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All right, new episode today for a Friday.
Welcome to it. It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Thank you so much for being here.
Yeah, we made this one better because it's for Friday.
Yes, exactly.
Or we mailed it in.
I almost said sailed it in.
I couldn't even get the...
You mailed in, mailing it in.
There it is.
Whatever we're doing.
We're going to do comments.
Let you talk.
Yes, and we're going to...
Maybe we shouldn't let me say this name, but Sepippet Tom is saying something like that.
That's true.
They better have Brooke and Jeffrey on GTA 6.
I'm not about to steal those cars for nothing.
Somebody told me Rolando reminds him of the voice from GTA 5, one of the radio personalities.
I was like, I hope we make it into GTA 6.
Spoiler alert, they haven't approached us.
Okay.
And the game's almost out.
Well, maybe they don't approach you.
Maybe they just steal it and they know that they're so big that everyone will be excited.
And our lawyers could never be their lawyers.
There's no way radio would say no to that.
No.
Okay.
Do you not mean?
Well, I hope we hear a second date on GTA 6.
Yeah.
Okay, if you are a game designer for GTA 6 at Rockstar.
This is your verbal, okay.
Yeah.
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Brook and Jeffrey in the morning.
Second date update.
We've brought up this question on the show before.
It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Is it appropriate on a first date for a guy to bring flowers?
I'm guessing if we've asked it before,
we never got an answer.
It was a little bit in the air.
We weren't really sure.
Like if the guy wants to do that,
can it just happen randomly unannounced?
Should they have discussed the idea of flowers ahead of time?
That's weird.
If she's less than a six,
our flowers even needed.
Ouch.
Those aren't my words.
Those are from Jose's Twitter poll.
Oh, wow.
I don't have a Twitter, but that's cool.
Well, you have a poll on there at least.
But I only ask,
because our listener, Jacob, had a flower dilemma come up.
during his date. He wasn't quite sure how to handle it. But let's talk to him about it. Jacob,
thank you for being here first of all. We'll get to how flowers played into your date in a second.
But according to your email, it says you're newly single and back on the dating apps.
Yeah, recently single. And I'm trying to go out on a lot of dates. I hope that doesn't sound like callous or whatever.
No, you're playing the numbers game. Yeah.
Oh, wow.
Casting a wide net. But like apparently on the apps, people are just like ghosting more than ever, which is really annoying.
and I'm like talking like
even if you choose a time and a place
they'll just not show.
I just can't imagine being so disrespectful
like standing someone up. I mean it's happened
to a lot of guys at least what we've heard
a lot of dudes come on the show and are saying
that this is more and more frequent.
Yeah, I would assume both sex is doing.
Just common courtesy it shouldn't happen.
Yeah, yeah, totally.
Yeah, we're with you unless you did something horrible
so go on. Yeah, then you deserve it. Keep going.
He said a junk pick from the bathroom.
Yeah.
Yeah, I hope he didn't jail.
In that case, yeah.
Then we're on her side.
Sorry. Go ahead. What's going on?
So that happened to me two days before I met Rochelle, who is who I'm calling about.
Okay.
So why are you telling us about the ghostine two days before when it wasn't Rochelle that did it?
That will come into play.
Rochelle and I, we met on the apps, and she's super cute.
and we decided to meet up at an outdoor mall
and she did show up.
Oh, look at you.
Oh, wow.
V for victory.
Yeah.
Wait a hold back on that junk pick.
How was it with you and Rochelle?
It was good.
I mean, we walked around.
We did some window.
I mean, we did more like window shopping.
Yeah.
We were going to grab up IT,
but before we did, I realized that I left my cell phone in my car.
Okay.
Oh, man.
Oh, yeah.
Dude, how did you not realize before?
Jose just had a panic.
I would take five steps without it.
So what?
Why is that important?
Well, I was like, do you mind if we go and grab it?
And she's like, yeah, sure.
That'd be wild if she said no.
Yeah, it's like, you're trying to lure me into the parking lot.
And so I open up the passenger door and she sees that there's a bouquet of flowers on the seats.
Why?
Oh, that was your surprise.
Surprise.
This is where the flowers come in.
Wait.
Wait.
Why are they in the car?
He didn't say that.
What were the flowers from?
They were for that girl that goes to me two days before.
Oh.
Oh.
You had those flowers.
So they're like those wilted flowers.
Oh, and the hot car flowers.
So she sees those.
Yes, they were not in the best shape.
It weren't completely like horrific, but it wasn't good.
Yeah, it was obvious.
At least they were in the car so you could blame it.
Like, wow, it was really hot in here.
Yeah.
Wait, did you try to gift them to her at that point?
Well, I didn't try.
She just kind of took it upon herself.
She saw them.
And she says, oh, my gosh, you're so sweet.
And, you know, as she had that reaction.
I'm like, yes, I am sweet.
You're not going to stop her down and be like, let me explain.
These were for another woman.
Dude.
I mean, you probably were excited then, right?
Yeah.
So she's excited?
Absolutely.
I mean, look, I'm not going to lie.
It wasn't my proudest moment, but she was excited about it.
I was like, awesome.
Take the credit.
Yeah, but we're walking around the mall at this point with these wilted flowers.
And people are looking at it's like, what's going on with these two?
Yeah, they're like, tell us where you got those because we do not want to shop at that flower shop.
Boyfriend of the year over here.
My God.
But overall, she was really cool.
And she said she really appreciated the flowers.
She gave me a gift.
Oh.
On the lips?
Yeah, I mean, it wasn't like, you know.
Wasn't a makeout.
Yeah, I wasn't a neckin.
I haven't heard that out.
1960s are back in the chat.
Did you give her a hickie?
No, I didn't give her my letter jacket either.
But you kiss, that's nice.
A kiss at the end of the day, that's a pretty good sign that things went well.
You could say that, but I feel like it.
You would kiss people even if things didn't go well.
Is that what you're saying, Alexis?
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
You have gone to.
third base with him, even with the weird wilter flowers.
I married a guy for two weeks to get him out of my time.
I am bad.
I don't like that.
Maybe it's not as good as we all thought it was then.
Sorry.
I think it sounds sweet.
Okay.
So what's happened since the outdoor mall date?
Well, nothing.
I mean, look, I told her when we said her goodbyes after the kiss,
texting me when you get home, she got home.
She texted me.
She thanked me.
And all signs seemed like things were going great.
So wait, have you asked her out again?
Of course.
Yeah, yeah.
But I haven't heard from her.
Oh.
That's really weird.
She sounds like a catch.
Yeah, it really does.
I'm just saying maybe she has other dates and something else.
That's possible.
We'll find out when we come back and try and get you your second date update with
Rochelle, the Wiltered Flower Girl, right after this.
Hold on.
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Second date update.
Running a little bit late here.
So just to quickly recap, our listener, Jacob,
was ghosted by a woman two days before his date with a new lady named Rochelle.
And when he forgot his phone in the car, they both went to go grab it, open the passenger door,
and there on the front seat were some flowers.
Not meant for Rochelle, but for the girl who no-showed on him two days prior.
So they walked around the outdoor mall afterwards with some dead flowers in tow.
Almost dead, he said.
Not all the way.
Rochelle didn't know the difference.
She thought it was for her.
Yeah.
She grabbed him.
Ended up having a pretty good time and even got a kiss and a thank you text at the end of the night.
But since then, nothing.
So, Brooke, is there any chance that the half-dead flowers played a role in him not getting another hangout?
I can't imagine because she's the one that jumped to the insubption.
Like, she saw him and was like, oh, my God, right?
Isn't that right?
Yeah, yeah.
She'd be super excited about it, yeah.
Maybe she's definitely allergic to this particular type of flower, and the reaction didn't happen
until after the date.
I didn't think that.
That's tragic.
Trust me, I think of all the most worst case scenarios that could possibly happen.
So we got you covered, Jacob.
Yeah.
I appreciate it.
Jeffrey's anxiety is doing the work for you.
Yeah, but let's just call Rochelle and see if she picks up.
Hopefully she has some answers for us.
Thank you.
Here we go.
I'm going to dial it right now.
Hey, is this Rochelle?
Yes.
We're happy to hear that you're alive and well.
And we need to inform you.
You're on a radio show right now called
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Yes.
Hi.
Good morning.
Welcome to the show, Rochelle.
Hi.
Hey.
What's this about?
We're working.
Yes.
We are working specifically on a segment called the second date update.
Have you heard one of those before?
Okay.
I think so.
Okay.
Yeah.
So this is kind of fun.
You get to be a part of one because one of our listeners wanted us to reach out to you
to try and figure out why after going out one time,
you haven't met up for a second time.
Okay.
And when he told us the story, honestly, I don't know why either.
Like, you guys sound like it was a great time.
Yeah.
The connection seemed there with a guy named Jacob.
Oh, I don't know if I should talk about that.
That's kind of weird.
What?
Really?
Why?
Jacob that you went to the hell with?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I know.
He recap the date for us.
That's how this segment works.
We hear about it.
And then we call to try and figure out if there's a reason why you're not calling him back.
Did he mess up on the date or afterwards?
How did he mess up on?
We're assuming he did.
Maybe he didn't.
And it's something going on in your life that's totally separate.
But he's just completely in the dark.
It's so weird, you guys.
I don't know if I should talk about this.
It's weird.
That makes me want you to tell us so much more.
I know.
I should tell you.
It's just one date that you went on.
Like, you can't hurt his feelings.
Okay.
Oh, yes.
Okay.
So, like, the date itself was, like, really good.
Like, we had a nice time.
He was a gentleman.
He was really nice.
Okay.
But, like, after the date, I went out with my family for dinner.
And my love life came up.
Always does with family.
Yeah.
If you're single, they want to know.
Yep.
Are you married yet?
Exactly. So they were asking me how the date went and asked to see a picture. So I showed them his photo from the app and my aunt starts laughing. And I was like, what? And she goes, I know him.
What? Your aunt knows Jacob?
Yes. They went out a little over a year ago.
Oh. Oh my God. I wanted this to be like he's a barista at my favorite coffee shop situation.
I would have loved that, but it's not.
Wait, went out, like, went out one time, or they dated?
No, like, they went out, like, a handful of times, like, four or five times.
And he ended up, like, ending things with her because he started dating someone else, like, I guess, a little bit seriously.
Oh, he said that he was back on the app.
Oh, yeah, because he just got out of her relationship.
I bet he has no idea.
I would be mortified if I was pooping out with someone's niece or nephew.
He's got a time.
Yeah, yeah.
The aunt was first, so...
Yeah, you're right.
So that's the reason there's nothing that he did to, like, mess it up.
He dated the aunt.
Well, no, I mean, yes, that's history, though.
You've got to be worried your aunt's in the same dating pool as you.
He's not the same guy as you, honestly.
Your aunt liked him enough to go out with him four or five times.
That must mean she felt pretty strongly about him.
Yeah, that's why it's really weird.
Oh, man.
Oh, no.
That's not true.
Well, but, but, okay, I hear.
what you're saying and I understand the
feelings are a little bit mixed, but why
don't you wait till making a final
decision until you talk to Jacob directly
because he is on the
other line of this call listening right now.
Probably in shock, honestly.
I'm really curious. Jacob,
are you there? I am here.
Oh my God.
I was not
prepared for this.
I see your voice
again. I got to
Okay, who's your aunt?
Oh.
Oh, no.
I can't even think of it.
Okay.
Well, she's my aunt Kathy.
Kathy is her name.
Oh, my God.
You're Kathy's niece?
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
You talked about her?
Oh.
I guess.
Oh, wow.
Is Kathy, like, way younger than your mom or dad?
Yeah, that's what I'm hoping.
She's in her, like, very early 40s.
like she just turned 41.
Okay.
Okay.
I'm in late 20, so.
Okay.
That's not like a crazy gap.
This is wild because, I mean, now I can totally see the resemblance.
Yeah.
Oh, that's not.
That's not fixing it, too.
I mean, but that's why you're not calling me because I dated your aunt for a bit?
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
I mean, yeah.
Jacob.
It was one date, maybe, but four or five, we all know what happened.
Yeah.
At least your aunt didn't say anything bad about him.
Yeah.
Or did she?
I mean, she said really nice things about them.
It's just like spray this out in your head.
If we were to continue, then you're going to see her at family function.
Like, that's so bizarre that she would be having to hang out with someone you made out with.
Brooke goes to her family reunions and they go just fine.
No, I mean, Michelle, they're adults.
Like, who cares who you made out with?
Making out is better than what I thought it was going to be honest.
Yeah, that's not.
Yeah.
It's just making it out.
I mean, we did a little bit more than that.
Okay.
Oh, okay.
Well, dang, every time we set you up.
Like, look, Kathy is a classy lady, all right?
She wouldn't bring anything up.
I know, but I know now.
And it's weird.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, not just you guys, the whole family that was at that dinner knows.
Yeah, and imagine a family dinner now in like a year.
And Kathy's the cool.
Right?
Yeah.
She's dating the same type of guys that you're dating.
She's the one that's like...
Yeah.
If it doesn't happen with Jacob, it's going to happen with the next dude you date.
Who hasn't to Aunt Kathy been with?
There's no chance of Aunt Kathy hitting on him at this point because she's already been there, done that.
Exactly.
That's a point.
No competition.
Look, listen, Kathy.
I mean, I'm sorry.
Wrong.
Oh, God.
Sound the same.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
That came out obviously very wrong.
There's a lot of emotions happening right now.
Look, yes, that happened and it was a thing.
But honestly, I want to go out with you.
You know, I thought we had a really great time.
And obviously, that's why we're here on this on this show.
And yeah, I'm just really interesting.
Thank you.
That's so nice.
And you are really nice.
And I'm going to keep going with this momentum that you're saying right now.
Don't let the energy shift.
I'm not going into this call, did I think we were the type of show that
would try to set up a woman with their aunt's ex-boyfriend?
Yes.
Yeah, we for sure would.
I'm going in, I didn't.
But now I'm full force going for it.
We would love to send you on another date, Rochelle, with Jacob.
And if you say yes, we would pay for it.
I mean, you obviously like him.
You had a great time.
How often do you meet a guy like that on the apps that not only shows up,
but shows up in a way that makes you feel good?
And it brings you flowers.
Oh, we can talk about the flowers.
That's super nice.
Mm-hmm.
My aunt even said that he was always a gentleman.
But unfortunately, I just don't think I can get past the weirdness.
Oh, wow.
My aunt Kathy is still single if you want to give her a call.
Go back to coffee.
You did have a lot of great things to say about Kathy.
So Jacob, it sounds like it's a no from Rochelle, but.
Rochelle, if it's absolutely positively 100% no, then yeah, I have Aunt Kathy call me.
That is not romantic
I feel love happening
If everybody else says no
Then sure
I'll pick up
Whatever name
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Okay, let's just admit, was that a huge mistake that he accidentally called her by her aunt's name during the
call? I mean, yes.
Yeah. For sure.
We said...
Boyce probably sound the same and he didn't realize.
Totally. We said Aunt Kathy how many times.
Because it's just kind of a fun name to say.
Totally. Like, who doesn't have an Aunt Kathy?
You mistake names all the time.
Right.
To make it better.
I've got to enjoy the name while she remembers it.
Yeah. And at least it wasn't during intimate time.
Oh, right?
Oh, my God.
The silver lining. And I'm not talking about Aunt Kathy's hair either.
I'm just saying...
She's in early 40s, Jeff.
Geez.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Middle age.
Yeah, well, that's when the hair starts.
So I know how it works.
I'm just saying it could have been worse,
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