Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - Second Date Update: Secret Garden Shocker

Episode Date: May 22, 2023

In today’s Second Date we learned about a dating app that NONE of us had even heard of before, and even though we were skeptical.. it helped one of our listener's secure his match!See omnystudio.com.../listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Ugh, we're so done with New Year, New You. This year, it's more you on Bumble. More of you shamelessly sending playlists, especially that one filled with show tunes. More of you finding Gemini's because you know you always like them. More of you dating with intention because you know what you want. And you know what? We love that for you. Someone else will too. Be more you this year and find them on Bumble.
Starting point is 00:00:28 Joel, the holidays are a blast, but the financial hangover, that can be a huge bummer. If you are out there and you're dreading the new statement email that reveals the massive balance that you may have racked up, well, you could use our help. That's right. I'm Joel. And I am Matt. And we're from the How To Money podcast. Our show is all about helping you make sense of your personal finances so you can ditch your pesky credit card debt once and for all, make real progress on other crucial financial goals that you've got, and just feel more in control of your money in general. You know it. For money advice without the judgment and jargon, Listen to How to Money on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Hi, I'm Ed Zitron, host of the Better Offline podcast. And this January, we're going to go on the road to beautiful Las Vegas, Nevada, to cover the Consumer Electronics Show, tech's biggest conference. Better Offline CES coverage won't be the usual rundown of the hottest gadgets or biggest trends, but an unvarnished look at what the tech industry plans to sell or do to you in 2025.
Starting point is 00:01:29 I'll be joined by David Roth of Defector and the writer Edward Ongueso Jr. With guest appearances from Behind the Bastards' Robert Evans, It Could Happen Here's Gare Davis, and a few surprise guests throughout the show. Listen to Better Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever else you get your podcasts from. Second Date Update. A lot of guys like a woman who's down to get dirty. Oh.
Starting point is 00:01:57 Okay. You're darn right, Jim. Where do you find someone like that, though? Like, Brooks' hometown? Sure. Craigslist? Of course. The poll over back at Brooks Hometown? We already covered that. But no, our listener
Starting point is 00:02:14 Justin found his special dirty lady. Let me guess, at Craigslist and Brooks Hometown. My hometown isn't big enough for Craigslist. He found her in the community garden. Oh. Finger deep in literal dirt.
Starting point is 00:02:30 Oh. You're like really dirty. Justin, you like a dirty girl, huh? Okay. What? Justin, don't come in with that laugh. The girls get it. Is that the reason why you're on the phone with us?
Starting point is 00:02:44 Well, yeah. We did not meet on a dating app. Shocker. Okay. You met over a flower bed. That's sweet. That's kind of romantic, kind of dirty. She was planting veggies, peas, carrots,
Starting point is 00:03:01 whatever. There's some nice bulbs you got over there. Stop it. Can we know nice bulbs you got over there. Stop it. That's really cute. Can we know what her name is? Yeah. Yeah, Katie. Katie.
Starting point is 00:03:12 She sounds like a sweet girl. I don't frequent community gardens, but I assume people who do go there often, right, to tend. Well, you have to take care of your... Right. So is it something where you had seen Katie multiple times before you actually went up and talked to her? Yes, the first time I actually got the courage to talk to her, it was very casual. And we did not exchange numbers or anything. It was more like talking about gardens.
Starting point is 00:03:34 And I asked her what she was planting. She told me veggies. Oh, wow, you got right into the naughty stuff. Yeah, I got right into the dirt. Wow, good for you. So then I saw her a day or two later. She was back at the garden. So then I went up to her and I was like,
Starting point is 00:03:49 oh, yo, how's the radishes? And I got like a little chuck off of her. Okay, look at you, Mr. Humor. How are your radishes? I don't know if I see what the joke is. Yeah, she was thinking that I actually care what she was planting, but I didn't. I just wanted to talk to her.
Starting point is 00:04:04 Oh, that's a weird confession. Yeah, I don't care about i don't care hopefully she doesn't listen back to this if it works out okay yeah i mean i told her like you know after we chatted then i got her number and i said hey there's a cute pub like a few blocks away if you wanted to go for a drink after oh look at you okay were you talking this fast when you asked her to because you seem a little nervous right now uh was it talking fast i don't know she she does get nervous this girl comes off a little bit sexy i think that's what brooke was trying to say i'm rather sexy than nervous yeah Yeah. Okay. We're sexy nervous. It's coming through right now. So you took her to a pub? Yes, and it was cool.
Starting point is 00:04:49 Oh. Everything was going great, but then the next day I texted her and nothing. Okay. Well, can we talk a little bit more about your time at the pub? Like, was flirting happening? Like any... I mean, I try. Like, I don't know how good my game is, but I try. Aw, that's cute.
Starting point is 00:05:06 It's working on us right now, dude, so keep it going. I do have a confession, though, that I didn't tell her. Okay. Oh. Beside the radish question that you didn't really care about? Yeah. What? It wasn't... I knew she was
Starting point is 00:05:22 going to be there. Going to be where? At the pub? Because, yeah, you invited her there. No, at the garden. What do you mean? How'd you know? Well, okay, my parents are on this dating app where parents kind of meet up with other parents to find dates for their single, like, young adults. Wait, that exists? Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:05:41 There's a dating app for parents to meddle in their kids' lives? Which Jeff's mom finds out about. I know. Please do not tell us what the name of this site is no no i'm not i'm not telling you but katie's parents were in on it katie doesn't know i don't think but her parents were on it and they're they're so down they talked to my parents and um i know this sounds strange, but. Yeah, I'm just trying to, this is a site where parents meet up with each other to figure out if their kids would be a good match. Yeah, they're basically like, it's basically like arranged dating, right? So like, so you're saying Katie's parents told your parents, Katie will be at the garden from three to five. Your son should show up then. Yeah, so I got a plot.
Starting point is 00:06:26 I don't even garden. I don't know how to garden. Whoa, you don't even know how to garden? Not really. I mean, I was just digging holes. I mean, I was just like, I was digging holes in the dirt, pretending. Oh my God, so you just got a plot to meet her. I got a sun hat.
Starting point is 00:06:40 I got a sun hat. You didn't have to go that hard. A bunch of water. That's all you need, really. Okay, so this would be fine if Katie knew her parents were doing this, but she doesn't know? No, I don't think so. I mean, she didn't mention anything, and I just don't want to freak her out. Can't just be like, well, at least your parents already approve of me. Right. I wonder if her parents know that she's not responding to you now.
Starting point is 00:07:04 How long has it been? It's been like about five days. And have you told your parents that she hasn't responded? Yeah, and her mother actually reached out to me. Wait, Katie's mother reached out to you? Yeah, and she said, I think you would be perfect for her. Now you want more people in on this? Like you've got two sets of parents already involved, and you want us involved, too.
Starting point is 00:07:26 I don't know why I can't have my own relationship. I don't know how I need an extra house. It's odd that the most natural thing in this entire situation is actually the fact that you're calling a radio show to intervene in your daily life. It's like we're a community garden. We've got the radio. We've got the parents. We're just trying to grow a relationship here. It takes a team. Remember, Justin hates community gardens and doesn't
Starting point is 00:07:50 care about them. He just doesn't know about them. But I will learn. I mean, if me and her go on more dates, I'll have her talk to me about the garden. Like, educate me. Nothing like faking an interest to get in with somebody. Yeah, I mean, who doesn't do that? Yeah. We're going to share that sentiment with Katie when we come I've been faking an interest to get in with somebody. Yeah, I mean, who doesn't do that?
Starting point is 00:08:12 We're going to share that sentiment with Katie when we come back and call her and try and get you a second date update right after this. Okay, Dirty Boy? Yes. Hold on. We're in the middle of a second date call. And when we left, I told Justin that we'd call Katie and share the sentiment. And I'm seeing people texting in at 78592 telling me,
Starting point is 00:08:30 don't do that. Don't blow his cover about his parents' matchmaking app. Wait, you said that we were going to tell her that? I didn't hear that.
Starting point is 00:08:36 That's not what I meant at all. I just meant share the sentiment that he really likes her and is eager to learn more about gardening. Oh, but I can see why people maybe... He really doesn't want to do that, but he says he's willing to try,
Starting point is 00:08:48 maybe. And I guess the more important question, though, that we need to talk about is, are we all okay with hiding the fact that her parents matched her with a guy without her knowledge on a dating site for parents that hook up their grown kids with each other? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:09:03 Justin, what do you think? Do you feel weird about your parents finding you a lover? Well, you know when you, like, date somebody, you have to meet their parents, and it's always awkward, and you're nervous? Like, are the parents already approved of me? That's, like, you know? It's a good thing. It's like a credit card.
Starting point is 00:09:18 You're pre-approved. The best relationships can come from, like, arrangements, honestly. Like, your parents know you best. They really do. Yeah, I watch know you best. They really do. Yeah, I watch Bridgerton. They end up really cute. Yes. All for voting to bring marriage and relationships back to the 1920s.
Starting point is 00:09:31 Say hi. Hi. Brooke, it was Brooke's idea. I don't know. It was your idea. Hey, listen, listen. If we're allowing algorithms to help us find love, why wouldn't we let our parents also help us? Those algorithms are awful.
Starting point is 00:09:44 We're trying for a one in a million chance here. And I'm just going to say we're not going to reveal the parent matchmaking app, but Justin, if you want to do that, that's totally up to you. I do feel like you should do it at some point. Yeah, I mean, we'll see. Yeah, just feel it out, all right? I'm going to call her right now. Okay.
Starting point is 00:10:11 Hello? Hey, is this Katie? Mm-hmm. Is this? I don't know why I'm nervous. Yeah, I'm a little nervous, too. I don't know if you're feeling nervous, Katie, about being on a radio show right now because you are. What?
Starting point is 00:10:26 Yeah. Surprise. Welcome to our show, Katie. We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. We do a radio show and we're trying to do a segment right now called the Second Date Update. Wow. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:10:46 So we're trying to reach out on behalf of one of our listeners who you went out with recently named Justin. We're trying to read your vibe on if you liked him or not. I mean, I'm exiting another relationship right now. Oh. Yeah. Oh, so things are a little messy right now. I mean, I don't really want to talk about it. It ended a few weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:11:07 Okay. But Justin just seems so, like, sweet and kind. And, like, I just don't want to really get into it until I'm, like, fully unattached. That's good. Okay. That's actually a really mature thing. Yeah. So you actually liked him. You're just not calling him back because you didn't want...
Starting point is 00:11:24 That's, like, out of respect to him. You're just not calling him back because you didn't want... That's like out of respect to him. Right. I don't know. We know about him, but he's a dork. But he's just really sweet. But he was just so honest and so kind and just so transparent. Like, I just felt like I knew him. And I just also feel like I've gone out with so many people.
Starting point is 00:11:40 They're being crazy or a liar or they're hiding something. And it just feels like... We don't like anything like that. For once, I was like, okay, this guy's actually really sweet. All the cards on the table right up front. He sounds genuine, but we know he's not. Well, I think he's pretty genuine.
Starting point is 00:11:58 Pretty. 99.9% at least. I will say he is very earnest. He does sound a little dorky in a sweet way. Hunky dorky. Yeah, I'm going to tell you. Hunky dorky. Hot dork.
Starting point is 00:12:10 Hot dork. Hot, well, yeah. Hunk dork, that's the new in term. I'm with you, Jeff. I mean, he was attractive, right? Yeah. You were attracted to him still. Yeah, I mean, it was kind of funny.
Starting point is 00:12:20 We met in a community garden, and he was just like, I don't know that he was particularly good at gardening. He was just like digging holes in the dirt, which was kind of funny. We met in a community garden and he was just like, I don't know that he's particularly good at gardening. He was just like digging holes in the dirt, which is kind of funny. Yeah. If Justin were to hear the things that you were saying right now, he'd probably be really happy with your review of him and of your time spent together. Your review. Like he's a restaurant, but I like it.
Starting point is 00:12:40 Yeah. That's right. He is honest. Yeah, sure. In fact, I don't have to guess if he liked it because I could just ask him since he's on the other line right now listening and wanting to talk to you. What? I'm thrilled that you like me.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Oh, there's that hunky dorky. That hunky dork energy coming through. Why didn't you tell me it was on the phone? Well, we can't all be as honest and transparent as the Justins of the world. Good one, Jeff. You know, that's just. Justin was the one. That's more credit to him.
Starting point is 00:13:09 And it's totally fine. I mean, like, I heard that you have an ex. I mean, I'm totally cool with that. I have like a million exes. A million. Wow. Yeah. Big dater.
Starting point is 00:13:21 I mean, a couple. Very strange. A million exes, huh? No. Okay. It's like literally, okay, four. I don't go on that many dates. How am I supposed to have exes?
Starting point is 00:13:33 I literally have like one ex-girlfriend. Okay. Actually, you know, I don't have an ex-girlfriend. Wait, what did he just say? Just close the mouth for a second. I think it went to zero. No, it's just kind of a weird thing that you heard me say all that, but I really think that you're just a really sweet, honest person.
Starting point is 00:13:58 Aw. I love that. Yeah, it sounded. What's wrong? Okay, I... The honesty... I am mostly honest. What? You keep mentioning...
Starting point is 00:14:14 I mean, I do not like lying. I mean, I did lie that I had a million girlfriends, ex-girlfriends. We knew that one. It was a joke. It was a joke And you know Okay I'm just going to say it
Starting point is 00:14:29 Here's the deal I didn't go to that gardening Community gardening because I like to garden I knew you were going to be there What? Because Okay My parents and your parents
Starting point is 00:14:44 Are on this dating app where they Help their single child get dates What? So is mine Oh I don't think she knew Your parents love me Your parents really love me
Starting point is 00:14:57 Oh my god They approve of it I mean my parents approve Your parents approve Like let's make this work I know that this is weird Oh no Let's make this work Oh my god Hold this is weird, but let's make this work. Oh my god.
Starting point is 00:15:07 Justin, do you have to say everything? One piece of information at a time. Oh my god, no. Can we just say real quickly, we really hoped that Katie, you already knew this. Yeah. Wait, so you knew this? Well, I mean... You know what?
Starting point is 00:15:22 No. She told us not to say anything. I just thought, you know, like, I could see why a dating app like that would work. Katie, just listen for a second. I mean, who knows you better than your mom and dad, right? No, no. You guys are s***. This is s***.
Starting point is 00:15:38 Okay. Oh, my God. That is not parent-approved language, Katie. I'm going to come to your side on that one. It's a little bit unusual. I will concede that. But Justin didn't know that his parents were setting him up either. Yeah, I actually did know.
Starting point is 00:15:54 That's how I went through the car. Okay, well, I'm trying to get you out of a hole here. I thought it was actually a great idea. I mean, it's like I do not meet any women. I see them all over the place, but I don't meet them. I'm on every dating app you could think of. Nobody's swiping for me. Okay, shut up!
Starting point is 00:16:11 Justin, shut up! Justin. Oh, God. Oh, my God. Katie, listen. It's like his phone's broken. Listen, you definitely have to have a conversation with your parents, and you can be angry at them, but this isn't Justin's fault.
Starting point is 00:16:23 He didn't make your parents do this. Some of this is Justin's fault. Some of it? He didn't say anything. He shows up in a garden and starts digging holes waiting for me. But his heart was in a good place when he did it.
Starting point is 00:16:40 Oh my god, absolutely. He still likes me. He complimented your radishes. Listen, Katie, you're a great gardener. No. I can learn from you. We could go on a dog trip. No.
Starting point is 00:16:51 You know what? It's at this point, Katie, that I would like to offer to send you to on another date that we would pay for to any restaurant in the city and far, far away from both of your sets of parents. Just give it one chance. I mean, that would make your parents so happy. Absolutely not. What about this would be enticing to any normal person?
Starting point is 00:17:12 Are you crazy? Okay, well, all right. It's a no right now, but maybe you should take some time to think about it. And if you want, we can organize so that you and Justin and both of your sets of parents can all have dinner together. Big happy family reunion. John and Julie, I think. I mean, it sounds like they're lovely people.
Starting point is 00:17:31 I know they're in for this. Yeah, they made you. Oh, my gosh. I'm in. What do you say? Just give it one more chance. Like, many people have arrangements. It's not like we got married.
Starting point is 00:17:42 We just broke out of date. You started off good and then kept going. It's all right. He's still We're just going on a date. You started off good and then kept going. It's alright. He's still there. I think he's still there. Katie. We're running out of time here so we need to get an answer from you. Yes or no on another date? I'm just f***ing with you. We're not. Oh! Dang it.
Starting point is 00:17:57 Justin, you're up to a million and one X's now. My parents can't even get me a date? Well, I don't know what I'm going to do. Those words have never been spoken before. If parents can't even get me a date? Well, I don't know what I'm going to do. Those words have never been spoken before. If my parents can't get me a date,
Starting point is 00:18:09 who can? Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. To say that she was not happy that her parents set her up would be a pretty big understatement there.
Starting point is 00:18:20 Yeah, she was zero to a hundred. There is going to be a conversation in that family. Yeah. Not sure why she was so thrown back by it. Oh, come on. Stop it.
Starting point is 00:18:30 I mean, Brooke, imagine that it came out that your parents are actually the ones who set you and your husband Michael up all those years ago. Everybody knew about it except you. You wouldn't care, right? How would you feel? At this point, I'm so deep into it. Turn it back now. Yeah, if it was a second point, I'm so deep into it. You know? Turn it back now. Yeah, if it was a second date, I'd be pissed. But, you know, now it's like, well.
Starting point is 00:18:50 I do love him. I guess my mom knew. But in Justin's case, there's probably never been an example of someone who talked themselves out of a date faster than he did. Oh, my gosh. I think there was like a 5% chance it still would have worked if he had just been quiet. She literally was like, yeah, I just need a week or two to end this one thing. And I think I'm going to focus on him. And we should have just ended the call there.
Starting point is 00:19:10 Yeah, his parents knew that he's his own worst enemy. Yeah, like, let us do the talking. Don't know why, but I just have a feeling that he's going to be back with us someday. I think probably sooner. I kind of hope. I like Justin. Maybe in a couple weeks. And we'll be ready for him.
Starting point is 00:19:25 Or his mom will be calling in. That too. And remember, you can check out all of our second date podcasts if you ever miss any of them. They're up online wherever you get yours at Brooke and Jeffrey. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Ugh, we're so done with New Year, New You. This year, it's more you on Bumble. More of you shamelessly sending playlists,
Starting point is 00:19:47 especially that one filled with show tunes. More of you finding Gemini's because you know you always like them. More of you dating with intention because you know what you want. And you know what? We love that for you. Someone else will too.
Starting point is 00:20:00 Be more you this year and find them on Bumble. Joel, the holidays are a blast, but the financial hangover, that can be a huge bummer. If you are out there and you're dreading the new statement email that reveals the massive balance that you may have racked up, well, you could use our help. That's right. I'm Joel. And I am Matt. And we're from the How To Money Podcast. Our show is all about helping you make sense of your personal finances so you can ditch your pesky credit card debt once and for all, make real progress on other crucial financial goals that you've got, and just feel more in
Starting point is 00:20:34 control of your money in general. You know it. For money advice without the judgment and jargon, listen to How To Money on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Ed Zittron, host of the Better Offline podcast. And this January, we're going to go on the road to beautiful Las Vegas, Nevada to cover the Consumer Electronics Show, tech's biggest conference. Better Offline CES coverage won't be the usual rundown of the hottest gadgets or biggest trends, but an unvarnished look at what the tech industry plans to sell or do to you in 2025. I'll be joined by David Roth at Defector and the writer Edward Ongueso Jr. With guest appearances from Behind the Bastards' Robert Evans, It Could Happen Here's Gare Davis,
Starting point is 00:21:14 and a few surprise guests throughout the show. Listen to Better Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever else you get your podcasts from.

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