Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - Second Date Update PODCAST: Third Date Regret

Episode Date: November 23, 2015

One of our listeners received possibly the worst text message you could ever get after a date... It was only one word. And that word ruined everything. Find out what happened. In the Second Date Update podcast.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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because she's been out on more than one date with this guy, which makes it even more confusing why he wouldn't be calling her back. Oh, yeah. Her name is Marie, and Marie, how are you? Hi, I'm great. How are you guys? Good. You definitely qualify for a second date update,

even though you've been out with this guy a few times. How many times have you gone out? Three. We've had three dates. Three dates with this guy, and now he's just disappeared on you. Exactly. Dude, That is so annoying. I don't know why people do that to each other. Yeah, you're telling me. All right. So tell

us about how you met him. We met on a dating website and we were actually talking on the website for, I would say, almost three weeks total. So you guys talked for like three weeks online and you've been on three dates. You're talking about over a month of knowing this guy and then he just bailed on you. Yeah, exactly. Definitely over a month since we've been talking. Wow, that sucks. If you've gone on three dates, like how far have you guys, this sounds

weird, but how far have you guys gone physically? Brooke! Well, I'm just saying, like I don't know what their relationship is. Like have they already spent the night at each other's house? Because three dates is so... That's okay. You know, actually, no, we haven't. The farthest we've gone, we've made out. Because that's it.

All right. Well, I guess we don't need every single date unless you feel like there's some details we need. But what happened the last time you guys hung out? Well, you know, the first dates were fine. We basically went for coffee once and then dinner. And then for the third date, the last date that we had, we went out to a bar. So it was a little different environment, a little fun, a little noisy, loud. But he ended up bringing a friend.

Did he tell you beforehand that he was going to bring a friend? No, which at first I thought, well, maybe we're that comfortable with each other already that it's okay. So then I actually ended up calling one of my girlfriends, and she came over. Oh, well, that's a good idea. So how did that go? It turned out to be a great night. He ended up buying us tequila shots, and it was really fun. And to be honest with you, I was surprised. I've dated quite a lot, and I was pleasantly surprised with where things were going.

And he's definitely a little quirky and has his ways but I like that. You guys are practically married at this point. You've been kind of seeing each other for about a month now. You've met each other's friends. I mean, that's all there is left to do, right? I mean,

I thought we were moving forward at least to something further than where we were at. Do you think there's a possibility that he was freaked out that maybe you were moving faster than him? I guess it could be a possibility. I mean, at this point, I really don't know what happened. I mean, I don't think I came across as crazy at all. To me, we were both moving forward together if that makes sense you said that he had quirks that you liked yeah a lot of times that's code for he's kind of weird

you know there's just little things about him that at first i kind of found it endearing and he has his ways like to talk little tangents but then he gets excited about the things that he's talking about and he has a like gap in his teeth which is so it's just so cute and it makes him makes him who he is I think diastema is the technical term for that if you were curious what is it diastema is it really that's the term for a gap in your teeth yeah I've dated a lot of dental assistants if you ever need to talk about his tooth gap again, you can use the doctor's term for it if you want. Well, you know, that's good to know. I would love to talk about it with him if he will ever call me back or speak to me again.

So what was the last thing that he said to you? So it's been eight days since our last date when we were at the bar. And I've actually tried to call him a few times. I've texted him a bunch and I've gotten one response. And it had one word and it just said, sorry. That's all I got. Did you respond to the sorry? Yeah, I did.

I wrote back, well, what the hell do you mean? And I haven't gotten any response from that. So are you hoping, I mean, because that sounds like a breakup to me. I mean, like, you don't have to have the breakup talk because you only went on three dates, but a sorry text means I'm done. Yeah, I mean, at this point, I'd at least like an explanation. You know, I feel like I deserve one. You know, we've had this background together for over a month now, and we've been out three times, and then to not even give me anything of just sorry,

I'm just upsetting. I don't know. I don't even know why. Did you stalk him online yet? Is his dating profile still up? Yeah, no. I mean, it's all still there. It's all normal.

He hasn't changed anything. Okay, well, we'll play a song, come back, call him, and get your second date update, alright? Great. Or third date update, or whatever you want to call it. But we'll get it right after this. Love and keep her home. Moving 92.5. Brooke and Jubal in the morning.

Second date update. Today's second date update is a serious one because the girl on the phone was left at the altar. What? That's right. It's a very, very sad story. Oh, my God. Way more in depth than any of our other second date updates. Is she pregnant, too?

She might be. We don't know. She said that she hasn't hooked up with the guy yet in that way, but weirder things have happened. She was basically married to this guy. They've been dating for about a month now, and they've gone out on three dates in that time. The last time they saw each other, they had fun.

They partied with a few friends. Then he didn't text her back. She didn't hear from him for a little while. Kept texting him. And he finally just sent her one text that said, sorry. And that's the last she's heard from him. Marie, are you ready to call your fiance? It wasn't that serious.

It really wasn't. But yes, I'm ready. I'm ready. Are you mad at him right now? Are you angry with this dude for just ghosting on you, basically? I mean, I don't want to be angry at him, but I am, and I'm mostly confused. I really just want some answers. Depending on his answer, I guess you can judge if you're angry or not.

Yeah. Good point. All right. I'm going to dial his phone number right now and see why he stopped calling you after three dates. Here we go. Hello? Hi, I was looking for Paul. Yeah, that's me.

Hey, Paul, what's up? How are you? This is Jubal from Brook and Jubal in the Morning. It's a radio show. Okay. What do you want? I'm calling you because we recently got an email about you from one of our listeners. Her name is Marie. Okay. She asked if we could get you on the phone and find out why you stopped calling her.

Really? Yes. It's a segment that we do on our show called The Second Date Update. Do you have a few minutes to tell us why you're not talking to Marie anymore? I mean, I don't know what she's told you or whatever, but, I mean, I've kind of already sent her a text, like, saying sorry, and I just, I don't know. Yeah, well, she told us about the text, but she doesn't know why because you never gave her an explanation.

So she's just more curious than anything. Honestly, I don't think I really want to tell her. Yeah, but Paul, have you ever gone out with a girl that you liked a lot and then she just stopped talking to you? I mean, yeah, but... Yeah, so doesn't it kind of suck when you don't know why? Yeah, I don't know if I can tell her um i don't know how to really tell her so the thing is you're not telling her right now you're telling me

i mean i don't know man but i mean you said you talked to her so you you're probably just gonna repeat you know what i told you so i don't know you can pick you can pick and choose information why don't you be straight with us and then we'll decide what she needs to know. Was she moving too fast? That's what we were thinking. Like maybe she was ahead of you? No. I mean, don't get me wrong. It's nothing that she did, okay? It wasn't her fault at all. It was all on me, okay? And this is 100% all to do with me.

Okay, well then if it's your fault, why don't you just tell us tell us what happened i mean if it's not anything that's going to embarrass her the thing is is like it was just it was just bad okay like i kind of want to like move on from it you know just forget like it ever happened it what it is what it is kind of thing just move on there was like what was so bad that's weird did she tell you about the last day that we had like when we went to the bar she didn't tell us much she just said you hung out at a bar with some friends yeah well all right well i was pretty drunk uh because you know we were there with friends drinking a lot. I drank probably way more than I should have. But we were having a good time, you know? And, you know, that's where I messed up.

All right. Well, my mind automatically goes to you were there with friends. Did you mess around with one of her friends or something drunk? I mean, all right. That sounds like a yes. That sounds like a big yes to me, Paul. You dirty dog. All right. Well, let me just explain.

Okay. So I don't know why. Like, we're drinking like we're 21 again. And so I'm coming back from the bathroom and I pass her friend. We start talking in the hallway. I don't even remember, like, how we got to the point. But we start making out. And I like in like mid make out, like I sober up like instantly, like that moment of clarity, like what the hell are you doing kind of thing.

And at that point I was like, whoa, I got to get out of here. Like this is not how I am. This is not who I am. Like, so I like called my Uber and I got the hell out of there. Like pretty much at that point. All right. That's understandable. And what a crappy friend she has. It's making out with some guy that she's crushing on. Like that sucks. Well, I mean, I don't want to put it on, on her. I mean like literally I, I know how to drink and that was not how you're supposed to drink. So like, I take a lot of blame for that.

You're kind of taking responsibility, but then you're kind of blaming alcohol. You can blame it on the goose right now. All right. So, well, that's understandable then why you'd be like, does it suck though? I mean, it sounds like you guys were having a fun time dating. Does it suck that you made this mistake and now you don't feel like you can talk to her? Totally, dude. Like, we hit it off. It was like we had conversations that, like, probably some married people don't have.

So it really sucks. But at this point, like, I don't know how, one, she'll take it. Two, how to bring it up. And then, like, three, how she'll feel, like, for the rest of the relationship. Right. I've got some ideas on how you can bring it up to her. Oh, no, Jewel. I actually have a really good idea.

Okay. I think you should just talk to her because she's actually on the other line listening to this phone call. What? Yeah. Marie? How? Hey. Hey. Marie? Hi. Hey. F***.

I don't even know what to say. I mean, did this seriously happen? I mean, this is totally not how I wanted to tell you or even tell you really because I don't really know how to bring it up. Like, this is why I just kind of texted sorry I was gonna text you um like this page and a half long text and I was like well that's weird so I didn't text it and then I don't know I'm sorry I I'm just I'm so disappointed I mean me too I mean right now I feel like Even more so because now you're finding out this way. And, like, that's not who I am.

I can't believe my friend did that. I mean, she hasn't said anything to me. Yeah, I don't want you to blame her. I mean, like, I'm taking responsibility for it. Like, I guess. I guess. The goose. Well, let me just say this say this like it totally wasn't emotional

at that point because there was no connection like when i got that moment of clarity i was like what the is going on yeah and it was just once yeah yeah like that's it i i don't even know her name to be honest with you and i don't really really care to because, like I said, it wasn't emotional at that point. It was like 100% physical. I mean, I don't even think you made out with me that night. Maria, it's bad no matter what, but at least he's kind of a stand-up guy about it. I mean, a lot of guys would do this, and then they would continue to talk to you. They'd probably text your friend and be like, hey, don't mention what happened.

At least he was a big enough man to be like i screwed up and now i shouldn't continue this relationship yeah yeah you're right but it's also like the biggest red flag ever i mean if he's already yeah if he's i mean not that he's cheating on you because you haven't had that guy's talk yet but if even in the beginning he's already making out with other chicks while you're there i don't know But he said he's never done that. It's not like him. But the thing is, Marie, I really like you, okay? I think we had a really good connection, and I think we still do.

I just – Yeah. Is there any way you can forgive me? I don't know what I can do to maybe that, you know, you could forgive me for, you know? Yeah, I mean, I'm glad that i'm finding out now and i can't believe that my friend didn't even think that she needed to tell me i mean at least you you're telling me at least i she was just gonna keep it a secret that's not a good friend yeah that definitely isn't yeah but it's he was pressured into telling you and didn't even

realize he was telling you he was never gonna telling you and didn't even realize he was telling you. He was never going to talk to you again, actually. Was that have really been the situation where you just thought you never wanted to talk to me again? Like I said, the one that got away kind of situation, but I don't know. It's been eating me up inside, so I probably would have ended up calling you, I don't know, maybe tomorrow or the next day. Eventually, I would have called you. That's kind of sweet. That's kind of sweet?

It clearly upset him so much that he knew he did something wrong, and there was a reason why he was so upset by it and then had to just leave. I mean, it just shows how much he cares. What? Yeah, I thought we had a really good connection, you know, and it was... Yeah, I agree. We connected on so many levels, so... Does this happen? I don't...

I don't know. I don't know why I have such a hard time believing you, Paul. I'm so down the middle. I feel like you're just feeding her lines at this point. Would you forgive her if she made out with one of your friends that night? I would have to know the situation. I'd have to know all the details. I'd have to know all the information.

Me personally, this situation, it was only physical. My mind, you know, I was with Marie that night. I was not with her friend. I couldn't, like, emotionally kiss you then afterwards because I knew not with her friend. I couldn't emotionally kiss you then afterwards because I knew what I just did. So, I mean, really, I did it for you. Oh my god.

You did not. I mean, some things of the night make more sense now. And you did say that you're sorry. Well, I think this is a perfect point to ask. Hey, Paul, would you like to go out on a second date with Marie? We will pay for it.

Yeah, absolutely. I would love to. Marie, would you be willing to give Paul another shot? Yeah, I really would. Don't give him another shot after this one, though. That will never happen again, okay, Marie? I can promise you that. You really promise, Marie? I can promise you that. You really promise?

Like 110% I promise you that. Well, congratulations, you guys. So finally a successful second date. We haven't had a couple go out on a second date in a while. I guess this is like a fourth date for you guys because you've been out on three dates. Yeah, this will be number four, yeah. Yeah, you know, Paul,

I'm a forgiving and understanding person, and I'm excited to go out with you again. You know, I gotta be honest, I don't think that I'm gonna be talking to my friend anymore. I hope that's not, you know, weird or anything, but I just

see I don't need her in my life anymore. I mean, I fully support that. I think that any friend that would do that to you is not a true friend. I agree. Well, I don't need her in my life anymore. I mean, I fully support that. I think that any friend that would do that to you is not a true friend. I agree. Well, I'm glad this worked out. And whoever said the phrase, you can't have your cake and eat it too, wasn't true. We just learned that in a second date update. Broken Jubal in the morning.

Joel, the holidays are a blast, but the financial hangover, that can be a huge bummer. If you are out there and you're dreading the new statement email that reveals the massive balance that you may have racked up, well, you could use our help. That's right. I'm Joel. And I am Matt. And we're from the How To Money podcast. Our show is all about helping you make sense of your personal finances so you can ditch your pesky credit card debt once and for all, make real progress on other crucial financial goals that you've got, and just feel more in control of your money in general. You know it. For money advice without the judgment and jargon, listen to How to Money on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Jon Stewart is back at The Daily Show, and he's bringing his signature wit and insight straight to your ears

with The Daily Show Ears Edition Podcast. Dive into Jon's unique take on the biggest topics in politics, entertainment, sports, and more. Joined by the sharp voices of the show's correspondents and contributors. And with extended interviews and exclusive weekly headline roundups, this podcast gives you content you won't find anywhere else. Ready to laugh and stay informed? Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The forces shaping markets and the economy are often hiding behind a blur of numbers.

So that's why we created The Big Take from Bloomberg Podcasts, to give you the context you need to make sense of it all. Every day in just 15 minutes, we dive into one global business story that matters. You'll hear from Bloomberg journalists like Matt Levine. A lot of this meme stock stuff is, I think, embarrassing to the SEC. Follow The Big Take Podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen.