Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - Second Date Update UPDATE: Friendly Favor or Salmon Scam
Episode Date: May 9, 2024Sometimes in order to jumpstart a romance you need to do a little gentle sabotaging... The couple on the phone were on our show a few months ago and now they're back to tell us everything that's happe...ned since in your Second Date Update!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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podcasts second date update alexis let me ask you and just be honest here have you ever gone out
with a guy just to get something out of him for free oh like a meal or a coffee duh yeah okay
sorry i didn't I didn't mean
every single time
you've ever spoken to a guy. I just meant like once
or twice, but sure for you, Alexis,
you didn't think anything of that. You feel like
they deserved to pay for your steak
dinner and the 14 white
claws just to enjoy the privilege of being
next to you. I am fun company, correct.
That all checks out.
Think about the guy. What is he left with?
A fun night next to me.
That's what dating is, Jeff. It's a large
credit card bill, too.
With nothing to show for it. But one of our
listeners, John, says he feels like he
may have been used when he went out
with a woman the other night. And we're going to try and
help him out. What does he expect?
I mean, okay. Alright.
John, you're getting no sympathy from Brooke
today. I'm sorry.
What do you want in return there, John?
Why don't you actually hand over your credit card
information to us now before we get started, okay?
Yeah, you know, relationship.
You can't guarantee that. Be more fun.
Brooke, can you not judge him? He hasn't even gotten to say
hello to us. John, what's up, man?
John? You scared him away. You're allowed to talk now, bro. It's just like, come on. John, what's up, man? John? You scared him away.
You're allowed to talk now, bro.
Hey, I'm here.
I don't know.
I feel like maybe I've been used, so.
Used for what?
What were you used for?
All right, let me back it up.
Yeah, why don't you start from the beginning.
Tell us about this woman that you met, how you met her, what her name is, and then lead us into the story.
If you say Alexis, I swear to God.
No one will be shocked.
Change my name. What's her name?
No, you're safe. Her name, I guess
her identity is probably safe if I just go
with the first name, right? Nikki.
We have to call her.
We gotta call her, bro. That's how this segment works.
Okay, her name is Nikki, and how'd you meet her?
Okay, you know, I met her online.
Okay.
Okay.
And was there any red flags, seeing that you think you got used?
I mean, she was cool at first.
She's cute.
She's not, like, strangely hot, where, you know.
She doesn't look like a bot, is what you're saying.
Yeah, exactly.
Okay.
So, we were having trouble getting together, because I have a bad schedule. Okay. We were having trouble getting together
because I have a bad schedule.
We're in a casino.
I'm in the surveillance room.
So you have a crazy schedule.
Yeah, it's a problem.
It's funny that a guy who works in
surveillance thinks he may have gotten scammed.
It is ironic, isn't it?
Yeah.
Your schedule must be hard to find a good time to go out with somebody that you really like.
What did you end up doing with Nikki?
So, it was cool.
She goes, all right, you come over.
I'll make you a nice dinner before you go to work.
Oh.
That's sweet.
What?
Are you complaining about being scammed about this?
Yeah, bro.
This sounds awesome.
She sounds amazing.
And she trusts you, right?
Yeah.
Like, because she's inviting you to your place before she's even met you.
Exactly.
I thought that was cool.
I'm not a criminal-looking guy, so...
I don't think it's looks on that one.
Yeah, there's a lot of good-looking guys that also you can't trust.
But yeah, sure.
So she invites you over.
She opens the door.
She tells you, here, put your wallet over here.
And then you're trained.
Yeah, we're not so blatant.
It was like salmon and wine.
Oh, man.
That's classy.
And it was awesome. Nothing is moving too fast.
We're just having a nice dinner. It was a first
step. It's cool. Right. Well, you have to go to work
later, so it's not even like you can have a drink or
two. You know, it's like
nothing's going to happen during that date.
Right, right. Okay, so we're there, and then she have a drink or two you know it's like nothing's gonna happen during that date right right but okay
so we're there and then she mentions the fact that her bathroom sink is dripping a lot and she's like
she did the thing where it was like she mentioned it like twice and stopped oh she keeps bringing
up that darn sink oh that's funny right okay it the sink. Right. Okay. It was like enough
of a prompt
where I was like,
you want me to look at it?
She did.
And I'm like, yeah, cool.
I was happy.
Honestly, I was like, cool.
Okay, are you a handy guy?
Did she know that about you?
Yeah.
So I think that's like
maybe why she didn't
mention it
because I mentioned
that I renovated my place.
Oh.
Okay.
I see where the using, I think, is going to my place. Oh. Okay.
I see where the using, I think, is going to come into play here.
But it may not be using still.
She may still be into you and be like, look, while you're here, I don't go on a lot of dates.
Yeah.
Just look for me.
Yeah, right. Okay.
So did you go look at the sink?
Yeah, I did.
And I fixed it in like 10 minutes.
Oh, that's cool.
All right.
It wasn't anything major.
How did the date end?
Did you just like fix the sink and you're like, all right, well, work's here, done.
No, I mean, it ended like I thought we were totally vibing.
Got the hug, got a kiss, but it was like a restrained kiss.
You know, I kind of initiated it.
First kisses can be a little awkward.
So she cooked you a meal.
She gave you a kiss.
You fixed her sink in like 10 minutes and
you feel like that was the scam i mean i'm wondering i can't help but wonder because
i thought the date was good you know i texted her i texted her again okay so she's not responding
exactly yeah but what like maybe she just doesn't like you. It doesn't
mean that she's using you for the secret.
I'm a skimmy guy. I want to give you a to-do list
of things to do.
That was quick. Now you have time to go
write the leaves. It makes it sound like
you didn't want to do it as a favor.
It just sounds like a friendly favor thing
to do. You expected something in return?
It's not
like I expected to do something in return? No, I mean, I do. It's not like I expected to do something
in return, but it comes down to this, right?
If she already knew
that she's not into me,
don't ask me to fix your sink.
And don't kiss me.
She doesn't want to waste her night.
She wouldn't have cooked you a full dinner if she already
knew that. That's a good point.
You know, like, she wouldn't have.
I mean, if that's what a scam is, I hope that somebody scams me today.
I am open for a scam. I got you
so good with that five-course meal.
Let's find out once and for all.
Maybe there is a nugget of truth to this.
We're going to call Nikki for you and try and get you
a second date update right after this, okay?
Alright, cool. Alright, man, hold on.
Second date update.
You're in the middle of a second date update update, and we're
going to find out how the couple is doing right after you hear part two.
To be scammed or not to be scammed?
That is the question, because one of our listeners, Noble John,
foundeth himself at the apartment of the beautiful and fair Nikki.
Ah.
And during their dining date, she exclaimeth,
O thou noblest of Johns,
my sinketh doth
leaketh.
Can you fix it, perchance?
Which he did. Yeah, that was nice of him.
It was very nice of him.
Took him all of ten minutes. Yep. And then he went
on his way to work because he does the night
shift over at the casino inside the
surveillance room. Has not heard from heard from Nikki though in eight days.
Yeah.
Why don't you guys applauding the performance that I had the Shakespearean
halfway.
Yeah.
I only had a small role in it.
Anyway,
uh,
John feels like maybe Nikki took advantage of his handyman skills and had
planned on using him for free plumbing work the entire time.
But it's not free, John.
She paid for the salmon.
That's expensive.
We don't know that she paid for that salmon.
Oh, you think she used a fisherman to get her?
It could have been.
She's just using men all over town.
At that point, good on her.
That's impressive.
Time is money.
She cooked the salmon.
That is true.
She put in effort for this.
You didn't text her anything like,
hey, are you using me?
Or anything like that?
No, I'm not texting her accusations
and stuff.
I'm just like, hey.
It's okay. We don't have to read all the text
that you sent to her, but you've tried to reach out
and she's not responding back.
That's enough for us to give her a call. Yeah.
Let's find out once and for all whether or not
she's a scammer. Here we go. I don't think
she's a scammer. If you're going to do something nice
for someone, then you shouldn't expect anything
in return. That's the nice part.
Do you see what I'm saying, Jeff? Don't do
nice things for other people.
That's okay. Let's just call.
That's the nice thing we're going to do for John today.
Maybe, John, you can get us back when we're done, all right?
Here we go. I'm dialing it right now.
We can fix our sinks.
Hello?
Hey, is this Nikki?
Yes, it is.
Hey, Nikki, I apologize for the weird call that we're
pushing you into here but um you're on the radio right now oh hey Nikki uh did I win something
well I mean you could at the end of this free salmon not at this moment um what we're doing
is something called a second date update. And that's a segment where we
try and help out listeners who've gone out with
someone and they're not getting a call back afterwards
to help them figure out why.
Who did you say you were again?
It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning is the name of the show.
That's not what she asked. She asked who I was.
She meant who are you
in the room, Jeffrey? No, she meant me.
I'm Jeff and I would like to ask you about a date you went on eight days ago with a guy named John.
Did you say John?
John.
That you cooked him dinner?
You cooked him a lovely salmon dinner, he said?
Yeah, I did.
I did.
I went on a date with John.
Right.
We heard that you made him dinner, and you guys hung out right before he had to go to his work
His like night shift
He says that you haven't responded to any of his texts
In the last eight days
And I'm just going to be honest
He says he feels like he was used by you
Or scammed even
Wait, if he thinks he's being scammed
I mean, he's not
I think I was the one being scammed
Oh, that's a statement I think I was the one being scammed. Oh.
No way.
That's a statement I didn't expect to hear from you.
Wait, you think you're being scammed by him?
Yeah.
I don't understand.
We know that he fixed your sink.
That's what he thinks he was being used for.
He feels like you knew that he's good at being, like, a handy guy, and so you invited him over just for that.
What?
No. And also, like, he just for that. What? No.
And also like,
he thinks he fixed my thing,
but I tried it out and it was fine.
And then we were ending the day and he goes to leave.
And then he's like,
Oh,
can I go to the bathroom real fast?
And I was like,
okay.
And then later on that night,
I go to the bathroom and the thing's like broken.
Like the hot water isn't turning on.
What?
Oh no. Oh, no.
I mean, the weird part about it was that later on he started texting me like,
hey, if you have any other problems, like I'm totally there for you.
I'll come around and fix it.
That's nice, though.
Yeah, but why would she have more problems?
It's like I think she's saying he's using it as an excuse.
It's like the classic like girl leaves,'s using it as an excuse it's like the classic like
girl leaves you know coat at said man's house like he breaks her sink so that right is that
what you're thinking nikki yeah he like fixed it and then he purposely unfixed it to invite
himself back into my house oh man that's brilliant the oldest plumber trick in the book
i don't know if that's true though it. I mean, it's kind of a stretch.
He thinks that you're scamming him.
You think that he's scamming you.
Maybe it means you're meant for each other.
Two scam artists on the one date.
Why do they scam each other?
We're not scam artists.
I never scammed him.
I invited him over for dinner.
Yeah, totally.
I'm on your side.
Well, let's find out for sure, because we do have John on the other line who's been listening to this entire conversation secretly.
Oh, what?
No.
Oh, no.
Another scam.
But don't you want to know, John?
Yeah.
Hey, guys.
I'm here.
What's going on with the sink, dude?
That's a big accusation that she laid down there, John.
Did you mess with the sink before you left?
I mean, hold on, hold i mean hold on hold on dude that's hesitation a little light cute sabotage
i knew it i knew i knew that that was the case and you left me there with no hot water like
you made my life worse by doing it. She had to wash her hands in cold water. Could you imagine?
Hey, if you would have invited me back the next day,
it would have been sick.
Oh, God. That's ridiculous, bro.
It's kind of romantic when you put it that way.
Is there like a string of women out there
with plumbing issues because of you?
No.
Usually it's the thermostat.
Oh.
No.
No, I'm joking.
Look.
Okay.
It's really hard to believe you, John.
It's a good joke.
Maybe, Nikki, does that make you feel special that out of all the women he's dated, you're the only person in sync that he has sabotaged?
He wants to come back that badly.
Cute sabotage.
Very cute sabotage.
I mean, he's breaking things instead of fixing them.
And I had to call my neighbor and, like, inconvenience people because of him.
Oh, no.
Now other people are involved.
Oh, man, John.
Nikki, you don't have to call your neighbor.
I live close.
Oh, John.
John, do you not feel bad?
No, I don't feel bad.
I fixed the main problem.
You don't have a leak anymore.
It was just turning a knot. I feel bad. I fixed the main problem. You don't have a leak anymore.
It was just turning a knob.
I mean, would you blame a woman for purposely leaving something at a guy's house?
Would you call her a bad person for doing that?
I mean, if she called the radio station and accused the guy of using her first, I would call her kind of a crappy person.
Yeah, I would.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Everybody's, like, painting me as a bad guy suddenly.
You did turn off her hot water. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, hold on. Everybody's, like, painting me as a bad guy suddenly. You did turn off her hot water.
Yes.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, just barely.
So, Nicky, I mean, it's really up to you.
Could you find it in your heart to forgive him for just doing a little cute sabotage because he really wanted to see you that badly one more time?
Yeah.
Could you see that and maybe give him one more chance?
He is kind of funny. He is kind of funny.
He is kind of funny.
We did have a good time.
What?
This is crazy.
Come on, Nikki.
Maybe it looks in a certain light that I did something less than above board,
but come on.
That's it?
Yeah, come on. Wow. That's it? He said wow. Yeah, maybe, come on.
Nikki, how can you say no to this romantic?
You know what?
Life's too short.
Let's do it.
Oh, my God.
What?
You made the right choice.
She wants a little extra punishment in her life.
Good for you, you two.
Don't invite him back to your house or ever let him look on your car.
Did he just scam us for a date?
Yes.
Yes, he did.
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Well, it took some convincing.
Oh, my goodness.
But we got Nikki to agree to give John one more chance.
And now, look what happened.
Months later, here we are doing an update update with the cute saboteurs themselves.
I know.
I want to know who's scamming who this time.
Yeah.
Welcome back to the show, guys. guys hey how are you guys we're doing okay the question is how are you guys doing yeah are you both on the phone yeah oh there's john okay don't stay quiet he
sounds scared john are you guys dating what's going on yeah so um after we talked on the phone and you all told me to give him a second chance
something really funny ended up happening okay what happened okay so he got tickets to a show
he picked me up and it was awesome like we had a great time oh that's a good review, John. Good job, man. Yeah, you know, I get results. I get results.
Okay.
That's John's guarantee.
Okay.
All of a sudden, when we got back to my place, I'm, like, doing the dishes and stuff, and
then my garbage disposal decides to just break down.
Oh, John.
No way.
Did you break something else?
No, no, no, no.
That had nothing to do with me.
Oh. And moreover, I to do with me. Oh.
And moreover, I came and fixed it.
Oh, you're a hero.
Sounds like you knew exactly what was wrong with him.
But I'm like, every single time that something breaks down now, you know, I'm always going
to be wondering if he totally did that so he could come over.
I mean, if you're dating, I think you can hang out whenever he just wants.
I don't want to do that.
So now that's like the running joke
between you guys that if anything ever breaks down.
I'm always on your cloud.
I'm going to start running out of appliances.
Your tire goes flat on the freeway
like Jonathan.
My brakes went out again.
My airbags didn't deploy.
Sounds like you guys are doing good, though.
That's great, guys.
You guys are happy?
Yeah, we're still dating, and it's been going great.
Well, keep us updated on your budding relationship
if your phone doesn't break down because Jonathan sabotaged it.
It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning brooke and jeffrey in the morning
we're so done with new year new you this year it's more you on bumble more of you
shamelessly sending playlists especially that one filled with show tunes more of you finding
gemini's because you know you always like them. More of you dating with intention because you know what you want.
And you know what?
We love that for you.
Someone else will, too.
Be more you this year and find them on Bumble.
Jon Stewart is back in the host chair at The Daily Show,
which means he's also back in our ears on The Daily Show Ears Edition podcast.
Join late-night legend Jon Stewart and
the best news team for today's biggest headlines, exclusive extended interviews, and more. Now this
is a second term we can all get behind. Listen to The Daily Show, Ears Edition on the iHeartRadio
app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You don't need another podcast. You've got too many already. But if
you're looking for one that actually changes something, a way to take control of the chaos
and find meaning, well, then maybe the one you feed is for you. I'm Eric Zimmer, and I bring
real conversations with real people to help you feed the best part of yourself. No hype, no fluff, just wisdom that works.
Listen to The One You Feed on the iHeartRadio app,
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