Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - Second Date Update: The First Five Seconds
Episode Date: May 14, 2025When you're out to dinner and you notice something on your date's face, do you tell them or keep it to yourself? One of our listeners is worried the choice he made is why he's not getting a call back.... We'll find out in a brand new Second Date Update!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Welcome to your brand new second date podcast.
It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
And I got to say, I think today's second date calls for a poll.
We haven't done a poll in a while.
Of course, I think the poll only works on Spotify to actually click it.
Yeah, it does. But you can just put in your answer wherever else you're listening.
Whether that's on the comments, whether it's on YouTube or whatever platform you're on.
Or you can text it in to the number 78592.
If your date has something on their face,
do you say something or do you keep it to yourself?
It depends, honestly.
I'd probably wipe it off.
Yeah?
With what?
With a napkin.
Oh.
Or with a hat.
Sorry.
I'm a little excited.
All right, let us right. Let us know.
Let us know.
You'll understand why we're asking that question here
in just a second.
But first, comments from our lovely, lovely listeners.
What do you see in Alexis?
Killer Sheep said, I've been listening since February
and finally caught up with all the episodes in the Second Date
Update podcast.
I'm upgrading to the full show now.
Yes.
OK, good.
I was going to say, oh, no.
You ran out of stuff to listen to. No, no. You're on the full show. You got a lot of content. I was gonna say, oh no, you ran out of stuff to listen to.
No, no.
You're on the full show, you got a lot of content.
Plenty more.
I mean, that's the thing that people don't understand
who love this podcast, is we actually do
an hour long show every day.
Every stinkin' day we do a brand new show.
So, if you want the full show, you can go over
to our main feed podcast, just look up
Brooke and Jeffrey, that's right there.
Or you can click more like this, and I think
it's the first option that appears.
That's true too. That's true too. All you could click more like this, and I think it's the first option that appears.
That's true too.
Alright, let's get this second date started.
Second date update.
Brooke, did you know the first time that you met your husband Michael that something was special?
Not saying that you knew like you were going to get married in the first 15 seconds of talking to him,
but was there anything that happened with you?
Instantly that lets you know. Whoa, there's something real like something actually special going on
No, I just felt so good around him and I was so excited about him. Okay, you're drunk. So
I did have like five glasses of wine to make an off-color UTI joke
Okay, well, yeah UTI joke in the night I went out. Okay, well, UTI jokes.
And he still likes me.
So, hey!
Okay, that explains it.
I mean, I remember the first time that I met Jose
and I noticed his fly was down and I thought, ooh, special.
Yeah.
But you didn't tell me XYZ though.
No, I enjoyed it.
He asked you to put it down further.
Yeah.
But, you know, we don't talk about this all the time,
about that first 10, 15 seconds when you meet your date
and something happens inside that lets you know it's real.
Apparently that happened to one of our listeners,
Graham, recently.
At least that's what his email said,
and we should learn a little bit more about it.
Graham, welcome to the show, man.
Hey guys, thanks for taking my call. Oh, hi my call. I can't wait to hear about this chance
meeting. Maybe it wasn't chance meeting, whatever the meeting was. It sounds
great. Yeah, so without getting overly descriptive, how did your body let you
know this was special? Well, if you didn't have a fly open, I can tell you that.
never fly open. I can tell you that. So what's her name by the way? And how did you meet her? Her name is Aura. How'd you meet her? We met on one of those dating apps and we
decided to meet at a wine bar. All right. So going into meeting her at the wine bar, were
you expecting something special? Well, you know how you always have your hopes up.
But I knew when I walked in that I was going
to be in so much trouble.
What?
Trouble.
Good trouble?
She immediately recognized me and started
from across the room waving both of her hands over her head
like a total dork.
Oh.
She's just one of those people like me she's got no shame
i love it
and you loved that right?
oh my gosh she was just so like
effortlessly cute
little free spirit over there
her name's aura it comes from the name
just a good energy
that's adorable
and it sounds like she was excited to see you
it was one of those initial meetings where in the first five seconds I was like, oh my
God, this is just like a dream.
It was fantastic.
That must be a lot to process right when you're first getting to know somebody.
So did the feeling wear off and just get into a normal date after that?
I wouldn't say it wore off or was normal.
It was just, I mean, there was a jazz trio playing
and we were both into jazz music and she was like,
oh, let's make up names for the guys.
And so you have Shami Fly guitar playing
and Dennis the drummer, all that kind of stuff.
We were just cracking each other up the whole time
you guys were in your own world and they're already making almost inside jokes with each
other you know like just a fun fun thing now anytime any song comes on the radio you can
be like oh yeah this is my favorite drummer yeah willington drummerson you know whatever
well clearly the vibes are there so keep taking us through how the rest of the date
goes.
It just kept getting better.
I mean, our sense of like humor was just so like simpatico, I guess, to use that word.
Like at one point she had like some lipstick on her front teeth.
Uh huh.
So I started like signaling and rubbing on my own front teeth.
Good.
I'm glad you told her.
Yeah. And she looks at me, she goes, what are you having, a stroke? started like signaling and rubbing on my own front teeth. Good, I'm glad you told her.
And she looks at me, she goes,
what are you having, a stroke?
Just rubbing your tongue on your teeth?
Exactly, I was just laughing so much.
So it was fun.
Oh yeah, it went so well.
Oh my God, so why are you calling us for help then?
Like I don't get it, how could this have ended poorly?
Well, that's the thing, it didn't really end poorly. Why are you calling us for help then? Like I don't get it. How could this have ended poorly?
Well that's the thing.
It didn't really end poorly.
When we said goodbye, she just came up to me
and gave me like a really long tight hug.
Oh that's nice.
Okay, some of those are nice.
Exactly, and she says we have to definitely do this again.
Oh. That's nice.
That seems so sincere.
I've texted her twice, one time to see if she wanted to go out for coffee, second time
to see if she wanted to go to a trivia night because I think she'd be great at that.
Wait how long did you wait before you texted her?
Was this like 30 minutes after the date or was this a couple days?
I waited two days.
I think that's good.
I think that's too long.
Me too.
I think when you have a connection like that with someone that you just go with it
You just follow you don't gotta play the game of the way
You just got to grab your luggage and move in with
Have you not heard from her at all?
Well, that's the thing is like when I was texting her she did reply but both times she said that she was busy
and the worst part was like she didn't offer
an alternative time or date or anything like that.
It was like no I'm busy I can't.
I mean sometimes these free spirits
they really suck at text etiquette.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
I mean Alexis if you wanted to see a guy
would you tell him like I'm just busy or would you offer up a little bit more?
Oh, I would offer something else. I probably over offer honestly. I probably mention all the times
I'm free how many times do you apologize for being busy a lot
That she leaves it at just I'm busy and no explanation and no other follow-up to it
That could feel like that. She's trying to brush you off, I understand. And you guys had such a thing happening, it's just hard to imagine she wasn't right there with you feeling the exact same thing.
Well, maybe it was the fact that you made her pay for the dinner that night.
What, you made her pay?
I'm just assuming.
Did you wait out of the know or did you split it?
No, no, no, I'm a proper gentleman, I paid for everything.
Oh, okay.
I just need you, I need you guys to find out for me
how the hell did I blow this?
Oh, no, we're gonna find for you how to keep it going
because I've got faith in this one.
Because we don't even know that you blew it.
It could be something totally unrelated.
I am so excited to get her on the phone.
All right, well let's find out.
We're gonna come back, call Aura,
and try and get you your second date update coming up right after this, okay? Thank you. All right, well, let's find out. We're going to come back, call Aura and try and get you your second date update coming up right after this. Okay. Thank you. All
right, man. Hold on. Second date update. Whenever I'm stuck on hold with customer service for
four straight hours and the automated message keeps replaying over and over saying, we're
busy right now, but don't go anywhere, your call's very important
to us.
We're just busy.
Yeah.
I believe them.
Oh, you do?
They really, really care.
Yeah, I'm sure.
We're not understaffed.
I'm sure they're not on break somewhere.
But the thing is, if you're on the other end of a potential relationship with somebody
you really like, and you get to, sorry, I'm just busy right now.
In a rose, it's hard not to be a little bit skeptical
and feel like you're being blown off.
Yeah, especially when they don't say,
hey, press number nine for a different day to date me.
Exactly, and that's where our listener, Gram,
is after a really good date at a jazz bar
with a girl named Aura.
He has turned to us because those two busies just aren't
equaling a second meetup. And they're not equaling the vibe that they had going
when they were hanging out. It just sounds so good. I can't believe we haven't said it sooner, but
negative Aura points for her. Yeah. Graham, I mean before we call her here, how you
feeling? I'm feeling a little nervous to be honest. How's your aura I mean I get it I'm feeling
nervous for you I mean you just sound so excited and I want this to happen for
you I think we all do everything sounded so good I don't want to put this out
there but it has to be shocking like whatever the excuses you're not gonna
see like oh wow I didn't think of that there's nothing that has gone wrong
we can change that right now
Let's see if something went wrong. I'm gonna dial her number right now. Hopefully she picks up the phone. Here we go
Hey, is this aura
Yes, okay, this is a we're a show. We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Hi, aura.
The whole show's here.
Thanks for being on with us.
Uh, okay.
Hi.
I didn't, I don't think I signed up for anything.
I don't know.
You didn't.
But one of our listeners kind of signed you up for something called a second date update
Okay
So if you're not familiar with that
It's a segment that we do on our show where we try to help people who've gone out with somebody one time
But they're not getting that second meetup, and they're not sure why we can call and try to figure out if there's a reason for it
Yeah, does that make sense?
Yeah, I guess.
We know you're really busy, so we won't keep you long.
That's what we've heard.
We're really good at these, by the way.
We'll be efficient, okay?
We'll get through this.
Because we're calling about a guy
that you went out with recently named Graham.
I'm sorry, I'm like super confused.
Like, what is this?
Great question.
Well, yeah, the thing is,
we spoke to Graham about your date,
and we're just trying to figure out if there's a reason
that the two of you haven't gone out again
because you keep saying to him that you're busy.
But not offering any solutions on when to meet up.
Yeah, I mean I like, I already texted him,
like I said I was busy during the times he wanted
to hang out.
Okay. I think in his mind when you say I'm busy
That's just like it can be a word that people use to brush somebody off if you're not actually wanting to see them
But you don't want to come off as being rude like I meant what I said. I'm just really busy. Okay
But there's no way I mean like I'm sorry
We're all really busy But like when you meet somebody that you feel like you have this crazy connection with you'll make time for them
Yep, but i'm not like canceling my plans like I know we're not we're not asking you to do that
But he just asked us to call because it was unclear to him if you actually wanted to meet up
But it's not what's unclear i I'm saying okay, but I am busy.
It's unclear that if you like,
I'm honestly still unclear whether you actually
like him or not.
I like him, but like, I don't understand why like,
he needs a third party interjecting.
That's fair.
I said that I'm free, I'm just busy
during the times he mentioned.
Gotcha, I hear ya, and I don want to be the third party interjecting whatsoever. In fact
Like we're well, no listen Graham is actually the one I want you to talk to and it's perfect cuz he's right here on the other
line listening waiting to jump in
What I'm so confused like what is happening is happening? What's the deal with these jobbers
you hired to like, robie about us? Jobbers? I called you jobbers because I don't know
what you guys like. We are employed. It's not about us. Is it like a yapper? Okay. Graham,
why don't you talk to her? Yeah, I didn't I didn't hire them.
It's just a radio show and they, you know, help people get in touch if they're having
trouble getting together. So yeah, but like, I told you, I was busy a couple of times,
like, don't you think it's a little extreme to like go on a radio station? And honestly,
whoever that guy was, I've been talking to
like did not seem prepared at all.
He didn't know what I was talking about.
And he like tried to nail down a date for you.
Are you talking about Jeff?
That's fine.
Sometimes people need a common enemy
could have come together.
Well, Jeff was pretty guilty.
Honestly, I'm with her.
I wasn't doing a very good job.
That was pretty crap.
I was talking about you.
That's why.
I give myself a D.
I don't want you to feel bad.
Alright, can't you think of this as like a kind of a romantic gesture?
Like he really wants to see you and he went to all this effort.
Um, no, it's super weird.
Well, that's okay.
He said you guys had so much chemistry. I feel like you're so angry right now.
Does this feel like the same person you went out with, Graham?
Well, maybe not a little bit, but you guys have been kinda grilling her pretty hard.
Oh.
I mean, that's a regular question.
We can take the fall.
Yeah.
No, no, no, that's okay.
I mean, your intentions are great, and that's fine.
Yeah, well, so are yours, bro.
I did have some bad intentions when I dialed,
I'll be honest.
I brought some negative energy into this,
and that's my fault.
Negative aura, that's right.
I mean, you are so guilty, and you shouldn't be. Or is there anything we can do to come back Energy into this
Is there anything we can do to come back from putting you out or making you feel weird like you keep saying
You can stop asking me questions and you can just ask me out. How about that? Okay?
That's perfect that's perfect. I'd love to hang out and how about this weekend? Are you free like on Friday?
I'm busy Friday
Well, we'll have how about Saturday
I've got something that day but like you should and you probably need to know this but I'm in like two other
situations need to know this but I'm in like two other situations. Oh, that's why you're so busy. Okay.
Well, now we know why she's so busy.
Oh, Graham, I'm sorry.
Is that okay with you, Graham?
Or let me ask you, you said you're already in two situations, so really, what does that mean?
It means a lot of fun.
Oh. Wow, finally softened up. Really what does that mean? It means a lot of fun
Do you even have time for me then or what I'm free Sunday afternoon like I can squeeze you in
I'm not really sure if I want to be squeezed in between two other dudes. Yeah.
Being better scampi choosers here, like you're the one who's late for the party, but it's
still a party.
She's clearly not rejecting you, but you're gonna...
But she's offering you not much.
Yeah.
I'm single.
Like I don't have to like...
Kind of. You, I'm single like I don't have to like I know you
Think we're all jealous of you are if anything
Look I think I should just go with my gut and say you only live once and let's do it
So you're open to a possible third situationship with Aura.
Well, I mean, if the third situationship goes so well,
maybe it'll just turn into a single situationship.
Okay.
Yes.
Really optimistic, good for you.
Yeah, a little naive.
I mean, but that's the point of dating.
You're supposed to try new things and see what sticks.
Okay, that's true.
Yeah. Well, great. Now we're running out of time here. So I'm just curious though,
or if he does go through with this,
does that put him like in the third seat,
like the last place guy or does he need to do a trial run and does he have to
meet the other guys?
Is there a Google doc? Why would they meet the other guys?
I don't know how it works with this.
No, that's so weird.
No.
If it works out, it works out.
And if it doesn't, we had fun.
OK, great.
I just want to be clear that we're setting our guy up
for success here.
So we would like to offer to send you guys out on a date.
And we would pay for it.
Yeah, I mean, I'm down.
Thank you.
Not the grand romantic ending I was hoping for Graham, but a lot more realistic. Yeah
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Oh, was that like the ickyest?
Yes that we've ever gotten to a second date ever not where I wanted things to end. I'll tell you that
Yeah, but at least we got an answer to why she was busy and I guess it's clear to Graham what he's walking into right like
there's no mystery here anymore I don't know if it is really clear because we
never really asked whether the like situation ships know about each other or
how serious they really were with anything she seems pretty blunt Jeff I
mean she seems like she enjoys it for sure.
It's the one thing that made her smile during that entire call. And get like a weird sexy voice thing.
How can you not when you're thinking about your harem of guys waiting for you?
I just have a feeling our boy Graham is going to be happy settling for Sunday afternoon hangouts.
Now he's Sunday boy now. He's a pretty positive person. He might be okay with it.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, I mean...
It might end in a four-way marriage if it goes well enough.
Dang!
Sweet.
So good for you, Graham. Keep us updated.
But if you want help with your dating life, you can always email the show.
We'll call that person who isn't calling you back and go check out all of our second dates,
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