Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - Textual Healing: America's Next Top BF
Episode Date: April 30, 2026One of our listeners wants to take a HUGE LEAP with a very special person in his life… and if he doesn’t do it right, their 6-year friendship could be over. Get your Textual Healing podca...st right here!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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There are certain things in life that require a huge leap of faith.
Whether you're moving across country for a new job.
Oh, for sure.
Proposing to a woman you just met earlier that day.
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Or ordering delivery from a two-star rated food food.
truck in a strip mall.
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Because with big risk comes big rewards.
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Could be awesome food.
Probably not, but it could be.
Could be.
That's why one of our listeners needs help today.
He wants to take a huge
leap of faith with a very special
person in his life.
And if he doesn't do it right, their six-year
friendship could possibly be
ruined forever.
Big risk, big reward.
We're going to try to help him out in a brand new
textual healing. Next.
Textual healing textual
Is it different texting your mom versus texting your love interest?
I should be.
Wildly.
For some of us we could take the same cues.
Be polite. Also playful.
Put funny over flirty.
No.
No, no.
Be more flirty first with your mom.
None of it.
Oh.
Well, I agree. Nobody wants to be like, bro, can you hurry up?
And you're like, hold on.
on, I'm floored with my mom.
Peach emoji, send.
See, it sounds just as bad if you say,
hold on, I'm being funny with my mom.
The differences can be very subtle,
little tough to navigate,
and that's where we can step in and help
with a little textual healing.
The segment where we help a listener
craft the perfect message to send
to whoever they need
for whatever unusual situation they find themselves.
We're hanging up if they say they need help with their mom.
Well, today one of our listeners
has reached out seeking some
tender textual gratification
with one of his love interests
definitely not his mom
at least I hope not his name is Mike
Mike welcome to the show
Hey thanks guys
Yeah sorry about that weird start
Yeah that was tough
We're gonna get back on track for you here
But we do have a mom on this show that could help give you
advice if that makes you feel more comfortable
That'd be good
Yeah my mom would be good
Good nice
See Brooke do you hear that he's into moms
He's pro mom
Keep going Jeff
Keep going
on the mom stuff or into the love interest?
No, into the love interest.
Who are we texting?
Yeah, let's talk about that.
Who do you want help texting?
I want help texting my friend Chloe.
Oh, you say friends.
So you guys, is this one of those things where you're ready to make the jump from friendship to something more with Chloe?
Um, I mean, I don't know.
I don't know.
Oh, okay.
I love that nervous energy.
How long have you and Chloe been, quote, unquote, friends?
Like six or seven years.
And how long have you wanted more with Chloe?
I don't know.
We've always been friendly, but, like, I think from the beginning, there's...
The full six or seven years.
Okay.
All right.
Gotcha.
I feel like you've got to tell us a little more than I don't know, because we can't just text her that eight times.
Yeah.
Like, what's the nature of the friendship been like?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, we've just always been pals, and she's always been in relationships.
And...
Oh.
Okay.
And your window has opened.
Yes, it has.
I just feel like she always has these, like, really handsome boyfriends.
And, like, a few months ago, we were at another friend's birthday.
And she basically just, like, talked to me in the corner, like, the whole time.
And this has happened before.
Like, we always kind of wind up together in the corner of a room.
And I just feel like there's something there.
Where she's not spending time with her boyfriend, she's specifically, like, using it to hang out with you instead?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, that's a good sign.
See? All I'm hearing is she has handsome ex-boyfriends, and that's what matters.
She's an awesome girl, and she's the one who breaks up with them because she's great.
Oh, that's cute.
So she's single now, though.
Yeah, what happened?
How did this come out so that, like, now is the right time to make your move?
It just is the first time, I think, since I've ever known her, that she's, like, 100% single.
There's no situation ship.
There's no other person.
And I'm just wondering if it's the right time to be vulnerable and see if she'd be open to something.
I just have no clue how to do that.
Yeah.
Have you ever gotten any vibes or words or any friends?
I've said anything.
Yeah, that Chloe may feel the same about you.
No one said anything.
But it's just the thing I told you about the party.
Like I have 10 more examples of that where it's just there's no need for her to like be with me.
Like she could be with her literal boyfriend
And it seems like she'd rather be with me
You know, I'm just a guy
But like I feel this attraction towards her
And I like it can't be one-sided
It can't be just me
Yeah
You gotta get a feeler out there to see if she likes you
Right so but I'm just wondering
Where in this puzzle piece does your mom come in?
Leave the mom out
There's no mother involvement whatsoever
No mom involved
Okay, well, that takes my area of expertise out of this.
It's going to be more on Brooke now to come up with something good to send your love interest.
I was going to say, where have you left your last text with her?
Because I assume you guys are friends, so you text.
I mean, are you at a friendship level where you text individually, or is it always group chats?
No, no, no, like, we'll send each other funny videos and stuff for like little things, yeah.
But how do you move the relationship now from a friendship into a potential romance?
That's what you're wondering to do via a.
text message. So let's start
brainstorming. Let's just break the ice
with So you're single, huh?
Okay, maybe
not. Alexis, what, do you have any
ideas of what he should send?
Okay, moving on.
That was good. Thank you.
Inside joke. Oh.
That's vague, but that's all I got.
Okay. If you guys send each other memes in videos, you may have
an inside joke of something.
I mean, they're so, like, circumstantial.
You know, they like fade in.
Yeah, no, no.
Okay, we almost add something.
I mean, maybe you bring up the fact that she's single and it's like self-deprecating.
Like, oh, you dropped another model boyfriend again, huh?
I hope he's not too heartbroken or, you know, like something sarcastic.
You know what I mean?
Hey, lonely party of you.
No, wow.
What are you doing this weekend?
She's doing the breaking up.
She's not heartbroken about it.
So it's like a back can of compliment.
And then you could actually leave that into more like good thing you and me could never get together.
I'm way too attractive for you or something like that.
Okay.
But silly, playful.
Like you would with your mom, yes.
God.
I just say, I think if we start by bringing up the fact that she's single right now,
then it'll help us lead to.
The mental.
Yeah.
Okay.
Go ahead.
We'll go towards that.
Start typing, remind her that she's single.
Go for it, Mike.
Woke up without a boyfriend.
Yeah.
Wow.
Her did you drop another from, I don't know, America's top model.
What do you think about?
that, Mike. I mean, yeah,
that could work. I would start typing.
Okay. Hey, like, heard you
had to drop another beautiful
model boyfriend. Another
heartbroken, gorgeous man out on
the street. Laugh emoji.
I'd ask if you're okay, but I know you're fine.
Yeah, that's good. You know? I'd ask if you're
okay, but I know you're fine. Yeah, like, you're
also being a good friend. I heard you
has a drop another
beautiful model boyfriend.
What was the next thing?
I'd ask if you're okay.
but I know you're probably fine.
Yeah, and then an emoji.
Laugh emoji.
Yeah.
I'd ask if you were okay,
but I know you're probably fine.
Laugh emoji.
Okay, got it.
Nice.
And then she can write back something sarcastic
about how the hot ones
are not always the smart ones or something.
Yeah.
Or it causes a rift in your friendship
because you accused her of being single.
So we'll see how it goes.
She dumped him, Jeff.
Not all breakups are back.
Yeah.
I don't know if you know that.
When they're beautiful mom,
boy friends. I would think it hurts a little bit more.
She's going through him, dude.
Yeah.
So we've sent that.
We'll see if your friend Chloe responds
when we come back and we do
more textual healing,
non-mom edition coming up.
It's not moms. We're doing it right after this.
Hold on.
We're in the middle of textual healing
with our overly talkative listener,
Mike, who would just not
shut up about his longtime friend
Chloe, who he's hoping to be
more than just friends with now that she's finally single and moved on from her hunky well-endowed model boyfriend.
We didn't know that part?
Well, we can assume.
I don't know.
So how do we get the friend ball rolling in the romantic direction?
We suggested he start by first reminding her that she's single in a playful way by saying, wow, heard you had to drop another gorgeous model boyfriend.
I'd ask if you're okay, but I know you're fine laugh emoji.
Yeah.
So we sent that a little while ago.
Has she responded yet, Mike?
Yeah, she actually did.
Oh, la, la.
I can never tell if you're excited, Mike, like what your emotions are.
You must be just so nervous right now.
Or whatever medications you're on.
They're totally working.
But she wrote back, what did she say?
She said, yep, guess I need to go to the GQ store at the mall and find another.
Oh.
Another model boyfriend.
She's got a good sense of humor.
That's funny.
That's pretty funny.
What if you wrote back and said,
but have you ever tried the boot barn?
Oh.
And that's where we go on to say that I'm the guy at the boot barn.
Do we have to go all the way to the basement from the models all the way down to like backwater?
You ever been thrift shopping?
Okay.
But about the middle, the gap.
The rack.
Yeah.
Okay.
The rack.
Mike, hopefully you're not getting offended by any of this.
No, no, no.
All right.
So like we're going with boot bar.
or the rack?
No, wait, don't like take us literally.
We're kind of kidding here.
I wasn't.
I'm actually supporting Brooks idea a little bit here
because the humor's there.
It's still a little flirty, playful.
Okay.
And the insinuation is, look at me.
This is what I think you should say.
But have you ever tried shopping at the boot barn?
I'm still with boot bar.
I think it's funnier.
You can do a little boot emoji.
Yeah.
But whatever, the rack.
Whatever low-class store you want to like refer to yourself as,
put that in,
She still kind of likes, though.
Yeah, yeah, like, make it a good one.
Yeah, I do like Boobarn.
So, okay, I am, all right, I'm going to say Boobarn.
Oh, he likes Booburn.
The question is, do you think that she'll 100% understand the subtle messaging that he's trying to put out there?
Yes, they're best friends, and they have humor.
Dude, she's dropping hot boys because she's emotionally intelligent.
Okay.
She gets it.
She's the one that brought up the GQ store.
Yeah, she's funny.
All right, Cowboys, send that Boobarn text and see what she says.
All right.
So I'm going to say, maybe you should.
try shopping at the boot barn and then boot emoji.
Oh, I like that.
Yeah.
All right, send.
And she's going to be like, great idea.
I love cowboys.
Yeah.
Darn it.
I didn't think of that.
Or she's just going to go, like, get a wardrobe thing, like, takes it too literally.
She'll get it.
We may need to then follow up immediately with saying that you're the option.
Yeah.
Right?
Like, that's where.
Yes.
Yeah.
Are we going to name stories back and forth from her?
Because the joke will go on for too long.
Like, now we've.
been playful. I think next we need
to be direct. Yeah, and hopefully she just
gets it and it's like, oh, really? Or just
say, actually, I would love to take you out
on a date. I mean, honestly. Guys, hold
on, hold on. She responded. Oh,
okay. What'd she say?
I'm actually starting
to realize the pretty ones
aren't as pretty on the inside.
Yes.
See? They're actually pretty boring. I roll.
Yep. More like a temporary
cat toy.
Play with them for a while till it gets
old. Yeah. Oh, I like her. She's getting sick of the pretty boys, so she's looking for this.
This is still just two friends talking, though. I mean, how do we get it to be a little more flirty?
Yeah, I mean, I think this is part of the more direct line, right? Because she's getting more serious right now in this.
In this text exchange, we can drop the humor now a little bit. Maybe just ask, you said drop the humor, maybe it's like, have you ever considered dating a friend?
Yes. Literally, that's a general question still. I love it.
Mike, what do you think?
I'm scared, but yeah, let's do it.
I mean, Mike, I could tell by your emotions that you're super scared.
You're all over the place.
You've got to calm down a little bit.
Refocus.
Okay.
Squirly on us over there.
Was that his big energy?
Is that what you were?
It was kind of overwhelming, Mike.
So let's temper that and write this message.
What should he say, Jose?
Just tell her, have you ever considered dating a friend?
And what about the guy shrugging emoji?
Yeah.
That's playful?
I don't think it matters.
Yeah.
Okay, buff guy shrugging.
There we go
Now I feel like it's false advertisement
He said that he's offering
Do both arms
Have you ever considered
Getting a friend
Shrug emoji
Uh-oh
Shrug emoji
Send it
She's got to know you're talking about you
Well I hope you don't have other hot friends in your group
Oh shoot
I was thinking about
I wish you hadn't sent it
Because I was thinking of adding something about a mom
Like something really funny about it
It's too late
Ever dated a friend
A mom
A mom?
You know
You get on one thing
And we just can't let it go
Can we, Jeff?
It's like he's holding in his back pocket
Yeah
Gonna come through
Okay, boot lady, geez
Fine
Dude, that was clutch
I did right
It got us to hear
Oh my God, guys
What?
She texted back, oh my God
Oh my God's good or oh my God bad
What did she say?
Okay, she said
Oh, see you want me to date down
Wink Face
She knows it's you
No
Or she doesn't know it's him.
Why would she say that?
Well, the wink face maybe.
He just joked about boot bars.
Yes.
So she's kidding.
And she's flirting back.
You don't send a wink emoji without being flirting.
Okay, that's good.
So you want me to date down wink?
There's more.
There's more.
She said, I'd be lying if I said it hadn't crossed my mind.
Wait, do we need clarification?
I'm too excited.
Yeah.
You're talking about me, right?
Right.
So this is what you're right back.
You've got to check.
You're right back.
Does this mean I can take you.
to dinner and the discount
Ben this weekend?
Oh, that's good.
You're bringing it.
It's called a callback.
Thank you.
What do you even say?
The discount Ben.
At the like, you know.
Brooke, Alexis has no idea what you're saying.
Yeah, you kind of lost me on the call back there.
How about clearance rack?
Would that work for you?
If you want to throw in a cubonjo.
She's giving you the green light to go for it, it sounds like.
So just go for it.
You don't have to be cute about it.
We do need to confirm, though.
It has to be you.
Does this mean I can take you to dinner this week?
There you go.
All right.
Mike, please, calm down.
You are all over the place right now.
All right.
Does this mean I can take you to dinner this weekend?
Yes.
I'm scared.
This is too bold.
This could be super smooth for a train wreck.
Yeah, I'm excited.
Your voice did crack when you say it.
Are you sure you want to go through with this?
Yes.
Do it.
Oh, no.
I sent it.
I sent it.
Yes.
No turning back now.
I'm so excited.
This is either going to make a whole new
wonderful relationship or ruin the friendship
She sent a wink emoji
It has to be him. You're right, yeah.
I send my mom wink emojis all the time.
It doesn't mean anything.
We're back here.
Okay, Mike, I'm going to give you some instructions.
First, lay on the ground.
Oh.
What? Close your eyes.
What?
Yeah, don't do it.
We're just killing time until we get a message back.
Okay, close your eyes, unzip.
What are you doing?
We don't know.
I'm just trying to fill the empty.
It helps Jeff relax.
Okay, oh, my, okay.
Oh, he unzipped.
Wait, why did you say, oh, my.
No, he got a response, Jeff.
I'm scared.
Oh, that's a problem.
He checked it back.
He checked it back.
Oh, darn.
What did she say?
What did she say?
She said, if you can keep your emotions in check, you can come over and spend the night.
Whoa!
Whoa!
Wait a minute.
Hey.
This is good, right?
She's obviously being sarcastic about his emotions because we've seen how emotional this guy is.
Yeah, definitely.
Oh.
I mean, Mike, you're not spending the night.
You want a long-term relationship.
You don't want to be a cat toy.
Dude, they've been friends for six or seven years.
You can spend the night.
Yeah, you go right over there right now.
I 100% want to be a cat toy.
Yay.
That's right.
They have plenty of dinners together.
Yes.
Okay.
Well, I think.
That is so cute.
Our job is done.
You have a slumber party.
Oh, bro.
Thank you guys.
You're welcome.
Wait, reply yes or something.
How are you feeling right now, Mike?
Three boots. Three boot barns.
Yes.
It's really good.
Mike and I don't text that back.
You've ruined him, bro.
I would write back just warning you, I'm not bringing my own sleeping bag.
What?
What?
It's not a small bird.
Can you blow off to Lexis again?
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since we recorded that and we still have not heard how it went.
when he went to her place.
Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
I don't know.
Either it went amazing and he's never left or it went horrible and he doesn't want to talk to us.
We got to get an update from him at some point, but I will say they were so cute.
I have visited the boot barn, though, since the call.
That place is cute.
I'm going to tell you, I have some other shopping hot tips for you too.
Oh, if you need.
Where?
What other store do we have to visit?
That's discount low budge.
This one doesn't actually have a brand name.
attached to it, but it is in a back alley, and there's a guy who sells an incredible deal.
Jeff, you really ask Brooke this right now. Come on.
Blindfold me and leaving into that back alley sometimes. Nothing bad will happen.
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