Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - Second Date Update PODCAST: Sorry The Date Sucked

Episode Date: February 27, 2017

Have you ever gone on a first date and did something so awkward that you WISH you could take back??! Well one of our listeners did just that, in fact, he felt REALLY REALLY bad about the date that he arranged... So much so, that he needs us to get his date on the phone just so he can let her know how Sorry he is...See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Today's second date update is brought to you by The Bare Minimum. If more dudes would learn to do just The Bare Minimum, their dates would go a lot better. You think so? Yes, I do. And proof of that is Steven, who's on the phone right now. He learned that lesson the hard way. What's up, Steven? How are you guys?

Good. You're kicking yourself for not doing the bare minimum, aren't you? Well, yeah. Hindsight's 20-20, but I guess so, yeah. Stop preaching that. Women actually like it when guys put in a little effort. That's what I thought, too, until I went out with Erin. Okay, so that's her name, Erin? Yeah, I met Erin online and learned that lesson quick.

Okay. What did you do for her that backfired so badly? Well, I know I'm not the greatest dater. Like, that's just I'm not very good at it. Okay. But, you know, I wanted to be a little extra creative. So I picked up Erin at her house, and, you know, I wanted to be a little extra creative. So I picked up Erin at her house and, you know, she looked beautiful. I thought she was great. And I told her that I had a surprise

for her. Okay. Oh, I don't know. See, that's the thing. You want something special, but when you say surprise and internet date together, it usually is going to send up some red flags for women. Yeah. I kind of thought that maybe, but, you know, I thought it'd be fun. Just something different instead of just the same old date, just nothing really fun. So I went to the store right before the date on the way there. And I thought it'd be funny if I just picked up like four random things and then said, like, let's just try to incorporate these four things, these random things into our date somehow like uh like yeah like a i don't know a deck of cards and a keg cup and you're just like let's see how we can get it all working to a date yeah i mean kind of but i did get a few other different things so what what

were the things you got because i'm on your side right now well i got um a pair of sandals and then i i picked up like a big red mug clorox bleach and then uh i had a toy car that was like the fourth thing i got how are you gonna work those into a date that was gonna be the fun part all right bleach would have scared me right away exactly i thought he was gonna follow it up with like duct tape and a shovel are the other two things i bought thinking about it now i guess the bleach is kind of weird huh yeah? Yeah, really weird. Yeah, I thought it was fun. I was like, well, if these things are so different from each other, how are they all going to be able to incorporate? I thought it'd be a fun idea. And what was her reaction to all these things? Well, as soon as she saw that, she said no.

Oh, no. Right away. She's like, no, I don't want to do that. And she's very clear. That doesn't sound like something I want to do. So I was like, oh, what do you want to do? I kind of froze up. I had nothing in my mind that would work as a backup plan. So let me get this straight. You could make a date work with bleach, a red mug, sandals. And I can't remember what the other thing was. And you can't make a date work with just like hey let's go somewhere yeah I mean I don't know yeah I guess not I just panicked I had this kind of idea

in my mind that this was going to be this adventure date but it wasn't and it wasn't going to be that way what did the guys actually do she just said like let's just go to a bar and drink and we'll talk and that's what I mean, the bare minimum, Steven. Yeah, well, I wish I would have went that route anyways, but I didn't.

Were you able to recover from the bottle of bleach? The thing was, it was tough. You know, we got to the bar and talked, and I just kind of never really recovered from it. You know, we just never got in a groove at all. Really, I was just in my head the whole time, and I couldn't get out from it. You know, we just never got in a groove at all. Really, I was just in my head the whole time, and I couldn't get out of it. And I kind of was going back to just how I fumbled the ball, you know, right away.

And I just couldn't get in the groove. It was all on me. I just couldn't recover. I feel like you're being too hard on yourself. I mean, you put in some valiant effort. It sounded like, I mean, if she were willing, it could have been a fun experience. Yeah, no, I just, I really don't think she had any fun with me.

That could have happened. So you're trying to get her on the phone to see if you can get a do over. Yeah, I did try for second date. So I did send her flowers the next day. That's nice. And I just said, thanks for coming with me. And I'd love to take you out again. And I did promise her that the second date would be a lot easier and much better. And did you hear anything back from the flowers? I didn't hear anything for two days, and then she did text, and she told me that she was really thankful for the flowers. But it took her two days to write you?

Yeah, it was like a day. I think the flowers got delivered, and then the next, like two days after that, or a day. I think the flowers got delivered, and then the next, like, two days after that or a day after that. And then I replied back to her asking if she wanted to go on that second date, and then I haven't heard anything from her since. Are you sure you just don't want to chalk this up to a bad experience and find another girl online? You know, I thought about that, but I really think about her quite a bit, and I think she's great. And I think that, honestly, that first date, it was so awkward and bad right off the door.

I'm hoping that maybe the second date would just kind of smooth things over and I'd be a little bit more confident in making better choices, I guess, making it a lot easier. All right. Well, play a song, come back, call her, and see if we can get you a second date where you can try to do better. All right? Great.

That's all I want. Thanks. Yep. Step out. Moon 92.5. Brooke and Jubal in the Morning. Second date update. You know what they always say?

When life gets you down, you lay there and make excuses until somebody feels bad for you and tries to help you out. Yeah, I heard that. That's the old saying. It's catchy, too. And Steven is on the phone right now, and he got knocked down by love in the second date update today. He went out with a girl named Erin. He actually had some fun plans to do like a weird date kind of thing. I don't really want to go into the whole recap of it, but he made plans for what he thought was a fun date,

and he thought that she had a horrible time so even after the date He sent her some flowers and all he got was a text back saying thanks for the flowers And then no response so he hasn't heard anything from her since her about to get her on the phone And see if Steven can get some redemption Steven you ready I am yeah, okay, and I don't want you to come out of this Steven feeling bad about yourself because I mean if this doesn't Work out you are a thoughtful, seems like very gentle human being. And you should stick with that. Oh, thanks for that.

Yeah, but, I mean, I know I'm not the best dater and I kind of screw up things a lot, so. All right, I tried to give you some confidence. I'm going to dial her phone number right now, okay? You ready? Yep. All right, I tried to give you some confidence. I'm going to dial her phone number right now, okay? You ready? Yep. All right, here we go. Hello? Hi, can I speak to Erin, please?

This is Erin. Who's this? Hey, Erin, this is Jubal from Brick and Jubal in the Morning. What? Jubal from Brick and Jubal in the Morning. What? Jubal from Brook and Jubal in the Morning, radio show. Sorry, I'm not familiar. No, you're not? I don't think so.

Good, we're off to a great start. So we do a segment on our show that's called the Second Date Update. And we recently got an email from one of our listeners about you. Oh, okay. Who? His name is Steven. Oh, he emailed you guys? Yep.

He emailed us, told us a little bit about your date, and said that he really liked you, but now you're not getting back to him. So he thought maybe we could find out what went wrong. Okay. I mean, Steven, he's a nice guy. Like, I thought he was cool. You did? You sound so positive about Steven, he's a nice guy. Like, I thought he was cool. You did? You sound so positive about Steven.

He's really sweet. Probably the nicest guy I've ever been out with on a date. The only thing is he's a little bit down on himself. What? Down on himself? Yeah, I just, I think he's a little bit too down on himself. Well, we talked to him and he doesn't sound like the most confident guy in the world, or even near the most confident guy in the world. And he told us about your date. He said that he had planned some kind of fun date for you guys and you turned him down instantly and were like, no, I want to go to a bar. Oh yeah. I mean, I felt bad about that. Normally I'd be down for

that kind of thing immediately, but I didn't explain. I was kind of hung over from the day before, so I needed to just get back to normal. So that's why I thought, let's go to a bar. Wait, so you weren't freaked out by the bottle of bleach he had, or you didn't think he was an idiot for even thinking about it? I mean, I didn't think about the bleach much because I was, like I said, hungover. But I just thought, let's keep it simple because I don't feel well. Let's just get to know each other. Okay.

That sounds so nice. Yeah, it does. He said that's the part that really threw him off because he didn't feel well. Let's just get to know each other. Okay. That sounds so nice. Yeah, it does. He said that's the part that really threw him off because he didn't know what to do with that. He said he felt kind of awkward and felt bad that he had tried to plan something that he didn't like. Oh, yeah. He made that very clear.

I mean, he apologized the entire night, and I kept telling him, no, it's fine. And I even told him that I kind of felt bad for turning it down so abruptly, but he just couldn't let it go the whole day. Whoa. Okay, and did that just kind of felt bad for turning it down so abruptly, but he just couldn't let it go the whole date. Whoa. Okay. And did that just kind of get annoying to you?

Well, I felt like I kind of had to pick him up. Like, no, it's okay. Let's just move on. Yeah. And like one of the most attractive things about a person can be confidence. Yeah. It was just, I couldn't even get to know him because he was beating himself up. I'm a terrible person.

I actually visually picture him punching himself in the face when you say that. I mean, yeah, I think he kind of was inside and it made me feel kind of bad because I felt like I was doing that to him. Now you guys are just both on this date feeling horrible for him, I guess. You're both feeling bad for him. Yeah. I mean, no matter what I said or did, I just couldn't really get him out of it. I mean, he's got, like, zero confidence. Like, he went to the bathroom, and he was gone so long.

Like, I clocked it at 20 minutes before I checked on him. That's not confidence. That's, like, I don't know, lactose intolerance or something. Oh, no, no. There's another issue there. I went to check on him because I was concerned, just wondering what was up. And he was outside the bathroom saying that there were people in there and that he couldn't, you know, go when there was other guys around. So he was waiting for it to be empty.

Shut up. He told you that? He can't use a urinal when other people are around? Yeah, I mean, I guess not. I mean, he was just standing outside the door that whole time. Oh, my gosh. Did you like offer like, I'll watch the girls room so you can at least use a private stall? No, luckily some guy came out and he sprinted inside and I did watch the door for him. He's like, can you watch the door for me? And I was like, sure. Can you watch my door? I gotta

pee real bad. I can see how that might be a little bit of a turn off. Not a little bit. That is a big turn off. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I didn't really even know how to feel. I just kind of stood outside the bathroom and watched for him, and then we finished our date. And, yeah, I didn't really know how to feel about him. All right, well, he knows how to feel about you because he liked you a lot. I mean, that's really sweet. I mean, I liked the idea of him.

It's hard to say, though. Okay. Well, I need to let you know, Aaron, Steven is actually on the other line listening to this conversation and wants to talk to you. What? Yeah. Steven, are you there? Yeah, I'm here. Hi, Aaron.

Sorry. Sorry about this. You don't need to apologize, Steven. Yeah, you don't need to apologize, Aaron. Sorry. Sorry about this. He's apologizing. You don't need to apologize, Stephen. Yeah, you don't need to apologize, Stephen. You don't have to worry about it. No, I should. I do. I really should apologize to you.

I shouldn't have called the radio station. I don't know. Oh, no, dude. Stephen, you were wondering what was going on. I get it. Well, I do want to apologize. I'm sorry about it. Stephen, what are you doing? Stop apologizing. Stephen, I felt want to apologize. I'm sorry about it. Steven, what are you doing?

Stop apologizing. Steven, I felt bad that I turned down your idea, you know, for incorporating objects into our date or whatever. Like, I would normally be down for that. Like, I just want to be clear. I felt bad. So you don't have to feel bad. No, I'm sorry about it. I shouldn't have probably done that.

No, you don't have to apologize. You don't have to. It's okay. Well, I don't know. I just feel bad that I'm making you feel bad about, like, me feeling bad. So it's like, uh... I'm sorry about that.

Steven. The lack of confidence is kind of endearing to me now, Aaron. I don't know. I mean, you just have to stop apologizing. You're okay. We'll move on from here. Steven, Aaron is telling you not to worry about it. Do you hear her saying that?

Yeah, I heard her. No, and I appreciate that. But, you know, I know the truth, and it's probably more on some of the things that I've done. You don't know the truth. That's the thing. Like, everything about you sounds really great and attractive and something that Erin would want, except for this, this piece of you that seems to overshadow everything else. Like when you were talking about skiing and you made a joke about the bunny hills and I cracked up.

Do you remember that? I mean, you were really funny and charming. Oh, thanks. Yeah. I mean, I'm not very good at skiing, so it's funny to, like... Somehow I have a feeling, Stephen, that you wouldn't think you were very good at skiing. Anything. But you thought that was funny?

Yeah, of course. I thought maybe you were just being nice. Of course. No, honestly, I mean, you're really funny. You just need to work on your confidence a little bit and you'd be sexy even. Wow. That's very nice of you to say. There you go, Steven. Look at that. Aaron thinks you could be sexy. Aaron, would you like to go out with Steven on a second date? We will pay for it.

I mean, I, I was just trying to get his spirits up. I mean, I don't know if I'm ready to take that step yet. Come on. Yeah, I kind of figured that was probably what you were thinking. So I don't blame you. I wasn't, Steven, I wasn't just trying to be nice. I just don't know if you can stop beating yourself up. I don't know if you can stop this yourself up. I don't know if you can stop this

and just be with me on a date. I'd love to take you on a second date, Aaron. I really would. And if you would, I'll work on my confidence, I guess, but I can't guarantee anything. Steven, try it again. Try that again and then say that you guarantee

it. I want to see if you can do it. All right, cool. Well, I really would love to take you on a second date, Aaron, and, you know, I'm going to work on my confidence. So, you know what? I guarantee it. Whoa! Whoa, there you go, Aaron.

That's a Stephen guarantee. That's as good as gold. It's almost like a pitchman now. And you know what? We're probably going to have the time of our lives. Probably. Oh, my God. You're so adorable right now.

Come on, Aaron. Aaron, just give him one more shot. You have to. You cannot say no to that. All right. Yeah, I'll give you a shot, but don't put too much pressure on it, okay? Just be you. No, I'm going to play cool.

Yeah. I'm going to play totally cool. You sound like you're a master of that, Steven. So good luck, man. All right. Looking forward to it. I can't wait. Steven's so excited.

Broken Jubal in the morning. Ugh. We're so done with New Year, New You. This year, it's more you on Bumble. More of you shamelessly sending playlists, especially that one filled with show tunes. More of you finding Gemini's because you know you always like them. More of you dating with intention because you know what you want.

And you know what? We love that for you. Someone else will too. Be more you this year and find them on Bumble. Joel, the holidays are a blast, but the financial hangover, that can be a huge bummer. If you are out there and you're dreading the new statement email that reveals the massive balance that you may have racked up, well, you could use our help. That's right. I'm Joel. And I am Matt. And we're from the How To Money podcast. Our show is all about helping you make sense of your personal finances so you can ditch your pesky credit card debt once and for all,

make real progress on other crucial financial goals that you've got, and just feel more in control of your money in general. You know it. For money advice without the judgment and jargon, listen to How To Money on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Ed Zittron, host of the Better Offline podcast. And this January, we're going to go on the road to beautiful Las Vegas, Nevada, to cover the Consumer Electronics Show, tech's biggest conference. Better Offline CES coverage won't be the usual rundown of the hottest gadgets or biggest trends, but an unvarnished look at what the tech industry plans to sell or do to you in 2025. I'll be joined by David Roth of Defector and the writer Edward Ongueso Jr. With guest appearances from Behind the Bastards' Robert Evans, It Could Happen Here's Gare Davis, and a few surprise

guests throughout the show. Listen to Better Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever else you get your podcasts from.