Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - Second Date Update UPDATE: A Christmas Quarrel

Episode Date: February 23, 2017

A lot of times we do Second Date Update UPDATES to find out how couples are doing since they last came on the show... but we've never had a situation where we check in on a young pair, who Decided NOT to go on a second date! We were totally SHOCKED to see that this "non-couple" had emailed us... Listen to the podcast below to find out what happened...See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Ugh, we're so done with New Year, New You. This year, it's more you on Bumble. More of you shamelessly sending playlists, especially that one filled with show tunes. More of you finding Gemini's because you know you always like them. More of you dating with intention because you know what you want. And you know what? We love that for you. Someone else will too. Be more you this year and find them on Bumble.

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Hi, I'm Ed Zitron, host of the Better Offline podcast. And this January, we're going to go on the road to beautiful Las Vegas, Nevada, to cover the Consumer Electronics Show, tech's biggest conference. Better Offline CES coverage won't be the usual rundown of the hottest gadgets or biggest trends, but an unvarnished look at what the tech industry plans to sell or do to you in 2025.

I'll be joined by David Roth of Defector and the writer Edward Ongueso Jr. With guest appearances from Behind the Bastards Robert Evans, It Could Happen Here's Gare Davis, and a few surprise guests throughout the show. Listen to Better Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever else you get your podcasts from. You know, a lot of times we do second date update updates to find out what couples have been up to since they agreed to go out again. But rarely, actually never, have we ever done one with a pair who said they had no interest in seeing each other for a second time. Oh, that's true. Because it's hard to do an update on something that never happened.

Exactly. That is until today. We could not believe we got an email from one particular couple. We'll play the audio for you and then get the brand new update from them right afterwards in your Second Date Update update right now. Moving 92.5. Brooke and Jubal's Second Date Update

Every guy knows this feeling. Walking through the mall, just looking around, doing some shopping, grooving out to the music, maybe going to head over to PacSun and pick up some new flip-flops

for a vacation you haven't scheduled yet. Who knows, man? It's crazy. You're at the mall and then you look over there and you're like,'t scheduled yet. Who knows, man? It's crazy. You're at the mall. And then you look over there and you're like, oh, hello. Is that a lady? There's probably a lot of them at the mall.

So you go up and talk to that attractive lady. Ask her a question. Introduce yourself. Tell her she looks beautiful. She doesn't answer you. So you're like, man, she's playing hard to get. So you just keep talking. And you keep talking. And then all of a sudden, security comes and grabs you and takes you out of the store for harassing a mannequin. That happens to me on a lot of occasions.

But apparently, in today's Second Date Update, Kendra is on the phone. A guy came up and approached her in the mall. And Kendra is not a mannequin. She is a real-life female woman. Because this call would be really awkward if she was. What's up, Kendra is not a mannequin. She is a real-life female woman. Because this call would be really awkward if she was. What's up, Kendra? Hi. Yes, it's true.

I'm not a mannequin. Nice. You're not a mannequin. Yeah. So your email said that you met the dude you want to call today at the mall. Yeah. That's impressive. That is like old-school style at the mall.

Yeah, no online dating. Yeah. So I actually work at the mall. I work at a department store in the perfume section. Oh, okay. Yeah, no online dating. Yeah. So I actually work at the mall. I work at a department store in the perfume section. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. Wait, how are you meeting men in the perfume section? Well, it's sort of like a combination of perfumes and colognes. They're in the same area. Okay. I was going to say, if he's buying perfume, do not believe him that it's for his mother. Yeah. No, he came up to me and was asking me about which cologne he should buy

and what I'd recommend. And so I was giving him my thoughts on a few different ones. And he just, he was like, well, what's your favorite one? Oh, that's a line right there. That is. Yeah, oh yeah.

Anytime that I've ever hit on a woman at the mall, that's always what I do. Like, well, what shirt do you like best? Oh my God. Do you like the way these fit more? I would just take that as a sign of an indecisive person. No.

I had no idea. There's usually an ulterior motive, but they usually never pick up on it. They're like, well, I like that one. Yeah. Honestly, that one shows a little bit of your love handle, so for your body frame, I wouldn't wear it. And they're like, all right.

So he asked you what your favorite one is. Yeah, and I told him, and then he's like, great, I wouldn't wear it. And they're like, all right. So he asked you what your favorite one is. Yeah, and I told him. And then he's like, great, I'll take that one. So after I ring him up, he was like, so I was wondering, if I wear this, will you go out with me? Oh, that's kind of cute. All right. That's a good line. And that's when you called mall security.

No, I mean, I thought it was really cute. And also it's like the fact that he bought it and then asked me out. You know, it's not like he was saying, well, you know, I'm only going to buy this if you go out with me. Kind of like you already bought it, which was really cool. It would have been funny if you said no and then he returned it right there. Oh, my God. All right. So you guys agreed to go out.

When did you actually have a date? Like a few days after that. Okay. Yeah, we got dinner, and so, yeah, it was really nice, and he, you know, he wore that cologne, and he smelled really good. So, I mean, obviously you're doing a second date update, so you like the guy.

Were you pleasantly surprised, though? You'd known him for two seconds at your job when you're helping him out buy some cologne, and now you're at dinner with him. I was surprised at how awesome our chemistry was. We had a really great conversation, and I guess I was really tickled at how we kind of played with each other. You got in a tickle fight at the restaurant? Yeah, a little play fight.

That's what I heard too, Jubal. No, I mean, not physically tickling, but, you know, like, with our words, you know, just like play jokes back and forth kind of thing. So it was a light-hearted conversation. Yeah, at one point, I had gotten a little worried

because he started off saying, like, hey, you know um i know this is the first date but i think i need to come clean it out something whoa that's not good that's not a good sign yeah and i was like oh shoot like you just come out of prison or like yeah what what is this yeah so he's like i have admit something. I actually was not interested in buying cologne. I just wanted to talk to you. Oh, okay. I knew it.

It just sounded like a line to me. You were right, dude. So wait, does that mean he had been to the department store before and, like, kind of stalked you a little bit? No, I don't think so. I mean, I think it's more like he was, I don't know, passing by. Like, sometimes, like, you're walking, you know, through the entrance to get to another part. And then I guess he just saw me and then decided he wanted to talk to me. That's a compliment, right?

Yeah. When he said that to me, it was really, I don't know, flattering because he specifically, you know, played this whole act to get to talk to me and ask me out. Go back to your date. What happened? The date was going so well that we actually ended up sharing. And for me, like, this is something that's never happened before. We started talking a little bit about our future together. What?

Like, the two of you or just in general? Well, okay, so I was talking about my mom, and he was like, oh, my God, that sounds just like my mom. And then we started sharing things about our moms, and we were like, oh, my God, they're so similar. Like, they would get along so well. And then he was like, yeah, it would be kind of cool if you met my mom. What? Wow. Were you like, I mean, what was your reaction to that?

Well, to be honest, it actually didn't feel weird. It actually felt natural. What? It just felt comfortable between the two of us. That's the one thing that I could think of. Like, maybe he got spooked because we were already talking about his future, and he already mentioned, like, meeting his mom. But the thing is, didn't bring that up you know what i mean like that was his thing he he's the one who brought it up so he scared himself yeah yeah i guess scared himself so

maybe he read the situation differently than you like you're like oh this feels normal and to him it might have felt awkward yeah i mean that's the only thing that I can possibly think about. How did everything end? He walked me back to my car and like he just kind of stood there and I thought he was going to kiss me. So, you know, I was trying to be open, you know, ready to receive. How did that happen? You just stand there with like your legs and your arms open, like kind of like a gingerbread man, like in case this happens, I want you to know my body language. I am wide open for it. You sometimes have to be that direct with men. No, I mean, I was just ready for him to make a move.

But then he just gave me a really big hug. And then he said, call me. I don't think that's bad, though. I mean, some guys, either maybe he missed his moment, he felt like, or he doesn't kiss on the first date. Not all guys do. Well, I mean, that's what I was thinking at first, but it's been two weeks now, and he hasn't responded to any of my texts.

I really want this to work out for you. Yeah. Okay, well, we'll play a song. Come back, call him, and get your second date update, all right? Okay. Moving 92.5. Brooke and Jubal in the morning. Second date update.

If you're just joining us for today's second date update, Kendra is on the phone, and today she wants to call a guy named Ryan, who is not calling her back. And she really liked Ryan, mostly because they have the same mom. No. No, that is not true. Yeah, that's what she said. They have the same mom, and so she really liked him, and they bonded. They went out to dinner and bonded at dinner talking about their mothers

because she was like, my mom's like this. She's a crazy lady. And he was like, my mom's exactly the same way. She's a crazy lady too. We should totally have our moms meet. And I guess they had a really in-depth conversation about their families and future and all that stuff, but that's the reason she thinks she might not be getting a call back from Ryan is because

maybe he took it the other way and it seemed like a little too much too soon on their first date. Kendra, are you ready to call your kind of brother? I'm ready to call Ryan. Oh my God. Well, I'm going to dial his phone number right now, see if we can get him on the phone and find out why he doesn't want to see you again, okay? Okay. Gosh, that sounds mean like that. why he doesn't want to see you again, okay? Yeah.

Gosh, that sounds mean like that. Why he doesn't want to call you back. All right, here we go. Hello? Hi, can I speak to Ryan, please? This is him. Hey, what's up, Ryan? How are you?

This is Jubal from Brook and Jubal in the Morning. It's a radio show? Uh, okay. I didn't, I don't think I entered to win anything. Is this what this is about? You didn't enter to win anything, no. We do a segment on our show called The Second Date Update. Have you ever heard of that before? No, I haven't. Alright, it's where if you go out on a date with somebody and then end up not calling them back after, they email us to see if we can get you on the phone and find out why.

That's kind of strange. Yeah, and the girl that emailed us about you is named Kendra. Oh, she emailed you? Yeah, she emailed us because she said that she had a really good time with you, but you haven't responded to anything, so she asked us to get you on the phone and see if we could figure out why you don't want to go out with her again. Yeah, I don't really want to talk about it.

Wait, so there's a reason? Well, yeah, there's a reason. I mean, I'm not just some kind of a**hole who blows people off for no reason. Like, if I'd liked her, I would have called her back. Yeah, and that's why she's confused, because she thought you liked her. I'm sorry, that just wasn't the case. What? I thought you liked her. I mean, the way she described it, it sounds like you were super into her. I mean, I thought I liked her at the start,

but by the end of the date, I was definitely questioning that. So what changed then? I really don't want to talk about it. Isn't this enough? Haven't I told you enough? No, actually. I've actually piqued our interest more. Because you said there's a problem, but now we don't know what it is. Here's the thing.

She wants to know. She's been racking her brain. She's been thinking about you nonstop. I really... She sounds like a really nice person. Can you at least just do her the favor? If she really wants to know, you can just tell her that it was when we started talking about our families. She'll know what that means.

Honestly, I don't think she will because when we talked to her, she said that when you guys started talking about your moms and your families, that was when you both perked up and thought everything was even better. No, no, that's when things really took a turn. What are you talking about? That was not. What? Okay, she said that you were like, our moms should meet.

Yeah, at that point I thought everything was going really well. But then she got a little rude about the family thing. It just, she took it a little too far. Did she, like, rip on your mom? No, no. Basically, we were talking about family, and we got talking about the holidays and she sort of made a joke. She said, well, you know, if things work out between us, you're going to spend the holidays

at my place. And so I tried to joke back, basically saying, oh, well, next year we'll start at my place. You know, that like an every other year sort of thing. Yeah. That's actually kind of cute, right? Yeah. It was sort of a cutesy little joke. But all of a sudden she got really serious about it.

What do you mean she got serious about it? Well, she refused to even acknowledge this joke and was like, well, no, we're spending it in my place every year for nothing at all. And then I was like, no, we can switch off every other year. That's the normal way to do things. So now you're having an argument that people usually have, I don't know, a couple years into a relationship on a first date. Exactly. I mean, she gets so defensive about it. She's like, I have a huge family and I never miss Christmas.

And so you're going to have to compromise and come to my Christmas every single year. Oh, that's not a compromise. I kind of get her. Like, one of the reasons I love my husband and knew it would work out is because his family does solstice. They don't even do Christmas. So I'm like, I own it. Yeah.

Well, unfortunately, my family doesn't do a solstice or anything. So I would be missing my family's Christmas to go to her family every year. It was unreasonable. I mean, you don't think that there's maybe a way you could come to a conclusion later on down the road? No, not at all. There's no reasoning with Kendra. There's no reasoning with her. She's basically squatting on Christmas and saying, this is my day.

It's not yours. It's mine for the rest of time. It was absurd. Taking away Christmas. You guys are kind of cute still together to me. Is that bad? Hey, Ryan, I want to let you know that Kendra is actually on the phone listening right now and wants to talk to you. No, she's not.

Yes, she is. Kendra, say hi if you're still there. Hi, Ryan. Wow. Oh, my God. Yeah. What, this whole thing with the setup? Kind of, yeah.

Look, Ryan, I told you that Christmas is really important to me. Okay? Yeah, I remember you saying that and I just thought it was ridiculous. Well, okay, well if it's ridiculous that means that Christmas is not important to you, which means you can spend it at my place. Oh, that's a pretty good point. No, of course Christmas is important to me. That was not even what you were saying

on this date, though. You were saying that Christmas was more important to you than it would ever be to me. So I never said that. I never said that. You're putting words in my mouth. No, that is essentially what you were saying to me, Kendra. No, I told you. I have a big family.

I have never missed Christmas once in my life, okay? And this is the only time I get to see some of my relatives, and just because I start dating someone, that doesn't mean that, like, suddenly I'm going to start missing Christmas. You guys have been on one date. What are you doing? You think I don't have a family, too?

No, I know you have a family. We talked about this. Your family can come to my place and spend Christmas with my family, but it's going to be at my house. You already know my family lives far away. It's not even easy for them to get together for Christmas with my own family, let alone your family. Okay, well, you know what? Like, I mean, some of them are already coming from different parts of the country,

so they might as well just come over here and all be together. That's absurd. Oh, my God. What is happening right now? No, it's not absurd. I'm telling you, your family can come to my place. It'll be great. But, like, that's it.

Like, we can compromise in that you'll get to see your family, you'll get to have Christmas, but it's going to be at my place. You're being so selfish. It's no wonder that you don't have a boyfriend, okay? Oh, wow. Well, look who's talking, mister. I don't have a girlfriend yet. That's true.

You got some common ground there. You guys are both single, at least. I will say, Kendra, I mean, isn't there like a way, like maybe you guys could do Christmas Eve at his place, Christmas morning at your place? There is no compromising on this. I get all of Christmas, including Christmas Eve and Christmas morning and afternoon. You get all the other holidays, like, all of them.

I don't care, but I have Christmas. Oh, what? I get Arbor Day? What, Flag Day? Like, no one even celebrates those holidays. So, I mean, like, You could do those days if you wanted to, but I mean like 4th of July, come on, like fireworks and... So Christmas is the only important

holiday of those. Well fine, but Christmas is the only important one to me. So you get an important one, I get an important one. Do you guys realize that this is all a hypothetical conversation because you've only been on one date? It's not hypothetical. This is real.

Yeah. I mean, I promise you, if you just one Christmas, just try it out and come to my place, you will understand what I'm talking about. You're going to love it. I mean, your family will love it because it's amazing. I can't even describe. You'll just fall in love with it, and then you won't even want to have Christmas any other place. Yeah, that's exactly what you do, isn't it?

What do you mean? That's exactly what you want. You reel me in for one Christmas, and then I'm stuck there for the rest of my damn life. No. No, I'm not reeling. Okay, I'm reeling you into the first one. I don't care how good the presents are.

You would decide on your own all the other Christmas. You would want to come to my place. You guys have to go out again. Yeah. I mean, you're dating. You're dating already. You realize that, right? I think you guys are married.

Actually, you don't know it, but you've only been on one date. Ryan, would you like to go out on one more date with Kendra? You guys can have a discussion about this in private if you want. We will pay for a second date. Will you go out with Kendra again? Please. It doesn't even sound like Kendra wants to go out with me. No, I mean, I like you.

I think you're great. I just, we have this disagreement. And if we could just work this one issue out, then I think this relationship could possibly work. Okay, so she is open to going out with you again, Ryan. Would you do it? We will pay for a second date. I would consider it, and I will try to look past all the mean things she's just said.

Only if she will consider spending Christmas one time at my family's place. Oh, that's a good deal, Kendra. Just once, man. Absolutely not. Never happening. Are you serious? Oh, my God. That was a pretty good deal.

Really, though? So that's a no, Kendra. You don't want to go out with Ryan again because he wants to spend maybe one Christmas with his family. That is a capital N, capital O. Dude, but what if you fell in love with him and you guys started having your own Christmases at some point together? No, no.

I will always be spending Christmas with my family. Ryan, you and your stupid family can go have your little Christmas together, but I'm not going on a second date with you. Sorry. Are you kidding me? Well, I think that's enough for the second date update. I don't know what happened, but I think it was a second date update.

Yeah, it was close. I'm not sure. Close. I feel like I was listening to a married couple argue, but Kendra, sorry you didn't get a second date, but at least. No, I don't care anymore. Okay. Cool. Well, one thing this second date update has taught me is I'm even more thankful now than ever before that I don't talk to my family very much.

It's not a question. It's giving me a lot of arguments. Broken Jubal in the morning. You just heard a very contentious second date update from last year with Kendra and Ryan. Yes. And believe it or not,

they're actually on the phone with us again. Hey! Kendra and Ryan, how are you guys? Doing well. Good. All right. Sounds friendlier. Yeah, it sounds a lot friendlier.

I need to be honest. When our producer said that you had emailed the show with an update, I thought they were joking. I was like, what's the update? They're still not talking and they still hate each other? But apparently you two had some news that you wanted to share with us. Are you guys together? Yeah. Believe it or not.

How? Things ended so rough. Yeah. Believe it or not. How? Things ended so rough. Yeah. Yeah. No, seriously, actually, after that, I did not have any intention of seeing him again. I was so angry. Really? I couldn't have picked that up on the phone call at all that you were angry.

She hid it well. Yeah. To be honest, I did not see us really having a future either. Who reached out to who, though? I did, actually. Really? You did? Yeah.

Would you just text him a middle finger and then you guys started talking again? Oh, no. So, okay, like, when you guys played it on the radio,

a lot of my friends and family heard it, and they gave me a really hard time. were just like i don't know what you're doing you guys have incredible chemistry and you can't agree on one thing christmas and basically they're just like you made a major mistake and even my grandma was like even my grandma was like if you don't marry him, I will. Yeah, because he was really willing to compromise a lot. Yeah, so I reached out to him, and I texted him,

so are your friends and family giving you a hard time too? And of course I said yes. And then I told him what my grandma said, and then I was like, so do you want to get a drink and laugh about this together? I would have thought you were setting me up if I were him. Honestly, it became something that we could talk about. Just the call and how much we were bothered by our friends and family about it. And I think we realized what my friends and family had seen and what I saw before Christmas was mentioned, which was that, yeah, we are pretty amazing together and we're really great.

Well, what's the new Christmas custody plan? What have you decided on? Oh, boy. Well, basically what we decided was that it would be a coin toss, you know, 50-50. We both have even chances every year of having it at our family's place. That's hilarious. All right. And who's going to be doing the coin toss?

I am. I'm going to be the one who gets it. That's what I figured. Check it. It could be one of those fake ones with two sides. Double-headed coin. Oh, look, it's heads again. My family again.

Yeah, we have yet to agree upon who's going to toss the coin. I'm pretty sure you said that I could. Uh-oh. Here we go. Hey, look, we don't have time to get into all of this with you guys. We'll let you hash that out on your own. But congratulations for being able to, I guess, find love. Yeah, it was weird.

Yeah, well, thanks to her grandma, honestly. Yeah, it was weird. Yeah, well, thanks to her grandma, honestly. Yeah, seriously. And, you know, we do some of these second date update updates with people who are like, we hear from them later that they're married and stuff like that. I think you two actually have a chance out of all those people at going the distance because you're already like 50 years married at this point the way you are here. Yeah, I don't know whether that's a compliment or, but I'll take it as one. It's a compliment, yeah.

Moving 92.5. Ugh, we're so done with New Year, New You. This year, it's more you on Bumble. More of you shamelessly sending playlists, especially that one filled with show tunes. More of you finding Gemini's because you know you always like them. More of you dating with intention because you know what you want. And you know what? We love that for you.

Someone else will, too. Be more you this year and find them on Bumble. Joel, the holidays are a blast, but the financial hangover, that can be a huge bummer. If you are out there and you're dreading the new statement email that reveals the massive balance that you may have racked up, well, you could use our help. That's right. I'm Joel. And I am Matt. And we're from the How To Money podcast.

Our show is all about helping you make sense of your personal finances so you can ditch your pesky credit card debt once and for all, make real progress on other crucial financial goals that you've got, and just feel more in control of your money in general. You know it. For money advice without the judgment and jargon, listen to How to Money on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Ed Zitron, host of the Better Offline podcast. And this January,

we're going to go on the road to beautiful Las Vegas, Nevada, to cover the Consumer Electronics Show, tech's biggest conference. Better Offline CES coverage won't be the usual rundown of the hottest gadgets or biggest trends, but an unvarnished look at what the tech industry plans to sell or do to you in 2025. I'll be joined by David Roth at Defector and the writer Edward Ongueso Jr. With guest appearances from Behind the Bastards, Robert Evans, It Could Happen Here's Gare Davis, and a few surprise guests throughout the show. Listen to Better Offline on the iHeartRadio app,

Apple Podcasts, or wherever else you get your podcasts from.