Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - Second Date Update UPDATE: We Built This Thing Together

Episode Date: February 27, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Ugh, we're so done with New Year, New You. This year, it's more you on Bumble. More of you shamelessly sending playlists, especially that one filled with show tunes. More of you finding Geminis because you know you always like them. More of you dating with intention because you know what you want. And you know what? We love that for you. Someone else will too.
Starting point is 00:00:23 Be more you this year and We love that for you. Someone else will too. Be more you this year. And find them on Bumble. I'm Kristin Davis, host of the podcast Are You a Charlotte? The incredible Cynthia Nixon joins me this week for a conversation filled with memories and stories I didn't even know. Cynthia could have been Carrie? When I first read the script, they asked me to read for Carrie, as I think they asked you to read for Carrie.
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Starting point is 00:02:29 Yeah! So today we get a check in with one of our iconic second date update couples. And you're gonna hear that in just a second. But first, I gotta say thank you to Matthew who wrote us on our second date Spotify page. And it says, here's why I got a second date update hoodie. Oh, reasoning. One.
Starting point is 00:02:44 He's got bullet points. I like like it one great conversation starter. Oh All right to look sick. Okay does and three it goes to a cause I mean honestly, they're so cool right now and 100% of proceeds like we said from every sale Go to help LA wildfire relief efforts thanks to Convoy of Hope. So again if you want to buy second date update merch the link is in our show notes right Alexis? Putting it there right now. Okay perfect and thank you enjoy your update update it starts right now. Second date update. Sometimes in the dating world you realize the ideal
Starting point is 00:03:23 person that you have built up in your mind Yeah, isn't necessarily the ideal person for you in real life. Oh, yes Rip that right out of Brooks wedding vows to her That could be the case for our listener Rob today Who says he met a different type of woman than the one he would normally go for. And he described her in the email as someone who doesn't drink, doesn't smoke, is 100% vegan, and must be in bed every night by 8.45pm. Dang!
Starting point is 00:03:59 As a disciplined woman. How did you let this party animal slip through your fingers? Yeah, I don't know I just found it endearing I thought she was kind of wholesome and Not really in the type of girl that I would normally go for but it's interesting because it could be wholesome Or it could be that she's done all those things so much that she can't do them anymore Okay, well what's her name? Her name's Maggie. Alright, how'd you meet her?
Starting point is 00:04:30 We met online, but I just thought her pictures were so natural, she was very naturally beautiful. Aw, that's sweet. The pictures weren't photoshopped and she wasn't out at the club. It was just kind of pictures of her hanging out with her friends, and I just thought it was nice.
Starting point is 00:04:44 So, or it was nice Are you any of the things she is like dry you know no smoking vegan No, not at all could be an opposites attract sort of situation where you like mesh together over time. You can smoke cigars and eat bacon. I mean, it could be the reason she's not calling him back. Not to like rush to judge. Well, what'd you guys do when you guys went out? Well, it was weird. We went on two dates back to back over weekend. Well, that makes sense,
Starting point is 00:05:16 because she has to be in bed by 8.45, so there's not very much time for that first one. Wait, how did that work? Well, so she doesn't like to drink, so we got ramen. Mmm. And then we went and got ice cream. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:28 You took the vegan to ice cream? Well, I learned that they actually have vegan ice cream. Oh, no, Jeff. Oh, cool. So you checked it. So you checked it. I mean, ew to me, but for her, that's great. Yeah, like coconut milk ice cream.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Yeah, yeah. Sounds great. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and it actually tasted pretty good. She was probably impressed that you, like, put some effort in to find a place that could fit her. So how did date number one end? So there was no kiss at the end, but there was like a long hug. She actually suggested that we go out again the next day. Oh wow. No kidding. So what'd you do the next day so the next day
Starting point is 00:06:06 I was like you get to pick where we want to go so we went to a vegan restaurant cool Okay, oh my god. I'm not vegan, but one of my favorite places to eat is a vegan restaurant Scary like I'm a foodie and even someone going to go to a vegan restaurant It's kind of intimidating well, maybe it's like the ice cream shop where they have the one vegan option For the meat eaters A vegan restaurant. It's kind of intimidating. Well, maybe it's like the ice cream shop where they have the one vegan option How was it I mean it was okay, I didn't mind it, okay How is it connection between you two I mean After that day, we definitely kissed. Okay., your first two dates sound like they went great So what's happened since then well so then after the date she starts texting me
Starting point is 00:06:54 And like it's text like I can't wait to see you. There's a lot of love gifts and memes about love and she was really accentuating the love aspect of everything and uh You know, it's a little bit much. I don't get why he's on with us if it was freaking you out She now not calling you back Yeah, well what happened was she sent me a spotify song. It's a song by starship called we built this thing together I don't know if you guys know that song Yeah, we built this thing together I don't know if you guys know that song yeah we built this drink together nothing lasts forever nothing's gonna stop us right yeah the old guy in the room
Starting point is 00:07:35 that's a good song everyone knows that song is she trying to like force a couple song already? that usually happens more organically yeah like what have we built? We were on two dates. Yeah. Wait, did you say that to her?
Starting point is 00:07:50 Well, I said, oh, that's a nice song. I'm not really into the song, though. I'm not really a big fan of it. And that totally changed things for her. Yeah, you slammed her taste in music. No, she was trying to convey something. It's like when I used to make mix CDs and like put in
Starting point is 00:08:06 secret songs for different dudes I liked and be like, yeah, I know that one hit. You basically turned her down by not liking the song. Which is good honestly, maybe she needed to get pushed back to reality a little. But you said that changed things between you two. Yeah, I mean I wasn't trying to put her down, I was just a little confused by it Yeah, okay So what do you want our help with do you want another date or do you not? Yeah, I just want to see where she's at and I hope I didn't offend her and I just want you to check for me I see Maybe if she knows how you feel she can lay off the love gifts and the song
Starting point is 00:08:40 Yeah, yeah, I don't know how to tell her that politely if she is that kind of person I don't necessarily want to change her, you know? Okay. We'll let Brooke tell her to cut that crap out. We'll do the second date update for you right after this. Second date update. You're in the middle of a second date update update, and we're going to find out how the couple is doing right after you hear part two. Man, we're back to the 1980s again. Is this a song? The decade of love. Wow, is that what it was?
Starting point is 00:09:09 16 candles, dirty dancing. Wow. Ghost, all the best love movies. Okay. I can honestly say that we built this thing together. Nothing lasts forever. Why do we have to- I think that's Amy's reference.
Starting point is 00:09:24 Nothing's gonna stop us now. Yeah, that stop us now. Unless Maggie doesn't answer the phone, then that would kind of stop us and we'd be screwed. Are you all forgetting it's a song that she sent to him? It's from the 80s though? Yes, this is the song from the 1980s that kind of soured the relationship after Rob went on back-to-back dates with Maggie both of which went great, but this Spotify song Ruined it because Rob said I'm not really a fan. Yeah It's pretty cheesy, but Brooke had a good point. He was trying to say I don't really like this song Maybe Maggie took it as he doesn't like my love. He's rejecting our relationship That's how I would take it.
Starting point is 00:10:05 Yeah, but that's not the case. That's why Rob has reached out to us, hoping we can re-spark this, get this going again, maybe do a little ghost love scene situation. Right, Rob? That's right. Pottery class, no alcohol, very vegan. That is. They can do it, you know? That would be perfect.
Starting point is 00:10:22 That's like shirtless though, and you have to be behind your back. Are you wanting to apologize to her for your response? Yeah, I mean the way you put it, I guess I kind of see it like I was being a little rude. So yeah, I would like to apologize. Okay, cool. Well, we don't know for sure if she took it that way. That's just Brooke's opinion. And you know how valuable that is.
Starting point is 00:10:38 So let's... Why do you have to throw a dig in there? I'm just saying, we don't know. That's all I'm saying. That's totally what you're saying. Let's find out once and for all. I'm going saying we don't know. Yeah, that's totally what you're saying. Let's find out once and for all I'm gonna call it right now. Here we go Hello, hi, is this Maggie?
Starting point is 00:11:01 Yes, this is she who is this? We gotcha Yes, this is she. Who is this? Oh, okay. Hey Maggie. We gotcha. Hi Maggie. Don't yell we gotcha. Sorry, I mean I'm happy that you answered is what I meant to say. You're here. We're a radio show. We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.
Starting point is 00:11:17 And we've been dying to talk to you. Okay, for what? I mean, why? What's going on? Because we're doing a segment here called a second date update. And it's where we try and help out our listeners if they've kind of stalled out in their dating life with somebody. We're trying to help somebody named Rob. Oh, yes, Rob. Okay, I see. Oh, my God, Rob said you you had two great dates together. Yeah, he actually told us that he felt really good about it.
Starting point is 00:11:46 How did you feel? I felt really good about it too. I felt like we had this instant connection and potential to really go somewhere. I was really, really excited to keep things going with him. That's so sweet. That's good. Okay. Was there something that made that change?
Starting point is 00:12:03 Because it does sound like you're talking in past tense. Well, I mean, I'm the type of person who wants a guy who's going to be my Prince Charming and just come in and ride in on the horse and profess his love to me and just go all out and then we ride off into the sunset together. You like grand romantic gestures. That's what you like.
Starting point is 00:12:25 Yes, exactly. That's totally fair. It could be a lot though for some guys to process that after just one weekend hanging out, you know? And not a lot of guys are romantic at all. Well, they should be. And I made that very clear on my profile. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:12:43 Wait, it's on your profile? What'd you say on your profile? I want someone who's sweet, so I want you to send me messages and let me know that you appreciate me because that's my love language is affirmations, words of affirmation, so I love giving those out and I want that back in return.
Starting point is 00:13:01 Got it. Okay, and you feel like Rob was not fulfilling those needs for you? Correct. It especially came down to where, you know, I sent him what I felt was our first, like, love song, our potential first dance. And I just envision us already there, you know? Wow.
Starting point is 00:13:21 So that would be a lot for anyone. So we did hear about that text and the song being sent to him. Honestly, here's what I worry about for you, Maggie. Along the way in your life, you've come up with this idea for a fairy tale romance in your mind. Okay, Jeff, I'm not in that therapy hat right now, I see.
Starting point is 00:13:41 It's totally okay to have these ideals in your head, but you have to be able to adjust to other people Because no one is gonna match up perfectly with everything that you Justine I mean she's already going out with somebody who wasn't a vegan She was already going out with somebody with drinks when she doesn't but she said the problem was he didn't like one song No, she said the problem was he wasn't romantic Jeff, but the thing is that's the conversation You have to go off of the two great dates that you guys had together That is not easy to do in the modern dating world
Starting point is 00:14:12 We never hear about that that's special and that's something that you should actually hold on to Not that he didn't like a song that you texted him one time Do you know what? I can see I mean, it just my favorite song and I just... We were getting along so well. Yeah. Wait, I think you can hear it. I think Jeff's playing it right now. It's too easy for people to just ghost right now on these dating apps over one dumb little thing.
Starting point is 00:14:38 You have to remember, two great first dates. Hold on to that. Cherish that. What did you drink this morning look I don't need your love hate right now I'm trying to build a love tower and that's why I know that's why I need to tell you Maggie Rob is on the phone right now you like a grand romantic gesture here it is Oh my God. Delivered. Hey, hey Maggie, how you doing? Well, hi Rob, I'm good, how are you? Yeah. Good, you know, I just, I wanted to apologize
Starting point is 00:15:12 for blowing off your song. I didn't realize that it meant so much to you, but you know, I hear what you're saying about being more romantic. It's, you know, we've only been on two dates, so maybe I need a little bit of a buildup, take my time a little bit. Rob's a little bit more of a slow burner,
Starting point is 00:15:33 but he's willing to burn a little bit faster for you. Well, I mean, I do appreciate that. And I felt like I was very transparent on my profile. I can't change who I am. And I would appreciate if you could try a little more Brooks been saying that same thing to her husband for the last 10 years Every woman has said it in any relationship Me kind of a love song, what would it be? It'd be that song, uh, Maggie by, uh, Rod Stewart.
Starting point is 00:16:08 Oh. My mom loves that. Wake up, Maggie, I think I have something to say. That's just her name, right? Yeah. I think that's after Maggie leaves him. But on a one-night stand? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:19 Oh. Super romantic, though. Guys, I'm trying, all right? I don't know. I actually got Rod Stewart cancelled. What's amazing is he's not scared away right now. I mean that is honestly, I don't know
Starting point is 00:16:34 if you're gonna find that. We'd like to offer to send you guys out one more time. And we would pay for it. Aww. Yeah, let's do it. That'd be great It's true what they say you can build this love together Some things do last forever
Starting point is 00:17:02 Nothing's gonna stop us now except we're running out of time to do the second date update, so we got to stop it. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Months ago, we convinced them to give it another try. And it sounds like they did because both Rob and Maggie are back with us today on the show. Oh my God. I vote them most likely to be in a relationship. Well, they just, you know, she needed the effort and he sounded like he was ready to deliver. Let's find out Rob.
Starting point is 00:17:23 Were you able to step up the romance for Maggie? Yeah I think I was you know after being on your show like she pretty much told me she wanted me to be more romantic Yeah, so we went on a second date and I kind of went over the top. I think I hired I hired like this 20 person flash mob And then after that I hired this horse-drawn carriage like this 20 person flash mob. What? Wait, a flash mob? Whoa. Yeah, yeah. And then after that, I hired this horse drawn carriage. What?
Starting point is 00:17:49 Whoa. Wow. To take us back home. Dude. I had her favorite song playing on my phone. You know, we built this thing together. Okay, but we asked, did you do anything romantic though? Ha ha ha ha.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Oh my God, I bet Maggie was over the moon. That's so much. Well, after I did all that, she didn't talk to me for like two weeks. What? Wait, what? Why? Yeah, well, he was trying way too hard and I could tell he wasn't being himself. Wait.
Starting point is 00:18:16 And I didn't want that. Too hard? No! You said he wasn't trying hard enough when we had you on the phone before. Aren't you like Goldilocks and the bears or something with the porridge like pick a temperature? It's true. It's true, but honestly I really I learned something about myself and that I just really don't like Low effort guys, but I also don't like the super over-the-top cheesy high effort guys either Yeah, has he struck the right chord by this time?
Starting point is 00:18:43 Yeah, has he struck the right chord by this time? Yes, and so I did ask can you just be in the middle just be yourself and kind of meet in the middle Okay, Rob were you able to do that? Yeah, I made her I made her this photo scrapbook of pictures of us There's only like two pictures, but Yeah, I think it was really sweet I liked it it was genuine I thought it was really cute yeah I think so I hope she liked me. He's trying not to come on too strong with his affirmation. He's like, I'm not sure. Oh my God. Yeah, well, you know, I'm trying and I'm also not trying.
Starting point is 00:19:31 And so I'm keeping it in the middle. OK. All right. Stay there. Keep it mid. There you go. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Ugh.
Starting point is 00:19:41 We're so done with New Year, New You. This year, it's more you on Bumble. More of you shamelessly sending playlists, especially that one filled with show tunes. More of you finding Geminis because you know you always like them. More of you dating with intention because you know what you want.
Starting point is 00:19:58 And you know what? We love that for you. Someone else will too. Be more you this year and find them on Bumble. I'm Kristin Davis, host of the podcast Are You a Charlotte? The incredible Cynthia Nixon joins me this week for a conversation filled with memories and stories I didn't even know. Cynthia could have been Carrie?
Starting point is 00:20:20 When I first read the script, they asked me to read for Carrie, as I think they asked you to read for Carrie. Did you? I did. And they were like, yeah, not so much. You can't miss this. Listen to Are You a Charlotte on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm David Borden. And I'm his grandson Langston Kerman. And we host My Mama Told Me, a podcast about black conspiracy theories. And we're here to tell you that we have our boy Lamorne Morris on the podcast this week. You will not want to miss out on hilarious moments like these. I'm the same guy who believes in lizard
Starting point is 00:20:55 people. So I don't really... We should have started with that. I look at all this like this. I go... Catch Lamorne Morris on My Mama Told Me with Langston Kerman and David Borey on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, Brooklyn Nine Niners. It's a reunion. The ladies of the Nine Nine are getting back together for a special episode of the podcast More Better. Host Stephanie Beatriz and Melissa Fumero welcome friend and former castmate Chelsea
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