Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - Second Date Update UPDATE: 5 Second Holiday Makeout Hack

Episode Date: July 17, 2025

A couple that met at holiday work party did a 2nd date with us way back in December. And after the call, we thought there was NO WAY this relationship would work out....but they are back with a very SURPRISING update about what's happened since being on the show!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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or wherever you get your podcasts. Ooh, in for a treat today. We got an update update. Hey, it's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Now the way these work is we wanna make sure everybody's on the same page, because honestly, we need to re-listen to this stuff when Jeff tells us, oh, you know that couple

that was on the show six months ago, they're back. We're like, we don't remember what happened. Yeah. I don't remember six minutes ago. Yeah. So we're gonna replay the original episode when they were on, and then after, we're going to have them back on the phone

and tell us what's happened since. What's happened since. So you've got to stick around through the whole thing on this one. And comments, we love those. Yes, I saw one from Yuki who said, on my way from Germany to a vacation in Norway, and listening to this while on the bus, the best time killer

ever. And it's such a foreign thought for us in the States, like to be able to be on a bus and go to this while on the bus, the best time killer ever. Right. It is such a foreign thought for us in the States, like to be able to be on a bus and go to Norway. I know! That's so cool. You're the most annoying person on the train because you're laughing so much. Yeah.

I love it. All right, let's get this update started right now. We've all heard the famous cliche, it's like Christmas in July. Yeah. Well, we're literally doing it. What do you mean? We've all heard the famous cliche, it's like Christmas in July. Yeah! Well, we're literally doing it. What do you mean? Because we did a second date call back in December featuring two potential lovers who met at a work holiday party.

Okay. And even though that night didn't go the way they planned, and frankly our call with them didn't go much better, somehow we've got them both back on the phone for a very surprising second date update update It's a Christmas in July special and it happens next second date update Alexis is there one sentence a random guy could say to you that would make you instantly want to kiss him Other than ma'am, can I get your license and registration please? Oh.

Yeah he's gonna get your info. What about asking for like my Starbucks order? Oh. You know, that simple? Buying me a coffee? That changes my whole day. Yeah, that is great. I thought you had a higher price than that.

No! Just six dollars? Three shots of espresso rice? I'm set. That is a high price. Wow. I don't know about that move, but one of our listeners says he was taught something that he claims can get any member of the opposite sex

to go in for the kiss right after you meet them. Okay. A kiss? I'm sorry, after you meet them? Right when you meet them. That's wild. I don't believe this. I'm curious to find out what it is.

So let's talk to Joseph. Now, Joseph, you gotta be careful because we all might try to kiss you once we hear it, but tell us about this move that you learned. Okay, well, I wanna make this apparent. I wanna make this known right now. I didn't even develop this. This came from a female friend of mine.

Okay. Okay. Yeah, she said, if you've been making eye contact with a woman, you know, at a bar or an event or maybe a party, all you have to do is welcome to her and you have to be nonchalant. Look at them and say, hey, you're pretty, you wanna make out with the attitude of not really wanting to and don't care.

Oh. Hey, you're pretty, wanna make out. I'm gonna tell you, it is hard to imagine this working. No, okay, if you're attracted to the person, then it works. If it's someone you're not attracted to, it's not gonna work. Yeah, she's right.

How did you feel hearing that word of advice from your friend? It was horrible. I was so uncomfortable. I'm like, yeah, I'm like, this will never work. I'm gonna get slapped. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. There's logic.

Yeah, so despite your better logic, you tried it? We did, we did. Cause she said nine out of 10 times they'll go for it. So she was like, you know, we're going to go to a holiday party at her job, a work event. Oh my God. At a work event?

You want to sell this down? That's a risky move. It's not his work. Yeah, okay. It's hers, it's hers. But still, he's going to be, oh, you're the girl that brought the guy and kissed everyone.

I wish this happened at our holiday parties. How many people work at her, Oh yeah work at her office or wherever she is? Man, it's like hundreds. Hundreds. Oh, it's on companies. You got a big company. Where they throw actually cool parties. Yeah, I've been to those. Yeah, so it was like an open bar and she said, you know, a lot of cute girls work with her at her company.

So I was like, okay, you know, with the skepticism, you know, a lot of cute girls work with her at her company. So I was like, uh, okay, you know, with the skepticism, you know? And she also told me that, you know, we didn't have to hang around each other, just get out there, mingle, and that's what we did. Oh yeah, because I was worried that you were gonna look like the boyfriend, you know? I mean, because everyone asks,

who's your, like, how are you there? People are like, how are you here? I mean, people may not even ask. With hundreds, when you go to those big ones nobody asks What department do you work in yeah, so you you just went to the party and first cute girl You saw you just walked right up to her and use the line. Oh No, that is not how that happened. I was I was standing around for at least an hour and a half Yes, I was nervous

Think about this meeting someone for the first time who's attractive is a little nerve-wrecking standing around for at least an hour and a half. Just, I was nervous. Oh. Mustering up. Think about this, meeting someone for the first time who's attractive is a little nerve-wracking. Right. The first kiss is always nerve-wracking. Doing them at the same time. And in like a public event, you can't just go to your bedroom.

Yes. Like you're in, well. And you better not have eaten any of the appetizers because you want to have good breath. Yeah, yeah. Sure. So, like at what point did you actually try it? Or did you get there?

When the drinks came in, this is an open bar. The courage juice came in and I spotted this really, really cute girl and I went up to her and I gave the line and she was like, you know what? It's the holidays. Why not? And she grabbed me by the hand hand let me to a quiet corner and we made out oh my god it wasn't even just like a quick kiss or anything no we made out location to kiss that's kind of cool it worked it was crazy at

what point did you learn her name? In the middle of it? My name's Jessica. Or yeah. Did you get the name? She did give me the name. Her name was Katrina. Okay. We talked like 10, 15 minutes after our make out.

Okay, so you made a connection. You get all the hard stuff out of the way. Now it's easy. But then what? The night ends or do you- and I answer you like do you or how many other women yeah how many other women do you use this on at the work party no no it was it was just her and she gave me her number and it was like wow I was like I can't believe that actually worked did you guys get to

connect did you talk after have you texted or anything it was like here and there so some okay yeah yeah just a little bit Maybe she feels awkward for making out with somebody at her own What a woman who leads a man into a corner is not embarrassed Yeah, after an hour and a half of drinking I mean What about what does your friend say about her co-worker like did you tell her what happened kind of I told my friend at? The moon worked and she was like, Oh my God, who was it? But I didn't want to say because, you know, I didn't want to like, have it weird for her, like at her company.

What she brought you and told you to do it. I mean, honestly, there's so many people that work there. She may not even know her. She could be a plus one of somebody. Yeah. Oh, that's a good point. There's a lot of, people that work there she may not even know her she could be a plus one of somebody so your friend doesn't know who it is and you've been trying to reach Katrina for how long actually have a date and see if there's like a connection there yeah a sober date or starting sober me that doesn't sound very fun yeah well we'll try and arrange something for you with you and Katrina when we come back get you your second date update

All right after this hold on Second date update you're in the middle of a second date update update And we're gonna find out how the couple is doing right after you here part two Today we learned about a hot dating hack Today, we learned about a hot dating hack. Yeah, well, kind of. Yeah, sort of. Where apparently if you go up to any woman with a nonchalant attitude and casually say, hey, you're cute.

You want to make out a lot of times if they're single, they'll say yes to that. Wow. And maybe even if they're not single, if you deliver it the right way. Apparently, Jeff isn't nonchalant enough because nobody in this room is making out with him yet. You keep saying it over and over again. I did not do it right. But the thing is we never asked what do you do if the response back is no. Or what? Yeah or just something besides yes.

Who are you? You are embarrassed and you shy away. But that's not a good look. You hope that you never see them again. Let's ask our listener Joseph if any of our listeners want to try this move for themselves What are you supposed to say to a rejection? Well if they say no you say yeah problem Just find me when you're ready. Oh no problem. Just find me when you're Cuz then you really don't care you're like okay That's so, that's awesome. I almost want them to say no.

Cause then you really don't care. You're like, okay, no worries. You'll probably change your mind. I would've said me neither. I don't want to either. Or I wasn't asking you. Yeah. By the way, can we not call him out on this as a move?

That he, like, oh that it was even a bet? Like when she picks up, don't be like, the trick worked on ya. You know? The thing is, is that he really likes her. That's why we're calling. Brooke, why are you looking looking at me for that Alexis is the one that usually ruins these Constant chatty Kathy over there dropping all the show you are so self-aware Yeah, all right Alexis pipe down we're gonna call this girl Don't ruin this for us here we go

Hello, hey is this Katrina yes, it's Katrina This is a morning show we're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning and we are very very eager to talk to you. You want to do a second date or something? No. Wow. Okay how did you reach me this is kind of odd. It's hard to answer that because we got an email from one of our listeners that met you recently at a holiday party named Joseph. Oh, Joseph, okay. Yep, I remember him. Good. How would you describe him?

Flat out, I guess I'd describe him as a liar. A liar? What do you mean? Like he lies down a lot? You like to nap, oh, I'm a liar! He just completely lied to me. I met him. Yeah.

You had such a brief interaction with this guy. At least according to him, what we've heard. Oh, so he told you all about it? About the 15 minutes. So I don't know if this is what Joseph told you, but we ended up making out, not usually the order in which I do things,

but we made out and then we had a talk. Oh. Yeah. You don't normally do it that way? That's how we do it, so. Yeah. Yeah. But.

No, I do not. Oh, okay. This is definitely different for me. But then he tells me he works at my company. So I'm like, what are you doing here? I don't recognize you so I looked him up and there is no record of this guy Working my company. I don't know why he said that Sometimes my friends out meet people at the bar and you could just make stuff up and then you don't think you're gonna end

Up liking them. Yeah, but you've already made up like oh, yeah, I work in whatever I mean that makes sense Alexis like or it's just easier, right? Yeah, easier to say yeah, I work here, too Maybe he owns stock in the company and in a way that's like financially responsible for the company Yeah, what was that CBS show undercover boss or something? And it's like oh no actually I own the whole thing Maybe maybe some maybe some sort of like misunderstanding situation like that okay? I highly doubt that was the case okay, so you're just mad because he lied to you about working

Yeah, there was no reason for him to so I don't know how to respond to this guy because I don't know who yet In the party is he some kind of pervert? Oh, pervert. Okay. Why would you go to pervert? I mean, why don't you just text him? You don't have to text him or do anything like that because actually Joseph is on the other line right now waiting to talk to you. Seriously? Perverts do.

In a non-pervy way. He's quietly listening in. The whole time he's been listening? Oh, God. No, it's because he likes you. Joseph, tell her. Katrina, I am so sorry. Let me just start out with that.

I want to apologize. Good start. I forgot that I did tell you those things and I want to tell you where that's coming from. I'm not a pervert. I'm not a did tell you those things and I want to tell you where that's coming from. I'm not a pervert. I'm not a stalker or any people, nothing like that. Do you work there? I don't work there.

Okay. No. No, he just said that. All right. I'm going to tell you something. I'm going to be transparent. This came from a friend of mine who does work there and she gave me a move. If I want to say it like that as far as if I do

this particular thing if I say hey I think you're pretty do you want to make out I can make out with any woman at that party it is a female friend that told him to do this I think that's very important thanks Brooke yeah you just went there specifically to test out your move it when it was not his idea his friend is the one who was encouraging him because Joseph did not think I was saying no to a free holiday party with the open bar My friend worked at a big company like If you should be mad at anybody be mad at Joseph's friend for pressuring him to kiss you

Okay, I've crashed parties before that makes sense even we was invited. Yeah, you didn't crash it And the only lie was I worked there. That's it right you didn't lie about anything else. Did you Joseph? I should ask that no no no that was it that was it cuz Katrina You could have told me the truth no not really I Came here to try out this line Know about where you work not that part. Yes. Oh works. I guess it works. I gotta admit it works Okay, so I'm kind of curious would that line work if a girl tried it on a guy Work if a girl tried it on a guy

To actually it's gonna be finding a guy who you actually want to make out with Why are you asking that to be honest? My boss is recently single? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, So I didn't think it's a good idea Jeffrey hasn't gotten a raise in over five years Keep getting demoted listen. I don't even know the hell you guys are so don't tell me what to do You got the idea from us And maybe I should Because the whole reason that we're doing this call is because after you guys kissed He felt like you had a really great connection and wanted to take it a little bit farther and go out on a real date And we would pay for that date if you're willing to see him again. Yeah, I Mean, maybe just could be my wingman

Come on I'm pouring out my heart here. I like you. I want to get to know you. You guys had a connection. Give it a chance with Joseph. And once that burns out, then you can go after your boss. There you go. You know, I'm willing to go on a friendly date as friends. As friends? As friends. Do we cover friendly dates? We can exchange dating tricks and tips. Dude, you went from kissing this woman in the first five seconds

to now you're her friend? Absolute friend zone. Wingman. I have never been not this excited about friendship in my life. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. OK, that was the end of the original second date that they were on.

Oh, man. Now we do have to play just a quick commercial, OK? Because we do have to pay for this show somehow. And we're going to be back right after this with both of them on the phone to see what's happened since. Stay here. Kelly Harnett spent over a decade in prison for a murder she says she didn't commit. I'm 100% innocent. While behind bars, she learned the law from scratch. Because oh God, Harnett, jailhouse lawyer. And as she fought for herself, she also became a lifeline for the women locked up alongside her.

You're supposed to have faith in God, but I had nothing but faith in her. So many of these women had lived the same stories. I said, were you a victim of domestic violence? And she was like, yeah. But maybe Kelly could change the ending. I said, how many people have gotten other incarcerated individuals out of here? I'm going to be the first one to do that.

This is the story of Kelly Harnett, a woman who spent 12 years fighting not just for her own freedom, but her girlfriends too. I think I have a mission from God to save souls by getting people out of prison. not just for her own freedom, but her girlfriends too. I think I have a mission from God to save souls by getting people out of prison. The Girlfriends, Jailhouse Lawyer. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

or wherever you get your podcasts. So what happened at Chappaquiddick? Well, it really depends on who you talk to. There are many versions of what happened in 1969 when a young Ted Kennedy drove a car into a pond. And left a woman behind to drown. There's a famous headline, I think, in the New York Daily News. It's, Teddy escapes, blonde drowns.

And in a strange way, right, that sort of tells you. The story really became about Ted's political future, Ted's political hopes. Will Ted become president? Chappaquiddick is a story of a tragic death and how the Kennedy machine took control. And he's not the only Kennedy to survive a scandal. The Kennedys have lived through disgrace, affairs, violence, you name it. So is there a curse? Every week we go behind the headlines and beyond the drama of America's royal family. Listen to United States of Kennedy on the iHeart radio app,

Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. Well that call was from last Christmas and now we've got Joseph and Katrina back on the phone to give us an update. I can't believe they're both here. Yeah. Katrina, what's happened in the last, like, six to seven months since we last spoke? Well, we've actually moved in together. Wait, wait, wait. Wait, what? Wait, who? You and your, yeah.

You and Joseph or you and your boss? Me and Joseph. No, me and Joseph. You guys are together like that? Well, not like together, like together with just his friends Oh, that's why you're laughing You're laughing joseph because we assumed you guys had a romantic thing. Okay How did that happen?

Um, well actually on the date we found out that both our leases happened to be ending at the same time My roommate was moving out and so I was like dude why don't you just come live with me like we can take some money we've already got this great rapport. Joseph are you cool with this? Like yeah that must have been hard for you because the last time that we spoke you seemed interested romantically in her and Katrina was the one saying you should be friends. Well I'm not gonna lie at first it wasn easy, like especially when she was bringing guys over. Oh, I bet that was tough, man.

And just as a male, we're kinda territorial, so I couldn't help but to feel just a little bit jealous. Just a little bit jealous. Oh, no. Oh, stop. Oh, stop, she says. Oh, no. Wait, so how did you get over it? How did you get over feelings for her? Oh, well, it was her, man.

Like, her actually being the best roommate I've for her? Oh, it was her man. Like her actually being the best roommate I've ever had. Like the situation is amazing. Everything is always on point on time. She's awesome. You could say two weeks of crying Joseph. It's okay. You could say you cried for a long time. It's alright. It sounds like you two are in a good place and it's a really rare thing on this show to I'm still crying. But you will never know. Oh, buddy. It sounds like you two are in a good place, and it's a really rare thing on this show to hear, I got a friend for life out of a second date update.

Why do I want another update in six months? Yeah. I did, I did. Ooh. That's really cool. But yeah, definitely keep us posted on what's going on in your lives. That's your second date update update.

It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. The Girlfriends is back with a new season. And this time I'm telling you the story of Kelly Harnett. Kelly spent over a decade in prison for a murder she says she didn't commit. As she fought for her freedom, she taught herself the law. He goes, oh God, Harnett, jailhouse lawyer. And became a beacon of hope

for the women locked up alongside her. You're supposed to have faith in God, but I had nothing but faith in her. I think I was put here to save souls by getting people out of prison. The Girlfriends, Jailhouse Lawyer. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. So what happened at Chappaquiddick? Well, it really depends on who you talk to. There are many versions of what happened in 1969 when a young Ted Kennedy drove a car into a pond.

And left a woman behind to drown. Chappaquiddick is a story of a tragic death and how the Kennedy machine took control. Every week we go behind the headlines and beyond the drama of America's royal family. Listen to United States of Kennedy's on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up guys? Welcome to the Agustapapap podcast, the go-to spot for everything música mexicana. We're proud Mexican Americans who live and breathe this music. We started this podcast to share and discuss our views of musica Mexicana whether you like to vibe to Peso Pluma, Los Alegres del Barranco, Arel Camacho or put Ivan Cornejo when you

get any feels then this podcast is for you. Well actually Peso was supposed to be on Chinito's album. The song with Drake was supposed to be with Peso. Listen to Agus Sopa on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. If you've ever wondered what diseases medieval pee tests and cocktails have in common, you're in the right place. On our show, This Podcast Will Kill You, we explore the wild world of diseases, their history, biology, and impact today.

Vaccines are in part a victim of their own success. They have been so effective in preventing disease and death that we take them for granted. New episodes drop every Tuesday on the Exactly Right Network. Listen to this podcast will kill you on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Radhita Vlukya and I'm the host of a really good cry podcast and I have the opportunity to talk to Logan Urie. If you're out there trying to date right now, being ghosted on hinge or want to create a dating profile

that gives you a solid chance of matching with someone you actually want to go on a date with, then this episode with Hinge's Director of Relationship Science, Logan Urie, is definitely for you. Relationships do require work. Best relationships are people who really work on them together. Listen to A Really Good Cry on the iHeartRatio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.