Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - Second Date Update: Voice Note No No

Episode Date: July 8, 2026

Corey THOUGHT he had the perfect conversation starter but after he brought it up his date was in TEARS. He swears it was a harmless topic that just went sideways SOMEHOW. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I can't figure out what it is. Oh, that's so funny. So it is a window into what we call our Ock Studio, our Auxiliary Studio. And there's also his baby trophies in the window. Yeah, and what's that a baby photo of him? I think he was like Mr. Fallbrook Mall of California in 1992 or something. Anyway, that's where our producer sits in the other room.

So check out the video to know what we're talking about and see if you could spot his baby trophies. There you go. There's your Easter egg. Your brand new episode starts right now. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Second date update. Occasionally we'll have return callers on this segment.

And the last time our listener, Corey, was on one of these. Safe to say, things got a little ugly. Can we give him a fun nickname? Because right now I can't remember who he is. Oh, hardcore. Oh, there we go. I like it. Yeah, yeah. We'll come up with something for it, but we did.

We did find out that his date lied to him about her age. Some other misinformation came out, and it all led to this moment. You're not like a 10, you know? Oh, gosh. Oh, God. Oh, man. Whatever. I mean, that doesn't make you look good.

You went out on the date with me, so, look, I don't even want to argue about it. I think it's only fair that you Venmo me half the cost of the dinner. What? Venmo. What? Corey, what are you doing, dude? I know that she, like, fibbed on her age, but you liked her. I did like her until I found out she wasn't a truthful person.

Corey, you ordered street tacos. I think the bill was like $8. Like, you can't be that cheap. Oh. We're just going to have him relive that terrible moment of his life just dead. Exactly. So let's welcome back to the show, the guy who demanded $4 back from his $8 dinner, cost-efficient Corey. Hey, there's the nickname I wanted to tell. Thank you.

Welcome back, Corey. I want to know, did you get your money, Corey? Yeah, no, unfortunately I did not, but I think you got the point. I don't like liars, and I'm not going to stand for it. Okay. All right. It's shocking you wanted to come back on our show after your experience here. Yeah.

I don't know if it's good news or bad news that you're back, and I guess we'll find out. What's the name of the woman that you went out with, and how did you two meet? Yeah, her name's Ashley, and we met on Hinge, and she's really, really cute. She looks like a not as dorky version of Zoe de Chanel, if that makes sense. Oh. Oh. I like the dorky partner. You think that she's dorky? She's like the hottest dorky ever there.

That's what makes her a little bit like. That's her whole personality is being dorky. So if you take that away. Yeah. What did you guys do for a date? Yeah, so we agreed to meet up for dinner. And so, okay, look, I've always thought that a good topic of conversation for a first date is like pets. Sure.

Unless they don't have a pet. It's like, oh. No, it would still work. I'd be like, no, show me all the pictures of your dog. I want to hear all about it. Or you talk about your childhood pet you had. Oh, yeah, my old dog whiskey. Or the goldfish you had to bury in the backyard.

Oh, yeah. How'd you know? You buried them? Yeah, you had a whole service for ours. We flushed ours. Oh, wow. No wonder you grew up the way you did. It's water to water.

No. No, put it back in the earth. Say a prayer. Okay, you're right. Sorry. Wow. Okay. But look at that.

Just bringing up pets. brought up 30 seconds of interesting conversation, but what to do with them when you're done. How heartless Jeff is. We learned that as well. So anyway, did yours go as well as ours did, Corey? No, no, not at all. This is the worst that it's ever gone.

Oh, really? Whoa. What happened? Why? Well, I thought about my dog, and I said, do you have a pet? And I got an answer, but it was not from my date. It was from the waitress.

And she's like, I just had to put mine down the other day. Oh, dude, that brings the whole mood down. Oh, my gosh. Did you ask, did they bury them or flush them? No. We didn't have flushed like six, it got caught. That's so sad. No, that sucks.

That does put the brakes on it. Apparently, it was like a hamster with diabetes. Like, and apparently she had been feeding it M&M and M. And she just didn't know, I guess. It's actually good information for everyone to hear. They don't make insulin for hamsters. I didn't know they even tested hamsters for that sort of stuff. I mean, what was your date's reaction to it all?

Well, so the waitress was crying, and then my date was like, like tearing up. And it was just weird. Do you say that was weird? It was weird, yeah. For a date? For a date, yes. I'm on my date and all of a sudden, like, this person has hijacked it.

Yeah. It's like, do you go in for the kiss right then? So how do you recover from that point? Like, where does it go from there? After dinner, we went on a walk around the neighborhood and we talked more about the hamster. Oh, God. We both felt bad, but we did kind of laugh about the situation.

Okay. Okay. So, I mean, it was a real point of connection, even though, you know, you thought it may have ruined the date, it may have brought you guys closer together. Yeah. What do you talk about next? Yeah. Probably what kind of diet you'd need to put the hamster on.

The new M&Ms don't have as many chemical dies in them, so the hamster probably would have been better off. That reminds me, I've got to check my new hamster's blood sugar. I'll be right back. Do you prick the little hamster's finger to check the blood pressure? There's too many questions. I mean, do you ever get off the topic of the hamster? Yeah, yeah.

The thing that finally got us off the topic of dead pets. We walked by an ice cream shop and we got the whiff of like a waffle cone. Oh, yeah. It's smell it right now. There we go. And then I joked. I was like, oh, I had a waffle cone once, but I had to put him down. Down my throat.

Did she laugh at that at that point? I think so. I think so. I laughed. I don't know. I don't remember she laughed. It was like a rough joke. Yeah.

You probably knew you were joking. And the problem was you were finally past. All that and then he brought it back again. Okay. So, how did the date end? Hot makeout, Sasha. I laugh because it doesn't sound like it. Actually, I walked to her car and I did get a kiss.

Okay. Okay. That's good. Okay, so you were feeling really positive by the end of the date. Yeah, yeah. And we actually specifically talked about hanging out again, and she wanted me to hang out at her place the next week. Oh.

Oh, she even put a time and date on it. Yeah, so I was just like, oh, yeah. That might be cool. I just need to check my schedule and let me get back to you. But after that night, she's not answering me. Oh, no. So wait, no communication, like no text, no nothing. I think she may have even blocked me because my messages now aren't even read.

They're just sent. Oh, no. Is that how you know you're blocked? I don't think it'll send if you're blocked. Alexis knows. I'm still checking on one from like 2022. I'm like, why hasn't it gone through? It's a lot to get blocked on text.

I don't have been blocked on social phone. media, but a text block, Alexis? Man, it's playing hard to get for the last five years. Good for him. Okay. So you haven't even spoken to her at all. Let's find out what's going on with Ashley. When we come back and call her, we're not going to bring up any dead animals whatsoever. Or live ones.

No animals. If she blocked you, there is a big reason she is not. There could be. Let's find out when we come back and do your second date update right after this. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Second date update. What do you do if a little? a waiter or waitress hijacks your first date.

Oh, wow, that's literally what happened actually. Yeah, I say that because our listener, Corey, had to hang out with a woman recently named Ashley and attempted to connect with her over the subject of pets. Yep. You know, like, I have one. Do you have one? Does your family have one? Let's talk animals for a while.

What could go wrong? Well, the waitress overheard it and chimed in saying, well, I had one and I just put it down. Oh, man. It's so sad. Anytime you say the words rainbow bridge, it's never a good. No. Honestly, it's bad, but all I've been thinking about is we still haven't found out what the hamster's name was. Oh, God.

Yeah, the diabetic hamster. Tell him, Jeff. Well, we won't know because it was the waitress's hamster. Oh, that's right. Maybe we should get her on the phone instead. Well, we'll do that after. Apparently, she was feeding M&Ms to it and became diabetic. But, yeah, hard to recover a date from that point.

I mean, he thought he'd managed to, though, because they kissed at the end. Yeah, they got a kiss. They smelled some waffle cones together. A lot of positive things. They ate some ice cream, too. Huff them, ate them, whatever. It's all good. So, Brooke, I am curious your read on this, though,

because aside from the diabetic hamster debacle, it sounds like overall a pretty good date. Yeah, but you said that you got blocked. And, ooh. Oh, yeah, you forgot that detail, Jeff. He was extreme. He may have gotten blocked. What was the last thing you texted her?

I can't remember. Can you not? Or was it something lewd. Yeah. Wait a minute. I mean, I think it was just like, hey, are we still on? And then he sent him. picture with it.

Just kidding. Just kidding. I mean, I don't know. It sounds, it's just so dramatic to block somebody. Block it is another level, you know. Or it could be coming from somewhere else in her life where she's like, I just need to block all people out. It may not be specific to him.

Maybe she's like my mom where she accidentally blocks people and didn't realize to do it. That's a lot of steps. That's true. Maybe it is your mom under an alias. How deep are we going down this rabbit hole? These babies are getting wild. It's getting crazy. So let's just call Ashley.

We'll see if she's really Brooke's mom or not. And we'll get to the bottom of why she's not calling you back. But here we go. No, that's not another one. Hey, is this Ashley? Yes. Hey, Ashley. Thank you for answering.

We're a radio show. We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Hey, Ashley, good morning. Hi. Hi. Continue. Sorry. I really like the way that she said hi.

It felt very positive. It's very different for what we normally get. You have good energy, Ashley. You do. And we really enjoy that because we're doing this segment called a second date update. I don't know if you're familiar. Wait, no. Why?

Why are you calling me? We're calling you because one of our listeners says he went out on a very nice date with you the other night. A guy named Corey. Oh, God. Oh, that guy. Oh, God. Yeah, that guy, the one that you met on Hinge and had a great evening with. Yeah, he's pretty forward, actually.

Forward. I think you mean charming, but we'll take that. Okay, forward. Can you be specific about why you say that? Like, green flag, red flag? I mean, I'd say the entire day it was pretty much like a green flag. The date didn't feel like an interview, like a lot of other dates do. It just felt like we were, like, laughing and genuinely having fun with each other,

which was obviously so nice. I'd give it an A plus. The kiss was great, too. Oh, my God. So many positive reviews. What did he text you? Yeah. He actually sent me a voice note and yeah, yeah, it just completely turned me off.

Oh, see, voice notes can give the ick real quick. Yeah, depending what happens in it. Just the fact that he sent you a voice note was a turnoff or what was saying? No, no, no, no, like everything he said in it, I wish I could genuinely play it for you because it was just so forward and gave me the ick. What did he say? Well, I want to hear it if you can play it. She's on the phone right now. Wait, I...

Was it sent... Oh, sorry. Do you have an iPhone, like text message? Is that I was sent? I do. But he actually sent it. We're texting on WhatsApp. Oh, that's what I'm talking about my ad.

On WhatsApp, can you play the note while you're on the phone at the same time? Yeah. Can we do that? Oh, wait. Yeah, you can play it. Okay. I can play if you guys are ready. Yeah, play it.

Yeah, I want to hear the voice note that turns you off. Okay, here it is. Listen. Hey, it's Corey. So I just wanted to send you a voice note because it's a little easier. If we're thinking about going over to your place next weekend, and, you know, I'm totally open to that. But to see if we're, you know, so I'd be hoping to romantic spark personal sake, because it's hard for me to continue dating someone without knowing if we're compatible in that type of way.

And so up to you. Yeah. Sorry, I'm used to go and beep like the loser line. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Brooke, what's your initial read on that voice message? Oh, man. Oh, man.

Why wouldn't he just let the moment happen? Yeah. God. He's probably already going to happen. A lot of people think that, but like, you don't say it. And you don't call it physical intimacy. No, either. Okay.

Ashley, are you feeling the same way that Brooke is that whole... How are you not, Jeff? I'm just trying to get her vibe first. Yeah, no. As soon as I heard that, I was like, absolutely not. I'm never seeing this man again. Okay. How about hearing him?

I wonder what Corey's take on that voice note is, because I do need to let you know, Ashley, he's on the other line right now listening in on this. Oh. Corey, how did you not know? Dude. Yeah, I mean, first of all, hi, Ashley. I just can't, I can't believe you play that on the radio. Like, that was a personal thing between you and me.

What they asked me why I'm not calling you back. That voice note is literally the reason why. She has a point. Corey? I don't really understand that because in my eyes, I'm being actually super communicative. Like, I've always heard that women. want guys who can communicate with them well, so I just, I was open and on it. Okay, sure, but not when the communication is like, I want to guarantee that I'm going to get

some action for me when I come over. Okay. Well, look, if you were both looking for that, it's different. Obviously, she's really dating. No, she's saying it exactly right. Yeah. It's the ask, Corey. It's the guarantee.

It's like, let's hook up or I'm not coming over. Like, if you're in the moment and you're like, hey, are you comfortable? Is this good? Like, cool. Yeah. You ready for some. intimacy. Do you get what Brooke is saying? Yes, you're communicating, but the message you're communicating is weird. But I don't think it's, I think it's the message that everybody has.

I think most guys would just probably think what I was thinking, but instead of saying something about it, which probably just like go to your house and like make a move and get shut down and then get bitter about it. Well, that's, oh, he's not bitter. You know what, though? If she's not like into it, she's going to shut you down. That means like, it's not there, right? Like, that was your answer. Like, then you know that the physical intimacy. is not what you wanted it to be. It's literally about making sure that I don't waste my time, but also that she doesn't waste her time.

Okay. But you just lost. Actually, I'm coming around all right now. The communication is strong. No, Ashley, didn't you hear Ashley say that you shared a really great kiss? Like, those are the clues that tell you whether it's going to be good or not. Then it's about guessing, and I would just rather all the cards are out on the table.

We're dealt here. We can talk about these things. We haven't heard a lot from Ashley in this situation. Ashley, where's your head at? Yeah, I think I'm just kind of done with this whole conversation because it's not going to go anywhere. He is and it's not for me. Well, you want to ask again before she hangs up, bro? Yeah.

I mean, that was clear communication, which Corey really likes. Excellent communication, A plus all around. And I would like to communicate how much we want the two of you to go out one more time, Ashley. Because if you did, we would pay for that date. By we, he means just Corey wants that. I'm done with everything. I can't believe all the sarcasm, and I can't believe you played the recording, and, you know, I wanted help from you guys. We were trying.

We didn't know she had that. We didn't know who did that. That was as clear as it could have possibly been, the reason you weren't getting a call back, right? It is now since she decided to finally communicate about it instead of just hide. Yeah, and now he's communicating with us how he doesn't like what we've done. Yeah. But I'm sure you'll call back for a third time. Yeah.

I still like you guys. I just hoping one of these times I'm going to get a yes. Yeah. Is it weird if I tried to switch subjects right now and go back to the diabetic hamster? Oh, yeah. I love it. This might be the most appropriate time. Yeah.

Okay, Texan, who do you think the cutest diabetic animal would be? Oh, wait, no. Maybe like a baby deer. I want to know, Ashley, did you ever find out the name of the hamster? No, I didn't. Okay. Sorry, Beth. I'm working in closure.

I'm done with us. And now you guys bringing it up and made me sound all over again. Oh. It is cute thinking of a little hamster eating an M&M. All right. But then dies. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Listen.

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I don't. We're going to call him Chori after a while. He's a chore for us. Not because I want him to get another date. I just want to hear more voice notes from him, because those are really fun. Honestly, we should have more people doing that. Dude, that is true. Pretty soon, if we have him on too many times, it'll be the physical intimacy date.

Oh, my love. Instead of a second date update. Can't wait for that. Don't say physical intimacy, Brooke. It gets the room all. I know. But it's true. There are times where it would be appropriate to plan intimate times.

Just maybe not date number two. Yeah, that's what I was like, dude, if you've been on 10 dates and eventually you're like, can I get a kiss? I get it. But date one dude, chill. Yeah. Slow down a little bit. Wait till you're 10 years into marriage or when you're incarcerated. When your parents are visiting and you're, you're you're visiting and you're

you want them to know for sure, you got this. No, bro. I like how the parents visiting is worse for you than the incarceration. I'm saying, there's good times and there's bad times. Corey chose a very bad time. Yeah. It didn't work for him. Doesn't mean it couldn't work for you if you need help with your dating life.

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I mean, I can't even tell you, Paul, how crazy it was. It was insane. Listen to Paul's best podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The World Cup is underway and it's been incredible. podcast, The O-A-N with Daniel Alarcon and John Green, we're talking about the games that have delighted us, the teams that have inspired us, what we're loving and what surprised us, all through the lens of being massive fans of the world's most beautiful game. Daniel, this tournament has been magical so far. There's so much to love, and I can hardly

believe the drama that the group stage brought us, and now it's time for us to talk about the teams that are left as the field is whittled down to one World Cup champion on July 19th. Listen to the away end with Danielle Alarcon and John Green on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Here at the Happiness Lab, we're serving up some hot takes for the summer. Big ideas that just might reshape how you think about your well-being. Like the radical notion that we should get rid of small talk completely. We talk about current events.

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