Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - Second Date Update PODCAST: Sushi With Ketchup

Episode Date: February 3, 2020

You can find out a lot about a person when you go out to dinner with them... You can tell about their manners... you can learn any FOOD allergies... and you can find out, that depending on what they eat, that you may NEVER want to see them as long as you live... that's what happened to one of our listeners... at least he THINKS that's the problem. We'll find out if it is, in your 2nd date update here.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Moving 92.5. Rook and Jubal's Second Date Update. Oh, the coffee shop. It's a great place to meet people. I know when I've ever been trying to meet a lady, I always go hang out at the coffee shop because you can tell a lot about somebody based on what they order. Oh, amen. For example, if the girl next to me orders a Frappuccino, I know she likes whipped cream on stuff. That's not what it tells you.

Or let's say she orders a hot chocolate. Yeah. That means she probably likes chocolate on stuff. No. Okay. Maybe even some whipped cream. You are horrible at decisive reading. Yeah. Yeah.

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So I met this really cool girl, Jill, at a Starbucks. Actually, I was in line in front of her, you know, waiting to order. Just looking around because it was a long line and suddenly noticed, oh, wow, you know, it's this cute girl behind me. Did you spend the rest of the time trying not to look behind you but also wanting to look behind you to see? Well, yeah, exactly. I mean, I basically tried to look at her without being creepy. But, you know, obviously, she's pretty. I wanted to look at her. You put your phone in selfie-taking mode

and just hold it up so you can see behind you. Just taking a bunch of selfies, don't mind me. Because that's attractive. No, I just tried to be cool about it, you know, just look around and happen to catch her in my gaze. But I decided, you know, when I got to the counter, I paid for

her drink. I did kind of a pay-it-forward thing. Oh, that's a good way to do it. It is good. Because that's commonplace at Starbucks, too. So if she doesn't like you, just be like, oh, I was just doing what people do at Starbucks. But if she does really like you and want to talk to you, then you're like, sweet, it worked. And it's like a bonus because it says about you, I think of other people. See, that's what I'm saying.

At Starbucks, when somebody does that, you know they're a giver. Thank you. You can tell a lot about people at Starbucks. So, you did that, and did she thank you for it? Well, yeah. So, she goes to the counter, and they said, oh, that guy paid for it, and, you know, she comes

to thank me and says, oh, wow, you know, it's nice of you to do that, and I just said, oh, you know, I just like to do that every once in a while. Actually, she was really cool to talk with, and we had fun. So I just said, hey, do you want to go have dinner with me tonight? Wow. Same night. Yeah. And she said yes. She did. She did, which was awesome. So we decided, you know, because we just met, we would just meet at the restaurant. Yeah. Okay. So we did. We met at the restaurant.

I mean, she has an amazing smile she's really intelligent really easy to talk to and dinner was going really well and you know and everything i mean we're having a really good time together okay you guys were laughing at each other's jokes and yeah like i just thought it was really i don't know i just call it an easy date uh-huh well then your definition of easy day and mine is different so you guys had a good dinner and you liked it why do you think she's not calling you back then i don't know i mean i the only thing i can figure is i do have this um i don't know kind of funny habit that i don't know maybe that weirded her out or something what is it i really love sushi okay we went to this sushi place, but I like having ketchup with my sushi.

Uh-uh. Do not. Get out of here. That's illegal. That's worse than ordering a steak well done. Actually, it's really good. Really? And it's surprising it matches really well.

No. No. You know what? I'll take your word that ketchup goes good with sushi, Ronald. I will take your word on that. You're trying to say that you have a more advanced palate. Don't knock it till you try it. No, I'm going to knock it all day long and never try it, Ronald. How about that?

Okay, so anyway, obviously, you know, it's a sushi place, so I bring my own ketchup with me. I bring little packets. You're bringing your ketchup with you to a sushi place. That is awesome. That is commitment to the ketchup. Well, and look, I mean, she obviously looked weird at me, and she asked a lot of questions. And, you know, I was just like, hey, this is the real me.

I like ketchup on my sushi. Hey, good. And that was that. You know, I mean, at least I'm honest about who I am. Yeah, until the sushi chef saw what you were doing and spit in your food when you didn't know it. You're insulting us. Exactly.

You know what? I'm going to open my own restaurant and just show you how good this is. It's going to be only you eating there. So how did things end then with her? So at the end of the date, I walked her to her car and I leaned in for a kiss and I got a handshake. That's not a good sign. Bad call. It could be, you know, it could be like some weird red flag to her.

It could say that you're too picky or you're too demanding or you're weird. No, come on. That's not weird. Like, weird would be like if I were making comments about whipped cream and chocolate at a coffee shop. Touche. That's a very good point. All right, so do you think it's a catch-up thing, the reason that she didn't even want to kiss you?

Honestly, I mean, it was obviously the weirdest thing on the date, and everything else seemed to be easy, so I don't know. And how many times have you tried to get a hold of her since then? Do I have to admit that? Yes, please. I don't know. I mean, I've texted her and called her a few times. That's double digits.

Okay, so probably too much at this point. Well, we'll do it one more time for you. We'll play a song and then come back and call her and get your second date update. All right? Just hang on. All right. Thanks. Okay, we'll do it next.

Moving 92.5. Rook and Jubal's second date update. Right in the middle of your second date update. And if you're just joining us, Ronald is on the phone. And Ronald met a girl named Jill and took her out for sushi. If you don't know what sushi is, it's an ancient Japanese art. What? Where they carve up fish, place it on a bed of rice, and maybe add some seaweed in to create a beautiful flavor combination. Everybody knows.

Why are you even... And Ronald, who's on the phone, has taken sushi to the next level. He likes to add something that we here in America call ketchup to their sushi. You can't even say it like that and make it sound fancy. Ketchup is a fairly new thing. No, it's not.

And it basically just covers up the flavor of whatever it's on, making it taste like tomato sauce. Yeah, with a lot of sugar in it. Sugar and tomato sauce. Ronald thinks that maybe putting ketchup on his sushi might have sealed his fate, and that's the reason his date isn't calling back, because he knows it's weird, but at least he owns it.

Ronald, are you ready to call Jill and find out if putting ketchup on your sushi ruined your date? Yeah, I'm ready to find out. Now, if she has a problem with it, do you want to continue to pursue a second date? Yeah, I would. I mean, she's really cool, and she's very easy to get along with. And, you know, I'm curious to see what happens. Would you stop using ketchup if she asked you to? No, I would not do that. So you like her enough, but you don't like her enough to drop ketchup. Yeah, correct. All right. I'm going to dial her phone number right now and see if we can

figure out what went wrong. Okay. All right. Hello. Hi, may I speak to Jill, please? Hello? Hi, may I speak to Jill, please? Yeah, this is Jill. Can I ask who's calling? Yes, you can, Jill. This is Jubal from Brook and Jubal in the Morning. How are you? Hi, I'm good. How are you? Good. Are you familiar with who I am at all? Yeah, I'm just kind of curious why you? Good. Are you familiar with who I am at all? Yeah. I'm just kind of curious why you're calling.

So you've heard the radio show, Brooke and Jubal in the Morning before. I just want to make very clear, because sometimes people really have no idea. Yeah. Yeah. No, I've heard it. Okay.

I think it's clear in her giggle that she's heard it before. Well, what would you say if I told you that I'm calling to do a second date update with you? You're not serious right now, are you? Yes, I am completely serious. You went out with a dude named Ronald a little while ago, and now you're not calling him back. Oh. There goes the giggle.

Suddenly you're not laughing. Yeah, no, I went out with Ronald Yeah, we know that I got your phone number and everything from him And we talked to him a little bit about your date He thinks that you're not calling him back Because he puts ketchup on his sushi Yeah, that was definitely a new experience

That's one way to put it Did you think that maybe he was too picky Or unclassified? No, I mean, you know, I don't know if he told you this, but I actually did try it. What? You did? Yeah, yeah, I did. You're brave. Yeah, I wouldn't have done that.

I would have punched him right in the face if he had offered me some sushi with ketchup on it. What did it taste like? It wasn't the worst thing in the world, but I don't think that I would do it again. Okay. So he didn't convert you over to putting ketchup on your sushi, I guess. No. No, he did not. So if you tried it, I'm guessing that that's not the reason you're calling him back.

Yeah, no, that's not. So why are you giving him the cold shoulder then? To be honest with you guys, at the end of the day, our server came up and offered us coffee. Don't tell me, did he put ketchup in his coffee? That would have been amazing. But I think I would have probably just walked out at that point. So I wanted coffee, So I said yes to the server. And I asked him, I was like, do you want some also? And he goes, no, I don't drink coffee. You guys met at Starbucks though, didn't you? Exactly, exactly. So I was like, okay,

that's kind of weird. And I was like, we met at Starbucks Starbucks what do you mean you don't drink coffee and then he went on to tell me that he just goes to different coffee shops trying to meet girls and that took a completely different turn for me why would he tell you that why wouldn't he just say you know I'm really a tea guy and they have a great line of teas there? I like lemonade. Good question. I don't know. For me, honestly, it made me question.

In my head, I was thinking, wow, we've met so organically. This is such a cute story. Meeting at Starbucks, he paid for my drink. And then it's not that cute when you realize he could be doing this every day with a different girl. And, you know, then I started thinking, I was like, I don't even remember him ordering a drink. Like, did he just, you know, see me and decide to get in front of me just so he could pay for my drink and just so he can have an excuse to talk to me? You know, just things didn't line up,

and it was kind of starting to seem a little creepy, I want to say. Hey, I want to say something here. Oops. Jill, you might have forgotten. You say you listen to the Second Date Updates, and Ronald is on the other line and wants to talk to you. Oh, s***. Forgotten, huh? Yeah.

Yeah. Hi, Jill. I guess I'm a little surprised at your reaction to that. I mean, the thing is, I told you in confidence that I do this, but, you know, I don't go to coffee shops every day. It's not like, you know, some kind of lifestyle or something. But, you know, I just told you that in private, you know, that I go to coffee shops every once in a while to meet people. Yeah, it just feels a little out there to me. It seems almost like you scope out people and go and meet them, which I don't know.

That just to me seems a little creepy. I guess I don't understand. How is that creepy? I mean, there's, you know, not only am I honest about it, but I'm not hanging out in bars or online or, you know, and I actually. Do you watch people and then, you know, attack them like it's your prey, you know? That's what it sounds like. No, not at all. Did I attack you like prey? No, we actually had a conversation and we met.

I was going to get another coffee at the coffee shop. You were like, did you seem to just decide that you wanted to stand in front of me at the coffee shop and then use that as your excuse to talk to me? That, to me, seems a little creepy. And for me, I don't know how many people you've done that with. No, listen, I've only done it, like, a few times. It's not, but, you know, it's really, where are you supposed to meet people? I mean, and the cool thing is I like it. Listen, I've only done it like a few times. It's not. But, you know, it's really where you're supposed to meet people. I mean, it's in a cool thing as I met you and we had a really easy conversation and a good time out.

And I just don't understand why it's that creepy. I mean, you make very good points. We did have a very nice conversation and all. I don't know. I think I was just very taken aback by it and it just kind of made the date feel less authentic yeah but Jill I mean have you ever done online dating yeah yeah and and that's the thing I I understand now more where he's coming from just I mean Ronald if if we're being honest now and we're being open and everything, how many people have you done this to? What is the exact number of girls that you have seen at a coffee shop, decided you wanted to go out with them, and bought them a coffee?

Yeah, Ronald, how many women have you bought coffee for? I mean, the way you describe it, it sounds like he's sitting in the corner with binoculars taking, like, pictures. Well, he might be for all I know. Look, Jill, I mean, the number of people is irrelevant. The point is, did you have a good time? Yeah, I did. I had a good time. But you need to tell me how many people you've done this to.

You need to be honest with me. But that's not the point. The point is, we met because I was sitting in that coffee shop waiting for you to walk in. That sounds creepy. I don't feel like, Jill, you really want to know the answer to the question that you're asking. I feel like that's only going to make things worse for you. I think you might be right. Look, I don't know what you want.

I was honest with you about the sushi. I was totally upfront about this. I mean, look, I don't know what you want. I was honest with you about the sushi. I was totally upfront about this. I mean, look, I don't know how many people I've met there. I mean, it's probably somewhere between, I don't know, 30 and 50. Whoa. Whoa. You must be notorious among baristas. They see Ronald coming from a mile away.

And you must also be rich. That's a lot of coffee to buy for people. Hey, Jill, would you like to go out with Ronald That's a lot of coffee to buy for people. Hey, Jill, would you like to go out with Ronald on a second date? We will pay for it. I'm not going to lie. I thought you were going to say that it was going to be between like 5 and 10 people,

but 30 and 50, that's a lot. Come on, Jill. I mean, what's the difference? He could be sitting on Tinder swiping left and right on hundreds of people's pictures. No, in person, it's totally creepier. If you're watching a person as they come in, that's so much creepier than online dating. I guess that both parties on online dating know what they're in for.

In Ronald's case, it's only Ronald that knows what he's in for. Hey, I don't appreciate that comment. Well, Jill, will you go out with Ronald again? Just one more date. I don't know. We have fun, but I think it was just a little much for me. What if he just shows up at the next coffee shop you go to? Will you share coffee with him then?

I think I might run in the other direction now. Oh, come on. I'm sorry, Ronald. You didn't get a second date. Well, hey, you know, I was honest. And if she doesn't like honesty, then obviously she's not the girl for me. There you go. I think probably a lot of women aren't the girl for you.

But you'll find the one that is eventually, Ronald. Broken Jubal in the morning. Text in at 78592 says, I'm pretty sure that guy should actually be arrested for putting ketchup on sushi. And I think I agree with you. We're talking about today's second date update. If you missed it, Ronald wanted to call Jill. They met at Starbucks.

They went out for sushi, and he thought the reason that he wasn't getting a call back was because he puts ketchup on his sushi. And it turns out that wasn't the thing that turned her off. It was a little disgusting, I guess, to her. But she actually tried it and just said it wasn't my cup of tea. The reason that she didn't want to go out with him again was during the date he revealed that he doesn't even drink coffee. He just goes to coffee places and waits for people to come in so he can strike up a conversation and ask him out on a date. So she was like, it just felt creepy that he was doing that. I think that's, I don't know.

I think that's kind of judgy. And he was so honest about it. I mean, maybe he was too honest about it creepy that he was doing that. I think that's, I don't know. I think that's kind of judgy. And he was so honest about it. I mean, maybe he was too honest about it and that's what bit him. The thing is, it's too honest can hurt you. The thing is, well, since the internet now, if you ask anybody out in person, you're always a creep. Yeah, right? I feel like people used to do that 20, 30 years ago. They would wait around to try to find people.

But now if you talk to anybody in person, you're a weirdo. It's like, whoa, wait till I post something and then randomly send me a message in my DMs. Or like 40 of my pictures. And then we'll go out. Don't be so forward, you freak. Send me nude photos before we even

go out. That's the normal way to do it. So they agreed to not go out again. She didn't want to see him. That's the normal way to do it. So they agreed to not go out again. She didn't want to see him again because she thinks he's a weirdo who just stalks women

at coffee shops. Well, he has gotten 30 to 50 dates that day. So that, I mean, is impressive. Who really cares? He puts ketchup on sushi and that's the biggest thing.

He means nothing to us. Yeah, remember, if you want to do a second date update, all you have to do is email the show and we will call the person who didn't call you back.

Young Jeffrey's Song of the Week is coming up in just a few minutes at 810. Ugh, we're so done with New Year, New You. This year, it's more you on Bumble. More of you shamelessly sending playlists, especially that one filled with show tunes. More of you finding Gemini's because you know you always like them. We'll be right back. are a blast, but the financial hangover, that can be a huge bummer. If you are out there and you're dreading the new statement email that reveals the massive balance that you may have racked up, well, you could use our help. That's right. I'm Joel. And I am Matt. And we're from the How To Money Podcast. Our show is all about helping you make sense of

your personal finances so you can ditch your pesky credit card debt once and for all, make real progress on other crucial financial goals that you've got, and just feel more in control of your money in general. You know it. For money advice without the judgment and jargon, listen to How to Money on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Ed Zitron, host of the Better Offline podcast. And this January, we're going to go on the road to beautiful Las Vegas, Nevada, to cover the Consumer Electronics Show, tech's biggest conference. Better Offline CES coverage won't be the usual rundown of the hottest gadgets or biggest trends, but an unvarnished look at what the tech industry plans to sell or do to you in 2025.

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