Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - Second Date Update PODCAST: Rooftop Romance
Episode Date: June 19, 2013How could a woman NOT fall for a first date has a rooftop dinner, a man in a tuxedo and a LOVE POEM? Find out why Elizabeth isn't calling Matthew back in the PODCAST. (Image Courtesy: ZakVTA. Creativ...e Commons)See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Persistence usually pays off.
That's why if you want a second date update, all you have to do is just email us a bunch and basically beg, and we'll eventually do it.
So persistence pays off or gets you a restraining order, one of the two.
That's what happened with Matthew.
Matthew pretty much has emailed us nonstop begging us to do a second date update.
Matthew, begging isn't a very, you know, attractive thing.
What's going on?
Fair enough, but this is really important to me.
I've met an absolutely stunning and wonderful, wonderful woman.
What did you like about her so much?
Everything. Ever since we met, we actually, I mean, it's 2013, so say what you will,
but we met online. And every single message just got better and better with like having common interests and our plans for the future and where our careers are headed and with children and everything. I just could feel my heart growing, you know, with each interaction.
And I just was kind of falling in love with this chick.
What's her name, by the way?
Her name is Elizabeth.
Elizabeth.
So obviously I had to meet her and we set up a date.
Where'd you guys go on your date?
I invited her over to my place and I set up a really really romantic rooftop dinner.
I had the tux.
I hired a chef. There was music
playing. The whole nine.
And when she walked up
and saw everything set up, she kind of took a nice
deep breath. She seemed shocked by it.
And it was wonderful. She's like, am I on The Bachelor?
What?
Was she wearing a full gown?
No, no. I mean, she was dressed very nicely, but I was certainly to the nines.
Okay. Outdressed his date.
Did you warn her that you were going to wear tux?
No, no. It was all a surprise.
What was her reaction to all of this craziness?
She seemed to really enjoy it and be appreciative.
I mean, she was a little bit kind of like, wow, this is a lot of planning and everything.
But after she kind of got acclimated to the space and everything.
It sounds like you just took a puppy home after it got used to the space.
Sorry, continue.
Well, I mean, you know, it's a lot to take in.
I thought it was really lovely.
What was your line?
I feel like you probably had some lines
planned out for this girl since you had such high
expectations. I didn't have
any lines planned out, but well,
I wrote some lines. I wrote her
a poem. Of course.
Really?
A haiku? Shakespeare?
Yeah, why not? Let's hear the poem.
Oh, you guys want to hear the poem?
Yeah, absolutely.
Well, alright, it's pretty simple, but I think it's hear the poem. Oh, you guys want to hear the poem? Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Well, all right.
It's pretty simple, but I think it's nice.
All right.
All right.
Here we go.
L is for the laughter we will always share.
O is for the options to show you I care.
V is for the visions of hope stirring in my head.
And E is for everything we'll do together before we're both dead.
I am sold.
When did you deliver the poem to her?
I delivered the poem right after we had dessert.
You don't think maybe that's a little much?
Dude. It's always good to talk about death in your first date, you know?
What did she say?
I just
Y'all are naysaying my poem
I think that you guys just don't understand
What it's like to be in love with someone
What did she say? What was her response?
She said thank you
And she seemed to enjoy it
She was smiling
And then she hugged me
And said that she'd be in touch
And that the whole evening was really romantic and she was appreciative of it.
But no kiss?
No, no kiss.
But that doesn't mean anything.
I think it means a lot.
It means a whole hell of a lot.
After you go through the trouble of doing all that and a poem and everything and you don't get a kiss, it might mean it kind of rubbed her the wrong way a little bit.
Well, I'm not playing for the moment.
I'm playing for the future.
You are the most optimistic man
I think we have ever come across.
Yeah.
What are you hoping to tell her
if we get a hold of her, I guess?
I just want to tell
her that I'm still thinking about her and that
I would like to have another date with her.
Alright, you ready to give her a call then?
Yeah, yeah, I would love to.
I would love that. Alright, here's my little poem.
H is for hold.
O is for on.
And then I don't have anything else to go with for like three and a half minutes.
So hold on for like three and a half minutes,
and then we'll call her and see if we can get your second date update, okay?
Okay, I'm looking forward to it.
That was beautiful.
Thanks.
Moving 92.5.
Brooke and Jubal in the Morning's Second Date Update. You know, a lot of women would love a date like Matthew planned for Elizabeth.
Maybe like four or five months into the relationship, though.
Not on a first date.
If you missed the first part of the Second Date Update,
what we know about Matthew's date is he invited Elizabeth up to his rooftop deck,
hired a chef, dressed in a
tuxedo. What else did you do, Matthew? I had music playing and I had the sunset timed out perfectly
with dinner. It was all, you know, kind of, yeah. What's the main thing that you did though at the
end of it? I read her a poem. He wrote a poem for her at the end of the date. I forgot to ask. Did you drop the L-bomb?
Well, in the poem, yes.
Oh.
Remember?
L is for, O is for.
It's all love there. Yeah, so it's spelled out love.
Yeah, it's spelled out love, right.
Have you done this before for girls?
Do you, is this your thing?
I mean, like I said before,
I've been looking for someone for the future,
and this person seems to be on the same lines
of planning and everything.
Can't argue with a man that knows what he wants.
All right.
You ready to give her a call?
Yes, absolutely.
Before I do this, I just want to make sure I'm not, like,
violating any kind of restraining order by doing this.
No, no.
All right.
Because he lies.
Hold on, okay?
Hello? Hi, is Elizabeth there? hello hi is elizabeth there hey how are you this is jubel from brook and jubel in the morning i'm moving 92.5 okay hi any idea why i might be calling you uh no do you remember going on a No.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, my goodness. He emailed us to ask why you're not calling him back. He really wants to go out with you again and wonders if he did something wrong or if maybe the date was too much.
I mean, it was the craziest first date I've ever had.
It was so over the top.
Were you surprised in a good way?
What were you feeling?
I mean, I'm not used to that.
It felt a little like I was being set up for something.
I don't know.
It felt weird.
It felt not real.
Right.
Did you hear about the poem?
Yeah.
Yeah, I did.
I was just about to ask you what you thought of that.
I don't know if he made it up or he just recited it,
but that part freaked me out.
Women just don't appreciate romance anymore.
Oh, my gosh.
It's so upsetting.
Yeah, it's weird how we get freaked out when you tell us you love us on the first date.
I'd be scared that he had duct tape somewhere.
Exactly.
I was like, oh, my God, is there going to be, like, a priest that pops up and performs a marriage ceremony?
He was like, ready for me to move in with him.
Hey, Elizabeth?
Yeah?
I should let you know that Matthew is actually on the phone with us and heard everything you just said.
Hi, Elizabeth. How are you?
Shocked, I guess.
Well, based on your description of the overtopness of the date, I guess you're probably not surprised that this is happening either, huh?
Good point.
You were listening.
Oh, God.
I'm so embarrassed.
You don't need to be embarrassed.
I'm not trying to embarrass you.
I'm just wondering, listening in now, you said that people don't normally do this kind of thing.
And my whole motivation was to make the evening special and different and out of the realm of normality.
Well, it was different.
This is the kind of a person that I am,
and I guess that through all of the talking online,
I felt that we had made a really great connection.
I really appreciate the effort you put into it.
It was just too much.
I just feel so, I don't know.
So what would you like to do when we
get together next?
I'll let you make the suggestion
and we'll do it your style.
I'm going to positive thinking.
He has nothing but positive thinking.
He needs to slow down a little bit.
I don't know what to do or say right now.
I don't know.
Matthew, do you feel like you're maybe pressuring her a little bit too much?
The goal is not to pressure anyone, of course,
but you guys are talking about positive thinking like it's a negative thing.
Yeah, but you're telling her that you're going on a date again
instead of even asking her.
Like you said, it's positive thinking.
I speak in a way that leads toward what i hope to achieve you know
what you're a direct man and when you want something you go after it you never take no
for an answer matthew is a go-getter and elizabeth matthew wants you i'm not that didn't help did it
i think i would prefer to be friends or something Or something? Well, I mean, you know, friendship is the basis of any relationship, right?
Elizabeth, don't lie.
You do not want to be friends with him.
You are just afraid to be mean right now.
Now you're just leading the poor man on.
Be honest with him.
Okay.
No, that's not fair.
See, this is where I feel bad for you, Matthew, because guys can't win either way.
You can either be too much, not show that you're interested, and then girls are like,
he didn't even seem interested in me.
Then when you actually go, hey, I like you so much that I'm going to hire a chef, I'm
going to write a little poem, I'm going to do a big, and then a girl's like, that's way
too much.
Yeah, there's some sort of happy median in between the two.
You realize that?
Well, you know, I don't know.
Brooke, you tell me.
Is your typical date being taken out to a sports bar to sit next to a guy who's going to be yelling at a television screen?
Or do you want somebody who's going to be focusing on you and learning about who you are?
Okay, but ask Elizabeth.
Ask Elizabeth because, Elizabeth, do you feel like he learned anything about you?
Or did you feel like he was just trying to plan a future with
you the entire time? No I don't
feel like Matthew I don't feel like you're going to even know me
at all and not everything
is like a tuxedo night.
Okay well this point I'd like to say
that you're going to go out on a second date
with Matthew. We're going to pay for it.
What do you think?
What do you guys think I should do?
I think that you're going out on a second date with Matthew. We will pay for it. What do you think? What do you guys think I should do? I think that you're going out on a
second date with Matthew. We will pay
for it. Really? You need to give him another shot.
I'm on Jubal's side.
Of course you are, Matthew.
Matthew, do you understand that you were too over the
top? Yes,
absolutely. I understand.
I've learned
a lot from this experience, for sure.
Elizabeth, he's learned from his mistakes,
and he's ready to take you out on a normal date.
We'll pay for it.
Do it.
I, oh, he just makes me, I, no.
He makes me, it sounded like you were going to say he makes me squirm.
Sorry, Matthew, no.
Oh.
All right, I guess that, I guess that I'm learning that the ladies just want to be treated super regular.
Yep, they do.
And that's what I've been trying to tell dudes forever.
Why do you guys do that?
Just treat them regular.
All right?
Make it easy on yourself.
Keep everything as average as possible.
Oh, my gosh.
Learn today.
Do something nice, but don't go so far.
If the poem was better, you'd probably go out with him again, right?
Let's just face it.
The poem sucked.
Broken Jubal in the morning.
Aren't you something to admire?
Could you shine?
Ugh.
We're so done with New Year, New You.
This year, it's more you on Bumble.
More of you shamelessly sending playlists, especially that one filled with show tunes.
More of you finding Gemini's because you know you always like them.
More of you dating with intention because you know what you want.
And you know what?
We love that for you.
Someone else will too.
Be more you this year and find them on Bumble.
Joel, the holidays are a blast, but the financial hangover, that can be a huge bummer.
If you are out there and you're dreading the new statement email that reveals the massive balance that you may have racked up, well, you could use our help.
That's right.
I'm Joel.
And I am Matt.
And we're from the How To Money Podcast. Our show is all about helping you make sense of your personal finances so you can ditch
your pesky credit card debt once and for all, make real progress on other crucial financial
goals that you've got, and just feel more in control of your money in general. You know it.
For money advice without the judgment and jargon, listen to How To Money on the iHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you you in 2025.
I'll be joined by David Roth of Defector and the writer Edward Ongueso Jr.
With guest appearances from Behind the Bastards' Robert Evans,
It Could Happen Here's Gare Davis, and a few surprise guests throughout the show.
Listen to Better Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever else you get your podcasts from.