Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - Second Date Update PODCAST: Schools NOT for Fools

Episode Date: April 18, 2018

Having your date postponed once or twice is understandable. But when a guy pushes back your date 5 times, you know SOMETHING fishy is going on. One of our listeners wanted to know why it kept happening.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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What will you do? LASIK at evergreen.com. Moving 92.5. Rook and Jubal's second date update. You know what's more annoying than being just blown off for a date? What's that? Somebody constantly scheduling with you and then changing it over and over and over and over again. Because it's like, why can't you just be honest and say, I don't want to go out with you, instead of constantly stringing me along and being like, I can't go out today,

but how about like two weeks from now? And then you schedule two weeks from now, oh my God, something else came up. That's the issue that Jill is having. Jill is on the phone today for a second date update. She emailed us about a guy named Sam that she met online. Jill, how are you? I'm good. How are you guys?

So that seems to be the issue, huh? Sam is just kind of stringing you along. Yeah, he just keeps pushing things further and further away from me and I just don't understand why. Okay, well how did you meet him, first of all? We met online. You did? I thought he was super nice, and we had talked for a few weeks before we actually decided to meet,

but we did have, like, good conversations throughout that time. Was it a dinner and drinks type of situation? Yeah, yeah, it was a dinner date. Okay. And he was just super nice and handsome, and I was just, like, really excited about it. But there was, like, a red flag. Uh-oh. What was that?

I really thought he was a good guy, so I was giving him every signal I could think of to try and get him to kiss me. Yeah, you're, like, touching his arm. You're pushing your boobs together. You're trying to scoot over closer to him. Yes, yes. You know, the shuffling of the keys at my car door, like everything. Oh, that's the worst.

When you're standing there and just waiting. Yes, and even more embarrassing is that there was a point where I was literally like inches away from him, like our toes were touching. Okay, and he just was not getting it. No, no.

And all he could muster was like, yeah, let's hang out this weekend. In his defense, maybe he's just a guy that gets nervous in that situation. Or maybe he doesn't kiss on the first date. There are some guys like that. That is very rare. Usually guys

don't kiss on the first date because they're scared to go in for it. I've been in that situation, too, where I can tell a girl wants to kiss you really bad, but still in the back of your head, you're like, no, I don't think she went out. I don't think she enjoyed herself enough to do it. I'm not going to do it. Then the date is over, and you're like, damn it. I missed the opportunity.

Really? I hope that's what happened. Why didn't you just kiss him, Jill? What kept you from doing that? I felt like I was trying to make all the moves to get him to know that I was interested. So him like not reciprocating in the same way, I felt like nervous about it because I'm like, I'm not going to just, you know, jump on him because I was giving him all these signals. Do you feel like he didn't want to kiss you? I don't know. That's what I don't understand. Like, I thought it was a good sign that he said,

all right, let's hang out this weekend. So I'm like, okay, so he doesn't not have an interest in me. He does because he wants to see me more. And anytime you refer to future plans, it's always a good sign. If we call this guy and get him on the phone and he says, dude, she just was like a close talker, especially at the end of the night, like she was jingling her keys in my face.

Her breath was just terrible and I thought about kissing her and she just smells funny. Are you going to be upset? Of course, but I would at least like to know because he keeps making these future plans but then they just keep getting pushed like every three days.

Like the day comes and then he's like, sorry, I forgot about this with work or whatever. Let's hang out a couple days from now and then that day comes and then he's like, sorry, I forgot about this with work or whatever. Let's hang out a couple days from now. And then that day comes and you're like, you're just going to kill me. But this and this came up. How many times has he rescheduled? Five times.

Do you think he's just flaky or do you think that he's trying to not see you? I don't know. I usually think that like you would just stop responding or send me a text and it just didn't work out or whatever. But don't keep rescheduling. And I just really want help with it because I don't know what went wrong. I'm a person who overbooks myself and I always screw somebody in the situation and it doesn't feel good. So maybe it's just that, you know, he has a couple more priorities over you right now because you've only gone on one date. Yeah, and I understand that. I just would want to know that that's the truth and not feel like he's just stringing me along.

You know what I mean? Totally. So you're kind of in that weird limo spot where you're like, okay, is he really that busy or is he blowing me off? Exactly. Okay, well, we'll play a song, come back, call him, and get your second date update, and hopefully we can find the answer for you, okay? Okay, thank you so much. All right, hang on. All right, Jill, you ready to go with your second date update?

Yeah. Okay, I do have to tell you, unfortunately, I'm going to need to reschedule your second date update for three days from now, okay? That's all right. Don't do that to me. If you're just tuning in, Jill wants us to call this guy named Sam. They met online, had a nice date. At the end of the date, he kind of chickened out in kissing her. But they made plans to go out again, and he's been blowing her off constantly just rescheduling the date.

He hasn't actually said he doesn't want to see her again so we're gonna give him a call see if we can get him on the phone and ask if he's legitimately busy and has to switch the date every time because he's switching now five times is that right Jill? Yeah five. He's switched your date five times so we're gonna see if he's actually busy or if he really is just blowing her off and if he is legitimately busy you want us to try to nail down a date so you guys can actually go out? Actually, I just want to find out

where he is right now and then I'll just meet him right now. That's even a better idea. Like, if we get him on the phone, he's like, no, I'm really busy. I'm just, dude, stay where you are. I'm going to get her a car to come meet you right now.

I like your plan a lot. Okay, I'm going to call him right now and see if we can get him on the phone. Mm-hmm. Hello? Hey, is Sam there? Yeah, this is he. Sam, how are you?

This is Jubal from Brook and Jubal in the Morning. Okay, hey. Are you familiar with our show at all? I mean, kind of Okay Well, I'm calling you because I have something to ask you about You recently went out with a girl named Jill Who listens to our show Um, yeah, I did

Okay, and Jill emailed us And told us a little about meeting you told us about your date said that she liked you a lot she says that you guys have tried to schedule meetings to go out again and every single time the date comes up you switch it for a couple days like you've blown her off five times now and she's wondering if you actually really want to go out again or if you are not into her and you're just afraid to tell her that no i'm not blowing her off i've texted her okay i'm just busy i'm really busy that was her worry because she told us that you've texted her and you'd like change the date every single time that you guys are supposed to go out yeah i mean i i work i'm i'm busy i mean she's a nice girl She's great. I just have a lot to do right now. But you can see how she'd think that you're blowing her off, right?

Are you really that busy? Yes, I'm busy, guys. I mean, why are you questioning like I'm lying? Well, I don't know. Just because, Sam, I don't mean to. I've been in the situation before where I've either done that to somebody or somebody has done that to me, and you feel like, man, they just don't want to see me again so Jill emailed us to call you and ask if you didn't want to see her again so you do want to see Jill again

yes of course I mean she was she's great she's pretty she's awesome I just I'm busy right now you know we have to find the time what are you so so busy with? I mean, I know you work, but five times is a lot. Are you just kind of nervous around her? It's understandable if you are. I mean, I'm kind of, like, uncomfortable about this, so I can tell you guys what's going on if you promise you just kind of, like, stop questioning me about it, writing me about it, because it's making me a little awkward. For sure, man.

Like, I just want to let Jill know that you actually like her so we can get you guys in the same place at the same time, like you've been trying to do. You can let her. Maybe it'll help if you let her know that I do want to see her again. It's just there's a reason why I'm taking it slow. It's because I did get out of a relationship a couple months back, split from my ex, and she emailed me, and she told me the reason why she broke up with me

is because she said I was a bad kisser. Oh, all right. That sucks. So you got broken up with because you're a bad kisser, and that's why you are scared to kiss Jill? Yes. You know that can't be a real reason and that your ex is just trying to hurt your feelings, right? I mean, she seemed pretty specific in the email, so I don't, you know.

Yeah, that would suck. Somebody can say they don't like your personality, but then to be like, oh, you're a terrible kisser, so bad that I couldn't stay with you, that's got to stick with you for a little while. It does, it does, and that's why I'm trying to get better at it. That's what I'm doing right now is trying to get better at it.

You're trying to get better? Kissing your hand a lot? What do you mean you're trying to get better at it. You're trying to get better at it? Are you kissing your hand a lot? What do you mean you're trying to get better at it? There's a school that helps you with that. It's a kissing school. What? Are you being real? Yes.

That's why I've been trying to change the date back because I've been busy going to school to have, like, workshops. You're kidding me. Sam, you're going to a kissing school? Yeah. This is why, you know, this is why I'm uncomfortable about it. It's like I tell people, you know,

if I tell somebody, they're not going to believe me or they think it's a joke or something. It's like, no, it's real. That's awesome. This really exists. It's not like you're meeting somebody in the back alley, right?

No, no, no. This is a legit real school. It costs me $3 bucks to sign up. Oh my God. And you know, they offer you workshops and there's one-on-one lessons and all that. And it takes a little bit of time. And once I'm done, that's when I'll, you know, I'll call Jill and we'll go back out. Sam, good for you, man. Like, you know what? Thank you for sharing that with us. I appreciate it. I know, like you said, you feel embarrassed about that, But if you feel like you were a bad kisser and you didn't want to kiss her, I would think that a girl would be flattered by the fact that you just paid $375 to go get classes to learn how to kiss her right.

Yeah. Honestly, that's what I'm hoping for. So, I mean, if you guys can tell her I want to see her again, I definitely told her. But if maybe you can kind of back me up, that would be great. Sam, you know what? Why don't you just tell her because she's actually on the phone listening. Wait, what? Jill just listened to our conversation.

Oh, I had no idea that that was the reason. What's going on here? It's called a second date update. We do it on our show where we call somebody who went on a date with one of our listeners and they think they're being blown off and we ask them what happened. We have that person listen on the other line to see if we can get an answer. And Jill just heard

you say that you're going to a kissing school so hopefully you can kiss her better if you guys ever go out again. Please tell me this is like make-believe and joke. It's not make-believe. You poor baby. I'm so sorry you had to go through that.

You know, this is really embarrassing for me. I mean, I screwed up somewhere in the past. Obviously, I'm just trying to fix it, but I'll do it again with you. Sam, you make it sound like you're a drug addict who had a problem and then fell. You just were told by an ex that you don't kiss that well. It's not like a problem you had in your past. I think you're going to be okay, man.

Is it kissing rehab? Yeah. I mean, I actually think it's really cool that you're trying to look into it and make yourself feel more confident about it, and you don't even have to worry about it. I'm not going to pressure you or anything. This is awesome.

But, I mean, that's the thing. I mean, I enjoyed our time. I really do like you, Jill. I enjoyed going out with you, and I don't want to ruin it by, you know, being a bad kisser. Because it's like, she thought I was bad, and, you know, if you think I'm bad, then you don't want to go out with me anymore. And it's like, you know. No.

No. I understand why there would be a fear there, but I really, it can't be so bad that I would not. Sam, it would find it hard to believe that you're that bad of a kisser. That Jill's going to kiss you one time after she already likes you from your first date, and then she's just going to go running for the hills. Like, oh my god, that was terrible. I doubt that you're that bad of a kisser. I thought I wasn't that bad before, but clearly

someone broke up with me. You gotta be way better now. And it's sometimes like it's just that two people's chemistry doesn't work well together. And maybe it was just you and your ex. Kissing with a different person is different every time. I mean, and think of all the cool stuff you've learned. Yeah, I mean,

the classes have been good and I really feel more comfortable doing it. I just want it to be perfect, you know. They say first kiss is always like that big thing, you know. Sam, I have an idea Why don't you save the rest of your? $375 and we just go out on dates, and then we can practice

That's a good idea Jill Sam would you like to go out with Jill again on a second date? We will pay for it Of course I mean yeah, okay,. And before your classes are done at the kissing school, I want you guys to go out soon. Okay, yeah, I can do that. I mean, I would rather practice with her than spend money. Yeah, there you go. Extra credit, Sam.

So you'll go out with Jill again. Absolutely, I want to. Jill, I'm assuming you want to be his kissing coach from this point on. Oh, of course. Alright, well, congratulations then, you guys. Jill, I'm assuming you want to be his kissing coach from this point on. Oh, of course. All right. Congratulations then, you guys. Jill, you got your second date. We'll send you guys out again.

Woo! Yay! Woo! And if before you guys get more intimate and he suddenly disappears, he's like, I was going to a sex school trying to figure out how to... I would not recommend another date after that, okay? Broken Jubal in the morning. The text in at 78592

says, that's so sweet, I almost cried. Really? Enjoy the kissing classes, cutie pies, is what it says. It's Brooke and Jubal in the morning, and we're talking about the second date update. If you missed it, Jill went out with a dude named Scott once, and after that date, he kept being

kind of elusive and postponing the second meetup. In fact, he rescheduled five different times. And Jill thought, of course, she was being blown off and couldn't figure out why because they had such a great time. And we got Scott on the phone and he revealed that the reason that he kept promising a date and then changing

it is because he enrolled himself in a kissing class to improve his kissing skills. He said he had an ex who recently said the reason she dumped him is because he's a horrible kisser, so he's trying to fix that. I just have so many questions about these kissing schools. I know, I didn't

know they existed at all. Jill thought the reason was endearing and cute, and of course wanted to go out with him again, if he learns to be a better kisser. I wonder how bad he really was, too. I know. I mean,

would you really have to pay to have someone teach you? That's pretty bad. Just keep doing it, man. You'll get better, I think. Well, I don't know. I've had a couple boyfriends and I'm like,

that's not ever gonna improve. There's some people who never get better at it at all. That's true. So they're gonna go out again. Remember, if you want a second date update,

all you have to do is email the show and we will call the person who didn't call you back. Move at 92.5. Ugh, we're so done with new year, new you. This year, it's more you on Bumble. More of you shamelessly sending playlists, especially that one filled with show tunes.

More of you finding Gemini's because you know you always like them. More of you dating with intention because you know what you want. And you know what? We love that for you. Someone else will too. Be more you this year and find them on Bumble. Joel, the holidays are a blast, but the

financial hangover, that can be a huge bummer. If you are out there and you're dreading the new statement email that reveals the massive balance that you may have racked up, well, you could use our help. That's right. I'm Joel. And I am Matt. And we're from the How To Money podcast.

Our show is all about helping you make sense of your personal finances so you can ditch your pesky credit card debt once and for all, make real progress on other crucial financial goals that you've got, and just feel more in control of your money in general. You know it. other crucial financial goals that you've got, and just feel more in control of your money in general. You know it. For money advice without the judgment and jargon, listen to How to Money on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Ed Zittron, host of the Better Offline podcast. And this January, we're going to go on the road to beautiful Las Vegas, Nevada to cover the Consumer Electronics Show, Tech's biggest conference. Better Offline's CES coverage won't be the usual rundown of the hottest gadgets or biggest trends,

but an unvarnished look at what the tech industry plans to sell or do to you in 2025. I'll be joined by David Roth at Defector and the writer Edward Ongueso Jr. with guest appearances from Behind the Bastards, Robert Evans, It Could Happen Here's Gare Davis,

and a few surprise guests throughout the show. Listen to Better Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever else you get your podcasts from.