Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - Second Date Update PODCAST: Ice Cream Is For Winners
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Moving 92.5.
Rook and Jubal's Second Date Update.
For today's Second Date Update, a listener named Robert is on the phone,
and his email started off by saying,
Kids make dating difficult.
Oh, yeah, that's true.
I didn't really read more after that.
I just wanted to get him on the phone, because, Robert, why are you dating kids?
Oh, my God, that's not what I said.
Of course it's going to be difficult.
I wasn't dating kids.
Difficult and illegal.
Yeah, there's a lot of things wrong with that, Robert.
No, actually, I have a kid.
I'm a single parent.
Oh.
Makes sense.
Makes so much more sense now, Robert.
All right.
Okay.
You have a kid and somehow it made a date difficult for you?
Yes.
Okay.
What happened?
So I met this young lady, Rebecca, online.
Okay. And did you, were you upfront
right from the beginning that you were a father? Yes, I was. Actually, she's also a single parent.
So I thought right off the bat, we had that commonality. Right. And who better to understand
how dating is difficult when you're a single parent than another single parent dating?
Exactly. You know, and it's hard enough right now to even like have
the time to even manage to meet someone, you know, let alone finding a match just like scheduling
wise with work. Yeah. It's gotta be a lot to handle. So you, you met her on a dating app.
Yeah. We were chatting. Eventually I had a plan to meet for dinner. And right before, about an hour, hour and a half before the date, I forgot about my son's b-ball game.
And yeah, he had a game that night and I felt awful.
I had to call Rebecca to cancel.
I was, you know, very apologetic.
And did you have to cancel because you just wanted to be there or because you had to take him to the basketball game?
I forgot that I had to take him to the game.
Why don't you just put him on the bus and go do whatever you want to do?
No!
Well, that actually could work.
How old is this kid?
He's six years old.
Okay, so that won't work.
Never mind.
He's got a seven to ride the bus by himself.
So you called her to cancel?
Yeah.
And to my surprise, she suggested, well, why don't we both go?
Hey!
She's a mom.
She probably understands your struggle.
Yeah.
I mean, I was somewhat shocked.
I mean, I thought, how cool is that?
You know, she used...
Yeah, why not use my six-year-old's basketball game as a dating opportunity?
Yeah.
So I figured, you know, she was just really cool to even suggest that.
Yeah, that's cool. It shows that she's pretty easygoing. How was the date at your kid's basketball game then?
It was really good. She was very supportive.
Did you get seats right up front? Some good seats.
He got court side. He got court side at the six-year-old basketball game. We had front row seats. She was cheering him on really cold every time they had the ball,
every time he had the ball, very supportive.
Was he like, who's this strange lady cheering me on, Dad?
Actually, they met right before the game, so it wasn't that weird.
Okay.
At halftime, I should mention this,
there was a little romance that actually ensued during the game.
Okay, what happened?
She got a little hungry, and I said,
I'll be right back, I'll get some food.
And she was like, I'll tell you what,
if you bring me some popcorn, I'll give you a kiss.
And I was, like, back in a flash.
They didn't even have popcorn?
You had to, like, drive to a movie theater to find some?
Pretty much.
I had to leave.
Yeah, pretty much.
So she gave me a kiss when I got back.
The second half started.
She was cheering, cheering, cheering.
My kids' team lost, unfortunately.
That's probably why she's not calling you back.
She wants a winner.
Probably.
I mean, actually, Rebecca was saying, good job, you know, very consoling.
You know, they lost.
And then she was like, don't lie to the kid.
He played terrible.
No, no.
No, she was really cool, I have to say.
And I was, you know, I was even thinking, wow, this is like, this is wife material.
Oh, wow.
Okay, that's quick. this is a wife material. Oh, wow. Okay. That's quick.
That's a quick jump.
Well, you know, our first date where, you know, she's hanging out with me and my kid.
We went to dinner afterwards and we had, you know, a great conversation.
Our kids have a lot in common.
They're only a couple of years apart.
Did your son come to dinner with you guys too?
Yeah.
He came with us and it was a lot of fun.
She was asking a lot of questions about school, about sports,
and, you know, he was very comfortable with her.
So, I mean, I couldn't help but think that this would be a possible, you know, candidate here.
Okay, well, other than just the kid stuff, did you like her?
Did she seem to like you?
Yeah, it seemed like we had a spark.
I mean, she wouldn't have given me a kiss, I don't think, if she didn't like me.
Good point.
Yeah. Very good point. I don't know, popcorn's pretty good. I do a lot of things for popcorn. That's true. All right. How did everything end with her then? I dropped her off, said good
night. She gave me a hug. She said goodbye to my son. And here we are. That was two weeks ago. I
haven't heard from her. I've been trying to get a hold of her, text her, call her once.
So it's, you know, just really disappointing.
Like I said earlier, it's really hard to find the time to meet someone.
I don't know, like, if I might have said something to offend her.
You know, it's really frustrating.
Okay, well, we'll play a song, come back, and then call her and get your second date update, all right?
Sounds good.
Okay, man, hang on.
Moving 92.5.
Brooke and Jubal in the Morning's Second Date Update.
If you're just tuning in for today's second date update, Robert is on the phone,
and he took the girl that he wants to call today, her name is Rebecca, to a sporting event.
Always a good idea, unless, of course, it's a six-year-old's basketball game.
What was the score, by the way, Robert?
Nine to six?
Seriously.
It's actually even less than that.
All right.
Good job, kids.
Good job.
If you're just tuning in, Robert actually forgot that he had his kid the night that he scheduled a date with Rebecca.
She has a kid, too.
And he had to take him to a basketball game.
And Rebecca actually was like, fine, I'll go.
So they went to the basketball game and then had dinner after.
He said everything went great.
He even got a kiss in the middle of the game.
And now she's not calling him back and he can't figure out why.
You ready to get her on the phone, Robert?
Yeah, I mean, like I said,
I just really want to find out why she hasn't gotten back to me.
I can't figure it out.
I'm completely baffled.
So I just want to hear the truth.
I just want to find out what the deal is. All right, cool. Well, I'm going to dial her phone number right now and see if we can figure it out. I'm completely baffled. I just want to hear the truth. I just want to find out what the deal is.
Alright, cool. I'm going to dial her phone number right now
and see if we can figure it out. Here we go.
Hello?
Hey, is this Rebecca?
Yes.
Hello, Rebecca. Pleasure to make your acquaintance.
What are you doing?
That's how people talk on the phone.
Who is this?
Hey, this is Jubal from Brooke and Jubal in the Morning. It's a radio show.
Sorry about that.
What? Who is this, really?
My name is Jubal from Brooke and Jubal in the Morning. It's a radio show.
Better talk like people do.
Understand it.
You're calling me from the radio right now
Yes, how are you?
I'm fine
You sound confused is what you sound
Could it be the accent or could it be the radio part?
Who knows
What is this about?
Well, we do a segment on our show
It's called the second date update
And you went out with a dude named Robert a little while ago. Oh yeah. Yeah. And Robert emailed us because
he told us all about your date. And he also told us that you aren't calling him back or returning
any of his text messages. And he was wondering why this is the weirdest thing that's ever happened to me what i don't is this this is for real
it is unless you haven't gone out with a guy named robert yeah no i i did i i did so yeah
is there a particular reason you don't want to see robert again you know i uh
i just i just don't think that robert and I will work out in the end.
That's all.
He doesn't see that at all.
Okay.
Can you give us any information to give to him?
I mean, that's why we do these,
is so people can figure out what they're doing wrong in dating,
and Robert really wants to know,
especially when he said that you kissed him in the middle of the date.
Oh, wow.
Okay, so he...
Yeah, he told us.
He did tell us that.
Whoa.
Either you liked him
or you really liked the popcorn
that you traded the kiss for.
Oh, my...
Are you kidding me?
This is...
I thought it was cute, though.
Oh, boy.
Yeah, if somebody kisses me in the middle of a date, I usually think the date is going well.
Yeah.
But it sounds like, you know.
Well, it was going well then.
So when did it change?
Well, okay, so I don't know if he told you, but we went out to dinner afterwards, after this game and um this thing happened at dinner and it was just
weird and awkward and it was kind of a big deal and i i honestly i i can't get it out of my head
and i just i mean it's it's that big and i just it's that big it's that big it's so big
the six-year- that out at dinner?
The six-year-old was at dinner with them.
What are you talking about?
Well, I hope that didn't happen then.
Oh, my God, Rebecca.
Am I right?
Am I reading into what you're saying right, Rebecca?
She means the situation.
It was the situation.
Oh, okay.
Can you tell us what happened?
He's really curious.
Okay.
We finished eating dinner, and his son asked for some ice cream, and his kid is six.
And so Robert tells him, no, he can't have ice cream.
Then he literally said, well, your team lost, and ice cream is for winners.
Ice cream is for winners.
Wow. What was the
kid's response? He just like
he looked so sad and defeated
like he had already like lost
this game like it was
I mean they're six they couldn't reach
the basket like nobody scored it was the worst
like right it was like one basket
was the winning and he just
looked so sad and
like just heartbroken like it was just a
simple little request after dinner and it was just so harsh and it was it was heartbreaking like i
have my own kid and i would never like it broke my heart i i just thought like what a jerk well
think about that the next time they lose a game.
I know you guys are joking, but growing up, my dad was my softball coach forever.
And when we were in elementary school, we only got ice cream when we won.
Not my parents.
You always got ice cream.
But that was, like, understood going into it.
Like, if we win, we get ice cream.
If we don't, we go home.
Oh, wow.
I mean, that's harsh for a kid, I think. I just think, like, it's ice cream if we don't we go home oh wow I mean that's harsh for a kid I think I just think like it's ice cream it's it's not like what are we teaching I want to teach my my kids that
there's more than just like what the final score is in a basketball game that that well did you
ask him what his like philosophy was with the no ice cream thing? No, I didn't. But I mean, his son was right there and he just looked so sad.
And I mean, I didn't want to make a thing of it in front of his kid.
Right.
Because that's his parenting.
She didn't get into a whole big conversation.
She's like, I'll buy him some ice cream.
Yeah.
And we were done then.
I mean, dinner was over.
I just wanted to leave then.
Okay.
But it seems like you could at least have told them like, hey, our parenting theories
don't match up.
They don't.
Our parenting skills are very different, but I just didn't want to make a thing of it in front of his son.
Well, he is on the phone listening right now and wants to talk to you.
Wait, he's where?
I don't know.
I'm somewhere.
But he's on the phone.
Like, I don't know where he's physically sitting, if that was your question.
But he is on the other line and wants to talk to you.
I hope you're joking. Hi, Rebecca. Nope, not joking. That's Robert
If you had a problem like this is the problem you should have told me that it you should have meant brought it up to me
I mean my son knows the rules at home. You know when you win you get ice cream. No one
Well, I think it was it was pretty clear if you were listening to my whole call
that I feel differently about winning versus losing and rewards
and something as simple as ice cream.
You did see your son's face, right?
You broke his heart.
It was the saddest thing to see his face like that.
He's six years old.
He wasn't running hard enough. He
could have run faster. They lost. I mean, you know, I have to be tough on my son, you know.
I'm trying to prepare my son for adulthood. You know, you have to work hard. You have to win.
Yeah, when he's the next, like, CEO of some major company and writes a book called Ice Cream is for
Winners, you'll see. Robert, I mean, what is the purpose of doing the ice cream only for winning?
Give them motivation so we can work harder.
You know, I teach them to play hard, to be a winner, to give it his all,
not to have it on the basketball court.
I mean, if you have a different parenting style, I mean,
that's probably quite obvious in the way that you were brought up,
in the way you were raising your kid, maybe.
I don't know.
You're judging me right now?
That's what's happening.
You're judging me because I would give my kid ice cream in this situation?
Absolutely.
I believe that ice cream is for winners.
I believe that wholeheartedly.
And if you don't agree with that,
then maybe you're the one that's not being a good parent.
Whoa! Dude, shots fired! Okay. And if you don't agree with that, then maybe you're the one that's not being a good parent. Whoa.
Jeez.
Dude, shots fired.
I mean, all I can say is that this basketball was more than half the size of your child.
You think he needs to run faster?
Like, he's six years old.
I mean, I don't understand this, like, food for winning thing.
I mean, you brought me some plain, dry popcorn. You didn't put butter or salt on this popcorn and i still gave you a kiss
so how about that robert i'll tell you why you gave me a kiss it's because i'm a winner rebecca
oh my god rebecca i am so sorry for defending this guy for moments before we actually talked
to him yeah if you have to identify yourself as a winner, that is the most loser thing
you could possibly say. Yeah, that
is true. Well, in that case, would you like
to go on a second date with Robert, Rebecca?
We will pay for it. Oh my god!
No. No.
You sure you don't want to think about it some more? Definitely
still no. I'm sure no
that it was that first night. Dude, and
Robert, lighten up on your six-year-old
man. That's intense.
My son is going to thank me
in about 20 years from now
when he's making seven-figure salaries
thanking that his dear old dad
pushed him harder on the basketball court
for one that little bit more
than the other kids.
You know, you have to be tough in this world.
And if you guys there in the recording studio
don't agree with that,
then I sincerely suggest
you look at your own lives and how you were brought up and how you're raising your own children.
Oh, my God.
Whoa.
Yeah.
I'm sure he's going to be thanking you, or his therapist is, for all the money he's going to have to pay.
And, Rebecca, I see the future, and it will be your child washing my son's car.
Whoa!
Dude, rude!
You're crazy.
You're like a crazy human.
Like, of course you are.
You called the radio to try to deal with this.
You couldn't even read my social signs on the ride home
that you were treating your kid like he is a CEO.
He's six.
I mean, it was a big deal.
He got his shorts to stay up for the whole thing.
Come on.
Good point.
I don't really have anything else to say.
I think I said it all.
Yeah, I think we are.
Rebecca said she doesn't want to go out with you again, so you do not get a second date, Robert.
Loser.
You say loser.
I say winner.
And all you guys can go to hell.
All right.
Well, you don't get a second date, so I'm guessing no ice cream after this whole phone call.
Free, Robert. But keep winning. Broken after this whole phone call for you, Robert.
But keep winning.
Broken Jubal in the morning.
Lots of texting at 78592 saying, he's right.
Ice cream is for winners.
These stupid millennials and their participation trophies.
Talking about today's second date update.
Yeah, they are very fired up on the text message board.
It's also very split.
A lot of different parenting techniques out there. Fired up. Second date update. Yeah, they are very fired up on the text message board. It's also very split. Split.
Very split.
A lot of different parenting techniques out there.
If you missed the second date update, this dude Robert wanted to call Rebecca.
He's a single father.
She's a single mother.
He scheduled a date, but he forgot that he had to take his son to his basketball game that night.
And she was like, well, I'll just come with you.
So they went.
He actually got a kiss at halftime, but she stopped calling him back.
And the reason was because after they went out, after they went to the game, they went. He actually got a kiss at halftime, but she stopped calling him back. And the reason was because after they went out after they went to the game, they went out to dinner and his son wanted ice cream.
And he just said, sorry, ice cream is for winners.
Yeah. Which is a quote that will now go down in second date history.
And she said she didn't like the fact that he wouldn't get his son ice cream because he didn't win the game.
So she didn't want to go out with him again. It's very split on the text message board.
Some people are saying, I agree, ice cream
is for winners.
Getting everybody ice cream is what creates
snowflakes these days. Run to your
safe space. And then other people are like, everybody
should get ice cream. I was with him.
You could say no to your kid for ice cream. That's
no big deal. But then he started attacking her
parenting style and calling her a bad
mom. I'm like, okay, you're the jerk at the
sideline of the kids game who's
yelling at the coach and is way
too aggressive yourself. And then he
attacked all of us and how our parents were, and I'm
like, dude, my dad tried to fight refs at
every single game. Yeah, look how I turned
out. We should be friends. I actually almost broke
a guy's nose at a game once because I was angry
at my dad yelling at me, so I hit the guy in the face, so
I get kicked out of the game, so I didn't have to hear it anymore.
Look, that's not a snowflake.
That's just real solid.
Look at where I went to.
Very dark places in my life.
Remember, if you want to do a second date update, all you have to do is email the show.
We will call the person who didn't call you back.
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Ugh, we're so done with New Year, New You.
This year, it's more you on Bumble.
More of you shamelessly sending playlists,
especially that one filled with show tunes.
More of you finding Gemini's because you know you always like them.
More of you dating with intention because you know what you want.
And you know what? We love that for you.
Someone else will too.
Be more you this year
and find them on Bumble. Joel, the holidays are a blast, but the financial hangover, that can be a
huge bummer. If you are out there and you're dreading the new statement email that reveals
the massive balance that you may have racked up, well, you could use our help. That's right. I'm
Joel. And I am Matt.
And we're from the How To Money podcast.
Our show is all about helping you make sense of your personal finances
so you can ditch your pesky credit card debt once and for all,
make real progress on other crucial financial goals that you've got,
and just feel more in control of your money in general.
You know it.
For money advice without the judgment and jargon,
listen to How To Money on the iHeartRadio
app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Ed Zittron, host of the Better
Offline podcast. And this January, we're going to go on the road to beautiful Las Vegas, Nevada
to cover the Consumer Electronics Show, tech's biggest conference. Better Offline CES coverage
won't be the usual rundown of the hottest gadgets or biggest trends,
but an unvarnished look at what the tech industry plans to sell or do to you in 2025.
I'll be joined by David Roth at Defector and the writer Edward Ongueso Jr. With guest appearances from Behind the Bastards' Robert Evans,
It Could Happen Here's Gare Davis, and a few surprise guests throughout the show.
Listen to Better Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever else you get your podcasts from.