Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - Second Date Update PODCAST: Is It A Date?

Episode Date: March 13, 2017

Sometimes in life, you get MIXED SIGNALS from people close to you, and you're not sure how to respond. Miscommunications happen when you don't know EXACTLY what is happening with the situation... And ...that's exactly what happened to one of our listeners in today's Second Date Update! Listen to the full podcast below!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:58 In today's second date update, we're going to solve a mystery. The curious case of the date that wasn't really a date. What? Or was it a date? What? Nobody knows. Including Darren, who's on the phone for a second date update right now. Uh-oh. Darren, your email says that you're really confused on if you were on a date or not.
Starting point is 00:02:19 Yes. Hi, guys. Thanks for having me. No problem. Thanks for your email. So tell us about the situation. What's the girl's name that you want to call, by the way? Renee.
Starting point is 00:02:26 Renee. Okay. And tell us a little bit about Renee. Well, we were friends for a few months. We met and I really liked her. She's really cute, but I didn't necessarily feel like there was any chance that she'd want to go out. Okay.
Starting point is 00:02:39 But we did have some mutual friends in a play. Okay. And so we were just hanging out, and I was like, hey, there's only one night left to see this thing. Why don't we just go ahead and go together? She's like, great. So at this point, I'm like, it's not a date. We're just friends.
Starting point is 00:02:53 Okay, so you thought you were just two friends hanging out. Yeah, that's exactly what I thought. So how did everything go at the play? So everything goes fine. We had a great conversation. We enjoyed the show, whatever. So I take her back home, and when we get back to her apartment, instead of just saying goodnight, she invites me in.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Okay. That's a good sign, right? Yeah, that's like the biggest sign. Anytime a friend of mine has invited me into their apartment, stuff always happens. Yeah. I mean, no, but yeah. So I still wasn't thinking that it was romantic at all okay I just thought okay yeah she just wants to hang out some more great
Starting point is 00:03:32 and she said something about cooking me dinner okay all right I mean that starts to sound like a date to me yeah but at this point I wasn't trying to put anything on it I didn't want to make it weird. I was like, okay, dinner, great. Okay, so hold on. Just to clarify, were you actually interested in her before this night? I mean, yeah. I thought she was really cute. Okay, so when she made you dinner, you were probably like, sweet.
Starting point is 00:03:58 Yeah, I was. I thought, you know, worst case scenario, I get free dinner. Right? It's a win-win. Yeah, all right. Yeah, so we go up. She cooks me dinner. We eat. And then she goes,. Right? It's a win-win. Yeah. All right. Yeah. So we go up. She cooks me dinner. We eat.
Starting point is 00:04:07 And then she goes, do you want to watch a movie? Wow. All right. Dude. Yeah. This all sounds like more than a friend experience. That sounds like a date to me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:15 That's exactly what I started thinking at this point. Okay. Well, I started putting it all together. Okay. She said yes to go into the play. She invited me into her house. She cooked me dinner. And now she wants to watch a movie.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Yeah. Yeah. That's a great date. Okay and now she wants to watch a movie. Yeah. Yeah. That's a great date. Okay. So then she puts on a movie. I don't even remember what movie it was at this point. I'm not thinking about.
Starting point is 00:04:33 It was a movie. I've never heard of it. I don't care. I'm not even thinking about the movie. It doesn't matter. Yeah, you're not even watching. You're just in your head like, oh my God,
Starting point is 00:04:41 I'm on a date with her. I'm on a date. Yeah. I would have watched an hour of a free frame of a pencil i didn't care all right that's cool that's exciting then you had to feel happy about that yeah so then she says let me go change okay so i'm sitting on the couch she goes into her bedroom and then she comes out in basically pajamas, but kind of like, you know how sometimes women like to sleep in boxer shorts and a t-shirt? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:10 That's what she's wearing. So she goes to change and then comes back in something skimpy. Yes. That's pretty intimate, though, to be in her sleeping clothes. Yes. At this point, I'm like, oh my God, yes, this is a date. Sweet. So you said in your email that you're not sure, though.
Starting point is 00:05:27 Why? I mean, this is definitely a date. Okay. So she sits down on the couch next to me, like real close next to me. And she puts a blanket over both of us. Okay. And so halfway through this movie that I'm not even paying attention to, I think, well, if I don't do something, I'm going to lose the opportunity. Yeah, dude. So did you make a move? I think, well, if I don't do something, I'm going to lose the opportunity. Right.
Starting point is 00:05:46 So did you make a move? So I do the thing where I like, I kind of put my hand on the opposite side of her face, the side opposite for me. Wait, what? And I kind of draw her in. Okay. I just started, you started that and I was like, so you do your trick and you just grab her face. Is that what you do?
Starting point is 00:06:01 No, no, no, no. You know, like you kind of put your hand like gently on her chin or something okay just kind of guide her face towards yours i wasn't like ah you know yeah all right so trying to get a kiss yeah and she turns her face towards mine just sort of guided by my hand and then all of a sudden she starts making this noise and turning away from me and she's just going oh no like that okay so imm, mm-mm, mm-mm. Oh, no. Like that. Okay. And so I take my hand off of her chin,
Starting point is 00:06:29 and then we just watch the rest of this stupid movie. And now I'm going, she didn't want to kiss me. Did she bring it up to you at all? Did she mention anything about it? No, she didn't say a word. And, I mean, I left pretty quickly after that. Yeah, that would be pretty embarrassing.
Starting point is 00:06:44 I give you it's a bold move to go in for that kiss, but it's like the worst case scenario that you get rejected. Yeah, it was really awkward. And I actually wanted to talk about what had happened the other night, and she said no. Just like no, like no other explanation?
Starting point is 00:06:59 Yeah, she just said no, nothing else. Wow. Okay, and is that the last thing you've heard from her, or have you guys tried to talk about it at all? No, we haven't talked about it at all. Yikes. Dude, I don't know. I just think you misread the situation.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Now I really want to do the second part of this second date update, because I do have to know if this was a date or not. Yeah, well, believe me, me too. Well, we'll play a song, come back, call her, and get your second date update, okay? Great. Hey, hey, hey, okay? Great. Right in the middle of a second date update, and we don't know if it's a date actually still. We're trying to figure that out. If you missed the first part, Darren is on the phone, and he wants to call Renee.
Starting point is 00:07:43 Renee is a friend of his, and they went out one night to see a play and then got back to her house, and she made him dinner and then decided to watch a movie together, and she got in her boxer shorts and put a blanket over him. And then at that point he was like, this is awesome. I'm on a date with Renee now. And so they were in the middle of the movie, and he tried to kiss her, and that's when she said no and she hasn't talked to
Starting point is 00:08:05 him since so we're still not really sure if that was even a date but we do know that renee has pissed at him for some reason it's so confusing my one question though is when she got into her boxer outfit makeup on or took the makeup off um you're asking if she had makeup on she was in a t-shirt and boxers. I have no idea. Yeah. Good point. At that point, you're not really paying attention. I should have asked if she had a bra on.
Starting point is 00:08:31 It's maybe the better question for you. I could tell you that. She did not. Okay. Oh, she did. All right. Oh, man. That is some mixed signals, girlfriend. I know.
Starting point is 00:08:38 All right. Well, I'm going to call her right now and see if we can get an answer. Are you ready? Please. Okay. Hello? Hi, can I speak to Renee, please? This is her.
Starting point is 00:08:55 Hey, what's up, Renee? How are you? This is Jubal from Brick and Jubal in the Morning. What? This is Jubal from Brick and Jubal in the Morning. The radio? Well, I'm a person.
Starting point is 00:09:05 But, yes. I love you guys. I listen to Jubal in the Morning. The radio? Well, I'm a person. But yes. I love you guys. I listen to you guys all the time. Really? Okay. Well, yeah, this is the radio show. It is Brook and Jubal in the Morning.
Starting point is 00:09:14 Oh, my gosh. Well, if you listen to us all the time, then you've probably heard a second date update before, right? Wait, what? Yeah. Congratulations. Wait, you guys are calling me about a date that I went on? Yeah. Yeah. Congratulations. Wait, you guys are calling me about a date that I went on? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:28 I haven't been on any dates with anyone. All right. Well, that kind of answers the question for us then because Darren, who I guess is your buddy, thought that maybe you were on a date the other day. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. I'm so embarrassed. Well, he emailed us because he said that when you guys went out, he thought it turned into a date. Oh.
Starting point is 00:09:51 And then he told us about how he tried to kiss you and you turned him down and then he left and you haven't talked to him since. Yeah, it's just kind of awkward. So you never really liked Darren in that way is what you're saying. I mean, he's cute. I've always thought Darren was cute, but what did he tell you guys? Well, he said that you guys went out to see a play and then went back to your place, and then that's when he started feeling like you guys were on a date because you made him dinner and then got on your sleeping stuff and then put a blanket over you guys and watched a movie.
Starting point is 00:10:21 It all sounded very date-ish to me. I mean, yeah, all that happened. But at first it was just friends hanging out. Oh, so wait. You mean at first, like, you had intentions at some point, your intentions switched from friends to something else? Yeah, I guess so. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:10:37 So you guys were both on the same page at some point? We were having fun, and I was just kind of going with things. At some point, I thought, this could be a date. Okay. So why are you calling him back then? Oh, my gosh. Things got so awkward at the end of the night. Okay.
Starting point is 00:10:55 Wait, during the kiss? Like, you didn't want to kiss him? That's when it got awkward? I can't believe he told you about that. It's not embarrassing for you. It's embarrassing for him because you shot him down big time, it sounds like. It was just so awkward. We were watching this movie and the family dog had just died.
Starting point is 00:11:13 What? And it was a shih tzu like I used to have when I was a kid and I started crying. And then he just like put his hand on my face in this weird way. Oh my God. It was just such a weird way and time to kiss someone so he kissed you when you were crying over the death of the dog in the movie yes did he notice that you were crying obviously he didn't i mean who tries to kiss someone after a dog just dies in a movie hey i don't know what his thing is you know that, that could be his thing. No, Chris. Girl, that's not a thing.
Starting point is 00:11:46 I know who does know, Renee. Oh, my gosh. I forgot. Is he on the phone right now? Yes, he is. Hey, Renee. Oh, hey, Darren. Wow.
Starting point is 00:12:01 Okay, so, yeah, bad timing on my part. Yeah. To be fair, as soon as I saw you in what you were wearing, I wasn't even paying attention to the movie. And I didn't know that a dog died in that movie. Oh, dude! Yeah, a dog died in that movie right before you tried to kiss me. There was a child crying.
Starting point is 00:12:25 Yeah, I feel really bad. I had no idea that you were kind of in an emotional place when I did that. So I guess now we can understand why she was like, no, don't kiss me. Don't kiss me.
Starting point is 00:12:38 It definitely makes a lot more sense now. I feel kind of bad now because I haven't been responding to your text messages. I know, I'm wondering that too. I feel kind of bad now because I just haven't been responding to your text messages. I know, I'm wondering that too. I mean, like, yeah, bad timing on a kiss, but it's not a reason not to call somebody back. It was just so weird and so awkward. I just didn't
Starting point is 00:12:55 want to deal with it. Yeah. You know what would be really cool? If you gave me a second chance, maybe we got together and watched another movie. This time maybe it could be Beethoven. The dog lived the whole time. That's a good idea.
Starting point is 00:13:13 See, observant. He is observant. Renee, would you like to go out on another date with Darren? We'll pay for it. Come on. I would. That sounds like a lot of fun. Really?
Starting point is 00:13:23 Awesome. Okay, and this will be a date the whole way through a lot of fun. Really? Awesome. Okay, and this will be a date the whole way through? The whole time, yes. Awesome. Yeah, and I know we don't want to replicate the first date, but can you still wear that outfit? You tried to kiss me after a dog bite. Don't push your luck, okay, Darren?
Starting point is 00:13:40 Yeah. Darren, tread lightly. All right, well, congratulations. You guys got a second date. Thanks. I really appreciate that. Yeah, Darren, tread lightly. All right, well, congratulations. You guys got a second date. Thanks, I really appreciate that. Yeah, no problem. And Darren, next time you try to kiss her right before it, FaceTime me so I can let you know if it's okay.
Starting point is 00:13:54 I'll have you on speed dial. Thanks. Brooke and Jubal in the morning. Text in at 78592 says, I'll totally date that guy. Movies about dead dogs don't bother me one bit. Brooke and Jubal in the morning. That was obviously taped while Brooke was still here. Brooke is out on maternity leave and Jackie is filling in.
Starting point is 00:14:14 But if you missed today's second date update, this dude named Darren wanted to call a girl named Renee. They're actually kind of friends. And they were hanging out one night at what he thought was a friend date. And then it got more serious after they were done watching a play and stuff. They went back to her place. She made dinner. And then she got into her comfy clothes,
Starting point is 00:14:32 got on the couch, put a blanket over both of them. And then he was like, oh my God, this is an actual date. I've got to make my move. I'm getting it. So they were sitting there watching a movie and he says he was so nervous he wasn't really paying attention to much,
Starting point is 00:14:44 just wondering when he was going to make his move. Then he leaned over to kiss her and she said, no, no, no, no, no, no. And then it was awkward after that. And he left and she wasn't calling back and he was wondering why. Well, we found out the reason that she wasn't calling him back was because during the movie there was a dog that died, like the family dog, whatever movie they were watching. And she was kind of crying a little bit. And that's the moment that he went in for the kiss. As soon as her tears
Starting point is 00:15:10 started to flow from the dead dog. Yeah, that's just really bizarre timing. Like, that's not smart. Yeah, that's just really bad timing. Like, oh, I can see that you're all broken up about this. Hey, screw that dog, though. Screw your crying. Let's make out. I do feel
Starting point is 00:15:25 like maybe in some people's minds they think i'm gonna comfort you yeah yeah and then it seems creepy yeah and that's even creepier if you're doing it on purpose yeah you know yeah because yeah they're they're vulnerable and then you're going in yeah let me wipe that tear away and then just move in on the tear away with my tongue, how about I just kiss those tears off your cheek? So she felt awkward and wasn't calling him back. We got him on the phone. They talked about it. And he told her that he didn't mean to try to kiss her
Starting point is 00:15:55 after the dog had died. And they decided to go on another date, an actual date. Yay! That could work out. Where they both know it's a date. Yeah. Really rare that we actually have a successful second date update where the two agree to go out. And they did actually agree to go out.
Starting point is 00:16:11 Remember, if you want to do a second date update, all you have to do is email the show and we will call the person that didn't call you back. Moving 92.5. We're so done with New Year, New You. This year, it's more you on Bumble. More of you shamelessly sending playlists, especially that one filled with show tunes. More of you finding Gemini's because you know you always like them. More of you dating with intention because you know what you want.
Starting point is 00:16:40 And you know what? We love that for you. Someone else will too. Be more you this year and find them on Bumble. racked up, well, you could use our help. That's right. I'm Joel. And I am Matt. And we're from the How To Money podcast. Our show is all about helping you make sense of your personal finances so you can ditch your pesky credit card debt once and for all, make real progress on other crucial financial goals that you've got, and just feel more in control of your money in general. You know it. For money advice without the judgment and jargon, listen to How To Money on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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