And I said, well, I want to go on a second date. And then they were like, oh, if it doesn't happen, then you should get your money back. Okay, come on. We didn't say that. You said you wanted your money back. Yeah, no.

Be honest, Thomas. Are you saying that you want me to pay for half of the date? Is that what you're saying? I told them that, you know, joking around, I said, if she doesn't go out with me again, I should just get married. Thomas, come on. No, no, no. No, it was...

Laura, Thomas told us when he was First talking to us, he told us about your date Said you had a great time And was like, at this point, she hasn't called me back And I don't care, I just want my money back Because I shouldn't have had to spend so much on dinner If she's not going to call me back Are you kidding me?

I'm on the side of justice right now And I still think you're owed some money I don't know why you guys are now and I still think you're owed some money. I don't know why you guys are laughing. I don't think this is funny. I don't either. This is the rudest thing I've ever heard. So is it true or not? It's not true.

I was worried that I wasn't going to get a second date with you. So I had them call you. I'm being serious. I really liked you and I'm so sorry. I am not a bad person. This is not indicative of my character. This is completely out of character.

And they're the ones who are putting this in the realm of, like, wanting the money back. I don't care about the money. Wow, Thomas. Oh, Thomas, you didn't say that? Sounds like there's a bunch of people that disagree with you. Yeah, and they're also doing it for ratings or whatever. I don't know bunch of people that disagree with you. Yeah, and they also, they're doing it for ratings or whatever. I don't know why they're doing this to you. You called us,

Thomas! It's awesome just to hear Thomas tread water right now. Seriously. Hey, Laura, I would love to ask you. To be honest with you guys, I don't mean to be rude, but I don't really have time for this. Well, alright, before you go, I know that you're busy. I appreciate you staying on the phone as long as you did. Would you go out on a second date with Thomas?

We will pay for it. That way, neither of you have to worry about the money. I'll pay for it. I don't care. I just want to go out with you. I'll pay for it, and then I'll call you after, Thomas, and get half my money back. Yeah, I'm going to pass on that one. No? Oh, God.

Okay, so if you won't go out on a second date with him, can we get that money back? No, you guys can f*** yourself. Oh! Ow! All right, well... What the f*** was that? It's supposed to be a second date update, not blow my second date up.

You said you wanted to get money. No, I said I wanted to go on a date with her. Oh, come on, dude. And that was the main thing that I wanted. When we first talked to you, you said, I don't care if I get a second date, I want to get half my cash. No, you f*** wanted to go on a date with her. Oh, come on, dude. And that was the main thing that I wanted. When we first talked to you, you said, I don't care if I get a second date. I want to get half my cash. No, you blew it up. Thomas.

It was clearly not going to happen. We were at least trying to get you a check in the mail. I don't. Laura's right. You guys just go f*** yourselves. Oh, wow. Hey. It's a second date update first. A double hang

up. The second date is over and neither one of the parties is on the phone. And we just lost two listeners. Yeah. Success, I think. Broken Jubal in the morning. Texting at 78592. Well, actually, lots of texts in at 78592. All hating on me.

I don't understand what the big deal is. I was just trying to help the guy out for the second date update. Thomas called us, wanted us to ask Laura to give him a refund on his date because he spent a bunch of money. She wasn't calling him back. He said if she's not going to call me back for a date, then I'd at least like some of my money back for the almost $300 that I spent. He was just being bitter.

And it comes out that she was just not calling him back because she was busy, legitimately busy. Yeah. And then I happened to drop the fact that he wanted his money back and then she got pissed

and didn't want a date with him. You threw him off the bus. At the end, both of us told us to F off and then hung up the phone on us. I may have thrown him out of the bus to people like,

Jubal, you broke bro code. Yeah. Listen, listen. There are certain times when it's okay to break bro code no yes it is yeah

like when we're trying to get ratings and we're trying to be funny for entertainment purposes for entertainment purposes it is okay to break bro code and yes I did it it's his life code also let's not remember

this guy is not a stand up guy yeah he said he should have put out because he paid for an expensive dinner in the first part do you not remember that he did not say that and he wanted his money back for the come on Brooke that. And he wanted his money back for the – come on, Brooke.

Yes, he did. Like he wanted his money back for the date. That's the first thing he did. I wish I would have been here when you guys recorded it. I think that he was just bitter and angry because he wasn't getting a call back. That's like the first time you ever would stand up for a guy like that. If you would have been here and you said, I want my money back, you would have been like, you're an evil douchebag.

Anyway, like I was saying, look, all's okay to break bro code in instances like that. No. Because I knew it would be funny. And it was funny. Lots of people at 78592 think it's funny. And Jose pointed out, hey, but that's his life that you're messing with. Right? That is his life that I'm messing with, but also he's on our show and that's my paycheck

that I'm hopefully making bigger by messing with his life. So that's why I did it. Ugh, we're so done with New Year, New You. This year,

it's more you on Bumble. More of you shamelessly sending playlists, especially that one filled with show tunes. More of you finding Gemini's

because you know you always like them. More of you dating with intention because you know what you want. And you know what? We love that for you. Someone else will, too. Be more you this year and find them on Bumble.

Joel, the holidays are a blast, but the financial hangover, that can be a huge bummer. If you are out there and you're dreading the new statement email that reveals the massive balance that you may have racked up, well, you could use our help. That's right. I'm Joel. And I am Matt. And we're from the How To Money podcast. Our show is all about helping you make sense of your personal finances so you can ditch your pesky credit card debt once and for all, make real progress on other crucial financial goals that you've got, and just feel more in control of your money in general. You know it. For money advice without the judgment and jargon, listen to How to Money on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Hi, I'm Ed Zitron, host of the Better Offline podcast. And this January, we're going to go on the road to beautiful Las Vegas, Nevada, to cover the Consumer Electronics Show, tech's biggest conference. Better Offline's CES coverage won't be the usual rundown of the hottest gadgets or biggest trends, but an unvarnished look at what the tech industry plans to sell or do to you in 2025. I'll be joined by David Roth of Defector and the writer Edward Ongueso Jr. With guest appearances from Behind the Bastards, Robert Evans, It Could Happen Here's Gare Davis, and a few surprise guests throughout the show. Listen to Better Offline on the iHeartRadio app,

Apple Podcasts, or wherever else you get your podcasts from.