Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - Second Date Update: Promtastrophe

Episode Date: May 31, 2022

Are your dating standards at an all time low? Well, today we might restore your faith in romance, because one of our listeners went above and beyond to plan a special night!See omnystudio.com/listener... for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Ugh, we're so done with New Year, New You. This year, it's more you on Bumble. More of you shamelessly sending playlists, especially that one filled with show tunes. More of you finding Gemini's because you know you always like them. More of you dating with intention because you know what you want. And you know what? We love that for you. Someone else will too. Be more you this year and find them on Bumble.
Starting point is 00:00:28 Joel, the holidays are a blast, but the financial hangover, that can be a huge bummer. If you are out there and you're dreading the new statement email that reveals the massive balance that you may have racked up, well, you could use our help. That's right. I'm Joel. And I am Matt. And we're from the How To Money podcast. Our show is all about helping you make sense of your personal finances so you can ditch your pesky credit card debt once and for all, make real progress on other crucial financial goals that you've got, and just feel more in control of your money in general. You know it. For money advice without the judgment and jargon, Listen to How to Money on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Hi, I'm Ed Zitron, host of the Better Offline podcast. And this January, we're going to go on the road to beautiful Las Vegas, Nevada, to cover the Consumer Electronics Show, tech's biggest conference. Better Offline CES coverage won't be the usual rundown of the hottest gadgets or biggest trends, but an unvarnished look at what the tech industry plans to sell or do to you in 2025.
Starting point is 00:01:29 I'll be joined by David Roth of Defector and the writer Edward Ongueso Jr. With guest appearances from Behind the Bastards' Robert Evans, It Could Happen Here's Gare Davis, and a few surprise guests throughout the show. Listen to Better Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever else you get your podcasts from. Second date update. In the dating world, most men put in minimal effort for their dates. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:03 Texts at 2 a.m., Netflix and chill, maybe Taco Bell delivered. Delivered. Maybe. Delivered. Maybe. Delivered. Hello, Casanova. Marry me. The other men, though, they'll go the extra mile, take her to Chili's, get some Southwestern egg rolls, offer to split the bill like a gentleman. But one guy named Max went the extra 17 miles when he planned his first date
Starting point is 00:02:27 that's very specific well i'm just saying he didn't go the extra mile he went way past that and i can't wait to hear exactly what he did max welcome to the show hey guys thanks for having me on oh i know that was a silly i know but i cannot wait to hear where you took her now. I mean, Max, are you feeling a lot of pressure? That was a lot of hype Jeffrey gave you. No, no pressure. I mean, I delivered, you know? Oh, all right. That's Max's style.
Starting point is 00:02:53 He never lets a lady down. All right. Tell us about the girl that you went out with. What's her name? Her name's Beth. Okay. And we met online, actually. She's super cute.
Starting point is 00:03:02 And I should tell you the whole sort of backstory about our date. Yeah. We were texting for a while, a couple of weeks, actually, just because we wanted to hang out. But it didn't work with our schedules. Okay. I mean, so were you planning something big and elaborate the entire time and the schedule wasn't working out? Well, it's funny you ask because we were talking and I found out she had never been to prom. Oh. I know, right? I think she she had never been to prom. Aww.
Starting point is 00:03:25 I know, right? I think she said her date ditched her or something. Aww. What a jerk. Wow, that's fun. Okay. So I came up with this idea. I would surprise her,
Starting point is 00:03:36 recreating prom night for her. That is so cute. Okay. That is above and beyond. You're going to blow that on a first date? I mean, you... God. I mean, I feel like that's something you keep in your back pocket for when you're dating six months and then you do it.
Starting point is 00:03:49 Not him, Brooke. Not him. I guess. I know. Max brings it all. Date one. We were really connecting on the phone. Okay.
Starting point is 00:03:57 So how did you do this? Would you guys do drink in the car before the date started? No, no, no, no, no, no. Okay, okay, okay. So I just told her to dress up. Okay, that's literally all I told her. But she didn't know that the prom was coming. No, I didn't tell her anything else.
Starting point is 00:04:10 Okay. But here's what I do. I go to her apartment and I texted her to look outside her window. Uh-huh. And it was sort of dusk, like it was getting dark, and I had set up these candles outside. Aw. And these rose petals.
Starting point is 00:04:21 It actually took me a long time, but the rose petals were on the sidewalk, and they spelled out prom question mark. Oh, you even did a promposal. Yeah, you guys get it. You are so proud, as you should be, sir. But it's probably awkward with all the adults walking by that are like, why is this old gentleman asking some girl to prom? This is weird.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Should we call the authorities? Oh, please be her dad. So you told her to look out the window. She is weird. Should we call the authorities? Please be her dad. So you told her to look out the window. She looked out and what happened? She looked out and she looked really excited. Kind of shocked but she came down. Yeah. Good. I gave her her corsage. Oh.
Starting point is 00:04:57 That's cute. So what's next? I called an Uber and I had the Uber take us to my work parking lot. Okay. Okay, that sounds ghetto but really cute. Okay. It was enclosed.
Starting point is 00:05:10 It actually has really good acoustics, which is why we went there. Oh, it's like a parking garage. Okay. I went to a poor high school. I'm going to tell you, your parking garage was probably in better condition than my high school. Parking garage? Oh, what is this? Fancy schmancy.
Starting point is 00:05:28 Okay. So you went to your work parking garage oh what is this fancy schmancy okay so you went to your work parking garage and right right what happened there of course i take out my boom box and try to play some old 90s songs for her and we dance and you know we took funny photos together you even took prom photos together yeah i use my iphone you know i download it to funny background oh that could be really cute or super awkward yeah i agree there's like a fine line here how was beth feeling during this whole experience could you get a read on that yeah she seemed to like it i mean was she smiling like she seemed to like it that's a very short review sir what made you think that she seemed to like it. That's a very short review, sir. What made you think that she seemed to like it? That's a better question.
Starting point is 00:06:07 I mean, she didn't run away. And she probably could have run away at various points. I don't know. Wheels are hard to run in. I'm really concerned that you're judging your date's interest based on whether or not she ran away. I gave her three opportunities. I said run now, and she didn't. She dialed 9-1, but she didn't dial the last one.
Starting point is 00:06:25 So she must like me. Come on, you know what I mean. I mean, is that what you mean? I know. We're just giving you a hard time. We're honestly jealous because you've done way more on your first date than we've done on any of our dates. And compared to other second dates, this is a lot of effort. It's very creative and very romantic.
Starting point is 00:06:43 All kidding aside, this is impressive, dude. I told you guys I delivered. Yeah, you did. We're lying, man. Everybody agrees. Thank you. But what do you guys do after, like, you know, you dance, like, once or twice, right? Because you dance more than that, and it does start to get awkward.
Starting point is 00:06:58 In between her trying to remain. Right. Well, I didn't want to shortchange. I have 15 songs on the playlist. Nice. That's a solid playlist. Wait, you stayed in the parking lot and danced for 15 songs? Did you have someone come yell at you for dirty dancing halfway through?
Starting point is 00:07:11 Because that's what happened at my prom. You guys are joking, but 15 songs is a long time, Max. That is a couple hours. I wanted to give it the full experience. Yeah. I mean, real prom is awkward. So the recreation of prom needs to be a little bit awkward, too. So there was, like, fast songs and slow songs, and you guys were totally sober, just the two of you in a parking garage dancing.
Starting point is 00:07:33 Basically, yeah. Okay. The recap isn't as... I bet it's more romantic in real life than what we're picturing in our heads. It felt like it. Yeah. Again, romantic to the third song. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:45 But prom is always a letdown, so this kind of... Yeah, true. So how did this night end? We drove to McDonald's, and we got some food. That is like classic prom. That is, yeah. It was honestly, it felt perfect, I guess, until the end, when I walked her through the door, and she said, oh, that was such a special night.
Starting point is 00:08:03 Oh. And then she sort of leaned in, and I sort of thought she was going to kiss me, but she kissed me on the cheek. Okay. And then I haven't heard from her at all. Huh. Now that's the weird part. Well, I mean, it's just a lot of effort to not get a call back. Dude, you should at least get like a pity kiss on prom night.
Starting point is 00:08:21 That's fair. I think so. That's what I thought. Yeah. I mean, if nothing else, you went through all this effort and that's what we're going to try to get you
Starting point is 00:08:26 right now. We're going to get you a pity kiss. Okay. I can get behind this. Or maybe even a pity second date. I don't think anybody
Starting point is 00:08:33 wants pity anything. He was happy that she didn't run. Come on. We're going to play a song. We'll come back. We'll call Beth for you and we'll try and get you
Starting point is 00:08:41 a second date update. All right, man? All right. Second date update. If you're just? All right. Second date update. If you're just tuning in for the second date update, one of our listeners, Max, recreated prom night for his date, Beth, after he found out that she never went to hers back in high school. He did a big promposal.
Starting point is 00:08:59 They danced to old songs in the parking garage at his work. They even took prom photos on his iPhone. And he didn't get a kiss at the end of the night. After all that, I said he should have at least gotten a pity kiss for all that effort that he went through for her. So I'm telling you right now, Max, if we don't get you this date and we can't deliver a pity kiss from Beth, then our own social media coordinator,
Starting point is 00:09:25 Alexis, has agreed to step up and we'll kiss you on the air to end this segment. I'm guaranteeing it. If you can go all out for a date, then we can go all out for a second date. I mean, if anyone's the expert on pity kisses, it's definitely you, Jeffrey. So take that one for the team, okay? Well, someone on this show is going to pity kiss you, Max, whether you want it or not. Yeah, I don't know. I just hope you guys give me a date.
Starting point is 00:09:53 Wait, did you pay for the McDonald's? Because then I'll totally kiss you, bro. We split the McDonald's. Oh, never mind. You didn't pay for a McDonald's? He already paid for everything else. What do you want from it? That's true.
Starting point is 00:10:04 He's got a tax on it. What did he pay for? The mi? He already paid for everything else. What do you want from him? That's true. He's got a tax law. What did he pay for? The mixtape in the parking garage? And the Uber ride? There it is. And the candles and the flowers. I'm sorry. I didn't know your parents hadn't given you an allowance yet and that's why you couldn't cover McDonald's.
Starting point is 00:10:20 Brooke's hating on you right now, Max, but you know what? I support you, okay? You let that piece out. And I'm going to rent a hotel room after this second date update in case it goes really well, just for you and me. What kind of prom did you have? The best prom. Dude, ours ended in a forest at a kegger. Okay, that's a little sketchy, too.
Starting point is 00:10:41 That's why you want to do prom with me, Max. Did anybody just go home at the end of prom? Am I the only one that just was in my own bed? Yeah, I went to cabin. Oh, wow. Okay, then. All right. We're all getting sidetracked reminiscing about our proms.
Starting point is 00:10:53 Let's focus on the second date update, and Max, we're going to try and call her right now. You ready? Yeah, I'm ready. Okay, here we go. Hello? Hi, is this Beth? Yes, it is. Who's calling?
Starting point is 00:11:14 My name's Jeffrey. I work on the radio show Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning. Oh. Are you familiar with us? I'm familiar with you. I just don't know why you're calling. Okay. Well, if you're familiar,
Starting point is 00:11:24 then you might be familiar with a segment that we do called the Second Date Update. That's where if you go out with someone, right, and afterwards if they're not calling you back, you can email us for help. Okay, yeah, I've heard of it. So recently you went out with a guy and you were not calling him back afterwards. So he's asked us to get in touch with you. Okay. What's his name? His name is Max. Max. It's going to be a hard to forget date. I would imagine unless you've gone to a bunch of
Starting point is 00:11:53 recreated proms over the last week or so. No, I just have one. That's good. So are you purposely not getting back to him or maybe you got busy? What did he tell you about our date? I mean, he basically ran us through the whole evening where he did a promposal for you. He took you to his parking garage at his work to recreate a dance. You guys went to McDonald's afterwards and he made it sound like it was a pretty fun night. Okay, so dancing in a parking garage and going to McDonald's sounds fun to you? I mean, not to me personally, but I could understand why it would be a nice gesture. Sounds fun to me.
Starting point is 00:12:32 Okay, I will say when Max told us the story, he said that you guys danced for like 15 songs, which to me was overkill. Yeah, there were a lot of songs and he was excited about each one of them. Like, do you remember this one? It gives me the history of each song. Oh, wow. Like, he hand-selected each one on purpose. I mean, it is sweet. Like, he's just trying to recreate prom for you
Starting point is 00:12:57 because he said you missed your high school prom. Yeah, you're right. I mean, the whole thing was really, really sweet. It was just a little maybe, like, childish're right. I mean, the whole thing was, it was really, really sweet. It was just a little maybe like childish for me. Does that make sense? Well, high school, we were kind of a kid, like, meaning like that. Or it's like, you know. I mean, like, we're grown adults now.
Starting point is 00:13:16 Like, it's okay I missed my prom. Like, I'm not sitting here crying in a corner all these years later. You're not super hung up on it. But you said yes to the promposal, so... No, she didn't know, right? She knew it was to dress up. She's saying when the proposal was outside her door and he was standing in the tub,
Starting point is 00:13:32 she came in down and went with him. With the candles. She should have just been like, uh, no, let's just do, like, Applebee's or something. I mean, yeah, the gesture was really cute. I just, you know, doing the, like, promposal thing, like, it's kind of the cutest part of it, right? Yeah. It was kind of everything else, like, the gesture was really cute. I just, you know, doing the, like, promposal thing, like, is kind of the cutest part of it, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:46 The surprise. It was kind of everything else. Like, you know, it was just the two of us in this, like, parking garage. You know, and I've just met this guy for the first time in real life. So it was a little awkward. I could see that. I definitely understand what you're saying. That's a weird experience to go through.
Starting point is 00:14:03 But you have to remember, he's just trying to create a moment for you. And like, maybe he didn't do it the best way. But going forward, you don't have to do that again. You can just do a normal date. Well, that was kind of a deal breaker for me. Wait, what was the deal breaker? I'm sorry, just doing the long prom night thing was a deal breaker? No, it was actually a conversation that we had had at
Starting point is 00:14:25 McDonald's that just kind of turned me off. It wasn't him making you pay for your own McDonald's food that turned you off. Something else. No, no, no. We can split the bill. It's fine. So when he was talking to McDonald's, he was talking a lot about plans for our future dates, which there's nothing wrong with thinking about future dates. But he thought because I loved the prom date so much that he wanted to like recreate all of these other events in my life, like my sweet 16 and like my 21 run and like basically all the big moments that people have. I mean, I get that because it I mean, to me, it would feel like he's trying to insert himself in my past memories. Like, it's OK that I had a life before I met you, man. We could still date without you forcing this.
Starting point is 00:15:11 Yeah. I also think it's kind of weird that he keeps trying to recreate her in her teenage years. No, he said 21, right? Well, okay. He also wants her wasted in a back alley somewhere. Okay. Peeing on a garbage can. Or something.
Starting point is 00:15:23 Or at your mom's mitzvah at 13. Yeah. I mean, it was just a little too much for me and like in the moment it was hard for me to say anything because I was so overwhelmed and kind of taken aback like wait you want to do what now that you're out of that moment I'm going to put you into a different moment where I tell you that Max is on the other line listening and he wants to talk to you right now oh he's on the other line listening and he wants to talk to you right now. Oh, he's on the other line. Yeah. He's been listening the whole time. Max, you there? Yeah, I'm here. Um, Hey Beth. Oh my God. I didn't know you were listening. Um, it was a cool prom night, right? I mean, yeah, it was, it was really sweet of you to do that.
Starting point is 00:16:08 Yeah, I don't know what to say. It's just that you did say that you'd never been a prom and that you wished you had. So I was basically making your wish come true. Yeah, it's kind of less about the prom aspect and more about, like, wanting to recreate all of these other moments in my life for our dates instead of just like going out and getting to know each other right yeah i just thought that uh those were really important to you and i wanted to maybe experience those moments with you i thought that would be really nice but is it just that i don't know you're not like attracted to me to me it was just a little too much.
Starting point is 00:16:47 It was a little overkill. Especially, like, like I said, this prom was super nice. But, like, trying to recreate my sweet 16 that I already had is a little bit different than recreating a prom that I never had. Yeah. But I wasn't at your sweet 16. I mean, I would have liked to have been there. Oh, Matt. Are you not hearing anything she's saying? But I wasn't at year three 16. I mean, I would have liked to have been there. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:17:07 Are you not hearing anything she's saying? I know, man, that you may have hurt feelings right now, but I feel like it's good with you to be very direct. She doesn't want to do that. Yeah. Fine. We'll just do the 21 then. We don't have to do it. There's nothing to do that. Max, I don't think you're understanding what she's saying.
Starting point is 00:17:24 She's done all that already. She's finished with that portion of her life. She'd like to move into adulthood and do all the things that adults like to do that are fun. Netflix and chill would be an upgrade for once. I know. You said you like the driver's license idea. When you got your driver's license, we were going to do that together. What?
Starting point is 00:17:40 What? What, are you going to teach her how to parallel park? No one likes that. Which she already knows how. Again, these are things we don't need to relive in life. Nobody wants to relive the stress of your driver's license. I never said I wanted to do a driver's license party. I just said I had never had one.
Starting point is 00:17:55 And I don't even know if those are like a thing. I don't think they are. Well, excuse me for being Mr. Think of Others. What? No, bro. No, Max. Max, you're being Mr. Don't Listen to Anyone. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:08 Who doesn't like being celebrated? Okay, why don't you have one of those parties for yourself, then? Yeah, recreate taking your first steps, and she can be there for it. I would be up for that if that's what you want to do for the next date. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:18:20 Okay. Well, in that case, Beth, we would like to send you out one more time with Max. You can recreate. You can hold his finger while he barely keeps his balance and takes his first steps again. And we'll pay for that somehow. What do you say? I don't want to keep looking back. So I think that for me to move forward from this is not going on a second date. Yes. That's a very good way to say no. We could do a retirement party. Do you want to do a retirement party?
Starting point is 00:18:49 A retirement party? That's too far. That sounds like fun. Hey, you're over the hill. Yeah. You get a discount on your food. You'll be in bed by 4 o'clock. What do you say?
Starting point is 00:18:58 Great. I like it. Here's some food that's easy to bite through for dinner. Coincidentally, also McDonald's. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Ugh, we're so done with New Year, New You. This year, it's
Starting point is 00:19:13 more you on Bumble. More of you shamelessly sending playlists, especially that one filled with show tunes. More of you finding Gemini because you know you always like them. More of you dating with intention because you know what you want. And you know what? We love that for you.
Starting point is 00:19:29 Someone else will, too. Be more you this year and find them on Bumble. Joel, the holidays are a blast, but the financial hangover, that can be a huge bummer. If you are out there and you're dreading the new statement email that reveals the massive balance that you may have racked up, well, you could use our help. That's right. I'm Joel. And I am Matt. And we're from the How To Money Podcast. Our show is all about helping you make sense of your personal finances so you can ditch your pesky credit card debt once and for all, make real progress on other crucial financial goals that you've got, and just feel more in control of your money in general.
Starting point is 00:20:06 You know it. For money advice without the judgment and jargon, listen to How to Money on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Ed Zitron, host of the Better Offline podcast. And this January, we're going to go on the road to beautiful Las Vegas, Nevada to cover the Consumer Electronics Show, tech's biggest conference. Better Offline's CES coverage won't be the usual rundown of the hottest gadgets or biggest trends,
Starting point is 00:20:32 but an unvarnished look at what the tech industry plans to sell or do to you in 2025. I'll be joined by David Roth of Defector and the writer Edward Ongueso Jr., with guest appearances from Behind the Bastards' Robert Evans, It Could Happen Here's Gare Davis, and a few surprise guests throughout the show. Listen to Better Offline on the iHeartRadio app,
Starting point is 00:20:49 Apple Podcasts, or wherever else you get your podcasts from.

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