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Hey, welcome to your week.
It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning with a brand new second date update.
And this is just one where I constantly am shocked at what listeners don't.
tell us. Yeah, totally.
You know what I mean?
Like, there are going to be a lot of thoughts after
this. I know that for sure. So just
sit back and enjoy, but we
always love to start with your comments. Yeah,
this one was a little confusing.
But David said, found my wife at the
DMV, and boy, do I wish I could return
her, L.O.L. Yeah.
I didn't know if I was missing
the joke or if it's serious. That's how
long the lines are. This guy got married. He had a
whole relationship all the time you got to the front.
I see. I didn't know you could return things.
DMV.
I didn't know that he got confused.
What a romantic, my friend, really.
You're stuck.
Yeah.
Sweet.
All right, let's get your brand new second date right now.
Second date update.
Ladies will tell you that men on the dating apps come in all different forms.
Yeah.
You've got the shy boys, the alpha bros, the doggie dads, the tough and ruthless and the rough and toothless.
And most of them all live on a site called Plenty of Fish.
Where, coincidentally, that's exactly where our listener, Christine, met her date recently.
Oh, did you like the toothless ones, too?
I wonder which category of man he's going to fall into.
But, Christine, welcome to the show.
Hello.
Hi, Christine.
It's interesting.
Plenty of Fish is ridiculed a lot, right?
Not just by people on our show, but just in the world in general.
What made you turn to that site?
Well, I just, I didn't really have great luck on, I guess, like, the other ones.
Okay.
So I just thought, I'll give it a shot.
I've actually never tried plenty of fish because everyone's talked bad about it.
I guess go towards it, huh?
Yeah.
Desperation can bring you to do a lot of different things.
So that's really exciting.
Well, you got a date.
Or maybe it's, like, so good, the people on it, like, talk badly to keep it out.
Oh, my God.
You can't keep it?
Yeah.
All right. Well, tell us you obviously met a guy. What's his name? Luke.
Okay. And what type of guy is he on the dating apps?
He is like a rugged guy and like a, I'll build a log cabin with my bare hands kind of guy.
You got a Jeffrey on your hands, huh? Lucky you.
Log cabin, rugged guys don't go to private school with family yachts.
He bought a log cabin. That doesn't count. It's not a Jeffrey because Jeffrey has a beard.
Brooke, you're sounding very jealous that she actually.
He actually met a really tough and rough tumble guy.
It's just funny, because, like, you've never had a callus on your hands.
So it's...
That's not what a callus is.
In his palm, bro.
I don't know why I was doing that.
I was manly, dude.
Okay, tell us about Luke.
Sorry.
Now he's wiping his hand out.
Yeah.
So, you know, he's very manly.
He's very handsome.
Yep, yeah.
I mean, I thought we had a good connection on our date.
What'd you guys do?
Wait, hold on.
Where'd you go?
What'd you do?
Yeah.
Oh, we went to Outback Steakhouse, which I love.
Oh.
Was there like a big highlight moment of the date for you that really stands out as the best part of the night?
I guess I'll say this.
He was an absolute gentleman.
Like he held the door open for me.
And I thought it was like flirtatious.
I thought we had good chemistry.
Okay.
Well, I mean, the vibe that you're describing right now is very positive.
You obviously liked his physicalness.
You say the conversation went really well.
Hot hands.
Hot, rugged, callous hands.
But what signals were you getting from Luke towards you, or were you getting any signals at all?
That's a good question.
What was your read?
I mean, I guess he wasn't, like, overly, like, he wasn't, you know, some people really lay it on sick.
I thought he was just kind of polite.
But, I mean, he was answering my questions.
He had good eye contact with me.
Kind of like a job interview type of vibe.
I didn't think it was that sterile.
That's terrible.
A spicy job interview.
couples the menus real quick. All right, next question.
There was a point where maybe he thought something I did was a little weird.
I'm not entirely sure.
I'm intrigued.
Oh, you got to tell us.
Yeah, what do you do?
I ordered two entrees.
And I don't know that he liked that.
Can I help you a little?
I went to a super nice restaurant with my bros recently, and one of my friends ordered two entries just because he's like, I'm never going to come to this nice restaurant for a long time.
She was at Outback Steak House.
Yeah.
I don't even be nice Italian where they give you too small of an amount.
And I also ordered a dessert.
Whoa.
Okay, so maybe it's rude if he's paying and you order this much.
I kind of subtly offered to pay, but then he just, he just did.
How did the night end?
Like, did he say, I can't wait to see you again or make any indication that he was thinking about a second date at that point?
So, okay.
So, like, at the end of the date, I told him, like, hey,
If you're interested, you can, because we both drove separately.
So, like, if you want, you can just follow me home.
We can watch a movie or something and keep hanging out because I was having a really good time.
Okay.
Wow, that's quite the invite.
What did he say?
He kind of just said, like, okay.
And you, like, gave me a hug.
So I'm not sure if it's because I drove too fast and he just couldn't follow me.
I'm not really.
So he said yes to going back and following you to your place, but you sped home.
I guess it was like halfway into the drive home.
I just looked up and I realized he wasn't there anymore.
Dude,
anytime you tell someone to follow you,
you realize how slow your friend's drive.
Right.
I've done this too.
You're like,
where are you?
It's like, I'm still two lights down.
Yeah, why didn't you just text him your address or something?
So I ended up messaging him the next day
because I wasn't sure like if he purposefully ditched me or...
Or if the okay was never an actual like I'm following you.
Yeah, I wasn't sure.
And if he did ditched me.
me. I didn't want to be like, oh, where are you right now? Yeah. So I waited until the next day and I
messaged him and I basically just was kind of like, oh, I had such a nice time. I'd love to see
you again. But I do want to like, I don't know. I just want to like talk to him on the phone.
I just want to like know what happened because I was really, I was really into him. So wait, how are we
It sounds like you're really into him. You just want to hear his voice one more time and bring you
happiness.
How are we going to call him if you guys were only messaging through the app?
Well, so at that point, I didn't have his phone number, but I have it now.
Okay.
You had the police look it up.
Wait, no, wait.
How did you get his phone number?
On the app later, after.
I was like, do you mind if we just text?
Is that okay?
So I have texted him after, but now he's just kind of not responding.
Okay.
Well, that's good.
Yeah.
That means he doesn't despise you enough to give you his number.
Because you would just unmatch and not talk about.
And I thought you were going to be one of our listeners who loves to do.
do things like really
hire private detectives or something to find
you're going to. We should ask, are you on the FBI
or anything? I'm actually really
relieved. No, I have a good friend like
that, but I'm not. Okay.
All right. All right. Well, you have your friend
be our backup plan in case we really need
to track this rugged guy down.
But we're going to come back and call Luke
in your Plenty of Fish
Outback Steakhouse. Second Date update.
Oh, I love the limited edition ones. Medium
Rare coming up right after this.
Second date update
One girl, one boy
Three entrees
40,000 calories
And somehow zero follow-up
About a second date
After a good meal like that
That's pretty much what happened when our listener
Christine met up with the rugged
Walking Mountain of testosterone named Luke
Over at the Outback Steakhouse
God, I just want to grunt right now
We've been talking about a movie
She even gave him the rare offer of, you know, you can follow me home tonight if you want, and I won't be mad.
Christine was obviously very into Luke.
But I'm curious, Christine, what do you have to say to anyone who might think you came off as a little bit too eager?
Well, I'm not interested in someone who thinks I'm too eager.
I want someone who's going to take me as I am.
That's a good one.
And God, why is being excited about something bad these days?
You know what?
To play it cool.
Be excited.
Don't act like you've been there before, you know?
Live in the moment.
I've never even seen a woman before in real life.
Oh, my goodness.
Hey, you know what?
And order the damn two entrees, Jeff, okay?
Life's short, all right?
Brooks says order three entrees, Jeff.
That's right.
Bankrupt yourself.
Whatever's for days.
In your pants for all I care.
Steal.
No, okay, not that part.
See, remember when I talked about a little bit too eager, how it comes across?
That's right.
That's exactly what I'm saying.
Hey, I'm ready to call this guy for you, Christine.
All right.
That's the perfect amount of you here.
All right, let's just do it.
I'm going to dial his number right now.
We'll see if he picks up.
And, Christine, remember, don't jump in until we call you out and tell him that you're on the phone, okay?
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
All right.
I know you're eager.
Just try to hold it in.
Here we go.
Hello, there's Luke.
Whoa.
Hello.
I know, I wasn't expecting that.
Hey, are you the brawny man?
His hands just answered the phone.
Luke, this is a radio show.
We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
What's going on, guys?
Sorry, man.
We know this is weird.
Let Jeff explain.
This is a radio show.
We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
And we're doing a segment called a second date update.
Second date update.
There you go, Jeff.
Sorry about that.
Okay.
I mean, uh-huh, uh-huh.
Yeah.
So basically, it's a segment where we try to help out.
listeners in their dating lives if they've gone out with someone and they're not
getting a call back for a second meetup we can try and reach out on their behalf to
figure out why okay I've heard of it yeah yeah okay and we've heard some good things
about you mm-hmm was that too eager no it's the true little tone was a little bit
sensual yeah we heard it from a woman named Christine who you took to the outback
steakhouse recently and now you're not calling her back
Oh
Yeah, she knows why
Actually, she doesn't
Yeah
She has no idea why
Otherwise she wouldn't be reaching out to our show
To get a hold of you
Really
Well, you're not here up
That's interesting
Obviously it sounds like
It should be pretty apparent
Well, when you bring your three kids
On the date and you don't tell the person
That you're going on the date with
That you're bringing your third kids
Whoa, wait
Oh my goodness
Are you joking?
Christine did that?
Wait, she did not mention she brought children or had children.
Or invited you home to her house with children.
Yeah.
Yeah, she has three kids that she brought on the date.
They're like five, seven and ten.
Okay.
That is so awkward.
They were at the table with you or they were out waiting in the car?
Let's hope not, Jeff.
That's worse, Jeff.
This is a good gauge.
Yeah, look, I've been on some dates.
And, I mean, there was some positives about it.
But I wasn't expecting to pay for all the extra meals.
Oh, that's why she ordered the second entree.
Yeah.
I mean, it got a little bit weird.
I had to take the younger one to the bathroom.
Oh, did that do to you?
She had a stranger take her son to the bathroom.
What are you going to do?
No.
Well, the older kid was being really weird and wouldn't do it, so.
Good for you, man.
I have so many questions.
Like, how did she even introduce?
you to the children like as mom's friend or what she just you know said these are my kids kids these are
Luke and you know let's have fun and it was it was different for sure say good things about
mom I mean were they good kids are they well-behaved kids oh yeah yeah no they were well-behaved
I mean except for when they came with the bathroom the one was being a little bit of a brat but yeah
okay why would she not tell us that like that is so bizarre just
She think that's normal?
That's actually a great question, Brooke, and we should just ask it directly to Christine
because, Luke, you don't know this, but she's on the other line right now, waiting to jump in
and talk to you.
Wait, what?
Are you serious?
I think the kids are at school, so it's just us, though.
I didn't hear anything in the background.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
Wait, Christine, hello.
Are you there?
Hello.
Yes, I'm here.
Wow.
Yeah, you've got some explaining to do, Christine.
Well, look, I didn't tell you guys that I brought my kids because.
You didn't ask.
No.
No, no.
No, we never asked that.
That is not a normal question.
We probably should be more thorough as investigators.
Write that down.
Always asked if you have kids on a date.
Parents don't bring kids on dates.
They don't bring kids if you're married and on a date.
They don't bring kids if you're not married and single and on a date.
It's not considered a date.
So you've read the rule book on dating with children.
No.
Come on now.
There is nothing sexy about being out on a date and having children there,
especially if they're yours.
children and you have to take care of us.
Okay, you sure are judging her a lot, and we haven't even
heard the reason why.
Like, maybe there's a totally logical explanation
behind this. Right, Christine?
I just figured if
he's going to date me, he needs
to know all the people that I have in my
life and that are very close to me,
who closed to me than my children.
So I just thought it'd be a good way to just meet us all
up front. And honestly, I mean, look, you handled my three kids
really well. I think I could see us
having more. Whoa.
More than three?
Oh, yeah.
I want at least six kids.
And as we said, I only have boys.
So it'd be nice to get some girls in there to balance it out.
Wow.
Luke, she just put it on the table for you.
What do you think?
I did not know.
She was trying to be octal mom.
Like, I got to be honest.
You know, when she invited me back at first, I was like, okay, but it felt a little weird.
And then on the way there, I was like, what are we going to do when we're?
get there. He wanted to watch a movie. We're going to watch
like Moana or something.
Hey, Moana's great. He's familiar with the
Disney movies. That's a good sign.
Yeah, but I mean, I certainly have
a lot of movies to choose from. I just thought
it would be kind of nice.
To do a family movie? Yeah, I
just think that it's something you mention
on a first date that you have kids.
You don't necessarily bring them on
the first date. It can't be good for your
kids to be part of your dating
life. Hey, they got a nice meal out of it, bro.
I think he's fine.
Alexis, do you like being involved
with your mother's dating life? Okay, well, no.
But she's older now
as a five or seven-year-old. It would have
been really fun, I'm sure. Well, I mean, it could have turned
out a lot worse. You know, my two baby
daddies, they were asking what I was up to.
I was thinking about even inviting them.
Wait, no. You said baby daddy's
plural? There's multiple? Yeah.
That's fine. Yeah.
Okay. Why would you bring them on a date?
They asked,
and they have every right to see their kids. So,
I mean, if they want to come by,
Wow.
Wow.
Could have been a party.
Three kids is some baggage, but three kids and two baby daddies, that's a whole lot of baggage.
But they do feel, it does sound like they all get along.
Yeah.
We do.
I get along with the two of them.
I don't get along with the other one, though.
Oh.
That makes sense.
Are you trying to have six kids by six different guys?
Like, what's going on?
Just family's really important to me.
And look, Luke, I think you're great.
I think you're this, like, wonderful, traditional manly guy.
I love your big.
hand and I just thought
maybe if you're up for it
we could do a date with less people and I
could just bring like one kid or something
Oh yeah that's a pretty good deal
for you Luke because I mean
I get how expensive babysitting is
So there is that piece of it
Yeah and it sounds Luke like you weren't
Turned off by the fact that she had kids
It's just that she surprised you
with him and you weren't ready for it
So Luke hopefully you can forgive her
For her one little mistake
Of not warning you about her
Her three little mistakes, not warning you.
And then we would love to offer to send you on one more date with her,
a date that we would pay for.
I'm only going to bring one kid next time.
I won't bring all three.
It'll be a much cheaper date.
I think it'll go a lot better.
Wait, which one are you bringing?
The bathroom one or the troubled one?
You probably shouldn't bring the bathroom one.
Neither, the middle one.
The middle one.
It's always the middle child.
Seems like the good one.
Yeah.
What do you say, Luke?
One more chance.
I'm going to have to pass guys.
Oh, wow.
Oh, Christine.
You're a really sweet girl, and I hope everything works out for you.
That's good.
That's nice, yeah.
You're just saying that because his voice is really sexy.
It is a very sexy voice.
She still backs it.
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
All I know is what I've been told, and that's a half-truth is a whole lie.
For almost a decade, the murder of an 18-year-old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved,
until a local homemaker, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story.
I'm telling you, we know Quincy Kilder, we know.
A story that law enforcement used to convict six people and that got the citizen investigator on national TV.
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This Kentucky housewife helped give justice to Jessica Curran.
My name is Maggie Freeling.
I'm a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist, producer,
and I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find.
I did not know her and I did not kill her,
or rape or burn or any of that other stuff that y'all said.
They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her.
They made me say that I poured gas on her.
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A lot of weirdness in that call for sure, but at the end of the day, it was on us.
Was it?
Because we didn't ask if she brought her three children on a first date.
She said I ordered multiple meals, multiple dinners, and no one in the room was like, oh, were there other people at the table with you?
No, we all just assumed she ate it herself because that's exactly what we would do.
We were harassed, I was excited.
She's like, get it, girl.
Yeah.
I'm a hungry girl.
Yeah.
I got her on that.
The three kids she lost me on.
We should have been more forward and more asking better with our journalistic abilities.
Brooke, you went to college for this.
Come on now.
The last thing I want to think about when I'm on a date as kids.
Don't you have two of them?
Yes.
And you don't want to think about them when you're having a romantic date.
Okay.
But again, I think the point is we can be better and not have surprises like that.
Slam us in the face the next time we do a call like this.
I'll write that down.
It was.
That was really tragic.
But we do have some good work in our history.
You can go find some of it online.
And all of our podcasts, they're available up wherever you get them at Brooke and Jeffrey.
The murder of an 18-year-old girl in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved for years until a local housewife, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story.
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